Trump has been EXONERATED of all charges.

[Nostra]

Proven innocent" is the standard of justice used in totalitarian dictatorship. Every time you try to use it, you only demonstrate that you're a goose stepping Stalinist. All you TDS morons want to pretend this is some kind of legal process, but then when it's pointed out how Dims have violated the principles of the legal process, they resort to bleating that it's not a legal process. Anyone who isn't a brain damaged TDS moron can see that you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

No one is proved innocent, fucking moron. In a court of law, you may be found "not guilty." That doesn't mean you're innocent, let alone, exonerated. It means the prosecutor couldn't prove you're guilty under the law.

And while be charged and taken to trial you are assumed to be innocent unless proven guilty. Therefore if not proven guilty, your back to being innocent. That's how our system works. Once found not guilty - you can only revert to innocent.

LOLOL

a) you do not revert to innocent. You remain not guilty.

b) presumption of innocence only applies to legal cases, which the Senate trial was not.

c) Impeached Trump could still face legal charges once he's out of office.

d) Impeached Trump is still Impeached remains so.

Exonerated forever.

Exonerated implies innocence, but regrettably, Impeached Trump was found "not guilty," not, "innocent."

"Not guilty"?

Innocent UNTIL PROVEN guilty.

INNOCENT!

 

[IM2]

When it comes right down to it, the republicans in the senate are a bunch of pussies.
Sen. Sherrod Brown: In private, Republicans admit they acquitted Trump out of fear

 

[Ken Mac]

Proven innocent" is the standard of justice used in totalitarian dictatorship. Every time you try to use it, you only demonstrate that you're a goose stepping Stalinist. All you TDS morons want to pretend this is some kind of legal process, but then when it's pointed out how Dims have violated the principles of the legal process, they resort to bleating that it's not a legal process. Anyone who isn't a brain damaged TDS moron can see that you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

No one is proved innocent, fucking moron. In a court of law, you may be found "not guilty." That doesn't mean you're innocent, let alone, exonerated. It means the prosecutor couldn't prove you're guilty under the law.

INNOCENT until proven guilty. He was not proven guilty, he was EXONERATED.


Innocent.

You lose, Loser. Deal with it.

...applies to the justice system, dumbfuck.

Yeah............yeah..............we know you single digit IQ morons think Trump was guilty until he proved his innocence, but that isn't how our system works. You are innocent until proven guilty in any venue, Fuckwit.

LOL

You're ineducable, dumbfuck.

Again... presumption of innocence applies to the justice system, not the Legislature.

You're the one that brought up OJ Simpson. SMH.

Stay on track. You keep swerving all over the road.

 

[Nostra]

Eastlan v. United States Servicemen's Fund

Issuance of subpoenas such as the one in question is a legitimate use by Congress of its power to investigate, and the subpoena power may be exercised by a committee acting, as here, on behalf of one of the Houses.

Faun, Please keep up. My point was that Trump's counsel was challenging the validity. It is up to the court to decide. Somewhere in that document (which I've read) the full committee has to sign off on the subpoenas and only the three chairpersons signed off on it. That makes it invalid. The dems needed to challenge it and the didn't cuz they wanted to hurry up and get him out before the election. After wouldn't do them any good. Don't be fooled by the BS.

Please cite the court case Trump filed to fight the subpoenas issued during the House inquiry...

The House Clowns withdrew the subpoenas. It was on them to challenge the White House's opinion in court. They didn't.

The House pretty much agreed they were invalid by not going to court and getting a ruling.

Oops!

They withdrew the subpoena on Charles Kupperman. They didn't withdraw every subpoena.

The didn't go to court on any of them, as our system requires.

 

[Faun]

LOL

According to you, OJ was exonerated.

See how stupid you sound?

Who?

OJ Simpson, ya moron.

When was he President, Fuckwit?

No one ever said he was, dumbfuck. But using your twisted logic, if being found not guilty means one is innocent and exonerated, that means OJ is innocent and exonerated of murdering his wife and Goldman.

Are ya feeling stupid yet??

Let me ask you something. If you were charged with a crime and found not guilty, wouldn't you want others to think you're innocent? Especially if you fell you are innocent?

That's the America I know. The one you know and want leads to Totalitarianism.

Of course I would want that. That doesn't make it so.

 

[Faun]

No one is proved innocent, f******* moron. In a court of law, you may be found "not guilty." That doesn't mean you're innocent, let alone, exonerated. It means the prosecutor couldn't prove you're guilty under the law.

Your vulgar filth and hatefulness have certainly convinced me, Faun.
I think you arrogant, condescending Leftists call yourselves "rational" and "intelligent." Your post certainly demonstrates such conduct. Why college professors use such language in their classrooms across the country, don't they? It's very convincing and powerful... to other Leftists, I mean. Not to anyone of wisdom.

"Anger comes from the bosom of a fool." - The Holy Bible

You are profanely angry and belong on my Ignore List.

ciao brutto

Fuck off, con. Maybe in another life you'll be capable of winning a debate without crying like a baby.

Talk about Projection.

 

[Nostra]

Proven innocent" is the standard of justice used in totalitarian dictatorship. Every time you try to use it, you only demonstrate that you're a goose stepping Stalinist. All you TDS morons want to pretend this is some kind of legal process, but then when it's pointed out how Dims have violated the principles of the legal process, they resort to bleating that it's not a legal process. Anyone who isn't a brain damaged TDS moron can see that you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

No one is proved innocent, fucking moron. In a court of law, you may be found "not guilty." That doesn't mean you're innocent, let alone, exonerated. It means the prosecutor couldn't prove you're guilty under the law.

INNOCENT until proven guilty. He was not proven guilty, he was EXONERATED.


Innocent.

You lose, Loser. Deal with it.

...applies to the justice system, dumbfuck.

Yeah............yeah..............we know you single digit IQ morons think Trump was guilty until he proved his innocence, but that isn't how our system works. You are innocent until proven guilty in any venue, Fuckwit.

LOL

You're ineducable, dumbfuck.

Again... presumption of innocence applies to the justice system, not the Legislature.

So you are saying that you are guilty until proven innocent. Make up your feeble mind, you can't keep your story straight.

 

[Ken Mac]

More lies.

ZERO new witnesses were called during the Clinton trial. They brought in 3 who had already testified in the House to clarify that testimony. That was done behind closed doors, and only parts were made public.

That lie won't fly. Get a new one.

I didn't say, "new."

Sadly, your TDS affects your ability to comprehend.

List all the witnesses who testified during the Clinton trial...

GO!

LOLOL

You're such a dumbfuck. You said there were 3. If you want their names... Google them yourself.

yeah, 3 that had already provided testimony to the House. They did so behind closed doors to clarify that testimony, and only portions were released.

That's not what YOUR House Clowns were begging for. They wanted the Senate to subpoena new witnesses and start the investigation all over. That isn't the job of the Senate, Fuckwit.

YOUR House Clowns showed up to trial without a case, and got their asses handed to them.

3 witnesses was 3 more than that of Impeached Trump's trial. First time ever witnesses were not allowed at an impeachment trial.

OF ALL the witnesses brought before the senate to testify at an impeachment trial, there were exactly ZERO that were brought in that didn't already testify in the House. They were brought in to clarify previous testimony. So your point isn't valid. AT ALL. It's a Democrat talking point.

 

[Nostra]

When it comes right down to it, the republicans in the senate are a bunch of pussies.
Sen. Sherrod Brown: In private, Republicans admit they acquitted Trump out of fear

You really shouldn't let the blithering idiot tell you what to think.

 

[Faun]

They were legal.

Eastlan v. United States Servicemen's Fund

Issuance of subpoenas such as the one in question is a legitimate use by Congress of its power to investigate, and the subpoena power may be exercised by a committee acting, as here, on behalf of one of the Houses.

Faun, Please keep up. My point was that Trump's counsel was challenging the validity. It is up to the court to decide. Somewhere in that document (which I've read) the full committee has to sign off on the subpoenas and only the three chairpersons signed off on it. That makes it invalid. The dems needed to challenge it and the didn't cuz they wanted to hurry up and get him out before the election. After wouldn't do them any good. Don't be fooled by the BS.

Please cite the court case Trump filed to fight the subpoenas issued during the House inquiry...

He didn't need to initiate. His counsel responded in a letter stating the reasons for non compliance with what they felt was an invalid subpoena. It was the Dems job to take them to court. sigh...

Letters can't alter Congressional oversight. The Congress does not have to respond to letters. If Impeached Trump wanted to contest the validity of the subpoenas, he should have filed a case to that.

 

[Faun]

No one is proved innocent, fucking moron. In a court of law, you may be found "not guilty." That doesn't mean you're innocent, let alone, exonerated. It means the prosecutor couldn't prove you're guilty under the law.

And while be charged and taken to trial you are assumed to be innocent unless proven guilty. Therefore if not proven guilty, your back to being innocent. That's how our system works. Once found not guilty - you can only revert to innocent.

LOLOL

a) you do not revert to innocent. You remain not guilty.

b) presumption of innocence only applies to legal cases, which the Senate trial was not.

c) Impeached Trump could still face legal charges once he's out of office.

d) Impeached Trump is still Impeached remains so.

Exonerated forever.

Exonerated implies innocence, but regrettably, Impeached Trump was found "not guilty," not, "innocent."

Terrific, is this where you tell us what the definition of 'is" is?

Not my problem if you can't understand the meaning of "not guilty."

 

[bluzman61]

No one is proved innocent, f******* moron. In a court of law, you may be found "not guilty." That doesn't mean you're innocent, let alone, exonerated. It means the prosecutor couldn't prove you're guilty under the law.

Your vulgar filth and hatefulness have certainly convinced me, Faun.
I think you arrogant, condescending Leftists call yourselves "rational" and "intelligent." Your post certainly demonstrates such conduct. Why college professors use such language in their classrooms across the country, don't they? It's very convincing and powerful... to other Leftists, I mean. Not to anyone of wisdom.

"Anger comes from the bosom of a fool." - The Holy Bible

You are profanely angry and belong on my Ignore List.

ciao brutto

Fuck off, con. Maybe in another life you'll be capable of winning a debate without crying like a baby.

Talk about Projection.

What a GREAT exoneration it was! It's nice to see you agree.

 

[Faun]

No one is proved innocent, fucking moron. In a court of law, you may be found "not guilty." That doesn't mean you're innocent, let alone, exonerated. It means the prosecutor couldn't prove you're guilty under the law.

And while be charged and taken to trial you are assumed to be innocent unless proven guilty. Therefore if not proven guilty, your back to being innocent. That's how our system works. Once found not guilty - you can only revert to innocent.

LOLOL

a) you do not revert to innocent. You remain not guilty.

b) presumption of innocence only applies to legal cases, which the Senate trial was not.

c) Impeached Trump could still face legal charges once he's out of office.

d) Impeached Trump is still Impeached remains so.

Exonerated forever.

Exonerated implies innocence, but regrettably, Impeached Trump was found "not guilty," not, "innocent."

"Not guilty"?

Innocent UNTIL PROVEN guilty.

INNOCENT!

... presumption of innocence still applies to the justice system, dumbfuck.

 

[Ken Mac]

Who?

OJ Simpson, ya moron.

When was he President, Fuckwit?

No one ever said he was, dumbfuck. But using your twisted logic, if being found not guilty means one is innocent and exonerated, that means OJ is innocent and exonerated of murdering his wife and Goldman.

Are ya feeling stupid yet??

Let me ask you something. If you were charged with a crime and found not guilty, wouldn't you want others to think you're innocent? Especially if you fell you are innocent?

That's the America I know. The one you know and want leads to Totalitarianism.

Of course I would want that. That doesn't make it so.

Eastlan v. United States Servicemen's Fund

Issuance of subpoenas such as the one in question is a legitimate use by Congress of its power to investigate, and the subpoena power may be exercised by a committee acting, as here, on behalf of one of the Houses.

Faun, Please keep up. My point was that Trump's counsel was challenging the validity. It is up to the court to decide. Somewhere in that document (which I've read) the full committee has to sign off on the subpoenas and only the three chairpersons signed off on it. That makes it invalid. The dems needed to challenge it and the didn't cuz they wanted to hurry up and get him out before the election. After wouldn't do them any good. Don't be fooled by the BS.

Please cite the court case Trump filed to fight the subpoenas issued during the House inquiry...

He didn't need to initiate. His counsel responded in a letter stating the reasons for non compliance with what they felt was an invalid subpoena. It was the Dems job to take them to court. sigh...

Letters can't alter Congressional oversight. The Congress does not have to respond to letters. If Impeached Trump wanted to contest the validity of the subpoenas, he should have filed a case to that.

That's not how it works Faun. If you want something and someone won't give it to you, you have to initiate a court case. It's up to the requestor not the requested.

 

[bluzman61]

And while be charged and taken to trial you are assumed to be innocent unless proven guilty. Therefore if not proven guilty, your back to being innocent. That's how our system works. Once found not guilty - you can only revert to innocent.

LOLOL

a) you do not revert to innocent. You remain not guilty.

b) presumption of innocence only applies to legal cases, which the Senate trial was not.

c) Impeached Trump could still face legal charges once he's out of office.

d) Impeached Trump is still Impeached remains so.

Exonerated forever.

Exonerated implies innocence, but regrettably, Impeached Trump was found "not guilty," not, "innocent."

"Not guilty"?

Innocent UNTIL PROVEN guilty.

INNOCENT!

... presumption of innocence still applies to the justice system, dumbfuck.

Trump's exoneration sure was fantastic!

 

[Nostra]

And while be charged and taken to trial you are assumed to be innocent unless proven guilty. Therefore if not proven guilty, your back to being innocent. That's how our system works. Once found not guilty - you can only revert to innocent.

LOLOL

a) you do not revert to innocent. You remain not guilty.

b) presumption of innocence only applies to legal cases, which the Senate trial was not.

c) Impeached Trump could still face legal charges once he's out of office.

d) Impeached Trump is still Impeached remains so.

Exonerated forever.

Exonerated implies innocence, but regrettably, Impeached Trump was found "not guilty," not, "innocent."

"Not guilty"?

Innocent UNTIL PROVEN guilty.

INNOCENT!

... presumption of innocence still applies to the justice system, dumbfuck.

Never said it didn't. Man, you just can't keep up.

 

[Ken Mac]

LOLOL

a) you do not revert to innocent. You remain not guilty.

b) presumption of innocence only applies to legal cases, which the Senate trial was not.

c) Impeached Trump could still face legal charges once he's out of office.

d) Impeached Trump is still Impeached remains so.

Exonerated forever.

Exonerated implies innocence, but regrettably, Impeached Trump was found "not guilty," not, "innocent."

"Not guilty"?

Innocent UNTIL PROVEN guilty.

INNOCENT!

... presumption of innocence still applies to the justice system, dumbfuck.

Trump's exoneration sure was fantastic!

and.....

Exonerated forever. Isn't that awesome!

 

[Faun]

Eastlan v. United States Servicemen's Fund

Issuance of subpoenas such as the one in question is a legitimate use by Congress of its power to investigate, and the subpoena power may be exercised by a committee acting, as here, on behalf of one of the Houses.

Faun, Please keep up. My point was that Trump's counsel was challenging the validity. It is up to the court to decide. Somewhere in that document (which I've read) the full committee has to sign off on the subpoenas and only the three chairpersons signed off on it. That makes it invalid. The dems needed to challenge it and the didn't cuz they wanted to hurry up and get him out before the election. After wouldn't do them any good. Don't be fooled by the BS.

Please cite the court case Trump filed to fight the subpoenas issued during the House inquiry...

The House Clowns withdrew the subpoenas. It was on them to challenge the White House's opinion in court. They didn't.

The House pretty much agreed they were invalid by not going to court and getting a ruling.

Oops!

They withdrew the subpoena on Charles Kupperman. They didn't withdraw every subpoena.

The didn't go to court on any of them, as our system requires.

LOL

I already posted a link to the Eastland v. U.S. Servicemen's Fund case....

Have someone explain to you the implication of Eastland's name appearing first in that case.

 

[JustAGuy1]

And while be charged and taken to trial you are assumed to be innocent unless proven guilty. Therefore if not proven guilty, your back to being innocent. That's how our system works. Once found not guilty - you can only revert to innocent.

LOLOL

a) you do not revert to innocent. You remain not guilty.

b) presumption of innocence only applies to legal cases, which the Senate trial was not.

c) Impeached Trump could still face legal charges once he's out of office.

d) Impeached Trump is still Impeached remains so.

Exonerated forever.

Exonerated implies innocence, but regrettably, Impeached Trump was found "not guilty," not, "innocent."

"Not guilty"?

Innocent UNTIL PROVEN guilty.

INNOCENT!

... presumption of innocence still applies to the justice system, dumbfuck.

"b) presumption of innocence only applies to legal cases, which the Senate trial was not."

Prove this little man

 

[Faun]

No one is proved innocent, fucking moron. In a court of law, you may be found "not guilty." That doesn't mean you're innocent, let alone, exonerated. It means the prosecutor couldn't prove you're guilty under the law.

INNOCENT until proven guilty. He was not proven guilty, he was EXONERATED.


Innocent.

You lose, Loser. Deal with it.

...applies to the justice system, dumbfuck.

Yeah............yeah..............we know you single digit IQ morons think Trump was guilty until he proved his innocence, but that isn't how our system works. You are innocent until proven guilty in any venue, Fuckwit.

LOL

You're ineducable, dumbfuck.

Again... presumption of innocence applies to the justice system, not the Legislature.

So you are saying that you are guilty until proven innocent. Make up your feeble mind, you can't keep your story straight.

I never said that either, dumbfuck. You're hallucinating again.