Trump has now been implicated in a federal crime

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000166-79ef-d3f0-a1f7-ffefca860002

The parties spend some time debating whether Mr. Trump acted with "actual malice" or "reckless disregard for the truth" in issuing the tweet in question. Assuming that Plaintiff is a "public figure," Plaintiff would have to show that Defendant acted with "actual malice" or "reckless disregard for the truth" to prevail on a cause of action for defamation. See Bentley, 94 S.W.3d at 580. Plaintiff's focus on the actual malice argument comes as no surprise because Plaintiff stands on thin ice in asserting that Mr. Trump's tweet is an actionable statement. Instead, Plaintiff seeks to use her defamation action to engage in a "fishing expedition" concerning the conclusory allegations in the Complaint. The Court will not permit Plaintiff to exploit the legal process in this way. Specifically, Plaintiff contends that she needs to conduct discovery to determine if Mr. Trump was involved in the 2011 threat against her or if he purposefully avoided learning about the 2011 threat. See Opposition at 11. Plaintiff believes that discovery pertaining to these issues will help her to establish that Mr. Trump acted with actual malice or reckless disregard for the truth (i.e. if Ms. Clifford can provide evidence showing that Mr. Trump knew of the 2011 threat, then he tweeted a lie when he challenged Plaintiff's reporting of the 2011 threat). (See Transcript of Proceedings

at 29:23-30:4.) However, Plaintiff's reasoning is entirely circular. She assumes that Mr. Trump knew of the 2011 threat, argues in her Complaint and her briefing that Mr. Trump knew of the 2011 threat, and then asks this Court for discovery to prove that Mr. Trump knew of the 2011 threat. In doing so, Plaintiff does not allege facts establishing how Mr. Trump knew or did not know about the 2011 threat in the first place. Plaintiff must do this to sustain a cause of action for defamation.




Not the same but this is where Stormy lost the case in court already..............I find it funny that in that case the OPENLY STATED that he would NOT ALLOW A "FISHING EXPEDITION"...........too funny.

Oh by the way..........Stormy owed Trump legal fees as a result of this case.......LOL
:abgg2q.jpg:
:21::21::21::21: They just read off the sentencing for Cohen for which Trump orchestrated.tps://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/watch/prosecutors-in-new-york-file-sentencing-memo-for-michael-cohen-1391880771925:abgg2q.jpg: I'm with you on that laugh.

You are truly dumb as hell since the section of the MEMO you claim you have read shows this that doesn't make any sense since "hush" money are NOT Campaign money:

"During the campaign, Cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the rights to stories each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1so as to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election. With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. Cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. (PSR ¶ 51). In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1. (PSR ¶¶ 41, 45). As a result of Cohen’s actions, neither woman spoke to the press prior to the election. "

Paying people to not talk is NOT illegal.
The hush money scheme was at the direction of Trump, which is why we have felony court filings on Trump. In the mean time, Cohen is being sentenced for a crime that was at the direction of Trump.

Telling me hush money is not campaign money is totally irrelevant right now. It was stolen money from a charity that was never reported, and we the tax payer got ripped off and it was a few weeks before the election. Cohen is already going to jail for this crime, and Trump is next.

The fact that you think it wasn't campaign related is not relevant to prosecutors. They are tying it to the campaign, whether you like it or not.

Gosh you just ignored what the Prosecutors wrote!

"During the campaign, Cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the rights to stories each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1so as to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election. With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. Cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. (PSR ¶ 51). In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1. (PSR ¶¶ 41, 45). As a result of Cohen’s actions, neither woman spoke to the press prior to the election."

bolding mine

It is clearly HUSHING money, NOT campaign money. You have yet to show that HUSHING people with money is illegal or that it violates campaign laws.
At the direction of Trump while paying hush money with stolen money from a charity. That is illegal. Don't believe me, talk to prosecutors. They filed the felony with the courts.

 
Trump orchestrated it and has already been implicated by a felony court filing; tps://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/watch/prosecutors-in-new-york-file-sentencing-memo-for-michael-cohen-1391880771925 Try and keep it in the road boss.

you keep posting a link that doesn't back you up.

Slow learner?
Really? How so? With Cohen going to jail and the information that has already been provided in the court filing on Trump, what's not to back up?


Court filing on Trump?
What hole are you living in?



One that doesn't have total crap from MSNBC and Fox in it.

Glad to see you are sitting there with britches down with no debatable comeback.
 
At some point you fools need to read the writing on the wall. There is no crime and Trump is going to be president for a long time. You need to come to terms with this.
Fool, Have you read the OP?

Your Trumpenfuhrer has been found to have committed crimes.

Are you OK w/a criminal President?

No he has not. The SDNY threatened a man with 65 years in prison if he didn't say that. Are you ok with a fascist prosecutor?
 
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000166-79ef-d3f0-a1f7-ffefca860002

The parties spend some time debating whether Mr. Trump acted with "actual malice" or "reckless disregard for the truth" in issuing the tweet in question. Assuming that Plaintiff is a "public figure," Plaintiff would have to show that Defendant acted with "actual malice" or "reckless disregard for the truth" to prevail on a cause of action for defamation. See Bentley, 94 S.W.3d at 580. Plaintiff's focus on the actual malice argument comes as no surprise because Plaintiff stands on thin ice in asserting that Mr. Trump's tweet is an actionable statement. Instead, Plaintiff seeks to use her defamation action to engage in a "fishing expedition" concerning the conclusory allegations in the Complaint. The Court will not permit Plaintiff to exploit the legal process in this way. Specifically, Plaintiff contends that she needs to conduct discovery to determine if Mr. Trump was involved in the 2011 threat against her or if he purposefully avoided learning about the 2011 threat. See Opposition at 11. Plaintiff believes that discovery pertaining to these issues will help her to establish that Mr. Trump acted with actual malice or reckless disregard for the truth (i.e. if Ms. Clifford can provide evidence showing that Mr. Trump knew of the 2011 threat, then he tweeted a lie when he challenged Plaintiff's reporting of the 2011 threat). (See Transcript of Proceedings

at 29:23-30:4.) However, Plaintiff's reasoning is entirely circular. She assumes that Mr. Trump knew of the 2011 threat, argues in her Complaint and her briefing that Mr. Trump knew of the 2011 threat, and then asks this Court for discovery to prove that Mr. Trump knew of the 2011 threat. In doing so, Plaintiff does not allege facts establishing how Mr. Trump knew or did not know about the 2011 threat in the first place. Plaintiff must do this to sustain a cause of action for defamation.




Not the same but this is where Stormy lost the case in court already..............I find it funny that in that case the OPENLY STATED that he would NOT ALLOW A "FISHING EXPEDITION"...........too funny.

Oh by the way..........Stormy owed Trump legal fees as a result of this case.......LOL
:abgg2q.jpg:
:21::21::21::21: They just read off the sentencing for Cohen for which Trump orchestrated.tps://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/watch/prosecutors-in-new-york-file-sentencing-memo-for-michael-cohen-1391880771925:abgg2q.jpg: I'm with you on that laugh.

You are truly dumb as hell since the section of the MEMO you claim you have read shows this that doesn't make any sense since "hush" money are NOT Campaign money:

"During the campaign, Cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the rights to stories each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1so as to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election. With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. Cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. (PSR ¶ 51). In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1. (PSR ¶¶ 41, 45). As a result of Cohen’s actions, neither woman spoke to the press prior to the election. "

Paying people to not talk is NOT illegal.
The hush money scheme was at the direction of Trump, which is why we have felony court filings on Trump. In the mean time, Cohen is being sentenced for a crime that was at the direction of Trump.

Telling me hush money is not campaign money is totally irrelevant right now. It was stolen money from a charity that was never reported, and we the tax payer got ripped off and it was a few weeks before the election. Cohen is already going to jail for this crime, and Trump is next.

The fact that you think it wasn't campaign related is not relevant to prosecutors. They are tying it to the campaign, whether you like it or not.

Gosh you just ignored what the Prosecutors wrote!

"During the campaign, Cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the rights to stories each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1so as to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election. With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. Cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. (PSR ¶ 51). In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1. (PSR ¶¶ 41, 45). As a result of Cohen’s actions, neither woman spoke to the press prior to the election."

bolding mine

It is clearly HUSHING money, NOT campaign money. You have yet to show that HUSHING people with money is illegal or that it violates campaign laws.
At the direction of Trump while paying hush money with stolen money from a charity. That is illegal. Don't believe me, talk to prosecutors. They filed the felony with the courts.



That Charity Lawsuit has rendered a decision?

NOPE, they haven't as yet show that Trump used the Charity money illegally, you are running too far ahead of yourself here, which is why I have been running all over your obvious bullcrap!

Snicker....
 
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At some point you fools need to read the writing on the wall. There is no crime and Trump is going to be president for a long time. You need to come to terms with this.
Fool, Have you read the OP?

Your Trumpenfuhrer has been found to have committed crimes.

Are you OK w/a criminal President?

No he has not. The SDNY threatened a man with 65 years in prison if he didn't say that. Are you ok with a fascist prosecutor?
Judge Scolds Mueller: You're Just Using Manafort to Impeach Trump

A federal judge challenged special counsel Robert Mueller's prosecution of Paul Manafort, scolding prosecutors Friday for squeezing the former campaign manager to get information that would help impeach President Donald Trump.

"The vernacular is, 'to sing,'" Judge T.S. Ellis III, a Ronald Reagan appointee, told prosecutors in the Alexandria, Virginia, courtroom.

Ellis was hearing motion-to-dismiss arguments in the Virginia case, in which Mueller’s team has charged Manafort with filing false income tax returns, failing to report foreign bank accounts and bank fraud. The charges relate to work he did for the government of Ukraine.

"You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud," Ellis said during the hearing. "You really care about getting information Mr. Manafort can give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump and lead to his prosecution or impeachment."
Ellis didn't rule on the motion, saying he wants to see unredacted versions of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein's orders assigning special counsel before he can issue a ruling. Ellis gave prosecutors two weeks to provide.




Judge Ellis nailed what it's about in the Manifort case................Right on the money.
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At some point you fools need to read the writing on the wall. There is no crime and Trump is going to be president for a long time. You need to come to terms with this.
Fool, Have you read the OP?

Your Trumpenfuhrer has been found to have committed crimes.

Are you OK w/a criminal President?

No he has not. The SDNY threatened a man with 65 years in prison if he didn't say that. Are you ok with a fascist prosecutor?
Judge Scolds Mueller: You're Just Using Manafort to Impeach Trump

A federal judge challenged special counsel Robert Mueller's prosecution of Paul Manafort, scolding prosecutors Friday for squeezing the former campaign manager to get information that would help impeach President Donald Trump.

"The vernacular is, 'to sing,'" Judge T.S. Ellis III, a Ronald Reagan appointee, told prosecutors in the Alexandria, Virginia, courtroom.

Ellis was hearing motion-to-dismiss arguments in the Virginia case, in which Mueller’s team has charged Manafort with filing false income tax returns, failing to report foreign bank accounts and bank fraud. The charges relate to work he did for the government of Ukraine.

"You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud," Ellis said during the hearing. "You really care about getting information Mr. Manafort can give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump and lead to his prosecution or impeachment."
Ellis didn't rule on the motion, saying he wants to see unredacted versions of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein's orders assigning special counsel before he can issue a ruling. Ellis gave prosecutors two weeks to provide.




Judge Ellis nailed what it's about in the Manifort case................Right on the money.
image006-5.jpg
Awwww, poor Manafort. Too bad he was a career criminal, eh?
 
At some point you fools need to read the writing on the wall. There is no crime and Trump is going to be president for a long time. You need to come to terms with this.
Fool, Have you read the OP?

Your Trumpenfuhrer has been found to have committed crimes.

Are you OK w/a criminal President?

No he has not. The SDNY threatened a man with 65 years in prison if he didn't say that. Are you ok with a fascist prosecutor?
Judge Scolds Mueller: You're Just Using Manafort to Impeach Trump

A federal judge challenged special counsel Robert Mueller's prosecution of Paul Manafort, scolding prosecutors Friday for squeezing the former campaign manager to get information that would help impeach President Donald Trump.

"The vernacular is, 'to sing,'" Judge T.S. Ellis III, a Ronald Reagan appointee, told prosecutors in the Alexandria, Virginia, courtroom.

Ellis was hearing motion-to-dismiss arguments in the Virginia case, in which Mueller’s team has charged Manafort with filing false income tax returns, failing to report foreign bank accounts and bank fraud. The charges relate to work he did for the government of Ukraine.

"You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud," Ellis said during the hearing. "You really care about getting information Mr. Manafort can give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump and lead to his prosecution or impeachment."
Ellis didn't rule on the motion, saying he wants to see unredacted versions of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein's orders assigning special counsel before he can issue a ruling. Ellis gave prosecutors two weeks to provide.




Judge Ellis nailed what it's about in the Manifort case................Right on the money.
image006-5.jpg
Awwww, poor Manafort. Too bad he was a career criminal, eh?
Manafort was on Trump's team for a very short time..................The Judge Nailed it on what Mueller is doing ..........find anything.........and squeeze..........

It's never been about Russia............it's looking for any crime they can find anywhere and anytime...........with the full resources of the Federal Gov't and a unlimited Budget...............

It's a fully funded coup against the election............too bad they didn't have as enthusiasm about other crimes they ignored...........HSBC bank being one........oh can't put them in jail Comey used to work for them.
:abgg2q.jpg:
 
:21::21::21::21: They just read off the sentencing for Cohen for which Trump orchestrated.tps://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/watch/prosecutors-in-new-york-file-sentencing-memo-for-michael-cohen-1391880771925:abgg2q.jpg: I'm with you on that laugh.

You are truly dumb as hell since the section of the MEMO you claim you have read shows this that doesn't make any sense since "hush" money are NOT Campaign money:

"During the campaign, Cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the rights to stories each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1so as to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election. With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. Cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. (PSR ¶ 51). In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1. (PSR ¶¶ 41, 45). As a result of Cohen’s actions, neither woman spoke to the press prior to the election. "

Paying people to not talk is NOT illegal.
The hush money scheme was at the direction of Trump, which is why we have felony court filings on Trump. In the mean time, Cohen is being sentenced for a crime that was at the direction of Trump.

Telling me hush money is not campaign money is totally irrelevant right now. It was stolen money from a charity that was never reported, and we the tax payer got ripped off and it was a few weeks before the election. Cohen is already going to jail for this crime, and Trump is next.

The fact that you think it wasn't campaign related is not relevant to prosecutors. They are tying it to the campaign, whether you like it or not.

Gosh you just ignored what the Prosecutors wrote!

"During the campaign, Cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the rights to stories each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1so as to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election. With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. Cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. (PSR ¶ 51). In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1. (PSR ¶¶ 41, 45). As a result of Cohen’s actions, neither woman spoke to the press prior to the election."

bolding mine

It is clearly HUSHING money, NOT campaign money. You have yet to show that HUSHING people with money is illegal or that it violates campaign laws.
At the direction of Trump while paying hush money with stolen money from a charity. That is illegal. Don't believe me, talk to prosecutors. They filed the felony with the courts.



That Charity Lawsuit has rendered a decision?

Snicker....

Is it finished? Lol!
 
At some point you fools need to read the writing on the wall. There is no crime and Trump is going to be president for a long time. You need to come to terms with this.
Fool, Have you read the OP?

Your Trumpenfuhrer has been found to have committed crimes.

Are you OK w/a criminal President?

No he has not. The SDNY threatened a man with 65 years in prison if he didn't say that. Are you ok with a fascist prosecutor?
Judge Scolds Mueller: You're Just Using Manafort to Impeach Trump

A federal judge challenged special counsel Robert Mueller's prosecution of Paul Manafort, scolding prosecutors Friday for squeezing the former campaign manager to get information that would help impeach President Donald Trump.

"The vernacular is, 'to sing,'" Judge T.S. Ellis III, a Ronald Reagan appointee, told prosecutors in the Alexandria, Virginia, courtroom.

Ellis was hearing motion-to-dismiss arguments in the Virginia case, in which Mueller’s team has charged Manafort with filing false income tax returns, failing to report foreign bank accounts and bank fraud. The charges relate to work he did for the government of Ukraine.

"You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud," Ellis said during the hearing. "You really care about getting information Mr. Manafort can give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump and lead to his prosecution or impeachment."
Ellis didn't rule on the motion, saying he wants to see unredacted versions of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein's orders assigning special counsel before he can issue a ruling. Ellis gave prosecutors two weeks to provide.




Judge Ellis nailed what it's about in the Manifort case................Right on the money.
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Judge changed tone after that. Did you forget about that? lol!
 
You are truly dumb as hell since the section of the MEMO you claim you have read shows this that doesn't make any sense since "hush" money are NOT Campaign money:

"During the campaign, Cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the rights to stories each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1so as to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election. With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. Cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. (PSR ¶ 51). In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1. (PSR ¶¶ 41, 45). As a result of Cohen’s actions, neither woman spoke to the press prior to the election. "

Paying people to not talk is NOT illegal.
The hush money scheme was at the direction of Trump, which is why we have felony court filings on Trump. In the mean time, Cohen is being sentenced for a crime that was at the direction of Trump.

Telling me hush money is not campaign money is totally irrelevant right now. It was stolen money from a charity that was never reported, and we the tax payer got ripped off and it was a few weeks before the election. Cohen is already going to jail for this crime, and Trump is next.

The fact that you think it wasn't campaign related is not relevant to prosecutors. They are tying it to the campaign, whether you like it or not.

Gosh you just ignored what the Prosecutors wrote!

"During the campaign, Cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the rights to stories each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1so as to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election. With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. Cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. (PSR ¶ 51). In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1. (PSR ¶¶ 41, 45). As a result of Cohen’s actions, neither woman spoke to the press prior to the election."

bolding mine

It is clearly HUSHING money, NOT campaign money. You have yet to show that HUSHING people with money is illegal or that it violates campaign laws.
At the direction of Trump while paying hush money with stolen money from a charity. That is illegal. Don't believe me, talk to prosecutors. They filed the felony with the courts.



That Charity Lawsuit has rendered a decision?

Snicker....

Is it finished? Lol!


NO, it is still an ongoing case WITHOUT a decision, it was recently moved forward to proceed after a November ruling to continue the lawsuit.

You can't claim he used Charity money, since that case has NOT been decided. You should stop running far ahead of the legal situations you claim without merit.
 
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It's a fully funded coup against the election.......
Yes, we know. Russia really got their money's worth, too. No Russian interference = no President Trump. Thankfully, the correction is forthcoming.
You like looking the other way then........walk around with blinders on...........Steele used Russian officials to get dirt.........paid informants from RUSSIA WITH LOVE...........then they got FISA warrants on non proven information..........

There ya go..............You do know to get that FISA warrant they need 2 sets of proof to get permission to tap people don't you........Oh.......they used the same information and disguised it as something new and then didn't tell the FISA judge that it was paid for by the DNC.......

Nice double standards on........Keep your blinders on Lib.
 
It's a fully funded coup against the election.......
Yes, we know. Russia really got their money's worth, too. No Russian interference = no President Trump. Thankfully, the correction is forthcoming.
You like looking the other way then........walk around with blinders on...........Steele used Russian officials to get dirt.........paid informants from RUSSIA WITH LOVE...........then they got FISA warrants on non proven information..........

There ya go..............You do know to get that FISA warrant they need 2 sets of proof to get permission to tap people don't you........Oh.......they used the same information and disguised it as something new and then didn't tell the FISA judge that it was paid for by the DNC.......

Nice double standards on........Keep your blinders on Lib.
Haha...right....reality in now way matches any of your trump cult fantasies. Gee, must be everyone else that is crazy....heh heh
 
awe............did the judge say the truth and it hurt..............

Tell me about what HSBC did and they did nothing..........hmmm.......you want to go there............LOL
Usually you only comment on links you haven't read and don't understand when they are your own.
I quoted the Judge and the message.........which part did I miss..........I didn't miss it.......

Did he proceed with trial......yes........but he was absolutely correct in that statement............There's your unlimited scope.......get anything you can find......

Your supposed to investigate a given crime..........not go fishing..........which is this whole thing.
 

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