Trump Implies George Bush responsible for 9/11

[paulitician]

Trump's no big Bush Fan, and neither am i. But in fairness, Bush was President for all of what 8/9 months before 9/11? If you're gonna blame a President for 9/11, Bill Clinton would get most of the blame. He was in there 8yrs. leading up to 9/11. That being said, Trump's words have been twisted by the OP. A big Hillary fan? I would say yes. Trump doesn't like Bush, but he doesn't blame him solely for 9/11.

 

[whitehall]

"Somewhat responsible"... maybe. If Bush made any mistakes in his first eight months in office it was not firing every lazy SOB hired by Clinton and indicting Clinton/s A.G. for threatening to arrest any FBI agent who shared information with the CIA. That's the extent of his responsibility.

 

[paulitician]

"Somewhat responsible"... maybe. If Bush made any mistakes in his first eight months in office it was not firing every lazy SOB hired by Clinton and indicting Clinton/s A.G. for threatening to arrest any FBI agent who shared information with the CIA. That's the extent of his responsibility.

Yeah blaming Bush after only being in there 8/9 months, is pretty ludicrous. If you're gonna blame a President for 9/11, Bill Clinton would have to get most of the blame. He was in there a full 8yrs leading up to 9/11. All the planning for the 9/11 attacks was done on his watch.

 

[BlindBoo]

Trump's no big Bush Fan, and neither am i. But in fairness, Bush was President for all of what 8/9 months before 9/11? If you're gonna blame a President for 9/11, Bill Clinton would get most of the blame. He was in there 8yrs. leading up to 9/11. That being said, Trump's words have been twisted by the OP. A big Hillary fan? I would say yes. Trump doesn't like Bush, but he doesn't blame him solely for 9/11.

President Bush took the focus off Al Qaeda and terrorism in general and pushed missile defense as the way to protect us from Rogue Nations.

 

[paulitician]

Trump's no big Bush Fan, and neither am i. But in fairness, Bush was President for all of what 8/9 months before 9/11? If you're gonna blame a President for 9/11, Bill Clinton would get most of the blame. He was in there 8yrs. leading up to 9/11. That being said, Trump's words have been twisted by the OP. A big Hillary fan? I would say yes. Trump doesn't like Bush, but he doesn't blame him solely for 9/11.

Bush took the focus off Al Qaeda and terrorism in general and pushed missile defense as the way to protect us from Rogue Nations.

Did all that in just 8/9 months in office? Sorry, that's just ludicrous. Bill Clinton was in there a full 8yrs leading up to 9/11. All of the 9/11 attack plans were done on his watch.

So, if you wanna talk 'losing focus', maybe if Clinton wasn't focusing on being a corrupt serial pervert, he would have focused more on Bin Laden and Terrorism. Wadda ya think?

 

[easyt65]

Trump's no big Bush Fan, and neither am i. But in fairness, Bush was President for all of what 8/9 months before 9/11? If you're gonna blame a President for 9/11, Bill Clinton would get most of the blame. He was in there 8yrs. leading up to 9/11. That being said, Trump's words have been twisted by the OP. A big Hillary fan? I would say yes. Trump doesn't like Bush, but he doesn't blame him solely for 9/11.

No, No Hillary Fan...just bringing up a story being reported on the radio this morning to get some reality / discussion.

 

[Claudette]

Trump's no big Bush Fan, and neither am i. But in fairness, Bush was President for all of what 8/9 months before 9/11? If you're gonna blame a President for 9/11, Bill Clinton would get most of the blame. He was in there 8yrs. leading up to 9/11. That being said, Trump's words have been twisted by the OP. A big Hillary fan? I would say yes. Trump doesn't like Bush, but he doesn't blame him solely for 9/11.

Bush took the focus off Al Qaeda and terrorism in general and pushed missile defense as the way to protect us from Rogue Nations.

Did all that in just 8/9 months in office? Sorry, that's just ludicrous. Bill Clinton was in there a full 8yrs leading up to 9/11. All of the 9/11 attack plans were done on his watch.

So, if you wanna talk 'losing focus', maybe if Clinton wasn't focusing on being a corrupt serial pervert, he would have focused more on Bin Laden and Terrorism. Wadda ya think?

Yup and he had an FBI Agent John O'Neil trying to tell everyone something was going to happen. Didn't know when or where. He turned out to be right.

O'Neil was forced out of the FBI and took the job as head of security for the Twin Towers. O'Neil died in the South Tower on 9-11.

To bad he couldn't get anyone to listen to him. If they had there might not have been a 9-11.

 

[BlindBoo]

Did all that in just 8/9 months in office? Sorry, that's just ludicrous. Bill Clinton was in there a full 8yrs leading up to 9/11. All of the 9/11 attack plans were done on his watch.

Facts are not ludicrous.

WASHINGTON, April 1 (Xinhuanet) -- The White House had promoted missile defense, instead of combating terrorism, as the cornerstone of a new national security strategy before the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, The Washington Post reported Thursday.

On Sept. 11, 2001, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice was scheduled to deliver a speech outlining a Bush administration policy that would address the threats the United States faces. But the focus was largely on missile defense, not terrorism from Islamic radicals, the Post said.

The speech, which was never delivered because of the attacks, mentioned terrorism as one of the dangers from rouge nations such as Iraq rather than from the cells of extremists now considered the main security threat to the United States, the Post said. The text contained no mention of al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden or Islamic extremist groups.

The speech also implicitly challenged the Clinton administration's policy, saying it did not do enough about the real threat -- long-range missiles, according to excerpts of the speech provided to the Post.

The White House has declined to release the complete text of Rice's speech but did confirm the accuracy of the excerpts, the Post said. Former US officials provided a detailed summary of the speech, the newspaper said.

NewsMine.org - Bush focused on missile defense not terrorism before 911

 

[paulitician]

Did all that in just 8/9 months in office? Sorry, that's just ludicrous. Bill Clinton was in there a full 8yrs leading up to 9/11. All of the 9/11 attack plans were done on his watch.

Facts are not ludicrous.

WASHINGTON, April 1 (Xinhuanet) -- The White House had promoted missile defense, instead of combating terrorism, as the cornerstone of a new national security strategy before the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, The Washington Post reported Thursday.

On Sept. 11, 2001, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice was scheduled to deliver a speech outlining a Bush administration policy that would address the threats the United States faces. But the focus was largely on missile defense, not terrorism from Islamic radicals, the Post said.

The speech, which was never delivered because of the attacks, mentioned terrorism as one of the dangers from rouge nations such as Iraq rather than from the cells of extremists now considered the main security threat to the United States, the Post said. The text contained no mention of al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden or Islamic extremist groups.

The speech also implicitly challenged the Clinton administration's policy, saying it did not do enough about the real threat -- long-range missiles, according to excerpts of the speech provided to the Post.

The White House has declined to release the complete text of Rice's speech but did confirm the accuracy of the excerpts, the Post said. Former US officials provided a detailed summary of the speech, the newspaper said.

NewsMine.org - Bush focused on missile defense not terrorism before 911

Seriously, come on. The man was in there only 8/9 months before 9/11. In reality, your guy should get most of the blame. He was in there a full 8yrs leading up to 9/11. But i guess he was too busy being a corrupt serial pervert to care. It is what it is.

 

[easyt65]

So BB, are you saying that Bush should have KNOWN about the 9/11 planning Clinton failed to detect, should have KNOWN that terrorists were planning on using airliners as 'missiles' (which had never done before), and been able to prevent 9/11 when even Clinton couldn't?

 

[Vigilante]

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[BlindBoo]

So BB, are you saying that Bush should have KNOWN about the 9/11 planning Clinton failed to detect, should have KNOWN that terrorists were planning on using airliners as 'missiles' (which had never done before), and been able to prevent 9/11 when even Clinton couldn't?

No Easy, I'm saying President Bush focused almost exclusively on missile defense and almost completely ignored the Radical Islamic threat that his predecessor tried to warn him about.

 

[easyt65]

No Easy, I'm saying President Bush focused almost exclusively on missile defense and almost completely ignored the Radical Islamic threat that his predecessor tried to warn him about.

Which predecessor would that have been? So you're saying Clinton actually had a CLUE about the massively rising threat, which he did NOTHING about himself, but specifically warned W to do something about it?!

BTW, the Hijacking Policy for Airlines at the time was to comply with anything a hijacker demanded, because up until 9/11/01 what could be expected was a demand to fly to another location / country. NO ONE even considered that an airliner would be used as a weapons - NO ONE. So saying Bush should have seen this coming and created a program / policy to defend against something that had not even been conceived of yet is a lot of great Monday Morning Quarterbacking.

 

[flacaltenn]

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[BlindBoo]

No Easy, I'm saying President Bush focused almost exclusively on missile defense and almost completely ignored the Radical Islamic threat that his predecessor tried to warn him about.

Which predecessor would that have been? So you're saying Clinton actually had a CLUE about the massively rising threat, which he did NOTHING about himself, but specifically warned W to do something about it?!

BTW, the Hijacking Policy for Airlines at the time was to comply with anything a hijacker demanded, because up until 9/11/01 what could be expected was a demand to fly to another location / country. NO ONE even considered that an airliner would be used as a weapons - NO ONE. So saying Bush should have seen this coming and created a program / policy to defend against something that had not even been conceived of yet is a lot of great Monday Morning Quarterbacking.

President Bushes agenda pre 9-11 is plan as day.


Measures taken by the Clinton administration to thwart international terrorism and bin Laden's network were historic, unprecedented and, sadly, not followed up on. Consider the steps offered by Clinton's 1996 omnibus anti-terror legislation, the pricetag for which stood at $1.097 billion. The following is a partial list of the initiatives offered by the Clinton anti-terrorism bill:

• Screen Checked Baggage: $91.1 million
  
• Screen Carry-On Baggage: $37.8 million
  
• Passenger Profiling: $10 million
  
• Screener Training: $5.3 million
  
• Screen Passengers (portals) and Document Scanners: $1 million
  
• Deploying Existing Technology to Inspect International Air Cargo: $31.4
  million
  
• Provide Additional Air/Counterterrorism Security: $26.6 million
  
• Explosives Detection Training: $1.8 million
  
• Augment FAA Security Research: $20 million
  
• Customs Service: Explosives and Radiation Detection Equipment at Ports: $2.2 million
  
• Anti-Terrorism Assistance to Foreign Governments: $2 million
  
• Capacity to Collect and Assemble Explosives Data: $2.1 million
  
• Improve Domestic Intelligence: $38.9 million
  
• Critical Incident Response Teams for Post-Blast Deployment: $7.2 million
  
• Additional Security for Federal Facilities: $6.7 million
  
• Firefighter/Emergency Services Financial Assistance: $2.7 million
  
• Public Building and Museum Security: $7.3 million
  
• Improve Technology to Prevent Nuclear Smuggling: $8 million
  
• Critical Incident Response Facility: $2 million
  
• Counter-Terrorism Fund: $35 million
  
• Explosives Intelligence and Support Systems: $14.2 million
  
• Office of Emergency Preparedness: $5.8 million

The Clinton administration poured more than a billion dollars into counterterrorism activities across the entire spectrum of the intelligence community, into the protection of critical infrastructure, into massive federal stockpiling of antidotes and vaccines to prepare for a possible bioterror attack, into a reorganization of the intelligence community itself. Within the National Security Council, "threat meetings" were held three times a week to assess looming conspiracies. His National Security Advisor, Sandy Berger, prepared a voluminous dossier on al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden, actively tracking them across the planet. Clinton raised the issue of terrorism in virtually every important speech he gave in the last three years of his tenure.

Clinton's dire public warnings about the threat posed by terrorism, and the actions taken to thwart it, went completely unreported by the media, which was far more concerned with stained dresses and baseless Drudge Report rumors. When the administration did act militarily against bin Laden and his terrorist network, the actions were dismissed by partisans within the media and Congress as scandalous "wag the dog" tactics. The news networks actually broadcast clips of the movie "Wag the Dog" while reporting on his warnings, to accentuate the idea that everything the administration said was contrived fakery.

In Congress, Clinton was thwarted by the reactionary conservative majority in virtually every attempt he made to pass legislation that would attack al-Qaeda and terrorism. His 1996 omnibus terror bill, which included many of the anti-terror measures we now take for granted after September 11, was withered almost to the point of uselessness by attacks from the right; Senators Jesse Helms and Trent Lott were openly dismissive of the threats Clinton spoke of.

Clinton, 9/11 and the Facts

 

[easyt65]

Bush.....
Clinton.....

BB, you still haven't shown me that had Bush carried on with Clinton's own EXACT SAME anti-terrorist programs how he would have been able to prevent 9/11. Wasn't going to happen because the great Clinton anti-terrorism program you just cited FAILED to detect and stop the planning of 9/11, an event no one had ever conceived of.

 

[longknife]

and , some further words of wisdom by Mr. Trump that I agree with Happy !! --- Trump triples down on George W. Bush’s responsibility for 9/11 --- according to another poster the Trump is avoiding further discussion on his gwb' comments but here are some more comments in link that I can agree with Happy !!

I think The Donald's remarks are right on point.

It was an intelligence, immigration, and management problem that caused it.

 

[longknife]

There is only one way to stop terrorism - wipe out the two nations supporting it the most - Iran and Saudi Arabia.

 

[BlindBoo]

Bush.....
Clinton.....

BB, you still haven't shown me that had Bush carried on with Clinton's own EXACT SAME anti-terrorist programs how he would have been able to prevent 9/11. Wasn't going to happen because the great Clinton anti-terrorism program you just cited FAILED to detect and stop the planning of 9/11, an event no one had ever conceived of.

Since that's not what I'm trying to do, so what? President Bush could have come up with his own plan to deal with the ME Terrorist who had just blown hole in one of our warships docked in Yemen but he didn't, he choose instead to focus on missle defense.

 

[jillian]

Hey, he finally got one right.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...gests-george-bush-failed-to-stop-911-attacks/

“When you talk about George Bush, I mean, say what you want, the World Trade Center came down during his time,” Mr. Trump said.

it's about time someone said it.....

maybe jeb shouldn't have kept saying his brother kept us safe.... unless, of course, you count the 3,000 people who died in my city...

he probably should have paid attention to the PDB of 8/6/01