Kilroy2
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well there is a difference in believing such lines or calling their bluffYes. If the FBI told me if I didn’t they would destroy my son, as the FBI told Flynn.Signed under duress. (look the word up if you need to)The preceding statement is a summary, made for the purpose of providing the Court with a factual basis for my guilty plea to the charge against me. It does not include all of the facts known to me regarding this offense. I make this statement knowingly and voluntarily and because I am, in fact, guilty of the crime charged. No threats have been made to me nor am I under the influence of anything that could impede my ability to understand this Statement of the Offense fully. I have read every word of this Statement of the Offense, or have had it read to me. Pursuant to Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 11, after consulting with my attorneys, I agree and stipulate to this Statement of the Offense, and declare under penalty of perjury that it is true and correct.Once the prosecution admitted that Flynn didn't lie and there was prosecutorial misconduct in threatening his family all those Flynn lied stories went out the window. The prosecutors made a full confession. It was only racist judge Sullivan that kept this alive.He lied to the FBI and that was his only crime that he was sentenced to. They had the transcripts of the calls and he lied.
An retired military officer and he does not know that he cannot lie to the FBI especially if they come to his office. If he had just admitted to it then it probably would have been dismissed.
Still I do not have a problem with the pardon. It really doesn't vindicate what he did but at the end of the day it is who you know.
this is a court document signed by Flynn on the DOJ website
lets not confuse he admitted guilt of lying with right wing propaganda on whether he deserved a light or heavy sentence or to be pardon. He admitted guilt and was found guilty of lying.
U.S. v. Michael T. Flynn (1:17-cr-232, District of Columbia) (justice.gov)
Yeah so you would sign incriminating court evidence under duress. No , if truth is own your side then you got to stick with it no matter what.
Claiming duress after the fact is a coward's way out. Once you sign your name own up to it.
Now if the FBI put a gun to your head then let them pull the trigger and stick to the story if your innocent.
Trump would have pardon him so why not lie and say it didn't happen. That way he can take it to the grave claiming his innocence.
he signed the document, duress has nothing to do with it other than making excuses.
Still why would they threaten his son when they had tapes of his conversations?
Here is the deal. He was a military general. He orders men to do their job. They may live and he is a hero and they may die and he did his job.
He does not buckle under that pressure, and that is why he admitted what he did. If his son was guilty of something then they have to proof it. This is not monopoly. Police will play games to get you to confess. That is what they do. If your innocent then you stay the course. He knew lying to the FBI was wrong as he was in the military and had knowledge of security issues and that lying to the FBI was a crime. Yet he still lied and thought he could get away with it. A complex man at least but I guess a man that has fallen.
Now he listens to his lawyers who tell him to resist and they must know what they are doing because they played to Trump and forced him to pardon him. Thus it was the only reason he cried foul.