Trump properties fire illegals.........

[pknopp]

At what point do you care?

Why are liberals so anxious to keep Illegals in this country, receiving Free Health Care, legal representation and Housing, and are so offended by them working?

Either answer my question or chase your boogeymen elsewhere.

Is this the Liberal strategy? To make sure Illegals are a permanent, protected underclass whose loyalty to Socialism will be unquestioned?

I am arguing that employers that hire illegals should be hammered hard. I'm arguing that Trump is a massive hypocrite here. You can address either point or continue to chase your boogeymen.

Why should employers be "hit hard" when the Illegals themselves aren't hit hard, or even deported?

Not only aren't illegals hit hard, they are honored as tremendous "refugees" entitled to the very best, education, healthcare, sex change operations. etc

No they aren’t. Do you guys ever stop lying?

Apparently, you aren't familiar with the news or the Democrat Debates. The Democrat candidates have made a sacred vow to provide Health Care to illegals INCLUDING sex change transitioning services.

And MANY states permit Illegals access to government schools in the K-12 range as well as giving special in-state rates for Illegals.

Did Elizabeth Warren Say Taxpayers Should Fund Sex-Reassignment Surgery?

Proposals are not realities. We do not offer health care. We do offer millions of jobs though.

 

[Muhammed]

Until I see these Trumpers demand that employers GO TO JAIL when they repeatedly and or KNOWINGLY hire illegals -- this includes trying to use 3rd party temp agencies to do it


If they aint talking about putting these employers in jail -- then all of this talk about illegal immigration is thinly veiled racist xenophobia...

They have already put several of them in jail, you fucking stupid ignorant jackass.

Why are you so fucking ignorant of that fact? Is it your TDS?

 

[pknopp]

Until I see these Trumpers demand that employers GO TO JAIL when they repeatedly and or KNOWINGLY hire illegals -- this includes trying to use 3rd party temp agencies to do it


If they aint talking about putting these employers in jail -- then all of this talk about illegal immigration is thinly veiled racist xenophobia...

They have already put several of them in jail, you fucking stupid ignorant jackass.

Why are you so fucking ignorant of that fact? Is it your TDS?

Trump has not charged a single employer. Not a one.

 

[Coyote]

Until I see these Trumpers demand that employers GO TO JAIL when they repeatedly and or KNOWINGLY hire illegals -- this includes trying to use 3rd party temp agencies to do it


If they aint talking about putting these employers in jail -- then all of this talk about illegal immigration is thinly veiled racist xenophobia...

They have already put several of them in jail, you fucking stupid ignorant jackass.

Why are you so fucking ignorant of that fact? Is it your TDS?

Trump has not charged a single employer. Not a one.

Employers vote and donate money. Illegals don’t.

 

[pknopp]

Until I see these Trumpers demand that employers GO TO JAIL when they repeatedly and or KNOWINGLY hire illegals -- this includes trying to use 3rd party temp agencies to do it


If they aint talking about putting these employers in jail -- then all of this talk about illegal immigration is thinly veiled racist xenophobia...

They have already put several of them in jail, you fucking stupid ignorant jackass.

Why are you so fucking ignorant of that fact? Is it your TDS?

Trump has not charged a single employer. Not a one.

Employers vote and donate money. Illegals don’t.

Right, which goes to the point I've long made. We have no desire to address the problem because business does not want it addressed.

 

[Coyote]

Until I see these Trumpers demand that employers GO TO JAIL when they repeatedly and or KNOWINGLY hire illegals -- this includes trying to use 3rd party temp agencies to do it


If they aint talking about putting these employers in jail -- then all of this talk about illegal immigration is thinly veiled racist xenophobia...

They have already put several of them in jail, you fucking stupid ignorant jackass.

Why are you so fucking ignorant of that fact? Is it your TDS?

Trump has not charged a single employer. Not a one.

Employers vote and donate money. Illegals don’t.

Right, which goes to the point I've long made. We have no desire to address the problem because business does not want it addressed.

Yup.

But it also isn’t so simple.

The illegals are a filling a need. If the need wasn’t there, employers wouldn’t hire them.

So what are they getting from illegal labor market that they can’t get from the legal labor market.

What is needed is bipartisan comprehensive immigration overhaul but all we ever get is miles of road and a heavily dented can.

 

[pknopp]

Until I see these Trumpers demand that employers GO TO JAIL when they repeatedly and or KNOWINGLY hire illegals -- this includes trying to use 3rd party temp agencies to do it


If they aint talking about putting these employers in jail -- then all of this talk about illegal immigration is thinly veiled racist xenophobia...

They have already put several of them in jail, you fucking stupid ignorant jackass.

Why are you so fucking ignorant of that fact? Is it your TDS?

Trump has not charged a single employer. Not a one.

Employers vote and donate money. Illegals don’t.

Right, which goes to the point I've long made. We have no desire to address the problem because business does not want it addressed.

Yup.

But it also isn’t so simple.

The illegals are a filling a need. If the need wasn’t there, employers wouldn’t hire them.

So what are they getting from illegal labor market that they can’t get from the legal labor market.

What is needed is bipartisan comprehensive immigration overhaul but all we ever get is miles of road and a heavily dented can.

It allows the politicians keep the people separated.

 

[Muhammed]

Until I see these Trumpers demand that employers GO TO JAIL when they repeatedly and or KNOWINGLY hire illegals -- this includes trying to use 3rd party temp agencies to do it


If they aint talking about putting these employers in jail -- then all of this talk about illegal immigration is thinly veiled racist xenophobia...

They have already put several of them in jail, you fucking stupid ignorant jackass.

Why are you so fucking ignorant of that fact? Is it your TDS?

Trump has not charged a single employer. Not a one.

Could you explain the reasoning that you used to come to that ridiculous conclusion?

Who told you that, and why did you believe them?

Is it your TDS?

 

[pknopp]

Until I see these Trumpers demand that employers GO TO JAIL when they repeatedly and or KNOWINGLY hire illegals -- this includes trying to use 3rd party temp agencies to do it


If they aint talking about putting these employers in jail -- then all of this talk about illegal immigration is thinly veiled racist xenophobia...

They have already put several of them in jail, you fucking stupid ignorant jackass.

Why are you so fucking ignorant of that fact? Is it your TDS?

Trump has not charged a single employer. Not a one.

Could you explain the reasoning that you used to come to that ridiculous conclusion?

It's a fact.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Only after the season ends and their help is no longer needed. The bigger picture argument here is also the fact that those who claim that Trump businesses don't hire illegals are wrong.


The timing of the firings at the rural Virginia winery, 11 months after the company began purging the ranks of undocumented greenskeepers and cooks at Trump golf courses, came during the vineyard’s winter downtime. Workers had finished the arduous annual grape harvest, which involved working 60-hour weeks and overnight shifts under floodlights.


Two of the fired workers — Omar Miranda, a 42-year-old tractor driver from Honduras, and a second employee who spoke on the condition of anonymity — said they thought the company had held off on firing them until after the year’s work was complete, taking advantage of their labor for as long as possible. Both had worked at the winery for more than a decade.

Worked there for more than a decade. Is it any wonder he does nothing about the employers that are hiring millions of illegals?

Trump Organization fires more undocumented workers — a year after its use of illegal labor was revealed

He would have to arrest his own employee's.

President Trump has his properties in a Blind Trust right now. The trustees are Donald Jr. and Eric Trump.

If these Illegals felt bad about working there, they should have quit.

They should have quit? They shouldn't have been hired in the first place? This was in a blind trust a decade ago when hired? (there is also no such thing as a blind trust. It's a lie politicians use)

I also didn't see where they complained about working there.

The point is that these Illegals knew that they were illegal, but didn't inform their bosses in writing about that fact.

They committed a crime.

Job applications nowadays ask prospective employees quite directly if they are legal. I bet they said they were. That's perjury.

Actually, that is NOT "perjury". look the word up.

 

[Vandalshandle]

"Merry Christmas! You are fired."

Sincerely,

Donald Trump

 

[Muhammed]

Until I see these Trumpers demand that employers GO TO JAIL when they repeatedly and or KNOWINGLY hire illegals -- this includes trying to use 3rd party temp agencies to do it


If they aint talking about putting these employers in jail -- then all of this talk about illegal immigration is thinly veiled racist xenophobia...

They have already put several of them in jail, you fucking stupid ignorant jackass.

Why are you so fucking ignorant of that fact? Is it your TDS?

Trump has not charged a single employer. Not a one.

Could you explain the reasoning that you used to come to that ridiculous conclusion?

It's a fact.

How did you come to that conclusion?

Did you just presume that was a fact because of your TDS affliction?

Can you provide any sort of evidence that it is a fact?

 

[Vandalshandle]

Until I see these Trumpers demand that employers GO TO JAIL when they repeatedly and or KNOWINGLY hire illegals -- this includes trying to use 3rd party temp agencies to do it


If they aint talking about putting these employers in jail -- then all of this talk about illegal immigration is thinly veiled racist xenophobia...

They have already put several of them in jail, you fucking stupid ignorant jackass.

Why are you so fucking ignorant of that fact? Is it your TDS?

Trump has not charged a single employer. Not a one.

More than that, he commuted the sentence of one such employer:

Postville raid - Wikipedia

 

[pknopp]

Until I see these Trumpers demand that employers GO TO JAIL when they repeatedly and or KNOWINGLY hire illegals -- this includes trying to use 3rd party temp agencies to do it


If they aint talking about putting these employers in jail -- then all of this talk about illegal immigration is thinly veiled racist xenophobia...

They have already put several of them in jail, you fucking stupid ignorant jackass.

Why are you so fucking ignorant of that fact? Is it your TDS?

Trump has not charged a single employer. Not a one.

Could you explain the reasoning that you used to come to that ridiculous conclusion?

It's a fact.

How did you come to that conclusion?

Did you just presume that was a fact because of your TDS affliction?

Can you provide any sort of evidence that it is a fact?

I am unable to prove something that never happened.

 

[pknopp]

Until I see these Trumpers demand that employers GO TO JAIL when they repeatedly and or KNOWINGLY hire illegals -- this includes trying to use 3rd party temp agencies to do it


If they aint talking about putting these employers in jail -- then all of this talk about illegal immigration is thinly veiled racist xenophobia...

They have already put several of them in jail, you fucking stupid ignorant jackass.

Why are you so fucking ignorant of that fact? Is it your TDS?

Trump has not charged a single employer. Not a one.

More than that, he commuted the sentence of one such employer:

Postville raid - Wikipedia

Right. I had forgot about that. Trump is not a serious person.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Until I see these Trumpers demand that employers GO TO JAIL when they repeatedly and or KNOWINGLY hire illegals -- this includes trying to use 3rd party temp agencies to do it


If they aint talking about putting these employers in jail -- then all of this talk about illegal immigration is thinly veiled racist xenophobia...

They have already put several of them in jail, you fucking stupid ignorant jackass.

Why are you so fucking ignorant of that fact? Is it your TDS?

Trump has not charged a single employer. Not a one.

Trump doesn't charge any one with anything. No president does.

 

[Muhammed]

They have already put several of them in jail, you fucking stupid ignorant jackass.

Why are you so fucking ignorant of that fact? Is it your TDS?

Trump has not charged a single employer. Not a one.

Could you explain the reasoning that you used to come to that ridiculous conclusion?

It's a fact.

How did you come to that conclusion?

Did you just presume that was a fact because of your TDS affliction?

Can you provide any sort of evidence that it is a fact?

I am unable to prove something that never happened.

OK.
Of course, logically you cannot prove your ridiculous negative assertion that you claimed was a "fact".

So did you just presume it was a fact due to your unfortunate TDS affliction?
Or what?

If the obvious logical fallacy you presented to the forum was not due to your TDS, then how else do you explain it?

 

[Muhammed]

Hayward Man Convicted Of Forced Labor And Harboring Illegal Aliens

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U.S. Attorney’s Office
Northern District of California
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Monday, March 18, 2019
Hayward Man Convicted Of Forced Labor And Harboring Illegal Aliens
OAKLAND - A federal jury convicted Job Torres Hernandez of charges that he obtained forced labor from victims and harbored illegal aliens for commercial advantage or private financial gain, announced United States Attorney David L. Anderson and Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) Special Agent-in-Charge Ryan L. Spradlin. The conviction follows a ten day trial before the Honorable Jeffrey S. White, U.S. District Judge.

The evidence at trial demonstrated that since at least May 2015, Torres, 38, of Hayward, Calif., owned construction companies in Northern California at which he employed workers to whom he paid little to nothing for their labor. Torres recruited workers from Mexico to work for his construction companies and then refused to pay them the wages they had earned. Further, Torres knew the workers had come to, entered, and remained in the United States in violation of the law; he kept the workers in squalid conditions and shielded them from detection while making them work as long as 24 consecutive hours at a time. Many victims testified at trial, with the assistance of an interpreter, about how Torres treated them. Witnesses testified that Torres paid them far less than what he had promised to pay them, and when they complained, Torres threatened them or their family members. Specifically, the evidence demonstrated Torres warned his victims that if they reported him, then he would harm them physically, have associates in Mexico harm their family, and have them deported. The evidence also demonstrated that Torres told his victims that if they went to police or filed suit against him, no one would believe them. In addition, Torres housed dozens of workers on makeshift beds in a commercial warehouse in Hayward, Calif., and other properties including a garage in Hayward. The workers had limited access to toilets and showers, and at times, the properties were locked, preventing the workers from leaving. Torres harbored these individuals for the purpose of obtaining an advantage in the construction industry and for his private financial gain.

On December 6, 2018, a federal grand jury handed down a superseding indictment, charging Torres with one count of harboring illegal aliens for commercial advantage or private financial gain, in violation of 8 U.S.C. §§ 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) and (B)(i), and one count of forced labor, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1589(a). The jury convicted Torres of both counts.

Judge White ordered the U.S. Marshals Service to take Torres into custody immediately, pending sentencing. Judge White scheduled Torres’s sentencing hearing for June 25, 2019. Torres now faces a maximum statutory penalty of 10 years in prison, and a fine of $250,000, for harboring illegal aliens, and 20 years in prison, and a fine of $250,000, for the forced labor violation. In addition, the court may order Torres to serve an additional term of supervised release and to pay forfeiture and restitution, if appropriate. However, any sentence following conviction will be imposed by the court only after consideration of the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and the federal statute governing the imposition of a sentence, 18 U.S.C. § 3553.

Assistant U.S. Attorneys Ravi T. Narayan and Jonathan U. Lee are prosecuting the case with the assistance of Vanessa Quant, Jessica Rodriguez Gonzalez, and Kimberly Richardson. The prosecution is the result of an investigation by the Department of Homeland Security’s Human Trafficking Unit; Department of Labor’s Wage and Hour Division; and the San Francisco Police Department’s Special Victims Unit.


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[pknopp]

Until I see these Trumpers demand that employers GO TO JAIL when they repeatedly and or KNOWINGLY hire illegals -- this includes trying to use 3rd party temp agencies to do it


If they aint talking about putting these employers in jail -- then all of this talk about illegal immigration is thinly veiled racist xenophobia...

They have already put several of them in jail, you fucking stupid ignorant jackass.

Why are you so fucking ignorant of that fact? Is it your TDS?

Trump has not charged a single employer. Not a one.

Trump doesn't charge any one with anything. No president does.

Trump is the top law enforcement official but keep on making excuses. One day when all the illegals are made citizens you will wish you hadn't.

 

[pknopp]

Trump has not charged a single employer. Not a one.

Could you explain the reasoning that you used to come to that ridiculous conclusion?

It's a fact.

How did you come to that conclusion?

Did you just presume that was a fact because of your TDS affliction?

Can you provide any sort of evidence that it is a fact?

I am unable to prove something that never happened.

OK.
Of course, logically you cannot prove your ridiculous negative assertion that you claimed was a "fact".

So did you just presume it was a fact due to your unfortunate TDS affliction?
Or what?

If the obvious logical fallacy you presented to the forum was not due to your TDS, then how else do you explain it?

I claimed it a fact because it's a fact. If it wasn't you would have provided examples of his administration charging someone. Even at that, if he was serious there would be examples in the news every week. It's not going to happen, you know it's not going to happen. It should would be embarrassing to have to arrest those running his own properties.