Trump should enact a travel ban from Germany, France, Belgium...etc.

[Vastator]

In his usual narcissistic macho style. Trump has tried to fulfill one of his campaign promises that was dumb then as it is now that he is president (basically, many of us had hoped that Trump would grow up after his campaign, but we're disappointed that he is still a spoiled child as president.)

Anyway, Trump travel ban is ...well, stupid......If we look at terrorists in France, Germany, Belgium, etc., we would see that those bastards were either citizens or actually BORN in those countries......Ergo, following Trump's inanity, we should ban citizens of those countries, No????

Couple the above with the fact that Saudi Arabia (home of 15 of the 9-11 bastards) is not part of the ban, and the fact that ISIS is sending "thank you" notes to Trump for helping ISIS in recruiting more jihadists.....and you too would conclude that Trump has committed our country in yet another....fuck up.

You Democrats, and leftists opinions were dismissed last November. So you can dispense with using the name Trump; and the word should in the same sentence. Your ideas, much like your opinions; are irrelevant...

 

[Bleipriester]

In his usual narcissistic macho style. Trump has tried to fulfill one of his campaign promises that was dumb then as it is now that he is president (basically, many of us had hoped that Trump would grow up after his campaign, but we're disappointed that he is still a spoiled child as president.)

Anyway, Trump travel ban is ...well, stupid......If we look at terrorists in France, Germany, Belgium, etc., we would see that those bastards were either citizens or actually BORN in those countries......Ergo, following Trump's inanity, we should ban citizens of those countries, No????

Couple the above with the fact that Saudi Arabia (home of 15 of the 9-11 bastards) is not part of the ban, and the fact that ISIS is sending "thank you" notes to Trump for helping ISIS in recruiting more jihadists.....and you too would conclude that Trump has committed our country in yet another....fuck up.

I agree on the Saudi Arabia thingy and think it is because the big fat Saudi king my get angry when his private entrepreneurs get banned.
On the other hand we have an Obama ban of refugees in 2011 and nobody of the oh so outraged protesters lifted a finger.

When did the public find out about Obama's ban and for what reason was there a ban?

So you are the second one bringing in the reason for Obama´s ban order without explaining it. I think the reason is clear: ISIS terrorism.

Why not answer the question? When did Americans find out about Obama's ban?

In 2011 when it was in the news, I guess.

 

[Bleipriester]

The difference is that Saint Barrack issued the ban.

Too dumb to even be using the internet...LOL

Any point besides that you start speaking drivel when your points fade?

 

[oreo]

In his usual narcissistic macho style. Trump has tried to fulfill one of his campaign promises that was dumb then as it is now that he is president (basically, many of us had hoped that Trump would grow up after his campaign, but we're disappointed that he is still a spoiled child as president.)

Anyway, Trump travel ban is ...well, stupid......If we look at terrorists in France, Germany, Belgium, etc., we would see that those bastards were either citizens or actually BORN in those countries......Ergo, following Trump's inanity, we should ban citizens of those countries, No????

Couple the above with the fact that Saudi Arabia (home of 15 of the 9-11 bastards) is not part of the ban, and the fact that ISIS is sending "thank you" notes to Trump for helping ISIS in recruiting more jihadists.....and you too would conclude that Trump has committed our country in yet another....fuck up.

Hell the way it's going, it wouldn't surprise me to see Europe block Americans from entering their countries and Mexico actually building a WALL to keep Americans out--LOL

The Comrade piss's them off enough, they also have the powers to do the same.

 

[Weatherman2020]

 

[Weatherman2020]

 

[ptbw forever]

I agree, Europe is a hotbed for radical Islam.

 

[g5000]

The United States participates in a mutual Visa Waiver Program with 38 countries. This allows US citizens to travel to those countries without a visa, and vice versa.

Visa Waiver Program | Homeland Security

The 38 countries are Andorra, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brunei, Chile, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Malta, Monaco, Nauru, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Papua New Guinea, Portugal, San Marino, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, and the United Kingdom.

Obama removed Iraq, Syria, Iran, and Sudan from the Visa Waiver Program. Anyone traveling to the US from those countries is required to get a visa, along with the other 154 countries not in the Visa Waiver Program.


The reason the terrorists have had such successes in Europe is because Europe is a multiple of nations with varying levels of control over the movements of their populations. Their borders are basically wide open.

Three of the terrorists who would later carry out the Paris attacks were able to cross over the Austrian-Hungarian border without being caught, even though all were known extremists, and one was wanted on a terrorism warrant while another was on an EU watch list, because that border station was not tapped into either list.

Since we are one nation, all US border control points are tapped into the watch lists. The US also uses Passenger Name Records (PNR). This is travel information collected and collated by every airline for every passenger who travels in, out, and around the US. It is a crucial method by which our police state tracks our movements.

Believe it or not, Europe is more hyped about protecting the privacy of its citizens than the US. Because Hitler. No, really. Because Hitler. So they don't have PNRs. But their thinking on this is changing due to the Paris and Brussels attacks.

So the European continent is a wide open playing field for terrorists. They can move about completely undetected, and they know this.

Thus, US intelligence is a casting a wary eye at the Visa Waiver Program. If terrorists can easily penetrate Europe using fake papers, the Visa Waiver Program is one more lowered barrier to jumping here.

 

[g5000]

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You parroting tards act as if Trump would have been stymied in his Muslim ban if Obama had not taken four of those seven countries off the Visa Waiver Program.

Just how deep does your tard go?

Obama did not ban travel from those countries. He merely removed them from the Visa Waiver Program.

I doubt this will penetrate your previously demonstrated thick skull so much as a nanometer.

 

[2aguy]

In his usual narcissistic macho style. Trump has tried to fulfill one of his campaign promises that was dumb then as it is now that he is president (basically, many of us had hoped that Trump would grow up after his campaign, but we're disappointed that he is still a spoiled child as president.)

Anyway, Trump travel ban is ...well, stupid......If we look at terrorists in France, Germany, Belgium, etc., we would see that those bastards were either citizens or actually BORN in those countries......Ergo, following Trump's inanity, we should ban citizens of those countries, No????

Couple the above with the fact that Saudi Arabia (home of 15 of the 9-11 bastards) is not part of the ban, and the fact that ISIS is sending "thank you" notes to Trump for helping ISIS in recruiting more jihadists.....and you too would conclude that Trump has committed our country in yet another....fuck up.

They are the sons and daughters of immigrants....moron. just like the killers here......

There are 7 countries with huge terrorist problems.....where terrorists organize, train, raise money and spread out to kill westerners.....obama put the list together........there are 50 muslim countries in the world.....the largest aren't even on the list.

It is amazing...resisting isis....makes more people join isis......funny that attacking the United States isn't held in the same equation...........

 

[g5000]

Let me show you tards once and for all how stupid your claim is that Obama opened the door to Trump's Muslim ban.

There are 196 countries in the world. 42 of them were part of the Visa Waiver Program.

That means 154 countries were not part of the Visa Waiver Program.

President Obama removed four countries from the Visa Waiver Program. That means there are now 158 countries not on the Visa Waiver Program.

The Visa Waiver Program did not originate with President Obama. It originated in 1986, under President Ronald Reagan.

Trump picked SEVEN out of the 158 countries not on the Visa Waiver Program and banned all travel to the US from those countries. He did not say they needed visas. He said they simply cannot come here. He BANNED them.

It had NOTHING to do with Obama.

 

[g5000]

If terrorists do begin exploiting the VWP, and begin penetrating the US and carrying out attacks, then the sensible thing at that time would be to remove the countries from which they traveled to get here from the VWP.

However, visa applications are not our only tool in the tool box for catching terrorists in our nets. That's why they have not had as much success here as in Europe since 9/11. The bulk of attacks here have been lone wolf losers who watch ISIS videos online. Not actual ISIS soldiers sent here.

 

[Weatherman2020]

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You parroting tards act as if Trump would have been stymied in his Muslim ban if Obama had not taken four of those seven countries off the Visa Waiver Program.

Just how deep does your tard go?

Obama did not ban travel from those countries. He merely removed them from the Visa Waiver Program.

I doubt this will penetrate your previously demonstrated thick skull so much as a nanometer.

 

[Weatherman2020]

If terrorists do begin exploiting the VWP, and begin penetrating the US and carrying out attacks, then the sensible thing at that time would be to remove the countries from which they traveled to get here from the VWP.

However, visa applications are not our only tool in the tool box for catching terrorists in our nets. That's why they have not had as much success here as in Europe since 9/11. The bulk of attacks here have been lone wolf losers who watch ISIS videos online. Not actual ISIS soldiers sent here.

Those nations have already banned me, a US citizen from entering.

Glad we finally have a President looking out for me.

 

[g5000]

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You parroting tards act as if Trump would have been stymied in his Muslim ban if Obama had not taken four of those seven countries off the Visa Waiver Program.

Just how deep does your tard go?

Obama did not ban travel from those countries. He merely removed them from the Visa Waiver Program.

I doubt this will penetrate your previously demonstrated thick skull so much as a nanometer.

I appreciate you demonstrating how deep your tard goes by posting a video which has NOTHING to do with the VWP or terrorists.