Trump tearing apart national parks

[OnePercenter]

President Trump returned the land obama stole, back to the state of Utah. That’s a huge win for every American.

Obama stole? Do you want to clarify your position?

Obama decided their land should be under the control of the federal government.
President Trump stepped in and said fuck that! That land belongs to the people of Utah.

Clear enough?

Federal land in Utah has been under the control of the feds for many decades. For instance, Zion National Park was established in 1909.

 

[OnePercenter]

The federal government claims ownership of nearly 64% of the land in Utah. In a contiguous group of eleven western states, the federal government claims ownership of nearly half of the land in those states. There is no good reason why the federal government should be allowed to claim so much of the land that ought to belong to the state or to the people in those states.

The Massive (and Empty) Federal Lands of the American West
Federal land ownership by state - Ballotpedia

Does the State of Utah have finances to support the land in question?

Doesn't federal land belong to the people of Utah?

Does the State of Utah have finances to support the land in question?

Do the Feds? How's their stewardship been over the last century?

Does the State of Utah have finances to support the land in question? The answer is NO.

 

[ABikerSailor]

The federal government claims ownership of nearly 64% of the land in Utah. In a contiguous group of eleven western states, the federal government claims ownership of nearly half of the land in those states. There is no good reason why the federal government should be allowed to claim so much of the land that ought to belong to the state or to the people in those states.

The Massive (and Empty) Federal Lands of the American West
Federal land ownership by state - Ballotpedia

Does the State of Utah have finances to support the land in question?

Doesn't federal land belong to the people of Utah?

Does the State of Utah have finances to support the land in question?

Do the Feds? How's their stewardship been over the last century?

Does the State of Utah have finances to support the land in question? The answer is NO.

They will have the finances to support the land in question when they sell out to the oil and gas companies.

 

[fncceo]

Does the State of Utah have finances to support the land in question? The answer is NO.

Then sell it.

 

[OnePercenter]

Leaked maps reveal Trump's plan to slash national parks by 1m acres | Metro News

Donald Trump slashes size of national parks in Utah to allow drilling
Opinion: National parks under attack by Trump administration - Citrus College Clarion

President Trump Declares Major Reduction of Bears Ears Monument

I think this is caused by some illegal activity, either Trump getting paid by corporations for this, or illegally investing when his companies should be in a blind trust.

Either way, there has never been a president which has removed so much land from federal protection as he would like to.

We now have a president who understands the importance of states rights.

No. We have a President that wants to pay for tax cuts for the rich. Jokes on him; I haven't paid federal income tax for 20 years, and I did it legally!

When your trust pays a higher rate than you would have as an individual, are we supposed to be impressed?

No, the corporate trust pays 3% of total revenue to the feds. No State tax (Nevada)

 

[tycho1572]

The federal government claims ownership of nearly 64% of the land in Utah. In a contiguous group of eleven western states, the federal government claims ownership of nearly half of the land in those states. There is no good reason why the federal government should be allowed to claim so much of the land that ought to belong to the state or to the people in those states.

The Massive (and Empty) Federal Lands of the American West
Federal land ownership by state - Ballotpedia

Does the State of Utah have finances to support the land in question?

Doesn't federal land belong to the people of Utah?

Does the State of Utah have finances to support the land in question?

Do the Feds? How's their stewardship been over the last century?

Does the State of Utah have finances to support the land in question? The answer is NO.

Wtf are you talking about? lol

 

[OnePercenter]

Does the State of Utah have finances to support the land in question? The answer is NO.

Then sell it.

Sell it to whom?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Does the State of Utah have finances to support the land in question? The answer is NO.

I don't see how that can reliably be assumed to be true, nor why it is even relevant. This is land which rightfully ought to belong to the state of Utah, or to individual residents of Utah. Does the federal government have the power to seize property, either from states or individuals, on the basis that the owner of that property is alleged not to have the finances to support it? Where is this power enumerated, in the Constitution?

If Utah doesn't have the finances to support all of the land that it rightfully owns, then the correct remedy is for it to sell that land. Let people build houses, and stores, and other facilities; let people live on that land, and work on that land. Let the land be used in the way that maximizes its value to humanity.

There is no good reason,and no legitimate reason, for the federal government to be hoarding for itself, such large amounts of valuable property, and preventing that property from being put to good use; and certainly no excuse for the federal government to not even offer just compensation to those from whom this property was stolen.

 

[fncceo]

Does the State of Utah have finances to support the land in question? The answer is NO.

Then sell it.

Sell it to whom?

It's land ... you think there would be no one interested in buying? Once sold, the state government would be absolved of responsibility for any upkeep.

 

[tycho1572]

Holy shit! I feel like I’ve just entered the twilight zone. lol

 

[MindWars]

You should learn who really owns ALL YOUR LAND your HOMES included and why the UN makes some of you leftards and rightards feel living in a matchbox is so great and grand LMFAO.

UN Agenda 21/Sustainable Development is the action plan implemented worldwide to inventory and control all land, all water, all minerals, all plants, all animals, all construction, all means of production, all energy, all education, all information, and all human beings in the world. INVENTORY AND CONTROL.----Rosa Koire

DEMOCRATS  AGAINST  U. N.  AGENDA  21

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, the oil and gas companies are already drooling about the possibility of drilling in the Escalante area.

 

[tycho1572]

You know, the oil and gas companies are already drooling about the possibility of drilling in the Escalante area.

Good!

More jobs, cheaper fuel, stronger economy. I’m good with that.

 

[OnePercenter]

Here’s an example of the BS some people experienced under the obama admin....

Why does a person who lives upstream have a right to damn and deprive you of your stream?

 

[OnePercenter]

You know, the oil and gas companies are already drooling about the possibility of drilling in the Escalante area.

Good!

More jobs, cheaper fuel, stronger economy. I’m good with that.

Why would you have additional oil drilling when we have a glut of oil, gasoline, and natural gas?

 

[tycho1572]

Here’s an example of the BS some people experienced under the obama admin....

Why does a person who lives upstream have a right to damn and deprive you of your stream?

You’re either drunk or stupid. I’m gonna be nice and say you’re drunk.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Here’s an example of the BS some people experienced under the obama admin....

Why does a person who lives upstream have a right to damn and deprive you of your stream?

Water wars are a very real example of why "trickle down" never works.

 

[OnePercenter]

Here’s an example of the BS some people experienced under the obama admin....

Why does a person who lives upstream have a right to damn and deprive you of your stream?

You’re either drunk or stupid. I’m gonna be nice and say you’re drunk.

Why don't you answer the question?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Leaked maps reveal Trump's plan to slash national parks by 1m acres | Metro News

Donald Trump slashes size of national parks in Utah to allow drilling
Opinion: National parks under attack by Trump administration - Citrus College Clarion

President Trump Declares Major Reduction of Bears Ears Monument

I think this is caused by some illegal activity, either Trump getting paid by corporations for this, or illegally investing when his companies should be in a blind trust.

Either way, there has never been a president which has removed so much land from federal protection as he would like to.

We now have a president who understands the importance of states rights.

No. We have a President that wants to pay for tax cuts for the rich. Jokes on him; I haven't paid federal income tax for 20 years, and I did it legally!

When your trust pays a higher rate than you would have as an individual, are we supposed to be impressed?

No, the corporate trust pays 3% of total revenue to the feds. No State tax (Nevada)

No, the corporate trust pays 3% of total revenue to the feds.

Interesting. Irrelevant.
What percentage does it pay on income?

 

[basquebromance]

Trump scaled back two state monuments created by Obama in Utah. Wow, Trump is literally reversing everything Obama has done. Trump is taking an eraser to the “legacy” of Barack Obama and in this case giving land back to the people. As a Trump supporter, this is what I want.