Trump Testifies Nov 6th Addition

[okfine]

From Michael Cohen...

"How much money is the state going to fine him as a direct result of the actions that he took with those statements of financial condition?" Cohen said. "We know that it is a baseline. The bottom number is $250 million. Mind you, that doesn't even begin to touch the additional disgorgement that they're going to be looking for, nor does it take into consideration the fines and the penalties associated with this type of a case. So, I suspect it's going to be substantially more than the $250 million. In fact, I've been so bold as to make a prediction that it'll be between $600 and $700 million."

"Mind you, he does not have that in equity," he added. "So when these assets get sold — remember, he is low-basis in most if not all of these assets — take the tax implications and then subtract from that the outstanding mortgages that may exist. Technically, there's nothing left."

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[WEATHER53]

No, I don't think that is the case here.
I am monitoring Maggie Haberman's feeds from the courtroom.

And what I can gather is the judge is indeed 'directing'...and 'controlling'....what Don Trump wants to say.
He is directing and controlling to: the relevant topic; the question asked; this issue at hand.

It's what judges....competent experienced judges do. I'm pretty sure.
Keep the line of questions appropriate, and the line of responses appropriate to the trial issue.

Now I ain't a judge, or even a lawyer....but, am pretty sure judges want to keep the attention of the court focused on the alleged infraction, the evidence for it, and the defense's response. Defendants....in civil or criminal trials....don't get to expound on whatever topic they find interesting at the moment.

I'm OK with that. Seems common sense. I'm confident that all of the posters on this venue see and understand the usefulness of such focus by court personnel.

Judges do not try to frame the method and manner of speech and word choice from a person presenting his defense.

 

[WEATHER53]

100% wrong. Completely made up nonsense. Witnesses must answer the questions and cannot speechify. The orange slob does not get special treatment.

It’s the USA and not Gestspo

 

[postman]

According to the judge who actually is wrong on how property is valued? Is that what you believe is facts?

The judge may not know how to value property, but he knows two sets of books when he sees them.

 

[WEATHER53]

We know lib loons feel strongly that Trumps efforts to defend himself should not be allowed. Judge has said as much

 

[WEATHER53]

The judge may not know how to value property, but he knows two sets of books when he sees them.

So an accountant, auditor and real estate expert also.

 

[postman]

Judges do not try to frame the method and manner of speech and word choice from a person presenting his defense.

The defense witness gets to pick the words, but he doesn't get to pick the subject.

If the question was X, talking about Y and Z, just wastes the courts time, and will be stricken as unresponsive.

 

[postman]

We know lib loons feel strongly that Trumps efforts to defend himself should not be allowed. Judge has said as much

Everybody knows how Trump answers a question.
If you ask him about his property values, he launches into a tirade about "crooked Hillary"

 

[Winco]

Condo size!!!
You gottem now! It’s true! You really really do!

Yup, downplay it all you want.
Trump sets the narrative of "I'm gonna Lie" about factual numbers which are NOT debatable.
Keep Lying dotard donnie.

We know lib loons feel strongly that Trumps efforts to defend himself should not be allowed. Judge has said as much

Yes, please defend yourself dotard donnie.
Do it while under oath.
Keep talking, what could go wrong? LOLLOOLLOLLL

 

[Arlette]

Trump can't keep up

 

[postman]

So an accountant, auditor and real estate expert also.

You don't need a cartographer or a surveyor to measure the size of an apartment. And the judge pointed out, that Trumps square footage figure was inflated 200%.

 

[WEATHER53]

So an accountant, auditor and real estate expert also.

No mortal possesses such powers. The unholy spell caster in this witch hunt Is The Judge!

 

[WEATHER53]

You don't need a cartographer or a surveyor to measure the size of an apartment. And the judge pointed out, that Trumps square footage figure was inflated 200%.

And this has to do with what.
The banks did not use it for any loan processing
You all are ignorant of the business processes which ruffled your feathers and you created this bogus “illegality” over it.

 

[StoneCold]

LOL Like the "fact" that Ma-a-Lago is worth $18M? Too funny

That was POS45's value, for tax and insurance purposes. The county appraised the "historic" property slightly higher.
You could look it up before proclaiming it a lie.

 

[Rawley]

That was POS45's value, for tax and insurance purposes. The county appraised the "historic" property slightly higher.

Nope. It was the county's assessment. Adopted by Judge numbnutz as a fact.

You could look it up before proclaiming it a lie.

Backatcha

 

[Rogue AI]

That's NOT a fact, c'mon, you know better, I thought.

Value is up to interpretation.
Condo Size is a FACT.

Unless it's Trump’s interpretation, then it's a crime. Clown show.

 

[Winco]

Nope. It was the county's assessment. Adopted by Judge numbnutz as a fact.

Backatcha

What is your interpretation of "Adopted by the Judge"

 

[Lastamender]

And what does that mean? Are you going to go after American Jews?

That is your job.

 

[Rawley]

What is your interpretation of "Adopted by the Judge"

He threw out Trump's expert witness' valuation and adopted the TDS prosecutor's valuation from the County Assessor's office.

And then compared his adopted $18M valuation to the valuation from Trump's financial statements and held that it was a fraudulent "overvaluation of at least 2,300%"

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The value of a piece of property is still subjective.

Who gave Mar-a-Lago a 'value' of $18 M ?....... certainly NOT a Judge.

The county tax accessor.

I hope they change it to the 1 billon Trump said it was worth.