Trump told Saudis: Cut oil supply or lose U.S. military support

Wow, more aid to Putin's Russia from President Trump. It seems he's more interested in protecting Putin than all of the American Citizens.

WASHINGTON/LONDON/DUBAI (Reuters) - As the United States pressed Saudi Arabia to end its oil price war with Russia, President Donald Trump gave Saudi leaders an ultimatum.

In an April 2 phone call, Trump told Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman that unless the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) started cutting oil production, he would be powerless to stop lawmakers from passing legislation to withdraw U.S. troops from the kingdom, four sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.


The threat to upend a 75-year strategic alliance, which has not been previously reported, was central to the U.S. pressure campaign that led to a landmark global deal to slash oil supply as demand collapsed in the coronavirus pandemic - scoring a diplomatic victory for the White House.


Oil production is hurting Russia, U.S. and all of the World Oil Producers, so this is just not about Russia...

When our own oil was trading in the negative region then yes a conversation must be made...
True. Our oil and gas industry is about 8 % of GDP while Russia's is slightly more - 16 %.
 
Once you realized that you made a mistake you immediately made a pivot to the Ukraine. We see what you did,
 
Wow, more aid to Putin's Russia from President Trump. It seems he's more interested in protecting Putin than all of the American Citizens.

WASHINGTON/LONDON/DUBAI (Reuters) - As the United States pressed Saudi Arabia to end its oil price war with Russia, President Donald Trump gave Saudi leaders an ultimatum.

In an April 2 phone call, Trump told Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman that unless the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) started cutting oil production, he would be powerless to stop lawmakers from passing legislation to withdraw U.S. troops from the kingdom, four sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.

The threat to upend a 75-year strategic alliance, which has not been previously reported, was central to the U.S. pressure campaign that led to a landmark global deal to slash oil supply as demand collapsed in the coronavirus pandemic - scoring a diplomatic victory for the White House.

Why is that bad
 
This is a really stupid Trump complaint du jour, The cause of the world wide collapse in oil prices is the oil war between Russia and Saudi Arabia. Trump is simply brilliant in addressing this vital world wide issue when the enemy democrats are trying to instigate civil war at home.
The skidmarkPINO is trying to keep gasoline prices in the US high. That hurts YOU!
 
Wow, more aid to Putin's Russia from President Trump. It seems he's more interested in protecting Putin than all of the American Citizens.

WASHINGTON/LONDON/DUBAI (Reuters) - As the United States pressed Saudi Arabia to end its oil price war with Russia, President Donald Trump gave Saudi leaders an ultimatum.

In an April 2 phone call, Trump told Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman that unless the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) started cutting oil production, he would be powerless to stop lawmakers from passing legislation to withdraw U.S. troops from the kingdom, four sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.


The threat to upend a 75-year strategic alliance, which has not been previously reported, was central to the U.S. pressure campaign that led to a landmark global deal to slash oil supply as demand collapsed in the coronavirus pandemic - scoring a diplomatic victory for the White House.


Oil production is hurting Russia, U.S. and all of the World Oil Producers, so this is just not about Russia...

When our own oil was trading in the negative region then yes a conversation must be made...
What's wrong with cheap gasoline?

Idiot-gram ^^^; variety missed the point.
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Yep, it began with the Republican Platform and has continued to be an issue no matter how many denials from Trump and others circle the Internet.

What's wrong with cheap gasoline?
 


I know, oil is cheap enough. THe Cold War is over and Saudi Arabia is a medieval cesspit.
Oil and gasoline are much too expensive. Regular unleaded and diesel should by caped at $0.40 per gallon over taxes.
Serious question...
What other industries are ripping us off for the sake of the Stock Holders?
All of them.....
Do you have a top 10 where the end product should be much less expensive?
 
Wow, more aid to Putin's Russia from President Trump. It seems he's more interested in protecting Putin than all of the American Citizens.

WASHINGTON/LONDON/DUBAI (Reuters) - As the United States pressed Saudi Arabia to end its oil price war with Russia, President Donald Trump gave Saudi leaders an ultimatum.

In an April 2 phone call, Trump told Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman that unless the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) started cutting oil production, he would be powerless to stop lawmakers from passing legislation to withdraw U.S. troops from the kingdom, four sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.


The threat to upend a 75-year strategic alliance, which has not been previously reported, was central to the U.S. pressure campaign that led to a landmark global deal to slash oil supply as demand collapsed in the coronavirus pandemic - scoring a diplomatic victory for the White House.


Oil production is hurting Russia, U.S. and all of the World Oil Producers, so this is just not about Russia...

When our own oil was trading in the negative region then yes a conversation must be made...
What's wrong with cheap gasoline?

Idiot-gram ^^^; variety missed the point.

I don't care, we have solar panels, an electric car and a hybrid. I also have an electric bike.

Yep, it began with the Republican Platform and has continued to be an issue no matter how many denials from Trump and others circle the Internet.

What's wrong with cheap gasoline?
 
Wow, more aid to Putin's Russia from President Trump. It seems he's more interested in protecting Putin than all of the American Citizens.

WASHINGTON/LONDON/DUBAI (Reuters) - As the United States pressed Saudi Arabia to end its oil price war with Russia, President Donald Trump gave Saudi leaders an ultimatum.

In an April 2 phone call, Trump told Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman that unless the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) started cutting oil production, he would be powerless to stop lawmakers from passing legislation to withdraw U.S. troops from the kingdom, four sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.


The threat to upend a 75-year strategic alliance, which has not been previously reported, was central to the U.S. pressure campaign that led to a landmark global deal to slash oil supply as demand collapsed in the coronavirus pandemic - scoring a diplomatic victory for the White House.


Oil production is hurting Russia, U.S. and all of the World Oil Producers, so this is just not about Russia...

When our own oil was trading in the negative region then yes a conversation must be made...
What's wrong with cheap gasoline?

Idiot-gram ^^^; variety missed the point.

I don't care, we have solar panels, an electric car and a hybrid. I also have an electric bike.

Yep, it began with the Republican Platform and has continued to be an issue no matter how many denials from Trump and others circle the Internet.

What's wrong with cheap gasoline?
An ad hominem!
I'm shocked!
Simply shocked!


Call us Doody Heads; you'll feel much better.
Eh, no you won't!
 


I know, oil is cheap enough. THe Cold War is over and Saudi Arabia is a medieval cesspit.
Oil and gasoline are much too expensive. Regular unleaded and diesel should by caped at $0.40 per gallon over taxes.
Serious question...
What other industries are ripping us off for the sake of the Stock Holders?
All of them.....
Do you have a top 10 where the end product should be much less expensive?
I'll write it again. All of them.....
 
Wow, more aid to Putin's Russia from President Trump. It seems he's more interested in protecting Putin than all of the American Citizens.

WASHINGTON/LONDON/DUBAI (Reuters) - As the United States pressed Saudi Arabia to end its oil price war with Russia, President Donald Trump gave Saudi leaders an ultimatum.

In an April 2 phone call, Trump told Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman that unless the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) started cutting oil production, he would be powerless to stop lawmakers from passing legislation to withdraw U.S. troops from the kingdom, four sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.


The threat to upend a 75-year strategic alliance, which has not been previously reported, was central to the U.S. pressure campaign that led to a landmark global deal to slash oil supply as demand collapsed in the coronavirus pandemic - scoring a diplomatic victory for the White House.


Oil production is hurting Russia, U.S. and all of the World Oil Producers, so this is just not about Russia...

When our own oil was trading in the negative region then yes a conversation must be made...
What's wrong with cheap gasoline?

Idiot-gram ^^^; variety missed the point.

I don't care, we have solar panels, an electric car and a hybrid. I also have an electric bike.

Yep, it began with the Republican Platform and has continued to be an issue no matter how many denials from Trump and others circle the Internet.

What's wrong with cheap gasoline?

???
 
The Trump Administration's switch to a “hard line” on the Saudi oil price war with Russia was totally predictable. The earlier stupidity of that “other genius” in charge of Middle East policy, Jared Kushner, was remarkable. Kushner had been told by Saudi butcher MBS in a phone conversation (which I commented on earlier) of the Saudi plans to confront Putin and initiate an oil price war if necessary, and he had not objected — assuming lower prices would be good for the U.S. and that MBS would easily scare Putin! Incredibly dumb. But nothing about all this was in any way support for Putin, whom I had predicted would probably come out on top of this fight. It was just normal Trump administration incompetence.

The U.S. oil fracking and LNG export industry is finished, unless Trump (or Biden) introduces huge tariffs or initiates a major war with Iran that closes off production in the Persian Gulf significantly. Texas Permian production and distribution would never have developed and cannot be competitive without huge cheap credits provided, and also required tremendous help from the U.S. Military-Industrial “Deep State” mafia. These are the real forces that have been responsible for, directly or indirectly, the reduction of oil production to a trickle from Iran, Venezuela, Syria, that invaded Iraq, sanctioned Nordstream2, etc. Under the slogan “Oil Independence” — a holy grail of our Security State — the U.S. started off militantly defending our oil companies’ investments in the Middle East, then with Zionist pressure adopted a policy of Balkanizing and encouraging civil war in the region, and soon may evolve into actually destroying our previous Gulf Oil Kingdom allies.
 
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The Trump Administration's switch to a “hard line” on the Saudi oil price war with Russia was totally predictable. The earlier stupidity of that “other genius” in charge of a Middle East policy, Kushner, was remarkable. Kushner had earlier been told in a phone message with MBS of Saudi Arabia of the price war plans, and he had not objected — assuming lower prices would be good for the U.S. and MBS would easily scare Putin! Incredibly dumb. But nothing about all this was in any way support for Putin, whom I had predicted would come out on top of this fight. It was just normal Trump administration incompetence.

The U.S. oil fracking and LNG export industry is finished, unless Trump (or Biden) introduces huge tariffs or initiates a major war with Iran that closes off production in the Persian Gulf significantly. Texas Permian production and distribution would never have developed and cannot be competitive without huge cheap credits provided, and also required tremendous help from the U.S. Military-Industrial “Deep State” mafia. These are the real forces that have been responsible for, directly or indirectly, the reduction of oil production to a trickle from Iran, Venezuela, Syria, that invaded Iraq, sanctioned Nordstream2, etc. Under the slogan “Oil Independence” — a holy grail of our Security State — the U.S. started off militantly defending our oil companies’ investments in the Middle East, then with Zionist pressure adopted a policy of Balkanizing and encouraging civil war in the region, and soon may evolve into actually destroying our previous Gulf Oil Kingdom allies.
If 600,000 starving Jews can influence US policy, I'm all in.
Who do I call?

Oh yeah, thanks for believing the Muslims were living in peace with each other beforehand.
You should change you username to Tom Pain.
 
Wow, more aid to Putin's Russia from President Trump. It seems he's more interested in protecting Putin than all of the American Citizens.

WASHINGTON/LONDON/DUBAI (Reuters) - As the United States pressed Saudi Arabia to end its oil price war with Russia, President Donald Trump gave Saudi leaders an ultimatum.

In an April 2 phone call, Trump told Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman that unless the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) started cutting oil production, he would be powerless to stop lawmakers from passing legislation to withdraw U.S. troops from the kingdom, four sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.


The threat to upend a 75-year strategic alliance, which has not been previously reported, was central to the U.S. pressure campaign that led to a landmark global deal to slash oil supply as demand collapsed in the coronavirus pandemic - scoring a diplomatic victory for the White House.


You idiot..... It's the American oil execs bringing the pressure.

Jo
 


I know, oil is cheap enough. THe Cold War is over and Saudi Arabia is a medieval cesspit.
Oil and gasoline are much too expensive. Regular unleaded and diesel should by caped at $0.40 per gallon over taxes.
Serious question...
What other industries are ripping us off for the sake of the Stock Holders?
All of them.....
Do you have a top 10 where the end product should be much less expensive?
Wow, more aid to Putin's Russia from President Trump. It seems he's more interested in protecting Putin than all of the American Citizens.

WASHINGTON/LONDON/DUBAI (Reuters) - As the United States pressed Saudi Arabia to end its oil price war with Russia, President Donald Trump gave Saudi leaders an ultimatum.

In an April 2 phone call, Trump told Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman that unless the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) started cutting oil production, he would be powerless to stop lawmakers from passing legislation to withdraw U.S. troops from the kingdom, four sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.


The threat to upend a 75-year strategic alliance, which has not been previously reported, was central to the U.S. pressure campaign that led to a landmark global deal to slash oil supply as demand collapsed in the coronavirus pandemic - scoring a diplomatic victory for the White House.


You idiot..... It's the American oil execs bringing the pressure.

Jo

You have evidence, if so, it is possible Oil Execs are not patriots, since oil is a global economic issue and not all CEO's put America before their stock prices.
 


I know, oil is cheap enough. THe Cold War is over and Saudi Arabia is a medieval cesspit.
Oil and gasoline are much too expensive. Regular unleaded and diesel should by caped at $0.40 per gallon over taxes.
Serious question...
What other industries are ripping us off for the sake of the Stock Holders?
All of them.....
Do you have a top 10 where the end product should be much less expensive?
Wow, more aid to Putin's Russia from President Trump. It seems he's more interested in protecting Putin than all of the American Citizens.

WASHINGTON/LONDON/DUBAI (Reuters) - As the United States pressed Saudi Arabia to end its oil price war with Russia, President Donald Trump gave Saudi leaders an ultimatum.

In an April 2 phone call, Trump told Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman that unless the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) started cutting oil production, he would be powerless to stop lawmakers from passing legislation to withdraw U.S. troops from the kingdom, four sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.


The threat to upend a 75-year strategic alliance, which has not been previously reported, was central to the U.S. pressure campaign that led to a landmark global deal to slash oil supply as demand collapsed in the coronavirus pandemic - scoring a diplomatic victory for the White House.


You idiot..... It's the American oil execs bringing the pressure.

Jo

You have evidence, if so, it is possible Oil Execs are not patriots, since oil is a global economic issue and not all CEO's put America before their stock prices.
Show us companies that survive operating in the negative for any length of time...
 
The Trump Administration's switch to a “hard line” on the Saudi oil price war with Russia was totally predictable. The earlier stupidity of that “other genius” in charge of a Middle East policy, Kushner, was remarkable. Kushner had earlier been told in a phone message with MBS of Saudi Arabia of the price war plans, and he had not objected — assuming lower prices would be good for the U.S. and MBS would easily scare Putin! Incredibly dumb. But nothing about all this was in any way support for Putin, whom I had predicted would come out on top of this fight. It was just normal Trump administration incompetence.

The U.S. oil fracking and LNG export industry is finished, unless Trump (or Biden) introduces huge tariffs or initiates a major war with Iran that closes off production in the Persian Gulf significantly. Texas Permian production and distribution would never have developed and cannot be competitive without huge cheap credits provided, and also required tremendous help from the U.S. Military-Industrial “Deep State” mafia. These are the real forces that have been responsible for, directly or indirectly, the reduction of oil production to a trickle from Iran, Venezuela, Syria, that invaded Iraq, sanctioned Nordstream2, etc. Under the slogan “Oil Independence” — a holy grail of our Security State — the U.S. started off militantly defending our oil companies’ investments in the Middle East, then with Zionist pressure adopted a policy of Balkanizing and encouraging civil war in the region, and soon may evolve into actually destroying our previous Gulf Oil Kingdom allies.
If 600,000 starving Jews can influence US policy, I'm all in.
Who do I call?

Oh yeah, thanks for believing the Muslims were living in peace with each other beforehand.
You should change you username to Tom Pain.
Sorry if I am a “Pain” in your butt, or otherwise pop your illusions in U.S. imperialism or Trump’s competence, or Zionist benevolence ... or whatever. I’m just explaining the “real politics” of the situation.

By the way, relations between Muslims in the Middle East, for example between Iran and Iraq, were absolutely worsened by the scheming of Western oil imperialism. Have you forgotten our support for Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Iran and the subsequent 8-year war between them?
 
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The Trump Administration's switch to a “hard line” on the Saudi oil price war with Russia was totally predictable. The earlier stupidity of that “other genius” in charge of a Middle East policy, Kushner, was remarkable. Kushner had earlier been told in a phone message with MBS of Saudi Arabia of the price war plans, and he had not objected — assuming lower prices would be good for the U.S. and MBS would easily scare Putin! Incredibly dumb. But nothing about all this was in any way support for Putin, whom I had predicted would come out on top of this fight. It was just normal Trump administration incompetence.

The U.S. oil fracking and LNG export industry is finished, unless Trump (or Biden) introduces huge tariffs or initiates a major war with Iran that closes off production in the Persian Gulf significantly. Texas Permian production and distribution would never have developed and cannot be competitive without huge cheap credits provided, and also required tremendous help from the U.S. Military-Industrial “Deep State” mafia. These are the real forces that have been responsible for, directly or indirectly, the reduction of oil production to a trickle from Iran, Venezuela, Syria, that invaded Iraq, sanctioned Nordstream2, etc. Under the slogan “Oil Independence” — a holy grail of our Security State — the U.S. started off militantly defending our oil companies’ investments in the Middle East, then with Zionist pressure adopted a policy of Balkanizing and encouraging civil war in the region, and soon may evolve into actually destroying our previous Gulf Oil Kingdom allies.
If 600,000 starving Jews can influence US policy, I'm all in.
Who do I call?

Oh yeah, thanks for believing the Muslims were living in peace with each other beforehand.
You should change you username to Tom Pain.
Sorry if I am a “Pain” in your butt, or otherwise pop your illusions in U.S. imperialism or Trump’s competence, or Zionist benevolence ... or whatever. I’m just explaining the “real politics” of the situation.

By the way, relations between Muslims in the Middle East, between Iran and Iraq too, were absolutely worsened by the meddling of British and U.S. oil imperialism. Have you forgotten our support for Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Iran and the subsequent 8-year war between them? Need I go on?
You're "explaining" Liberal, apologist, revisionist history to the point where you can't even get current events right.

And thanks for admitting that Muslims are easily manipulated by nations that were using electricity while Muslims were still shitting in holes in the the gutter.

I agree about Iran.
You see, I can actually deal with facts.
 
The Trump Administration's switch to a “hard line” on the Saudi oil price war with Russia was totally predictable. The earlier stupidity of that “other genius” in charge of Middle East policy, Jared Kushner, was remarkable. Kushner had been told by Saudi butcher MBS in a phone conversation (which I commented on earlier) of the Saudi plans to confront Putin and initiate an oil price war if necessary, and he had not objected — assuming lower prices would be good for the U.S. and that MBS would easily scare Putin! Incredibly dumb. But nothing about all this was in any way support for Putin, whom I had predicted would probably come out on top of this fight. It was just normal Trump administration incompetence.

The U.S. oil fracking and LNG export industry is finished, unless Trump (or Biden) introduces huge tariffs or initiates a major war with Iran that closes off production in the Persian Gulf significantly. Texas Permian production and distribution would never have developed and cannot be competitive without huge cheap credits provided, and also required tremendous help from the U.S. Military-Industrial “Deep State” mafia. These are the real forces that have been responsible for, directly or indirectly, the reduction of oil production to a trickle from Iran, Venezuela, Syria, that invaded Iraq, sanctioned Nordstream2, etc. Under the slogan “Oil Independence” — a holy grail of our Security State — the U.S. started off militantly defending our oil companies’ investments in the Middle East, then with Zionist pressure adopted a policy of Balkanizing and encouraging civil war in the region, and soon may evolve into actually destroying our previous Gulf Oil Kingdom allies.


The "Zionists" make the Muslims fight each other in a "civil war" between nations?


That is some excellent conspiracy theory there. Not quite up with Bigfoot or Zog, but good stuff.
 
The Trump Administration's switch to a “hard line” on the Saudi oil price war with Russia was totally predictable. The earlier stupidity of that “other genius” in charge of a Middle East policy, Kushner, was remarkable. Kushner had earlier been told in a phone message with MBS of Saudi Arabia of the price war plans, and he had not objected — assuming lower prices would be good for the U.S. and MBS would easily scare Putin! Incredibly dumb. But nothing about all this was in any way support for Putin, whom I had predicted would come out on top of this fight. It was just normal Trump administration incompetence.

The U.S. oil fracking and LNG export industry is finished, unless Trump (or Biden) introduces huge tariffs or initiates a major war with Iran that closes off production in the Persian Gulf significantly. Texas Permian production and distribution would never have developed and cannot be competitive without huge cheap credits provided, and also required tremendous help from the U.S. Military-Industrial “Deep State” mafia. These are the real forces that have been responsible for, directly or indirectly, the reduction of oil production to a trickle from Iran, Venezuela, Syria, that invaded Iraq, sanctioned Nordstream2, etc. Under the slogan “Oil Independence” — a holy grail of our Security State — the U.S. started off militantly defending our oil companies’ investments in the Middle East, then with Zionist pressure adopted a policy of Balkanizing and encouraging civil war in the region, and soon may evolve into actually destroying our previous Gulf Oil Kingdom allies.
If 600,000 starving Jews can influence US policy, I'm all in.
Who do I call?

Oh yeah, thanks for believing the Muslims were living in peace with each other beforehand.
You should change you username to Tom Pain.
Sorry if I am a “Pain” in your butt, or otherwise pop your illusions in U.S. imperialism or Trump’s competence, or Zionist benevolence ... or whatever. I’m just explaining the “real politics” of the situation.

By the way, relations between Muslims in the Middle East, between Iran and Iraq too, were absolutely worsened by the meddling of British and U.S. oil imperialism. Have you forgotten our support for Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Iran and the subsequent 8-year war between them? Need I go on?



US oil imperialism? Support for the Invasion of Iran? LOL!!!

Our influence in the region is greatly exaggerated.
 

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