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The tactic these guys are running with is to either (a) deny what's happening is having an effect on anything, or (b) deny what's happening is even happening.I'm sure it's someone else's fault.When one side is 90% of the problem and the other is 10% I can always count on you to charge in and blame both equally.You seem to have forgot some democrat votes were needed to pass the budget. And those same democrats are the ones that shut the government down because they didn’t get the money they wanted to spend.
And this is why we have a 23 trillion dollar deficit. The party loyalist will never, ever blame their own party, it is always the other side's fault. This has been going on for decades and you sheep have not figured it out yet.
If only that were true. But it is not. Neither side spends more than the other, the only way they might differ on is what it should be spent on.
Your god sitting the the White House submitted the largest budget request in history, by almost a trillion dollars. But he is not the problem...![]()
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It always is with the partisan sheep.
The tactic these guys are running with is to either (a) deny what's happening is having an effect on anything, or (b) deny what's happening is even happening.I'm sure it's someone else's fault.When one side is 90% of the problem and the other is 10% I can always count on you to charge in and blame both equally.And this is why we have a 23 trillion dollar deficit. The party loyalist will never, ever blame their own party, it is always the other side's fault. This has been going on for decades and you sheep have not figured it out yet.
If only that were true. But it is not. Neither side spends more than the other, the only way they might differ on is what it should be spent on.
Your god sitting the the White House submitted the largest budget request in history, by almost a trillion dollars. But he is not the problem...![]()
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It always is with the partisan sheep.
Which, you have to admit, is pretty funny.
Who knows whether they're lying, or ignorant, or both.
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That tiny blip at the end, is what is the "QE4".
Do you understand now, why you are being dishonest?
Should we call the reduction which was bigger in the balance sheet "the big taper". Funny, I never heard Mac talk about that - and yet the economy grew!
The big taper was under Trump by the way.
These guys aren't even allowed to admit THAT.
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That tiny blip at the end, is what is the "QE4".
Do you understand now, why you are being dishonest?
Should we call the reduction which was bigger in the balance sheet "the big taper". Funny, I never heard Mac talk about that - and yet the economy grew!
The big taper was under Trump by the way.
It is not that tiny and it is still growing.
The irony here is that the Fed lowered their balance sheet because it was assumed the economy was on stable ground...what a joke that turned out to be.
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That tiny blip at the end, is what is the "QE4".
Do you understand now, why you are being dishonest?
Should we call the reduction which was bigger in the balance sheet "the big taper". Funny, I never heard Mac talk about that - and yet the economy grew!
The big taper was under Trump by the way.
It is not that tiny and it is still growing.
The irony here is that the Fed lowered their balance sheet because it was assumed the economy was on stable ground...what a joke that turned out to be.
Hold on, let's check this:I know this thread will degenerate quickly into platitudes, talking points and insults, but what the hell.
Right now the economy is in good shape. Friday's employment & hiring figures were freakin' outstanding to say the least, and there's a good chance we'll keep purring along for the foreseeable future. And that's not something you can always say. So, that's some pretty damn good stuff.
While this is happening, Trump and his supporters are predictably crowing and very proud. Yeah, I can see that, and it's certainly amplified by the current partisan political environment. Yeah, I get that too.
The three largest factors -- and even the slightest internet research will confirm this -- driving this expansion are (1) the aggressive tax cuts, (2) the aggressive increase in government spending, and (3) the Fed pouring HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS into markets to grease the system...
In this Great Nation we don't have a small group of elitists with luxury beliefs controlling everything so that they can signal virtue their status to other members of their cliche.... Then, on top of that will be the increase in confidence and positivity with both consumers and businesses. Icing on the cake, good stuff, let's go.
So perhaps Trump supporters can explain why they're so against socialism. Two of the largest three contributing stimulative factors -- massive government spending and the Fed's actions -- would have been considered terrible just four years ago, yet the attacks on socialism (whatever the hell the definition is that the person is using) are only escalating.
Can someone explain this, reasonably, civilly, intelligently, and with original, independent thought?
Yes, of course receipts go up in a growing economy. While 2.1% growth is a disappointment considering what has been thrown at the economy, it's still going to increase receipts.Hold on, let's check this:I know this thread will degenerate quickly into platitudes, talking points and insults, but what the hell.
Right now the economy is in good shape. Friday's employment & hiring figures were freakin' outstanding to say the least, and there's a good chance we'll keep purring along for the foreseeable future. And that's not something you can always say. So, that's some pretty damn good stuff.
While this is happening, Trump and his supporters are predictably crowing and very proud. Yeah, I can see that, and it's certainly amplified by the current partisan political environment. Yeah, I get that too.
The three largest factors -- and even the slightest internet research will confirm this -- driving this expansion are (1) the aggressive tax cuts, (2) the aggressive increase in government spending, and (3) the Fed pouring HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS into markets to grease the system...
![]()
Well, well, well! It looks like Federal receipts went UP not down and that Fed total assets went DOWN not up!
In this Great Nation we don't have a small group of elitists with luxury beliefs controlling everything so that they can signal virtue their status to other members of their cliche.... Then, on top of that will be the increase in confidence and positivity with both consumers and businesses. Icing on the cake, good stuff, let's go.
So perhaps Trump supporters can explain why they're so against socialism. Two of the largest three contributing stimulative factors -- massive government spending and the Fed's actions -- would have been considered terrible just four years ago, yet the attacks on socialism (whatever the hell the definition is that the person is using) are only escalating.
Can someone explain this, reasonably, civilly, intelligently, and with original, independent thought?
Here WE THE PEOPLE rule with those we select to represent us, merely our "trusted servants" and believe me, we will never entrust these crooks with the vast power you suggest.
Yes, of course receipts go up in a growing economy. While 2.1% growth is a disappointment considering what has been thrown at the economy, it's still going to increase receipts.Hold on, let's check this:I know this thread will degenerate quickly into platitudes, talking points and insults, but what the hell.
Right now the economy is in good shape. Friday's employment & hiring figures were freakin' outstanding to say the least, and there's a good chance we'll keep purring along for the foreseeable future. And that's not something you can always say. So, that's some pretty damn good stuff.
While this is happening, Trump and his supporters are predictably crowing and very proud. Yeah, I can see that, and it's certainly amplified by the current partisan political environment. Yeah, I get that too.
The three largest factors -- and even the slightest internet research will confirm this -- driving this expansion are (1) the aggressive tax cuts, (2) the aggressive increase in government spending, and (3) the Fed pouring HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS into markets to grease the system...
![]()
Well, well, well! It looks like Federal receipts went UP not down and that Fed total assets went DOWN not up!
In this Great Nation we don't have a small group of elitists with luxury beliefs controlling everything so that they can signal virtue their status to other members of their cliche.... Then, on top of that will be the increase in confidence and positivity with both consumers and businesses. Icing on the cake, good stuff, let's go.
So perhaps Trump supporters can explain why they're so against socialism. Two of the largest three contributing stimulative factors -- massive government spending and the Fed's actions -- would have been considered terrible just four years ago, yet the attacks on socialism (whatever the hell the definition is that the person is using) are only escalating.
Can someone explain this, reasonably, civilly, intelligently, and with original, independent thought?
Here WE THE PEOPLE rule with those we select to represent us, merely our "trusted servants" and believe me, we will never entrust these crooks with the vast power you suggest.
And the Fed balance sheet has already increased by more than $100 billion, as I have documented, several times. In fact, another chart provided by a Trumpster shows it.
I just wish you guys would acknowledge the "socialism" that has played a role in this, but it doesn't look like you know about it.
Not my problem.
.
Aggressive spending increases and aggressive Fed intervention are.Yes, of course receipts go up in a growing economy. While 2.1% growth is a disappointment considering what has been thrown at the economy, it's still going to increase receipts.Hold on, let's check this:I know this thread will degenerate quickly into platitudes, talking points and insults, but what the hell.
Right now the economy is in good shape. Friday's employment & hiring figures were freakin' outstanding to say the least, and there's a good chance we'll keep purring along for the foreseeable future. And that's not something you can always say. So, that's some pretty damn good stuff.
While this is happening, Trump and his supporters are predictably crowing and very proud. Yeah, I can see that, and it's certainly amplified by the current partisan political environment. Yeah, I get that too.
The three largest factors -- and even the slightest internet research will confirm this -- driving this expansion are (1) the aggressive tax cuts, (2) the aggressive increase in government spending, and (3) the Fed pouring HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS into markets to grease the system...
![]()
Well, well, well! It looks like Federal receipts went UP not down and that Fed total assets went DOWN not up!
In this Great Nation we don't have a small group of elitists with luxury beliefs controlling everything so that they can signal virtue their status to other members of their cliche.... Then, on top of that will be the increase in confidence and positivity with both consumers and businesses. Icing on the cake, good stuff, let's go.
So perhaps Trump supporters can explain why they're so against socialism. Two of the largest three contributing stimulative factors -- massive government spending and the Fed's actions -- would have been considered terrible just four years ago, yet the attacks on socialism (whatever the hell the definition is that the person is using) are only escalating.
Can someone explain this, reasonably, civilly, intelligently, and with original, independent thought?
Here WE THE PEOPLE rule with those we select to represent us, merely our "trusted servants" and believe me, we will never entrust these crooks with the vast power you suggest.
And the Fed balance sheet has already increased by more than $100 billion, as I have documented, several times. In fact, another chart provided by a Trumpster shows it.
I just wish you guys would acknowledge the "socialism" that has played a role in this, but it doesn't look like you know about it.
Not my problem.
.
Government deficit is not socialism. Tax cuts are the opposite of socialism.
Having a modern monetary system is not really socialism either. But your story does not even add up here so...
Aggressive spending increases and aggressive Fed intervention are.Yes, of course receipts go up in a growing economy. While 2.1% growth is a disappointment considering what has been thrown at the economy, it's still going to increase receipts.Hold on, let's check this:I know this thread will degenerate quickly into platitudes, talking points and insults, but what the hell.
Right now the economy is in good shape. Friday's employment & hiring figures were freakin' outstanding to say the least, and there's a good chance we'll keep purring along for the foreseeable future. And that's not something you can always say. So, that's some pretty damn good stuff.
While this is happening, Trump and his supporters are predictably crowing and very proud. Yeah, I can see that, and it's certainly amplified by the current partisan political environment. Yeah, I get that too.
The three largest factors -- and even the slightest internet research will confirm this -- driving this expansion are (1) the aggressive tax cuts, (2) the aggressive increase in government spending, and (3) the Fed pouring HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS into markets to grease the system...
![]()
Well, well, well! It looks like Federal receipts went UP not down and that Fed total assets went DOWN not up!
In this Great Nation we don't have a small group of elitists with luxury beliefs controlling everything so that they can signal virtue their status to other members of their cliche.... Then, on top of that will be the increase in confidence and positivity with both consumers and businesses. Icing on the cake, good stuff, let's go.
So perhaps Trump supporters can explain why they're so against socialism. Two of the largest three contributing stimulative factors -- massive government spending and the Fed's actions -- would have been considered terrible just four years ago, yet the attacks on socialism (whatever the hell the definition is that the person is using) are only escalating.
Can someone explain this, reasonably, civilly, intelligently, and with original, independent thought?
Here WE THE PEOPLE rule with those we select to represent us, merely our "trusted servants" and believe me, we will never entrust these crooks with the vast power you suggest.
And the Fed balance sheet has already increased by more than $100 billion, as I have documented, several times. In fact, another chart provided by a Trumpster shows it.
I just wish you guys would acknowledge the "socialism" that has played a role in this, but it doesn't look like you know about it.
Not my problem.
.
Government deficit is not socialism. Tax cuts are the opposite of socialism.
Having a modern monetary system is not really socialism either. But your story does not even add up here so...
But I know, in your mind, that didn't happen.
.
Is that why they went DOWN in 2016 despite the higher tax rates?Yes, of course receipts go up in a growing economy...Hold on, let's check this:I know this thread will degenerate quickly into platitudes, talking points and insults, but what the hell.
Right now the economy is in good shape. Friday's employment & hiring figures were freakin' outstanding to say the least, and there's a good chance we'll keep purring along for the foreseeable future. And that's not something you can always say. So, that's some pretty damn good stuff.
While this is happening, Trump and his supporters are predictably crowing and very proud. Yeah, I can see that, and it's certainly amplified by the current partisan political environment. Yeah, I get that too.
The three largest factors -- and even the slightest internet research will confirm this -- driving this expansion are (1) the aggressive tax cuts, (2) the aggressive increase in government spending, and (3) the Fed pouring HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS into markets to grease the system...
![]()
Well, well, well! It looks like Federal receipts went UP not down and that Fed total assets went DOWN not up!
In this Great Nation we don't have a small group of elitists with luxury beliefs controlling everything so that they can signal virtue their status to other members of their cliche.... Then, on top of that will be the increase in confidence and positivity with both consumers and businesses. Icing on the cake, good stuff, let's go.
So perhaps Trump supporters can explain why they're so against socialism. Two of the largest three contributing stimulative factors -- massive government spending and the Fed's actions -- would have been considered terrible just four years ago, yet the attacks on socialism (whatever the hell the definition is that the person is using) are only escalating.
Can someone explain this, reasonably, civilly, intelligently, and with original, independent thought?
Here WE THE PEOPLE rule with those we select to represent us, merely our "trusted servants" and believe me, we will never entrust these crooks with the vast power you suggest.
Not compared to where it was at the end of 2016 it hasn't.... And the Fed balance sheet has already increased by more than $100 billion, as I have documented, several times...
I'm amazed at your guy's attempts at validation. First you folks grandly certainly and repeatedly predicted that the Trump Economy would be an immediate and enduring disaster. And now you are trying to grab credit for it. I guess that's as sincere a compliment as we'll get from you folks.... I just wish you guys would acknowledge the "socialism" that has played a role in this, but it doesn't look like you know about it...
And you skipped over the answer to the question asked that I posted for you:... Not my problem... .
I'm just stating facts. You guys want to give Trump credit for the economy, but play games with how it happened.Aggressive spending increases and aggressive Fed intervention are.Yes, of course receipts go up in a growing economy. While 2.1% growth is a disappointment considering what has been thrown at the economy, it's still going to increase receipts.Hold on, let's check this:I know this thread will degenerate quickly into platitudes, talking points and insults, but what the hell.
Right now the economy is in good shape. Friday's employment & hiring figures were freakin' outstanding to say the least, and there's a good chance we'll keep purring along for the foreseeable future. And that's not something you can always say. So, that's some pretty damn good stuff.
While this is happening, Trump and his supporters are predictably crowing and very proud. Yeah, I can see that, and it's certainly amplified by the current partisan political environment. Yeah, I get that too.
The three largest factors -- and even the slightest internet research will confirm this -- driving this expansion are (1) the aggressive tax cuts, (2) the aggressive increase in government spending, and (3) the Fed pouring HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS into markets to grease the system...
![]()
Well, well, well! It looks like Federal receipts went UP not down and that Fed total assets went DOWN not up!
In this Great Nation we don't have a small group of elitists with luxury beliefs controlling everything so that they can signal virtue their status to other members of their cliche.... Then, on top of that will be the increase in confidence and positivity with both consumers and businesses. Icing on the cake, good stuff, let's go.
So perhaps Trump supporters can explain why they're so against socialism. Two of the largest three contributing stimulative factors -- massive government spending and the Fed's actions -- would have been considered terrible just four years ago, yet the attacks on socialism (whatever the hell the definition is that the person is using) are only escalating.
Can someone explain this, reasonably, civilly, intelligently, and with original, independent thought?
Here WE THE PEOPLE rule with those we select to represent us, merely our "trusted servants" and believe me, we will never entrust these crooks with the vast power you suggest.
And the Fed balance sheet has already increased by more than $100 billion, as I have documented, several times. In fact, another chart provided by a Trumpster shows it.
I just wish you guys would acknowledge the "socialism" that has played a role in this, but it doesn't look like you know about it.
Not my problem.
.
Government deficit is not socialism. Tax cuts are the opposite of socialism.
Having a modern monetary system is not really socialism either. But your story does not even add up here so...
But I know, in your mind, that didn't happen.
.
I do have a problem with the spending. What I don't have is TDS. Let's be honest, you would have found a other reason for why Trump's economy is not REALLY thriving.
Republicans take the house in 2020 and perhaps we can finally address the spending.
Please see the prior post, above.Is that why they went DOWN in 2016 despite the higher tax rates?Yes, of course receipts go up in a growing economy...Hold on, let's check this:I know this thread will degenerate quickly into platitudes, talking points and insults, but what the hell.
Right now the economy is in good shape. Friday's employment & hiring figures were freakin' outstanding to say the least, and there's a good chance we'll keep purring along for the foreseeable future. And that's not something you can always say. So, that's some pretty damn good stuff.
While this is happening, Trump and his supporters are predictably crowing and very proud. Yeah, I can see that, and it's certainly amplified by the current partisan political environment. Yeah, I get that too.
The three largest factors -- and even the slightest internet research will confirm this -- driving this expansion are (1) the aggressive tax cuts, (2) the aggressive increase in government spending, and (3) the Fed pouring HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS into markets to grease the system...
![]()
Well, well, well! It looks like Federal receipts went UP not down and that Fed total assets went DOWN not up!
In this Great Nation we don't have a small group of elitists with luxury beliefs controlling everything so that they can signal virtue their status to other members of their cliche.... Then, on top of that will be the increase in confidence and positivity with both consumers and businesses. Icing on the cake, good stuff, let's go.
So perhaps Trump supporters can explain why they're so against socialism. Two of the largest three contributing stimulative factors -- massive government spending and the Fed's actions -- would have been considered terrible just four years ago, yet the attacks on socialism (whatever the hell the definition is that the person is using) are only escalating.
Can someone explain this, reasonably, civilly, intelligently, and with original, independent thought?
Here WE THE PEOPLE rule with those we select to represent us, merely our "trusted servants" and believe me, we will never entrust these crooks with the vast power you suggest.
Not compared to where it was at the end of 2016 it hasn't.... And the Fed balance sheet has already increased by more than $100 billion, as I have documented, several times...
![]()
I'm amazed at your guy's attempts at validation. First you folks grandly certainly and repeatedly predicted that the Trump Economy would be an immediate and enduring disaster. And now you are trying to grab credit for it. I guess that's as sincere a compliment as well get from you folks.... I just wish you guys would acknowledge the "socialism" that has played a role in this, but it doesn't look like you know about it...
And you skipped over the answer to the question asked that I posted for you:... Not my problem... .
In this Great Nation we don't have a small group of elitists with luxury beliefs controlling everything so that they can signal virtue their status to other members of their cliche.
Here WE THE PEOPLE rule with those we select to represent us, merely our "trusted servants" and believe me, we will never entrust those crooks with the vast power you advocate.
Now, why would you skip over that, when it's the answer to the question asked?
I'm just stating facts. You guys want to give Trump credit for the economy, but play games with how it happened.Aggressive spending increases and aggressive Fed intervention are.Yes, of course receipts go up in a growing economy. While 2.1% growth is a disappointment considering what has been thrown at the economy, it's still going to increase receipts.Hold on, let's check this:
![]()
Well, well, well! It looks like Federal receipts went UP not down and that Fed total assets went DOWN not up!
In this Great Nation we don't have a small group of elitists with luxury beliefs controlling everything so that they can signal virtue their status to other members of their cliche.
Here WE THE PEOPLE rule with those we select to represent us, merely our "trusted servants" and believe me, we will never entrust these crooks with the vast power you suggest.
And the Fed balance sheet has already increased by more than $100 billion, as I have documented, several times. In fact, another chart provided by a Trumpster shows it.
I just wish you guys would acknowledge the "socialism" that has played a role in this, but it doesn't look like you know about it.
Not my problem.
.
Government deficit is not socialism. Tax cuts are the opposite of socialism.
Having a modern monetary system is not really socialism either. But your story does not even add up here so...
But I know, in your mind, that didn't happen.
.
I do have a problem with the spending. What I don't have is TDS. Let's be honest, you would have found a other reason for why Trump's economy is not REALLY thriving.
Republicans take the house in 2020 and perhaps we can finally address the spending.
I know the game. Both ends play it.
.
Great.I'm just stating facts. You guys want to give Trump credit for the economy, but play games with how it happened.Aggressive spending increases and aggressive Fed intervention are.Yes, of course receipts go up in a growing economy. While 2.1% growth is a disappointment considering what has been thrown at the economy, it's still going to increase receipts.
And the Fed balance sheet has already increased by more than $100 billion, as I have documented, several times. In fact, another chart provided by a Trumpster shows it.
I just wish you guys would acknowledge the "socialism" that has played a role in this, but it doesn't look like you know about it.
Not my problem.
.
Government deficit is not socialism. Tax cuts are the opposite of socialism.
Having a modern monetary system is not really socialism either. But your story does not even add up here so...
But I know, in your mind, that didn't happen.
.
I do have a problem with the spending. What I don't have is TDS. Let's be honest, you would have found a other reason for why Trump's economy is not REALLY thriving.
Republicans take the house in 2020 and perhaps we can finally address the spending.
I know the game. Both ends play it.
.
There is no end to the excuses you can and will generate. As you said in the other thread, it is because you have a bias against Trump. We get it... own it.
Bottom line, Trump is doing great with the economy.
Great.I'm just stating facts. You guys want to give Trump credit for the economy, but play games with how it happened.Aggressive spending increases and aggressive Fed intervention are.Government deficit is not socialism. Tax cuts are the opposite of socialism.
Having a modern monetary system is not really socialism either. But your story does not even add up here so...
But I know, in your mind, that didn't happen.
.
I do have a problem with the spending. What I don't have is TDS. Let's be honest, you would have found a other reason for why Trump's economy is not REALLY thriving.
Republicans take the house in 2020 and perhaps we can finally address the spending.
I know the game. Both ends play it.
.
There is no end to the excuses you can and will generate. As you said in the other thread, it is because you have a bias against Trump. We get it... own it.
Bottom line, Trump is doing great with the economy.
.
You're welcome to show me where I was wrong.Great.I'm just stating facts. You guys want to give Trump credit for the economy, but play games with how it happened.Aggressive spending increases and aggressive Fed intervention are.
But I know, in your mind, that didn't happen.
.
I do have a problem with the spending. What I don't have is TDS. Let's be honest, you would have found a other reason for why Trump's economy is not REALLY thriving.
Republicans take the house in 2020 and perhaps we can finally address the spending.
I know the game. Both ends play it.
.
There is no end to the excuses you can and will generate. As you said in the other thread, it is because you have a bias against Trump. We get it... own it.
Bottom line, Trump is doing great with the economy.
.
Mac, let's recall your last take...
At this moment, this Presidency is not going well
Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps you are wrong?
You're welcome to show me where I was wrong.Great.I'm just stating facts. You guys want to give Trump credit for the economy, but play games with how it happened.I do have a problem with the spending. What I don't have is TDS. Let's be honest, you would have found a other reason for why Trump's economy is not REALLY thriving.
Republicans take the house in 2020 and perhaps we can finally address the spending.
I know the game. Both ends play it.
.
There is no end to the excuses you can and will generate. As you said in the other thread, it is because you have a bias against Trump. We get it... own it.
Bottom line, Trump is doing great with the economy.
.
Mac, let's recall your last take...
At this moment, this Presidency is not going well
Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps you are wrong?
What predictions did I make?
.