Trump would be correct to assert a national emergency in order to build the wall

[K9Buck]

...what crime did Hillary commit?

LOL. What crime hasn't she committed.

You can’t even show she committed any crimes. When challenged to post the law you think she broke by sending classified material through her personal private email server, you posted a law that didn’t say that was a crime. After that embarrassment, you posted nonsense about Yahoo and Hotmail and then claimed it was a crime because the FBI investigated it.

If transmitting classified documents through a private server wasn't a crime, there wouldn't have been a need for an investigation, dumbass. You arguing that it's LEGAL is the epitome of stupidity.

 

[sawyerloggingon]

Actually i succeeded admirably in exposing you as being too uninformed to bother with. Have a nice day.

LOL

My day is just fine. Meanwhile, all you did was make baseless claims about the housing and auto industry which you then flat out refused to demonstrate was true.

oh, and now I see why you flat out refused to back your claims ... because they're bullshit...

Housing markets are at an all-time high ...

and so are auto loans/leases...

Well at least you tried. Leftist love charts and graphs because they tell an incomplete story.


US New Home Sales Unexpectedly Drop to 2-1/2-Year Low
Sales of new single-family houses in the United States slumped 8.9 percent from the previous month to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 544 thousand in October 2018, following an upwardly revised 1 percent growth in September and missing market expectations of a 3.7 percent jump. New home sales were at the lowest level since March 2016.
Published on 2018-11-28

US New Home Sales Lowest Since 2016
Sales of new single-family houses in the United States dropped 5.5 percent from the previous month to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 553 thousand in September of 2018, following a downwardly revised 3.0 percent decline in August. It is the lowest rate since December 2016, worse than market expectations of 625 thousand. Sales in the Northeast went down to its lowest level since April 2015. Also, sales decreased in the West and in the South.
Published on 2018-10-24

United States New Home Sales | 2019 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast


"So far, the slowdown in new vehicle sales is slow and gradual. Through the first two months of 2018 they have slipped a barely noticeable 0.8%.

That is about to change.

Auto loan interest rates are now at levels not seen since 2010 – an average of 5.2% in February, compared with 4.4% in February 2013, according to Edmunds.com.

That means higher monthly payments regardless of whether one is buying or leasing."

Auto Sales Are Down. Here's Why They'll Continue To Fall.

LOL

What an idiot you are, huh? Your links are about new single-family homes only. The graph I posted was for ALL home sales.

And your link about auto loans is from March 12, 2018, at which point, the Federal fund rate had increased on a whopping 0.75 points under trump. Still doesn't refute the chart I posted showing auto loans and leases are at an all time high.

"When debate is lost slander becomes the tool of the loser".

Nah, you lost the debate when I showed the housing markets and auto loans/leases are still strong.

This is just too funny not to respond to. You now try to prove your initial point that the feds raising interest rates is not the reason for the softening economy by claiming the economy is not softening and in fact housing starts and auto sales which are the leading economic indicators are strong and in fact increasing. You have tied yourself into a pretzel here.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Trump is trying to appropriate the powers that the constitution has granted to congress. He will be blocked by the courts. He knows this, but does not care, because he can blame his failure to build a wall on Congress and he courts. His own party is urging him not to try it. The precedent would open the door to the democrats to do the same thing. Congress would become impotent, and the president would become one step closer to having dictatorial authority. The exact same strategy worked for Hitler when the Reichstag burned. This is not NAZI Germany.

 

[danielpalos]

There is a national emergency on the border so declare it. Because the caravans that have arrived and caravans that are on their way is creating a national emergency and we have to meet it head on because the Democrats refuse to see the problem that they dumped into Trump's lap that they had not dealt with for many years. It was a national emergency when Trump separated the caravan families and Illegal immigration still remains a national and border security crisis. Have to be a donkey to not understand this. Only reason there have been less entering is because the military and more border agents and Trump is not catching and releasing but making them wait in Mexico. But remove the military and build more chicken wire fences and see how many will be crossing the border. Nothing is more important then a secure America.

a refugee problem is not a national emergency.

 

[rightwinger]

...what crime did Hillary commit?

LOL. What crime hasn't she committed.

You can’t even show she committed any crimes. When challenged to post the law you think she broke by sending classified material through her personal private email server, you posted a law that didn’t say that was a crime. After that embarrassment, you posted nonsense about Yahoo and Hotmail and then claimed it was a crime because the FBI investigated it.

If transmitting classified documents through a private server wasn't a crime, there wouldn't have been a need for an investigation, dumbass. You arguing that it's LEGAL is the epitome of stupidity.

Transmitting classified documents through s private server is a security violation

If those documents are intercepted, it is a crime

 

[Faun]

...what crime did Hillary commit?

LOL. What crime hasn't she committed.

You can’t even show she committed any crimes. When challenged to post the law you think she broke by sending classified material through her personal private email server, you posted a law that didn’t say that was a crime. After that embarrassment, you posted nonsense about Yahoo and Hotmail and then claimed it was a crime because the FBI investigated it.

If transmitting classified documents through a private server wasn't a crime, there wouldn't have been a need for an investigation, dumbass. You arguing that it's LEGAL is the epitome of stupidity.

Again, using your own moronic logic... if collusion wasn’t a crime, there wouldn’t have been a need for an investigation, dumbass.

And again, I note, the reason you’re using examples like that to show it is a crime is because the law doesn’t say it is, so you’re looking for alternate methods to prove criminality where there is none.

 

[Faun]

LOL

My day is just fine. Meanwhile, all you did was make baseless claims about the housing and auto industry which you then flat out refused to demonstrate was true.

oh, and now I see why you flat out refused to back your claims ... because they're bullshit...

Housing markets are at an all-time high ...

and so are auto loans/leases...

Well at least you tried. Leftist love charts and graphs because they tell an incomplete story.


US New Home Sales Unexpectedly Drop to 2-1/2-Year Low
Sales of new single-family houses in the United States slumped 8.9 percent from the previous month to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 544 thousand in October 2018, following an upwardly revised 1 percent growth in September and missing market expectations of a 3.7 percent jump. New home sales were at the lowest level since March 2016.
Published on 2018-11-28

US New Home Sales Lowest Since 2016
Sales of new single-family houses in the United States dropped 5.5 percent from the previous month to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 553 thousand in September of 2018, following a downwardly revised 3.0 percent decline in August. It is the lowest rate since December 2016, worse than market expectations of 625 thousand. Sales in the Northeast went down to its lowest level since April 2015. Also, sales decreased in the West and in the South.
Published on 2018-10-24

United States New Home Sales | 2019 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast


"So far, the slowdown in new vehicle sales is slow and gradual. Through the first two months of 2018 they have slipped a barely noticeable 0.8%.

That is about to change.

Auto loan interest rates are now at levels not seen since 2010 – an average of 5.2% in February, compared with 4.4% in February 2013, according to Edmunds.com.

That means higher monthly payments regardless of whether one is buying or leasing."

Auto Sales Are Down. Here's Why They'll Continue To Fall.

LOL

What an idiot you are, huh? Your links are about new single-family homes only. The graph I posted was for ALL home sales.

And your link about auto loans is from March 12, 2018, at which point, the Federal fund rate had increased on a whopping 0.75 points under trump. Still doesn't refute the chart I posted showing auto loans and leases are at an all time high.

"When debate is lost slander becomes the tool of the loser".

Nah, you lost the debate when I showed the housing markets and auto loans/leases are still strong.

This is just too funny not to respond to. You now try to prove your initial point that the feds raising interest rates is not the reason for the softening economy by claiming the economy is not softening and in fact housing starts and auto sales which are the leading economic indicators are strong and in fact increasing. You have tied yourself into a pretzel here.

Proving my point is a pretzel to the brain-dead right.

 

[K9Buck]

...what crime did Hillary commit?

LOL. What crime hasn't she committed.

You can’t even show she committed any crimes. When challenged to post the law you think she broke by sending classified material through her personal private email server, you posted a law that didn’t say that was a crime. After that embarrassment, you posted nonsense about Yahoo and Hotmail and then claimed it was a crime because the FBI investigated it.

If transmitting classified documents through a private server wasn't a crime, there wouldn't have been a need for an investigation, dumbass. You arguing that it's LEGAL is the epitome of stupidity.

Again, using your own moronic logic... if collusion wasn’t a crime, there wouldn’t have been a need for an investigation, dumbass.

And again, I note, the reason you’re using examples like that to show it is a crime is because the law doesn’t say it is, so you’re looking for alternate methods to prove criminality where there is none.

Collusion isn't a crime.

 

[LilOlLady]

There is a national emergency on the border so declare it. Because the caravans that have arrived and caravans that are on their way is creating a national emergency and we have to meet it head on because the Democrats refuse to see the problem that they dumped into Trump's lap that they had not dealt with for many years. It was a national emergency when Trump separated the caravan families and Illegal immigration still remains a national and border security crisis. Have to be a donkey to not understand this. Only reason there have been less entering is because the military and more border agents and Trump is not catching and releasing but making them wait in Mexico. But remove the military and build more chicken wire fences and see how many will be crossing the border. Nothing is more important then a secure America.

a refugee problem is not a national emergency.

Being beating by your husband or victim of gang violence or crime are not a statue for refugees or reason for asylum either. We have the same problem here. Open the border as the Democrats want and we will have a national disaster. “an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure” Build the fucking wall and secure the border. ASAP More secure than ever is not enough.

 

[danielpalos]

There is a national emergency on the border so declare it. Because the caravans that have arrived and caravans that are on their way is creating a national emergency and we have to meet it head on because the Democrats refuse to see the problem that they dumped into Trump's lap that they had not dealt with for many years. It was a national emergency when Trump separated the caravan families and Illegal immigration still remains a national and border security crisis. Have to be a donkey to not understand this. Only reason there have been less entering is because the military and more border agents and Trump is not catching and releasing but making them wait in Mexico. But remove the military and build more chicken wire fences and see how many will be crossing the border. Nothing is more important then a secure America.

a refugee problem is not a national emergency.

Being beating by your husband or victim of gang violence or crime are not a statue for refugees or reason for asylum either. We have the same problem here. Open the border as the Democrats want and we will have a national disaster. “an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure” Build the fucking wall and secure the border. ASAP More secure than ever is not enough.

i believe you more when it is about abortion prevention.

 

[edward37]

LOL

My day is just fine. Meanwhile, all you did was make baseless claims about the housing and auto industry which you then flat out refused to demonstrate was true.

oh, and now I see why you flat out refused to back your claims ... because they're bullshit...

Housing markets are at an all-time high ...

and so are auto loans/leases...

Well at least you tried. Leftist love charts and graphs because they tell an incomplete story.


US New Home Sales Unexpectedly Drop to 2-1/2-Year Low
Sales of new single-family houses in the United States slumped 8.9 percent from the previous month to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 544 thousand in October 2018, following an upwardly revised 1 percent growth in September and missing market expectations of a 3.7 percent jump. New home sales were at the lowest level since March 2016.
Published on 2018-11-28

US New Home Sales Lowest Since 2016
Sales of new single-family houses in the United States dropped 5.5 percent from the previous month to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 553 thousand in September of 2018, following a downwardly revised 3.0 percent decline in August. It is the lowest rate since December 2016, worse than market expectations of 625 thousand. Sales in the Northeast went down to its lowest level since April 2015. Also, sales decreased in the West and in the South.
Published on 2018-10-24

United States New Home Sales | 2019 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast


"So far, the slowdown in new vehicle sales is slow and gradual. Through the first two months of 2018 they have slipped a barely noticeable 0.8%.

That is about to change.

Auto loan interest rates are now at levels not seen since 2010 – an average of 5.2% in February, compared with 4.4% in February 2013, according to Edmunds.com.

That means higher monthly payments regardless of whether one is buying or leasing."

Auto Sales Are Down. Here's Why They'll Continue To Fall.

LOL

What an idiot you are, huh? Your links are about new single-family homes only. The graph I posted was for ALL home sales.

And your link about auto loans is from March 12, 2018, at which point, the Federal fund rate had increased on a whopping 0.75 points under trump. Still doesn't refute the chart I posted showing auto loans and leases are at an all time high.

"When debate is lost slander becomes the tool of the loser".

Nah, you lost the debate when I showed the housing markets and auto loans/leases are still strong.

This is just too funny not to respond to. You now try to prove your initial point that the feds raising interest rates is not the reason for the softening economy by claiming the economy is not softening and in fact housing starts and auto sales which are the leading economic indicators are strong and in fact increasing. You have tied yourself into a pretzel here.

Guess you didn't hear the news that Dec retail sales were the LOWEST in NINE years

 

[sawyerloggingon]

Well at least you tried. Leftist love charts and graphs because they tell an incomplete story.


US New Home Sales Unexpectedly Drop to 2-1/2-Year Low
Sales of new single-family houses in the United States slumped 8.9 percent from the previous month to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 544 thousand in October 2018, following an upwardly revised 1 percent growth in September and missing market expectations of a 3.7 percent jump. New home sales were at the lowest level since March 2016.
Published on 2018-11-28

US New Home Sales Lowest Since 2016
Sales of new single-family houses in the United States dropped 5.5 percent from the previous month to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 553 thousand in September of 2018, following a downwardly revised 3.0 percent decline in August. It is the lowest rate since December 2016, worse than market expectations of 625 thousand. Sales in the Northeast went down to its lowest level since April 2015. Also, sales decreased in the West and in the South.
Published on 2018-10-24

United States New Home Sales | 2019 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast


"So far, the slowdown in new vehicle sales is slow and gradual. Through the first two months of 2018 they have slipped a barely noticeable 0.8%.

That is about to change.

Auto loan interest rates are now at levels not seen since 2010 – an average of 5.2% in February, compared with 4.4% in February 2013, according to Edmunds.com.

That means higher monthly payments regardless of whether one is buying or leasing."

Auto Sales Are Down. Here's Why They'll Continue To Fall.

LOL

What an idiot you are, huh? Your links are about new single-family homes only. The graph I posted was for ALL home sales.

And your link about auto loans is from March 12, 2018, at which point, the Federal fund rate had increased on a whopping 0.75 points under trump. Still doesn't refute the chart I posted showing auto loans and leases are at an all time high.

"When debate is lost slander becomes the tool of the loser".

Nah, you lost the debate when I showed the housing markets and auto loans/leases are still strong.

This is just too funny not to respond to. You now try to prove your initial point that the feds raising interest rates is not the reason for the softening economy by claiming the economy is not softening and in fact housing starts and auto sales which are the leading economic indicators are strong and in fact increasing. You have tied yourself into a pretzel here.

Guess you didn't hear the news that Dec retail sales were the LOWEST in NINE years

I've been saying all along the economy has softened.

 

[rightwinger]

...what crime did Hillary commit?

LOL. What crime hasn't she committed.

You can’t even show she committed any crimes. When challenged to post the law you think she broke by sending classified material through her personal private email server, you posted a law that didn’t say that was a crime. After that embarrassment, you posted nonsense about Yahoo and Hotmail and then claimed it was a crime because the FBI investigated it.

If transmitting classified documents through a private server wasn't a crime, there wouldn't have been a need for an investigation, dumbass. You arguing that it's LEGAL is the epitome of stupidity.

Again, using your own moronic logic... if collusion wasn’t a crime, there wouldn’t have been a need for an investigation, dumbass.

And again, I note, the reason you’re using examples like that to show it is a crime is because the law doesn’t say it is, so you’re looking for alternate methods to prove criminality where there is none.

Collusion means participation.
You can collude in an act of charity and it is not a crime

However, if you collude in a criminal act, it is criminal

 

[Faun]

...what crime did Hillary commit?

LOL. What crime hasn't she committed.

You can’t even show she committed any crimes. When challenged to post the law you think she broke by sending classified material through her personal private email server, you posted a law that didn’t say that was a crime. After that embarrassment, you posted nonsense about Yahoo and Hotmail and then claimed it was a crime because the FBI investigated it.

If transmitting classified documents through a private server wasn't a crime, there wouldn't have been a need for an investigation, dumbass. You arguing that it's LEGAL is the epitome of stupidity.

Again, using your own moronic logic... if collusion wasn’t a crime, there wouldn’t have been a need for an investigation, dumbass.

And again, I note, the reason you’re using examples like that to show it is a crime is because the law doesn’t say it is, so you’re looking for alternate methods to prove criminality where there is none.

Collusion isn't a crime.

According to you, it is.

 

[Flopper]

I take it you are completely ignorant of how Hillary was given a pass for a crime that less powerful people have done time for.

politics must not be as easy as it seems. usually, career politicians take care of the political stuff.

One of hardest things to get done in politics is getting a bill passed through the US congress which has any significant impact on the American people. There is nothing easy about being successful in national political office. I think even Donald Trump would agree with this. It's all about relationships, trust, and honesty with your peers. That takes years to develop and most congressmen are never able to do it.

He IS going to sign the bill AND declare a national emergency I'm at a loss for words bad enough to call this POS

He will declare a national emergency if thinks it will play well with his base and he can get it thru the courts, however it will cost him among republicans in congress and it may cost him the election. 64% of the people say he shouldn't call a national emergency and a surprisingly number of republicans agree

After his campaign promise of a big beautiful wall across our southern border paid for by Mexicans, a 55 mile slatted fence paid for by the US taxpayer is not going look very impressive.

A 55 mile wall, won't be enough to control the border, which is why he SHOULD declare an emergency and build the fuckin g wall.



It is insane the controlling the border is a controversial idea. INSANE.

And a 250 mile slatted metal fence will? Controlling the border is not controversial. Spending 20 to 30 billion on a project that will take at least ten years that provides very little security beyond that of a reinforced fence is certainly controversial. Just knowing the opposition to the wall, the time it will take to build it, and the fact that democrats will be controlling at least the presidency or one if not both houses congress during this period should be enough to stop it. From either a security or a political standpoint, it's a loser.

 

[edward37]

politics must not be as easy as it seems. usually, career politicians take care of the political stuff.

One of hardest things to get done in politics is getting a bill passed through the US congress which has any significant impact on the American people. There is nothing easy about being successful in national political office. I think even Donald Trump would agree with this. It's all about relationships, trust, and honesty with your peers. That takes years to develop and most congressmen are never able to do it.

He IS going to sign the bill AND declare a national emergency I'm at a loss for words bad enough to call this POS

He will declare a national emergency if thinks it will play well with his base and he can get it thru the courts, however it will cost him among republicans in congress and it may cost him the election. 64% of the people say he shouldn't call a national emergency and a surprisingly number of republicans agree

After his campaign promise of a big beautiful wall across our southern border paid for by Mexicans, a 55 mile slatted fence paid for by the US taxpayer is not going look very impressive.

A 55 mile wall, won't be enough to control the border, which is why he SHOULD declare an emergency and build the fuckin g wall.



It is insane the controlling the border is a controversial idea. INSANE.

And a 250 mile slatted metal fence will? Controlling the border is not controversial. Spending 20 to 30 billion on a project that will take at least ten years that provides very little security beyond that of a reinforced fence is certainly controversial. Just knowing the opposition to the wall, the time it will take to build it, and the fact that democrats will be controlling at least the presidency or one if not both houses congress during this period should be enough to stop it. From either a security or a political standpoint, it's a loser.

Europe doesn't trust us China and NK laugh at him and Russia our enemy has something on him
trump is a loser ,,,if not for his daddy he'd be a street cleaner ,,,,with no disrespect to street cleaners

 

[Flopper]

Trump is trying to appropriate the powers that the constitution has granted to congress. He will be blocked by the courts. He knows this, but does not care, because he can blame his failure to build a wall on Congress and he courts. His own party is urging him not to try it. The precedent would open the door to the democrats to do the same thing. Congress would become impotent, and the president would become one step closer to having dictatorial authority. The exact same strategy worked for Hitler when the Reichstag burned. This is not NAZI Germany.

What few people seem to realize is the powers of the president is almost unlimited once he declares a national emergency. There are 100 special provisions that go into effect that allow him to bypass most of our laws. He can declare marshal law, seize property, shutdown are take control of communications in the country, freeze bank accounts, seal the borders, suspend immigration, and deploy combat troops in the US. He also has almost unlimited powers in areas of trade, public health, criminal law, agriculture, and even federal employment pay.

President Trump has often complained of the limited power of the president. Trump will certainly utilize these new powers to the fullest only limited by what he thinks he can do without congress revoking his declaration. The next six months could well be a wild ride and a forecast of what we can expect from future presidents.

 

[Correll]

Your idiocy is beyond words.


Hillary was guilty of actual crimes.

Liar. If she was guilty of actual crimes, Trump would make sure she was prosecuted. He even said so when was running for president.

So, now you're position is the anything and everything Trump says, should be regarded as the absolute Truth and nothing but the TRuth?


Interesting. YOu libs really will spew whatever shit you need to make your latest shit sort of hold together enough to give yourself a rationalization to be a shitty asshole, regardless of how much shit you have to spew from your face anus.

Meanwhile, while you’re calling folks on the left, “fascists,” for looking to lock up political opponents, you forgive folks on the right for doing the same.

And you cowardly avoid answering... did you vote for trump?

Funny, how you ignored the "for political reasons" which is obvious your motivation for EVERYONE, you fascist.

LOLOL

You freaks have been calling for her incarceration for decades now. Oh, that’s not political, is it?

Well, in the sense that we republicans support the rule of law, and you liberals don't, yes it is political.

The rule of law includes a presumption of innocence. Chanting, “lock her up,” when she’s not been convicted of any crimes reveals the right doesn’t give a shit about the rule of law when it involves their political opponents.

We both know that she is a criminal. So, the Rule of Law is not in question.

NEXT!

 

[Correll]

The topic is simple enough that we don't need analogies to explain it.


Build a wall to keep out people and things that we don't want to enter our community.



As is our right. As is the right of EVERY sovereign nation.

We already have walls and fences.

Which you are against maintaining.


Because you don't believe that America has the same rights as other nations.



Because you hate America.

Nope, you’re lying again.

The issue is whether to build a Wall or not.


I interpreted your constant attacks on me for wanting a Wall, as opposition to the Wall.


In another post, you have finally revealed that you are for a Wall.


That is fairly insane of you, but ok.



So, what do you think of the asshole fucktards who think that America has fewer rights than ever other nation in the World?

By attacks on you, you mean calling you a liar when you lie. Like your lie that other posters think America has fewer rights than every other country when no one else but you has said that.

Every nation in the world has the right to decide who enters and becomes a part of them.


Yet, these anti-American assholes are outraged that America would try to control who enters and becomes part of US.


That is not a lie I am telling.


My question stands.


what do you think of the asshole fucktards who think that America has fewer rights than ever other nation in the World?

 

[Correll]

How much have you given...?

Click here to support We The People Will Build the Wall organized by Brian Kolfage

Correll doesn't get out much. He is not aware that Mexicans have ladders, shovels, airplanes, boats, rafts, and visas. Where the wall doesn't work, he is in favor of printing signs reading "no trespassing" to hang on it.

That was the words of a very simple mind.


Too simple to understand how walls work.

Oh, which of those tools can be defeated by a wall...?

Depends on how you define "defeat".


No one claims that the Wall will stop all invaders.



But if the need for a ladder or a tunnel, reduces border crossings by half,


that would be a huge "defeat" for the illegals, and a HUGE win for America.


And I hope for better.

AND, of course the Wall is only PART Of what we are doing.


You know that right?

”But if...”

When I see a rightard say that, that’s when I cut you off and say, “fuck off,” because I have learned from experience, everything that follows is made up rightarded bullshit.

So.... fuck off.

Pointing out that a wall that significantly reduces illegal border crossings by half, would be a huge win for America,


in hardly bullshit.



YOur cowardly excuse for not responding seriously, is noted, and laughed at.