Trumps election staff was wiretapped......Well so much for no wiretap

[Faun]

You are confused.

The staff was wire tapped, as we all know and as the FBI and DOJ confirmed.

No information was illegally released to the media: that claim is an Alt Right lie. Comey never said anything of the sort as you allege.

You are making claims that are actionable against you in court.

GOWDY: The dissemination of which is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison?

COMEY: Sure, dissemination -- unauthorized dissemination.

GOWDY: Unauthorized dissemination of classified or otherwise legally protected material punishable by a felony up to 10 years in federal prison.

COMEY: Yes. Yes, as it should be.

Full transcript: FBI Director James Comey testifies on Russian interference in 2016 election


Rep. Jim Himes (D) who sits on the House intel committee stated the leak of Flynn was a felony.

Check out 8:00 and 9:00 mark:



Everyone agreed that the leak was a felony. Now you're trying to pretend it didn't even happen. Why would that be? Because since then it's become totally obvious that it was Obama political appointees that circulated the information and leaked it to the media.

No, they agreed if it was illegally leaked, it was a felony. They have yet to determine who the leaker is, under what circumstances it was leaked, and if it was leaked illegally or not.

How could his name be legally leaked, and if it was, why has not the leaker stepped forward and short circuited the whole thing?

It makes more sense that it was illegally leaked and someone is looking over their shoulder every few seconds.

Not all leaks are illegal. For one thing, the leaker has to know the name they are leaking was obtained from communications intercepted with a FISA warrant. We don't know who the leaker is or under what circumstances they leak was conveyed to the press. Without that, it cannot be determined if the leak was illegal or not.

That is UTTER HORSE SHIT. Comey himself when pressed admitted the leaks were ILLEGAL because the Intel was classified, and the subjects were unmasked.

It is only legal to give The Press Intel only if it is Declassified and then Disseminated to The Public.

See post # 45 for further clarification.

 

[The Original Tree]

Your Surrender and Admittance that you are a Troll and a Liar is accepted.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The regressives of the Alt Right and the Far Right can yell all that want, but they are still wrong.

No laws were broken by Rice.

However, laws may well have been violated by members of Trump's campaign staff, and if so, they will be punished severely.

 

[toomuchtime_]

But not "incidentally" unmasked. If he was unmasked to be used for political purposes this represents a level of corruption in the Obama Justice Department and intelligence services that would have made Dick Nixon blush.

Yes, if that was the reason his name was unmasked, then you are correct, it will be a serious crime. However, if his name was unmasked because that information was needed as part of an investigation into potential crimes, then it is not illegal to unmask his name. And as of now, we still don't know who unmasked his name or for what reason they did so.

We may not know the exact person who unmasked him but we do know it was for political purposes. So far there is not a single fact in evidence to support any other purpose. All of the evidence indicates this was part of Obama's Russia hoax aimed at influencing the election in favor of Clinton. Much more important than the individual guilt of the person who unmasked him is that this was an assault on our democracy from the highest levels of government. If this sort of thing happened in Turkey or Russia, we would all be shocked and outraged, but now that it has happened here in America, Democrats appear to approve of it. This is the Obama legacy.

No, you don't know that. That may be what you believe, but you have no evidence to back that up. That's obvious since the investigation is ongoing and no such declarations have been established.

Not one fact has come out to support the argument there ever was a legitimate reason to open such an investigation, and considering how loose the Obama administration has been with intelligence leaks, if there were evidence some one would have leaked it by now. It is obvious the whole Russia thing was a hoax aimed at influencing the election in favor of Clinton. You may want to continue to bury your head in the sand with bullshit about ongoing investigations and classified materials, but with so many leaks coming from the Obama people the fact that they haven't contained a single actual fact, it is simply not rational to go on denying this whole thing was a hoax and an assault on our democracy from the highest levels or government. If this had happened in Turkey, we would be comparing it to a coup.

Sounds like we're in agreement that you're not privy to everything the FBI is currently investigating. Who knows what they know? Maybe they have evidence, maybe they don't. All we know at this point is that their investigation is still ongoing.

lol What we know is they are like a sieve for rumors but appear to have no facts to support them.

 

[JakeStarkey]

What we do know about the Alt Right regressivews and neo-fascists is that "they are like a sieve for rumors but appear to have no facts to support them."

 

[theHawk]

But they did wiretap his staff. Then illegally leaked information from those taps to the media. That leak was a felony offense, Comey said so himself.
The Obama admin broke the law, and Fakey has to manufacture new excuses for Obama and his corrupt Banana Republic government.

You are confused.

The staff was wire tapped, as we all know and as the FBI and DOJ confirmed.

No information was illegally released to the media: that claim is an Alt Right lie. Comey never said anything of the sort as you allege.

You are making claims that are actionable against you in court.

GOWDY: The dissemination of which is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison?

COMEY: Sure, dissemination -- unauthorized dissemination.

GOWDY: Unauthorized dissemination of classified or otherwise legally protected material punishable by a felony up to 10 years in federal prison.

COMEY: Yes. Yes, as it should be.

Full transcript: FBI Director James Comey testifies on Russian interference in 2016 election


Rep. Jim Himes (D) who sits on the House intel committee stated the leak of Flynn was a felony.

Check out 8:00 and 9:00 mark:



Everyone agreed that the leak was a felony. Now you're trying to pretend it didn't even happen. Why would that be? Because since then it's become totally obvious that it was Obama political appointees that circulated the information and leaked it to the media.

No, they agreed if it was illegally leaked, it was a felony. They have yet to determine who the leaker is, under what circumstances it was leaked, and if it was leaked illegally or not.

It was leaked, that is a fact.

The newspaper that first reported it said the source was a "high ranking government official".

No one is questioning if it was leaked. What is still unknown is if the leak was illegal.

There is no question about it. Comey agreed with Gowdy that it was a crime. Even Democrat Jim Himes said emphadically it was a felony.

 

[AntonToo]

You are confused.

The staff was wire tapped, as we all know and as the FBI and DOJ confirmed.

No information was illegally released to the media: that claim is an Alt Right lie. Comey never said anything of the sort as you allege.

You are making claims that are actionable against you in court.

GOWDY: The dissemination of which is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison?

COMEY: Sure, dissemination -- unauthorized dissemination.

GOWDY: Unauthorized dissemination of classified or otherwise legally protected material punishable by a felony up to 10 years in federal prison.

COMEY: Yes. Yes, as it should be.

Full transcript: FBI Director James Comey testifies on Russian interference in 2016 election


Rep. Jim Himes (D) who sits on the House intel committee stated the leak of Flynn was a felony.

Check out 8:00 and 9:00 mark:



Everyone agreed that the leak was a felony. Now you're trying to pretend it didn't even happen. Why would that be? Because since then it's become totally obvious that it was Obama political appointees that circulated the information and leaked it to the media.

No, they agreed if it was illegally leaked, it was a felony. They have yet to determine who the leaker is, under what circumstances it was leaked, and if it was leaked illegally or not.

It was leaked, that is a fact.

The newspaper that first reported it said the source was a "high ranking government official".

No one is questioning if it was leaked. What is still unknown is if the leak was illegal.

There is no question about it. Comey agreed with Gowdy that it was a crime. Even Democrat Jim Himes said emphadically it was a felony.

Flynn was compromised by the Russians and Trump admin KNEW about it for 2 weeks and DID NOTHING until the leak. This leaking was a FAVOR to this country and would be a textbook example of whistleblower protection eligible action.

 

[AntonToo]

No, they agreed if it was illegally leaked, it was a felony. They have yet to determine who the leaker is, under what circumstances it was leaked, and if it was leaked illegally or not.

It was leaked, that is a fact.

The newspaper that first reported it said the source was a "high ranking government official".

Ok this thread is RETARDED.

1. Unmasking IS NOT "wiretapping" in any sense of the word. (It is further not illegal under certain situations and would be covered by whistleblower protections)

2. The claim by Trump is not just wiretapping, the claim was that OBAMA, that sick sick motherfucker, ordered politically motivated surveillance of Trump and his campaign.

FBI and Republicans have unanimously called the charge completely BASELESS bs and NOTHING has changed to this day.

FBI has also stated that Trump compaign is UNDER INVESTOGATION FOR COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA. So yes, OF COURSE FBI, is fully expected to surveil targets in the admin relavant to investigation with FISA court blessing.

You have to "WIRETAP" before you unmask which is a whole lot different than voting for it before you see what is in it.

That wiretapping WAS COMPLETELY LEGAL.

Yes, United States has wiretap on foreign actors like Kyslyak, who Flynn called.

If it was legal and based on Fake Russian Collusion allegations

You are clearly too stupid for this.

Our intelligence can legally spy on any NON-AMERICAN and it is further the DUTY of our intelligence to wiretap agents of adversaries like Russia.

Flynn got caught because he spoke to Russians and then lied about it to the world generally and to Vice President specifically. THAT WAS WHY HE GOT FIRED. His behaviour was reprehensible, he WAS NOT a good man as Trump claimed, he was a sketchy liar and the deflection about HOW he got caught is totally pathetic.

 

[theHawk]

GOWDY: The dissemination of which is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison?

COMEY: Sure, dissemination -- unauthorized dissemination.

GOWDY: Unauthorized dissemination of classified or otherwise legally protected material punishable by a felony up to 10 years in federal prison.

COMEY: Yes. Yes, as it should be.

Full transcript: FBI Director James Comey testifies on Russian interference in 2016 election


Rep. Jim Himes (D) who sits on the House intel committee stated the leak of Flynn was a felony.

Check out 8:00 and 9:00 mark:



Everyone agreed that the leak was a felony. Now you're trying to pretend it didn't even happen. Why would that be? Because since then it's become totally obvious that it was Obama political appointees that circulated the information and leaked it to the media.

No, they agreed if it was illegally leaked, it was a felony. They have yet to determine who the leaker is, under what circumstances it was leaked, and if it was leaked illegally or not.

It was leaked, that is a fact.

The newspaper that first reported it said the source was a "high ranking government official".

No one is questioning if it was leaked. What is still unknown is if the leak was illegal.

There is no question about it. Comey agreed with Gowdy that it was a crime. Even Democrat Jim Himes said emphadically it was a felony.

Flynn was compromised by the Russians and Trump admin KNEW about it for 2 weeks and DID NOTHING until the leak. This leaking was a FAVOR to this country and would be a textbook example of whistleblower protection eligible action.

That's not what whistleblowing is. Whistleblowing is when an insider exposes his own company's illegal activities. FISA wiretaps being used illegally for political purposes and violating a US citizen's rights was a gross violation of US federal law. He was never "compromised" by the Russians because he never did anything illegal. Nothing he spoke about with his conversations with the Russian ambassador were illegal. He never negotiated any deals as the corrupt Obama administration claimed.

 

[AntonToo]

No, they agreed if it was illegally leaked, it was a felony. They have yet to determine who the leaker is, under what circumstances it was leaked, and if it was leaked illegally or not.

It was leaked, that is a fact.

The newspaper that first reported it said the source was a "high ranking government official".

No one is questioning if it was leaked. What is still unknown is if the leak was illegal.

There is no question about it. Comey agreed with Gowdy that it was a crime. Even Democrat Jim Himes said emphadically it was a felony.

Flynn was compromised by the Russians and Trump admin KNEW about it for 2 weeks and DID NOTHING until the leak. This leaking was a FAVOR to this country and would be a textbook example of whistleblower protection eligible action.

That's not what whistleblowing is. Whistleblowing is when an insider exposes his own company's illegal activities. FISA wiretaps being used illegally for political purposes and violating a US citizen's rights was a gross violation of US federal law. He was never "compromised" by the Russians because he never did anything illegal. Nothing he spoke about with his conversations with the Russian ambassador were illegal. He never negotiated any deals as the corrupt Obama administration claimed.

How the f are you going to prove that this leak was for political purposes rather than patriotic ones?

Flynn was compromised by the Russians and was prime for extortion while having top security clearance - do you morons understand the severity of such threat for United States?

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are confused.

The staff was wire tapped, as we all know and as the FBI and DOJ confirmed.

No information was illegally released to the media: that claim is an Alt Right lie. Comey never said anything of the sort as you allege.

You are making claims that are actionable against you in court.

GOWDY: The dissemination of which is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison?

COMEY: Sure, dissemination -- unauthorized dissemination.

GOWDY: Unauthorized dissemination of classified or otherwise legally protected material punishable by a felony up to 10 years in federal prison.

COMEY: Yes. Yes, as it should be.

Full transcript: FBI Director James Comey testifies on Russian interference in 2016 election


Rep. Jim Himes (D) who sits on the House intel committee stated the leak of Flynn was a felony.

Check out 8:00 and 9:00 mark:



Everyone agreed that the leak was a felony. Now you're trying to pretend it didn't even happen. Why would that be? Because since then it's become totally obvious that it was Obama political appointees that circulated the information and leaked it to the media.

No, they agreed if it was illegally leaked, it was a felony. They have yet to determine who the leaker is, under what circumstances it was leaked, and if it was leaked illegally or not.

It was leaked, that is a fact.

The newspaper that first reported it said the source was a "high ranking government official".

No one is questioning if it was leaked. What is still unknown is if the leak was illegal.

There is no question about it. Comey agreed with Gowdy that it was a crime. Even Democrat Jim Himes said emphadically it was a felony.

Comey did no such thing saying anyone had committed a crime, and your written statement is actionable as liable.

 

[JakeStarkey]

No, they agreed if it was illegally leaked, it was a felony. They have yet to determine who the leaker is, under what circumstances it was leaked, and if it was leaked illegally or not.

It was leaked, that is a fact.

The newspaper that first reported it said the source was a "high ranking government official".

No one is questioning if it was leaked. What is still unknown is if the leak was illegal.

There is no question about it. Comey agreed with Gowdy that it was a crime. Even Democrat Jim Himes said emphadically it was a felony.

Flynn was compromised by the Russians and Trump admin KNEW about it for 2 weeks and DID NOTHING until the leak. This leaking was a FAVOR to this country and would be a textbook example of whistleblower protection eligible action.

That's not what whistleblowing is. Whistleblowing is when an insider exposes his own company's illegal activities. FISA wiretaps being used illegally for political purposes and violating a US citizen's rights was a gross violation of US federal law. He was never "compromised" by the Russians because he never did anything illegal. Nothing he spoke about with his conversations with the Russian ambassador were illegal. He never negotiated any deals as the corrupt Obama administration claimed.

Anyone saying these FISA actions were illegal is in gross violation of US federal law.

 

[StrongBad]

OP give a fake analysis of the facts.

Carter Page was wire tapped, not Trump.

FBI and DOJ have specifically said Trump was not wire tapped.

So you are saying Obama wiretapped Trump's campaign staff but not Trump. Sort of makes you think of Watergate. At Watergae the burglars were looking for canpaign information they could use and Obama wiretapped Trump's campaign staff to find campaign information the Dems could use. Hmmm, tricky Dick and Dirty Barry.

According to the article, no one from Trump's campaign was wiretapped.

I'll never tire of that Trump gif. Fuckin' hysterical.

 

[theHawk]

It was leaked, that is a fact.

The newspaper that first reported it said the source was a "high ranking government official".

No one is questioning if it was leaked. What is still unknown is if the leak was illegal.

There is no question about it. Comey agreed with Gowdy that it was a crime. Even Democrat Jim Himes said emphadically it was a felony.

Flynn was compromised by the Russians and Trump admin KNEW about it for 2 weeks and DID NOTHING until the leak. This leaking was a FAVOR to this country and would be a textbook example of whistleblower protection eligible action.

That's not what whistleblowing is. Whistleblowing is when an insider exposes his own company's illegal activities. FISA wiretaps being used illegally for political purposes and violating a US citizen's rights was a gross violation of US federal law. He was never "compromised" by the Russians because he never did anything illegal. Nothing he spoke about with his conversations with the Russian ambassador were illegal. He never negotiated any deals as the corrupt Obama administration claimed.

Anyone saying these FISA actions were illegal is in gross violation of US federal law.

I never said "FISA actions" were illegal. FISA is a court that merely grants authorization to an agency to carry out surveillance. That agency has a responsibility to protect US citizens identified in those recordings. "Unmasking" can only happen when there is a serious threat identified, such as actionable terrorist plotting. Only a few have the authority to unmask. The head of the NSA stated he never authorized any such unmasking. We do know that certain Obama appointees did have that authority. We also know, thanks to newspaper outlets that published the story about Flynn, that a "high ranking government official" provided them the information about Flynn recordings. So either it was intelligence officers that originally collected and handled the data, or it was the Obama appointees that abused their power and outed Flynn in order to harm Trump politically.

So which is it Fakey? A a career intelligence officer decided to risk his career and jail time, or a Democrat hack willing to do anything to damage a victorious Trump that humiliated Hillary and the Hussein on Election Day? Or are you just going to try to threaten and bully anyone that opposes your warped viewpoint by claiming it's "illegal" to say things?

 

[JakeStarkey]

FISA taps were not used "illegally", a made up claim of no merit by the neo-fascist Alt Right regressives who want to align the USA with Russia.

Not going to happen.

 

[Faun]

You are confused.

The staff was wire tapped, as we all know and as the FBI and DOJ confirmed.

No information was illegally released to the media: that claim is an Alt Right lie. Comey never said anything of the sort as you allege.

You are making claims that are actionable against you in court.

GOWDY: The dissemination of which is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison?

COMEY: Sure, dissemination -- unauthorized dissemination.

GOWDY: Unauthorized dissemination of classified or otherwise legally protected material punishable by a felony up to 10 years in federal prison.

COMEY: Yes. Yes, as it should be.

Full transcript: FBI Director James Comey testifies on Russian interference in 2016 election


Rep. Jim Himes (D) who sits on the House intel committee stated the leak of Flynn was a felony.

Check out 8:00 and 9:00 mark:



Everyone agreed that the leak was a felony. Now you're trying to pretend it didn't even happen. Why would that be? Because since then it's become totally obvious that it was Obama political appointees that circulated the information and leaked it to the media.

No, they agreed if it was illegally leaked, it was a felony. They have yet to determine who the leaker is, under what circumstances it was leaked, and if it was leaked illegally or not.

It was leaked, that is a fact.

The newspaper that first reported it said the source was a "high ranking government official".

No one is questioning if it was leaked. What is still unknown is if the leak was illegal.

There is no question about it. Comey agreed with Gowdy that it was a crime. Even Democrat Jim Himes said emphadically it was a felony.

What he agreed was a crime was the "unauthorized dissemination of classified or otherwise legally protected material." That alone should clue you in that all leaks are not necessarily criminal. And that's not including cases where the leaker does not know their leak comes from such material.

 

[JakeStarkey]

No criminality has ever been supported by the evidence.

 

[theHawk]

GOWDY: The dissemination of which is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison?

COMEY: Sure, dissemination -- unauthorized dissemination.

GOWDY: Unauthorized dissemination of classified or otherwise legally protected material punishable by a felony up to 10 years in federal prison.

COMEY: Yes. Yes, as it should be.

Full transcript: FBI Director James Comey testifies on Russian interference in 2016 election


Rep. Jim Himes (D) who sits on the House intel committee stated the leak of Flynn was a felony.

Check out 8:00 and 9:00 mark:



Everyone agreed that the leak was a felony. Now you're trying to pretend it didn't even happen. Why would that be? Because since then it's become totally obvious that it was Obama political appointees that circulated the information and leaked it to the media.

No, they agreed if it was illegally leaked, it was a felony. They have yet to determine who the leaker is, under what circumstances it was leaked, and if it was leaked illegally or not.

It was leaked, that is a fact.

The newspaper that first reported it said the source was a "high ranking government official".

No one is questioning if it was leaked. What is still unknown is if the leak was illegal.

There is no question about it. Comey agreed with Gowdy that it was a crime. Even Democrat Jim Himes said emphadically it was a felony.

What he agreed was a crime was the "unauthorized dissemination of classified or otherwise legally protected material." That alone should clue you in that all leaks are not necessarily criminal. And that's not including cases where the leaker does not know their leak comes from such material.

If it was authorized then where are the official documents to back that claim up? Who authorized it? Oh that's right, nobody knows, which means it wasn't authorized. You don't know anything about handling of classified material or the process of declassifying it. The process is very much well documented.

 

[AntonToo]

No, they agreed if it was illegally leaked, it was a felony. They have yet to determine who the leaker is, under what circumstances it was leaked, and if it was leaked illegally or not.

It was leaked, that is a fact.

The newspaper that first reported it said the source was a "high ranking government official".

No one is questioning if it was leaked. What is still unknown is if the leak was illegal.

There is no question about it. Comey agreed with Gowdy that it was a crime. Even Democrat Jim Himes said emphadically it was a felony.

What he agreed was a crime was the "unauthorized dissemination of classified or otherwise legally protected material." That alone should clue you in that all leaks are not necessarily criminal. And that's not including cases where the leaker does not know their leak comes from such material.

If it was authorized then where are the official documents to back that claim up? Who authorized it? Oh that's right, nobody knows, which means it wasn't authorized. You don't know anything about handling of classified material or the process of declassifying it. The process is very much well documented.

You still don't get it.

Unauthorized is not a synonym for illegal.

 

[theHawk]

It was leaked, that is a fact.

The newspaper that first reported it said the source was a "high ranking government official".

No one is questioning if it was leaked. What is still unknown is if the leak was illegal.

There is no question about it. Comey agreed with Gowdy that it was a crime. Even Democrat Jim Himes said emphadically it was a felony.

What he agreed was a crime was the "unauthorized dissemination of classified or otherwise legally protected material." That alone should clue you in that all leaks are not necessarily criminal. And that's not including cases where the leaker does not know their leak comes from such material.

If it was authorized then where are the official documents to back that claim up? Who authorized it? Oh that's right, nobody knows, which means it wasn't authorized. You don't know anything about handling of classified material or the process of declassifying it. The process is very much well documented.

You still don't get it.

Unauthorized is not a synonym for illegal.

un·au·thor·ized
ˌənˈôTHəˌrīzd/unofficial, unsanctioned, unaccredited, unlicensed, unwarranted, warrantless, unapproved, bootleg, pirated; More
wildcat;
disallowed, prohibited, out of bounds, banned, barred, forbidden, outlawed, illegal, illegitimate, illicit, proscribed


You muppets are too easy.