Trump's trade war with China

Well, if you on your side of the aisle, ever manage to nominate a candidate against the wishes of your corporate approved leadership, and he/she addresses these issues, AS YOU SEE FIT, ie (focusing on corporations and employers)


know that I will listen and I will be interested.

I don't have a side of the aisle.


I like that we have established that we have the same goal, ie the best interests of the American people, both as a group and individually.


Not everyone is on that page. But we are. Let's keep that in mind.

Just wondering, do you think that I am on that page?


Your "adapt or die" comment shows that you, at best,, do not care about the interests of at least some Americans.

Actually, it shows the opposite. Wanting people to adapt and not just wait for the government to save them is looking out for their best interest. Call it though love! :113:


Saying that they can "die" is not looking out for their interests. It is dismissing them.
 
I don't have a side of the aisle.


I like that we have established that we have the same goal, ie the best interests of the American people, both as a group and individually.


Not everyone is on that page. But we are. Let's keep that in mind.

Just wondering, do you think that I am on that page?


Your "adapt or die" comment shows that you, at best,, do not care about the interests of at least some Americans.

Actually, it shows the opposite. Wanting people to adapt and not just wait for the government to save them is looking out for their best interest. Call it though love! :113:


Saying that they can "die" is not looking out for their interests. It is dismissing them.

It is just an expression, I thought we covered that.
 
There may be exceptions. The question was very broad. But if we prop up industries that we aren’t good at, we will just fall behind. Are you not a capitalist?


Gator was talking about people. "Adapt or die", is what he said.
Are you not a capitalist?

Yes, but why do you ask?
You seem to want government managed trade. That isn’t capitalism. Much more socialism. Do you believe in markets?


Pretending that the choices are trade without any government trade policy, or "government managed trade", is something an anarchist would do.


A very dishonest anarchist.


Meanwhile in the real world, this thread is about Trade Policy. And no serious person would be pretending that the idea of trade policy is not legitimate in a capitalist system.



So, why you playing such a dishonest game?
Dishonest? I think you just don’t like the game. I think the best trade policy is free trade. It’s determined by the traders, not the government. You seem to think big gov is better at determining trade. I disagree.
 
No. We have done it Trump's way for decades. I'm not interested.


Well, if you on your side of the aisle, ever manage to nominate a candidate against the wishes of your corporate approved leadership, and he/she addresses these issues, AS YOU SEE FIT, ie (focusing on corporations and employers)


know that I will listen and I will be interested.

I don't have a side of the aisle.


I like that we have established that we have the same goal, ie the best interests of the American people, both as a group and individually.


Not everyone is on that page. But we are. Let's keep that in mind.

Just wondering, do you think that I am on that page?


Your "adapt or die" comment shows that you, at best,, do not care about the interests of at least some Americans.
He cares about long term interests.
 
I don't have a side of the aisle.


I like that we have established that we have the same goal, ie the best interests of the American people, both as a group and individually.


Not everyone is on that page. But we are. Let's keep that in mind.

Just wondering, do you think that I am on that page?


Your "adapt or die" comment shows that you, at best,, do not care about the interests of at least some Americans.

Actually, it shows the opposite. Wanting people to adapt and not just wait for the government to save them is looking out for their best interest. Call it though love! :113:


Saying that they can "die" is not looking out for their interests. It is dismissing them.
Die is a bit extreme, but it is in their long term interest to change and adapt.
 
I like that we have established that we have the same goal, ie the best interests of the American people, both as a group and individually.


Not everyone is on that page. But we are. Let's keep that in mind.

Just wondering, do you think that I am on that page?


Your "adapt or die" comment shows that you, at best,, do not care about the interests of at least some Americans.

Actually, it shows the opposite. Wanting people to adapt and not just wait for the government to save them is looking out for their best interest. Call it though love! :113:


Saying that they can "die" is not looking out for their interests. It is dismissing them.
Die is a bit extreme, but it is in their long term interest to change and adapt.

Accepting a $9.00 and hour job to replace the $20 an hour job that went overseas so that someone that never created anything can get a better return is not in the countries best interest.
 
Just wondering, do you think that I am on that page?


Your "adapt or die" comment shows that you, at best,, do not care about the interests of at least some Americans.

Actually, it shows the opposite. Wanting people to adapt and not just wait for the government to save them is looking out for their best interest. Call it though love! :113:


Saying that they can "die" is not looking out for their interests. It is dismissing them.
Die is a bit extreme, but it is in their long term interest to change and adapt.

Accepting a $9.00 and hour job to replace the $20 an hour job that went overseas so that someone that never created anything can get a better return is not in the countries best interest.
Getting a job that is more productive is. There is no long term success in propping up a business that can't compete.
 
Your "adapt or die" comment shows that you, at best,, do not care about the interests of at least some Americans.

Actually, it shows the opposite. Wanting people to adapt and not just wait for the government to save them is looking out for their best interest. Call it though love! :113:


Saying that they can "die" is not looking out for their interests. It is dismissing them.
Die is a bit extreme, but it is in their long term interest to change and adapt.

Accepting a $9.00 and hour job to replace the $20 an hour job that went overseas so that someone that never created anything can get a better return is not in the countries best interest.
Getting a job that is more productive is. There is no long term success in propping up a business that can't compete.

They can compete. "Shareholders" simply are not satisfied with their returns. It always has to be more, more, more.
 
This is not something the government is good at. Trump policy was supposed to strengthen steel. But what has actually happened? US Steels stock has dropped like 80%.

U.S. Steel plans to lay off hundreds of workers in Michigan - Reuters

United States Steel Corp will temporarily lay off hundreds of workers at its Great Lakes facility in Michigan in coming weeks, according to a filing the steelmaker made with the State of Michigan.
 
This is not something the government is good at. Trump policy was supposed to strengthen steel. But what has actually happened? US Steels stock has dropped like 80%.

U.S. Steel plans to lay off hundreds of workers in Michigan - Reuters

United States Steel Corp will temporarily lay off hundreds of workers at its Great Lakes facility in Michigan in coming weeks, according to a filing the steelmaker made with the State of Michigan.
maybe Trump needs to lock up all the progressives and this stuff would stop.
 
Actually, it shows the opposite. Wanting people to adapt and not just wait for the government to save them is looking out for their best interest. Call it though love! :113:


Saying that they can "die" is not looking out for their interests. It is dismissing them.
Die is a bit extreme, but it is in their long term interest to change and adapt.

Accepting a $9.00 and hour job to replace the $20 an hour job that went overseas so that someone that never created anything can get a better return is not in the countries best interest.
Getting a job that is more productive is. There is no long term success in propping up a business that can't compete.

They can compete. "Shareholders" simply are not satisfied with their returns. It always has to be more, more, more.
Capitalists will always look for the most profit.
 
This is not something the government is good at. Trump policy was supposed to strengthen steel. But what has actually happened? US Steels stock has dropped like 80%.

U.S. Steel plans to lay off hundreds of workers in Michigan - Reuters

United States Steel Corp will temporarily lay off hundreds of workers at its Great Lakes facility in Michigan in coming weeks, according to a filing the steelmaker made with the State of Michigan.
maybe Trump needs to lock up all the progressives and this stuff would stop.
They aren't responsible for trump policy, though he sure spends like a progressive.
 
This is not something the government is good at. Trump policy was supposed to strengthen steel. But what has actually happened? US Steels stock has dropped like 80%.

U.S. Steel plans to lay off hundreds of workers in Michigan - Reuters

United States Steel Corp will temporarily lay off hundreds of workers at its Great Lakes facility in Michigan in coming weeks, according to a filing the steelmaker made with the State of Michigan.
maybe Trump needs to lock up all the progressives and this stuff would stop.
They aren't responsible for trump policy, though he sure spends like a progressive.
Of course they aren't, they are responsible for impeding Trump's policy, liar.
 
This is not something the government is good at. Trump policy was supposed to strengthen steel. But what has actually happened? US Steels stock has dropped like 80%.

U.S. Steel plans to lay off hundreds of workers in Michigan - Reuters

United States Steel Corp will temporarily lay off hundreds of workers at its Great Lakes facility in Michigan in coming weeks, according to a filing the steelmaker made with the State of Michigan.
maybe Trump needs to lock up all the progressives and this stuff would stop.
They aren't responsible for trump policy, though he sure spends like a progressive.
Of course they aren't, they are responsible for impeding Trump's policy, liar.
Trump did his steel tariffs. The result isn't good. They should have impeded more it seems.
 
This is not something the government is good at. Trump policy was supposed to strengthen steel. But what has actually happened? US Steels stock has dropped like 80%.

U.S. Steel plans to lay off hundreds of workers in Michigan - Reuters

United States Steel Corp will temporarily lay off hundreds of workers at its Great Lakes facility in Michigan in coming weeks, according to a filing the steelmaker made with the State of Michigan.
maybe Trump needs to lock up all the progressives and this stuff would stop.
They aren't responsible for trump policy, though he sure spends like a progressive.
Of course they aren't, they are responsible for impeding Trump's policy, liar.
Trump did his steel tariffs. The result isn't good. They should have impeded more it seems.
lol....you don't know jack except what the media enema supplies you.
 
This is not something the government is good at. Trump policy was supposed to strengthen steel. But what has actually happened? US Steels stock has dropped like 80%.

U.S. Steel plans to lay off hundreds of workers in Michigan - Reuters

United States Steel Corp will temporarily lay off hundreds of workers at its Great Lakes facility in Michigan in coming weeks, according to a filing the steelmaker made with the State of Michigan.
maybe Trump needs to lock up all the progressives and this stuff would stop.
They aren't responsible for trump policy, though he sure spends like a progressive.
Of course they aren't, they are responsible for impeding Trump's policy, liar.
Trump did his steel tariffs. The result isn't good. They should have impeded more it seems.
lol....you don't know jack except what the media enema supplies you.
I know the US Steel stock has plummeted and they are laying off workers. That must be our idea of success.
 
I like that we have established that we have the same goal, ie the best interests of the American people, both as a group and individually.


Not everyone is on that page. But we are. Let's keep that in mind.

Just wondering, do you think that I am on that page?


Your "adapt or die" comment shows that you, at best,, do not care about the interests of at least some Americans.

Actually, it shows the opposite. Wanting people to adapt and not just wait for the government to save them is looking out for their best interest. Call it though love! :113:


Saying that they can "die" is not looking out for their interests. It is dismissing them.

It is just an expression, I thought we covered that.


Expressions have meanings, it is why we use them. To convey meaning.


Your meaning in this context is that you don't want to consider their interests in the cost benefit analysis of American trade policy.

You are happy to consider the interests of everyone else, especially people like you, and business owners, but not working class Americans.
 
Gator was talking about people. "Adapt or die", is what he said.
Are you not a capitalist?

Yes, but why do you ask?
You seem to want government managed trade. That isn’t capitalism. Much more socialism. Do you believe in markets?


Pretending that the choices are trade without any government trade policy, or "government managed trade", is something an anarchist would do.


A very dishonest anarchist.


Meanwhile in the real world, this thread is about Trade Policy. And no serious person would be pretending that the idea of trade policy is not legitimate in a capitalist system.



So, why you playing such a dishonest game?
Dishonest? I think you just don’t like the game. I think the best trade policy is free trade. It’s determined by the traders, not the government. You seem to think big gov is better at determining trade. I disagree.


Allowing our trading "partners" to practice trade policy designed to benefit their people by fucking ours, is not "Free Trade",

it is being the world's bitch on trade.
 
Well, if you on your side of the aisle, ever manage to nominate a candidate against the wishes of your corporate approved leadership, and he/she addresses these issues, AS YOU SEE FIT, ie (focusing on corporations and employers)


know that I will listen and I will be interested.

I don't have a side of the aisle.

I like that we have established that we have the same goal, ie the best interests of the American people, both as a group and individually.


Not everyone is on that page. But we are. Let's keep that in mind.

Just wondering, do you think that I am on that page?


Your "adapt or die" comment shows that you, at best,, do not care about the interests of at least some Americans.
He cares about long term interests.

It has been 50 years. We are already well into "long term".

The two of you, for some reason, don't want to consider the interests of the American working class, in the cost benefit analysis of our trade policy.
 
I like that we have established that we have the same goal, ie the best interests of the American people, both as a group and individually.


Not everyone is on that page. But we are. Let's keep that in mind.

Just wondering, do you think that I am on that page?


Your "adapt or die" comment shows that you, at best,, do not care about the interests of at least some Americans.

Actually, it shows the opposite. Wanting people to adapt and not just wait for the government to save them is looking out for their best interest. Call it though love! :113:


Saying that they can "die" is not looking out for their interests. It is dismissing them.
Die is a bit extreme, but it is in their long term interest to change and adapt.


It has been 50 years. Those that can adapt have. Many have instead literally died. Many others are just living lives that are much fucked by the policy.

Why do you want to ignore their interests, when we do the cost benefit analysis of trade policy?
 

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