Turley: Obama's "Become The Very Danger The Constitution Was Designed To Avoid"

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This is why Obama is the Worst President Ever for the U.S.: he is the type of President the Constitution was designed to prevent, hence is efforts to destroy it.

JONATHAN TURLEY: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The danger is quite severe. The problem with what the president is doing is that he's not simply posing a danger to the constitutional system. He's becoming the very danger the Constitution was designed to avoid. That is the concentration of power in every single branch.

This Newtonian orbit that the three branches exist in is a delicate one but it is designed to prevent this type of concentration. There is two trends going on which should be of equal concern to all members of Congress. One is that we have had the radical expansion of presidential powers under both President Bush and President Obama. We have what many once called an imperial presidency model of largely unchecked authority. And with that trend we also have the continued rise of this fourth branch. We have agencies that are quite large that issue regulations. The Supreme Court said recently that agencies could actually define their own or interpret their own jurisdiction.

Turley: Obama's "Become The Very Danger The Constitution Was Designed To Avoid" | Video | RealClearPolitics

Allow me to take this opportunity to encourage Republicans to initiate impeachment proceedings.

Right on cue...

 

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This is why Obama is the Worst President Ever for the U.S.: he is the type of President the Constitution was designed to prevent, hence is efforts to destroy it.

JONATHAN TURLEY: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The danger is quite severe. The problem with what the president is doing is that he's not simply posing a danger to the constitutional system. He's becoming the very danger the Constitution was designed to avoid. That is the concentration of power in every single branch.

This Newtonian orbit that the three branches exist in is a delicate one but it is designed to prevent this type of concentration. There is two trends going on which should be of equal concern to all members of Congress. One is that we have had the radical expansion of presidential powers under both President Bush and President Obama. We have what many once called an imperial presidency model of largely unchecked authority. And with that trend we also have the continued rise of this fourth branch. We have agencies that are quite large that issue regulations. The Supreme Court said recently that agencies could actually define their own or interpret their own jurisdiction.

Turley: Obama's "Become The Very Danger The Constitution Was Designed To Avoid" | Video | RealClearPolitics

yeah that hearing was not really covered by the MSM

wonder why

Because the MSM is in the business of doing stories that the public will actually watch or listen to or read.

Well, that's what you get when you cater to the low information, Kardashian crowd with attention spans of a gnat.

 

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Remember the old days, when connies had a hard on for Unitary Executive?

I said at the time that using the Unitary Executive theory and supporting it will be a precedent used by the next POTUS. They didn't care they only cared about right now.

Then Obama got his hands on the wheels NOW repubs see the errors of their ways only...its too late.

Sounds just like the Patriot Act don't it.

And it will be said in future about Citizens United

 

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This is why Obama is the Worst President Ever for the U.S.: he is the type of President the Constitution was designed to prevent, hence is efforts to destroy it.

JONATHAN TURLEY: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The danger is quite severe. The problem with what the president is doing is that he's not simply posing a danger to the constitutional system. He's becoming the very danger the Constitution was designed to avoid. That is the concentration of power in every single branch.

This Newtonian orbit that the three branches exist in is a delicate one but it is designed to prevent this type of concentration. There is two trends going on which should be of equal concern to all members of Congress. One is that we have had the radical expansion of presidential powers under both President Bush and President Obama. We have what many once called an imperial presidency model of largely unchecked authority. And with that trend we also have the continued rise of this fourth branch. We have agencies that are quite large that issue regulations. The Supreme Court said recently that agencies could actually define their own or interpret their own jurisdiction.

Turley: Obama's "Become The Very Danger The Constitution Was Designed To Avoid" | Video | RealClearPolitics

I see they left out Bush's name in the title, as did you in your topic title, even though Turley plainly referred to both Bush and Obama. RCP went out of its way to use a careful placement of the quote marks in its title just so they could exclude Bush from the headline.

You are confirming what I have said about faux conservatives who suddenly discovered the Constitution on January 20, 2009.

 

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I bet most of these faux conservatives have forgotten all about Bush's signing statements.

Hey, this is a great law Congress just passed, but I'm not going to follow the parts I don't like.

 

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I bet most of these faux conservatives have forgotten all about Bush's signing statements.

Hey, this is a great law Congress just passed, but I'm not going to follow the parts I don't like.

Many people have said that when Bush and Cheney came into office they were both intent on reasserting the power of the presidency and paring back the power of Congress. Many people have probably forgotten what I'm about to say (assuming they were alive at the time to remember), but a Democratic Congress would often challenge the power and the decisions of the president, even when he was a Democrat. That's why Clinton had such a hard time passing healthcare reform. Back in those days (and before) Congress routinely launched investigations into the decisions and operations of the executive branch. That all came to a screeching hault when Republicans were in control of Congress. Bush could do whatever he wanted with nary a peep out of Republicans.

So, Bush and Cheney expand executive power which will automatically set a precedent for anyone who follows in office. In this case, it just so happens to be President Obama. And the next thing you hear is the cry of conservatives lamenting the state of the nation and how Obama is circumventing the Constitution.

Calling it crocodile tears is an understatement.

 

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I bet most of these faux conservatives have forgotten all about Bush's signing statements.

Hey, this is a great law Congress just passed, but I'm not going to follow the parts I don't like.

Many people have said that when Bush and Cheney came into office they were both intent on reasserting the power of the presidency and paring back the power of Congress. Many people have probably forgotten what I'm about to say (assuming they were alive at the time to remember), but a Democratic Congress would often challenge the power and the decisions of the president, even when he was a Democrat. That's why Clinton had such a hard time passing healthcare reform. Back in those days (and before) Congress routinely launched investigations into the decisions and operations of the executive branch. That all came to a screeching hault when Republicans were in control of Congress. Bush could do whatever he wanted with nary a peep out of Republicans.

So, Bush and Cheney expand executive power which will automatically set a precedent for anyone who follows in office. In this case, it just so happens to be President Obama. And the next thing you hear is the cry of conservatives lamenting the state of the nation and how Obama is circumventing the Constitution.

Calling it crocodile tears is an understatement.

A tad unfair, imo. Bushii was such a disappointment to conservatives: he chose elective war and instutiionalized deficits by increased spending and tax cuts that created a bubble credit market.

Enter Obama, and his call for untity and universal care. The idea of a mandate went decades back with conservatives who didn't think govt itself was the problem. Medicare just has a soft mandate. Choosing not to enroll is a crazy stupid idea, so people sign up. But medicare itself isn't the end of the world. There's no insentive to conserve the use of it, and THATS the problem. But for any goper to address that, or to even suggest some of what Tom Coburn or Mike Barrazo suggested .... they'd get tea partied like Bennett in Utah.

Then when Obamacare went through, the right just exploded. Despite obama's incompetence, the gop decries any use of govt, and that's just a losing electoral strategy. The essential reason for the American Revolution was the American landowners needed more effective govt than Britain offered.

 

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Because executive expansion is a republican thing, but only when republican presidents are in office. Democrats tend to stay within the bounds set by the court cases they bring challenging the expansion of powers. The title suggests that Obama has become something unprecedented when in reality he is just using the powers he inherited from GWB. We keep going on about him because you people are apparently forgetting he ever existed and that you once loved him and viciously enabled all this shit.

SOMEONE has taken their eyes off the prize.

You really have no idea just how badly he has performed, huh?

I could list the 462 lies he's told.

Or maybe you've been too OCCUPIED to notice the 50 lies he's told.

Or the impressive Articles of Impeachment he's prompted others to document.

But, for now I'll just leave you with what sets him apart from ALL the other presidents so you will be able to force your mind to accommodate this new paradigm.

In fact, Barack Obama is SOOOO bad that he is even worse than NIXON!

Impeach him then immediately or shut the hell up about it. Write your congressman and demand impeachment hearings RIGHT THE FUCK NOW while you are still angry!!!

Your congressman will not because he/she knows that there is nothing to charge him with. Furthermore it is not a crime to simply offend you or to follow the agenda of his party and constituents. In fact not even lying is a crime unless it is under oath so deal with your horror of Obama with alcohol and pills as usual and have a nice day.

What? have you been too occupied screwin the pooch to pay attention to Obama's offenses, his crimes and misdemeanors?

Well enjoy this!

Benghazi attorney: What Obama just did absolutely illegal, impeachable

Former U.S. attorney Joe DiGenova, who currently represents several of the so-called “Benghazi whistleblowers,” affirmed that when President Obama told the White House Press Corps at his Friday news conference that “a sealed indictment” exists relative to the Benghazi attack, he committed an impeachable offense.

When the issue of the indictment was raised on WMAL’s Mornings On The Mall Monday during the DiGenova interview, he said the indictment “is indeed” supposed to remain under seal.

“We are now getting close to a series of statements by the president that puts him on the wrong road to impeachable offenses,” he said.

“At that news conference, the President of the United States violated a court order of the United States District Court for either the Eastern District of Virginia or the District of Columbia where this sealed indictment apparently exists,” DiGenova noted.

“He is not allowed to say that. A president can declassify a document, but he cannot unseal an indictment. Only a federal court can do that,” he explained. “Whoever is the chief judge of either one of those districts should issue a show cause order for the United States attorney for that district as to why the United States attorney or the president should not be held in contempt.”

The statement DiGenova is referring to is one Obama threw out to the press Friday.

‘‘There’s a sealed indictment,’’ Obama said at the White House news conference according to ABC News. ‘‘It’s sealed for a reason, but we are intent on capturing those who carried out this attack. And we’re going to stay on it until we get them.’’

DiGenova described that statement as “unbelievable,” and added, “This was from our professor-president — our so-called “constitutional scholar.” There’s just no doubt about it — it was illegal,” he emphasized.

“But the AP reporter, Julie Pace, who was on ‘Fox News Sunday’ said, ‘It was kind of unusual for the president to talk about a sealed indictment in a public setting.’

It wasn’t unusual; it was illegal.”

Listen to the full interview, courtesy of WMAL.

Benghazi attorney: What Obama just did absolutely illegal, impeachable - BizPac Review

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtmeo07cXGQ]Joe DiGenova on WMAL 8-12-13 - YouTube[/ame]

 

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yeah that hearing was not really covered by the MSM

wonder why

Because the MSM is in the business of doing stories that the public will actually watch or listen to or read.

Then the MSM is pretty bad at deciding what people will actually watch, CNN and MSNBC are tanking.

 

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Bump for the illegality of Obama's actions.

 

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This is why Obama is the Worst President Ever for the U.S.: he is the type of President the Constitution was designed to prevent, hence is efforts to destroy it.

JONATHAN TURLEY: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The danger is quite severe. The problem with what the president is doing is that he's not simply posing a danger to the constitutional system. He's becoming the very danger the Constitution was designed to avoid. That is the concentration of power in every single branch.

This Newtonian orbit that the three branches exist in is a delicate one but it is designed to prevent this type of concentration. There is two trends going on which should be of equal concern to all members of Congress. One is that we have had the radical expansion of presidential powers under both President Bush and President Obama. We have what many once called an imperial presidency model of largely unchecked authority. And with that trend we also have the continued rise of this fourth branch. We have agencies that are quite large that issue regulations. The Supreme Court said recently that agencies could actually define their own or interpret their own jurisdiction.

Turley: Obama's "Become The Very Danger The Constitution Was Designed To Avoid" | Video | RealClearPolitics

yeah that hearing was not really covered by the MSM

wonder why

Because the MSM is in the business of doing stories that the public will actually watch or listen to or read.

If the MSM had actually done their job Obama would have never been re-elected. Unfortunately we're finding out all the dirty deeds after the election...By design!

 

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Yikes. A little surprising seeing Turley say that, he's not a right winger.

Interesting.

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When I agree with Turley I like him, but...


...he is an alarmist extraordinaire

 

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This is why Obama is the Worst President Ever for the U.S.: he is the type of President the Constitution was designed to prevent, hence is efforts to destroy it.

JONATHAN TURLEY: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The danger is quite severe. The problem with what the president is doing is that he's not simply posing a danger to the constitutional system. He's becoming the very danger the Constitution was designed to avoid. That is the concentration of power in every single branch.

This Newtonian orbit that the three branches exist in is a delicate one but it is designed to prevent this type of concentration. There is two trends going on which should be of equal concern to all members of Congress. One is that we have had the radical expansion of presidential powers under both President Bush and President Obama. We have what many once called an imperial presidency model of largely unchecked authority. And with that trend we also have the continued rise of this fourth branch. We have agencies that are quite large that issue regulations. The Supreme Court said recently that agencies could actually define their own or interpret their own jurisdiction.

Turley: Obama's "Become The Very Danger The Constitution Was Designed To Avoid" | Video | RealClearPolitics

yeah that hearing was not really covered by the MSM

wonder why

It's an open conspiracy

House Committee on the Judiciary – Chairman

REP. BOB GOODLATTE (R-VA): Professor Turley, the constitution, the system of separated powers is not simply about stopping one branch of government from usurping another. It's about protecting the liberty of Americans from the dangers of concentrated government power. How does the president's unilateral modification of act of Congress affect both the balance of power between the political branches and the liberty interests of the American people?

JONATHAN TURLEY: Thank you, Mr. Chairman...

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GOP Hearing on Obama again? Geesh

 

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“There is two trends going on which should be of equal concern to all members of Congress,” he said. “One is that we have had the radical expansion of presidential powers under both President Bush and President Obama. We have what many once called an imperial presidency model of largely unchecked authority. And with that trend we also have the continued rise of this fourth branch. We have agencies that are quite large that issue regulations. The Supreme Court said recently that agencies could actually define their own or interpret their own jurisdiction.”
Read more at Liberal law professor: Obama is the danger

When lefties like Poop and CC are not gagging on something else, they should be gagging on this.

 

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The president's power grab - Los Angeles Times

Recently, a bizarre scene unfolded on the floor of the House of Representatives that would have shocked the framers of the Constitution. In his State of the Union address, President Obama announced that he had decided to go it alone in areas where Congress refused to act to his satisfaction. In a system of shared powers, one would expect an outcry or at least stony silence when a president promised to circumvent the legislative branch. Instead, many senators and representatives erupted in rapturous applause; they seemed delighted at the notion of a president assuming unprecedented and unchecked powers at their expense.

 

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yeah that hearing was not really covered by the MSM

wonder why

Because the MSM is in the business of doing stories that the public will actually watch or listen to or read.

If the MSM had actually done their job Obama would have never been re-elected. Unfortunately we're finding out all the dirty deeds after the election...By design!

Well, the MSM does have a job....keeping libs in office...I guess.

 

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This is why Obama is the Worst President Ever for the U.S.: he is the type of President the Constitution was designed to prevent, hence is efforts to destroy it.

JONATHAN TURLEY: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The danger is quite severe. The problem with what the president is doing is that he's not simply posing a danger to the constitutional system. He's becoming the very danger the Constitution was designed to avoid. That is the concentration of power in every single branch.

This Newtonian orbit that the three branches exist in is a delicate one but it is designed to prevent this type of concentration. There is two trends going on which should be of equal concern to all members of Congress. One is that we have had the radical expansion of presidential powers under both President Bush and President Obama. We have what many once called an imperial presidency model of largely unchecked authority. And with that trend we also have the continued rise of this fourth branch. We have agencies that are quite large that issue regulations. The Supreme Court said recently that agencies could actually define their own or interpret their own jurisdiction.

Turley: Obama's "Become The Very Danger The Constitution Was Designed To Avoid" | Video | RealClearPolitics

yeah that hearing was not really covered by the MSM

wonder why

It's an open conspiracy

House Committee on the Judiciary – Chairman

REP. BOB GOODLATTE (R-VA): Professor Turley, the constitution, the system of separated powers is not simply about stopping one branch of government from usurping another. It's about protecting the liberty of Americans from the dangers of concentrated government power. How does the president's unilateral modification of act of Congress affect both the balance of power between the political branches and the liberty interests of the American people?

JONATHAN TURLEY: Thank you, Mr. Chairman...

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GOP Hearing on Obama again? Geesh

Turley would not be there normally.

He's a huge Obama supporter.

His layout of what was happening and it's implications is something that is now starting to show up.

Obama keeps bleating about bypassing congress.

He's an FDR clone.

We should dump ass overboard.

 

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Any truly honest Liberal is horrified about Obama's shredding of the Constitution...and the ones who apply political considerations should think about what happens when a Dem is no longer in control of the Executive Branch.