Twitter Attacks Lawyer Representing American Patriot, Kyle Rittenhouse

[Norman]

Lawyers explain the case.

 

[Norman]

He works as a lifeguard. The place where kyle was putting out an arson fire and where the convicted pedo began attacking him. The man owned three businesses in Kenosha, two were burned down by YOUR heroes.

He wanted to save his last one. Funny how you ignore the fact YOUR heroes came to Kenosha from out of state to burn the place down.

Fuck you are a moron.

No, he is evil.

(Nod)

 

[otto105]

Since when is a murderer a "patriot"?

He is when he is a Rightwinger.

Self-defense is not murder, as you will soon learn.

When the police did not show up to defend the community against the Molotov bombers, this 17 year old did. A hero, he probably saved lives, and children from the pedophile.

You wanted vigilante justice now you got it, real justice as well. Be happy with it.

Ah yes...the fictional Molotov. He is no hero, he is just another killer.

The Molotov that was thrown at him is now fictional?

What in the fuck?

You can always guarantee these 3rd worldists who are incapable of living productive life in modern society to back the pedophiles and criminals and root against the Americans and American heroes.

Most people don’t confuse Molotov cocktails with plastic bags and statutory rape with pedophilia.

Most people realize that a dde who molested five boys, none older than age 11, is, in fect, a pedophile.

Pre-sentence report...

Agree. All that has come out and been substantiated over time. The guy was a piece of crap, no wonder his sister said she did not want a go fund me done for him. But even pieces of crap have rights under the law. None of this was known at the time of the incident. It isn’t up to mobs to execute people and it isn’t up to vigilantes to pass sentence on someone outside the law.

The arguments in this case keep evolving.

First, insufficient evidence as to what happened.
Then, claims of Molotov cocktail and self defense.
Then criminal record comes out.
Then killing justified because Rosenbaum is a piece of crap.

The ONLY justification for a civilian killing another is self defense or defense of another. Not to pass judgement of a person and decide he or she is worthy of death.

That is not lawlesshe’s.

And frankly, makes me wonder if we are going to enter into an era of an eye for an eye of extrajudicial killings.

Rittenhouse killed two, he and his lawyer is getting death threats.
Reinoehl Killed one, his estranged sister and her family are getting death threats.

Two increasingly radicalized ideologies clashing in our cities. No one in leadership toning down the rhetoric.

He wasn't executed. He was killed while trying to murder a 17 year old. His actions placed him in front of that muzzle.

Here you are, finally acknowledging that the guy was a fucking pervert, after defending him for days even after it was WELL documented he was a fucking violent felon, and now, here you are attacking a 17 year old for defending himself and accusing that 17 year old of executing a poor defenceless protester.

It was NOT well documented to begin with. Linking to a state sex offender registry that doesn’t show hI’m in it is not well documented.

I don’t know about you, but I really try to make sure of the facts before accusing dead people of serious crimes because the first thing you guys do is immediately try shred the character of the victims. Dead people can not defend themselves. First thing you guys do, every time as if that justifies the killing.

And you still are trying to claim all three were violent felons, when one was only convicted of a misdeamenor (as far as I can find) along the same lines as Kyle, and the other was trying to stop an active shooter (from the perspective he saw at the situation from).

I did not say he executed them. I said killed.

So get this through your skull, the 17 year old has NO prior record, and the THREE people he shot, were ALL convicted felons.

Prior record changes nothing. It has no bearing in and of itself on whether or not you have the right to kill someone. A record does not give the right to kill. ONLY self defense does.

And Kyle CAN make a reasonable for self defense. Likewise a reasonable argument can be made that Huber was trying to take down an active shooter(an action you guys would call heroic if he was on of yours). But Huber is dead. Can’t speak for himself.

On the felon bit. You claim all three are “convicted felons” but all I can find on Grosskreutz is having a gun while intoxicated. You have something else?

And you insist on attacking the ONE person in this drama who isn't a CONVICTED FELON.

Are you seriously making an argument that it is ok for a “non-felon” can go and shoot someone, and get away with it solely because the victim was a felon?

Kyle will likely walk on the most serious charges. Self defense is reasonable with Rosenbaum and Huber. But less so with the guy he wounded, who had his hands in the air and was not pointing the gun at Rittenhouse when Rittenhouse shot him. And he won’t walk on the charge of illegal possession of a fire arm.

Wake. The. Fuck. Up.

I do not support lawlessness or vigilanteism.

I can't buy the self-defense argument in these circumstances, particularly since Huber and Grosskreutz were trying to take down an active shooter. Poor Mr. Huber tried to do it unarmed. But right-wingers yell "self defense!" every damned time someone other than a right-winger gets shot. This is really getting boring. It totally lacks credibility.

The argument that Rittenhouse was a hero for shooting Rosenbaum because Rosenbaum had a record is totally absurd, since Rittenhouse could not have known of it at the time. To the best of my knowledge, the two did not know each other. One cannot seriously attribute a motive to a shooter who had no knowledge of his victim. The people contending this are complete assholes. There is nothing to suggest that he knew any of the three people he shot.

The Kenosha cops could have prevented this whole thing if they had just done their jobs and cleared the streets. The cops in the armed vehicles had the last clear chance. Talk about cops refusing to protect their city.

I can buy the self defense argument when you try to look at from Rittenhouse’s perspective.

Shooting #1...don’t know for sure, let the courts decide that one.

Shooting #2...Huber was trying to disarm him. He had no way of knowing Huber’s intentions.

Shooting #3...the guy had a gun, but had his hands in the air, gun pointing up, backing away. The claim is Kyle thought he made a threatening move and shot him.

It is all about perspective, and those who proclaim Kyle a hero Or a villain, are only willing to see ONE perspective. And keep in mind this is a 17 yr old NOT a seasoned adult.

Here is another perspective.

Huber and Grosskreutz (thoroughly demonized and deemed worthy of killing by thr right) .... what was THEIR perspective?

Gunshots.

Someone yelling “hey, that guy shot someone” and seeing a guy jogging down the street with a gun.

Huber and Grosskreutz trying time take down an active shooter.

If Huber and Grosskreutz were rightwing militants and Kyle a protester...who would would the rabid right label a hero? The villain? They would all over that video of Kyle punching the girl.

It is pretty fucked up frankly. The only real villains are the people who allowed an illegally armed 17 yr old to be in that situation In the first place.

And all the while you ignore the simple fact that the 17 year old was RUNNING AWAY!.

How can you be so blind?

Yes. An active shooter running away. Don‘t brave people try to STOP active shooters from escaping?

Or does that depend on the ideologies involved?

An active shooter attacks random people. The 17 year old only shot people ATTACKING HIM.

Your rampant bias and intellectual dishonesty are quite shocking.

I think you have your own rampant bias and intellectual dishonesty here.

As far as anyone could know while this was happening, he was an active shooter. No one knew why he shot anyone, only that he did. From the perception of the people there (many of whom were fleeing and screaming) there was an active shooter. I doubt the dead man who tried to take him down had time to first run around to where the shooting occurred, interview the witness, and review all the videos first.

No one with a brain could come to the conclusion he was an active shooter because HE WASN'T SHOOTING! He only fired the rifle when he was forced to.

For fucks sake there are loads of video that show this to be true.

Isn’t hindsight just fantastic? Maybe you could lend some to the people pursuing the killer and remind them that they should reviewed all those videos before trying to apprehend a killer.

Is there any circumstance when you side with people defending their property over convicted pedophiles trying to attack it?

The far left insanity is incredible. Truly, I want these idiots out and far away from my community. A sick, sick bunch.

The leftists are now after a person who defended his community, instead of the MYRIADS of rioters who have killed dozens and dozens of people. No word about that, no problem with that. It just shows, they have completely lost it.

What "property" did kyle from Antioch own in Kenosha?

Did kyle from Antioch live in Kenosha?

Who has killed what dozens?

Kyle worked in Kenosha. He was friends with the business owner whose place he was defending.

He worked where?

Who was his friend and what business?

He works as a lifeguard. The place where kyle was putting out an arson fire and where the convicted pedo began attacking him. The man owned three businesses in Kenosha, two were burned down by YOUR heroes.

He wanted to save his last one. Funny how you ignore the fact YOUR heroes came to Kenosha from out of state to burn the place down.

Fuck you are a moron.

First of all, nothing in that story is remotely true. Second, it doesn't even support your fairytale version of kyle from Antioch.

And lastly, how's the weather in Russia?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Since when is a murderer a "patriot"?

He is when he is a Rightwinger.

Self-defense is not murder, as you will soon learn.

When the police did not show up to defend the community against the Molotov bombers, this 17 year old did. A hero, he probably saved lives, and children from the pedophile.

You wanted vigilante justice now you got it, real justice as well. Be happy with it.

Ah yes...the fictional Molotov. He is no hero, he is just another killer.

The Molotov that was thrown at him is now fictional?

What in the fuck?

You can always guarantee these 3rd worldists who are incapable of living productive life in modern society to back the pedophiles and criminals and root against the Americans and American heroes.

Most people don’t confuse Molotov cocktails with plastic bags and statutory rape with pedophilia.

Most people realize that a dde who molested five boys, none older than age 11, is, in fect, a pedophile.

Pre-sentence report...

Agree. All that has come out and been substantiated over time. The guy was a piece of crap, no wonder his sister said she did not want a go fund me done for him. But even pieces of crap have rights under the law. None of this was known at the time of the incident. It isn’t up to mobs to execute people and it isn’t up to vigilantes to pass sentence on someone outside the law.

The arguments in this case keep evolving.

First, insufficient evidence as to what happened.
Then, claims of Molotov cocktail and self defense.
Then criminal record comes out.
Then killing justified because Rosenbaum is a piece of crap.

The ONLY justification for a civilian killing another is self defense or defense of another. Not to pass judgement of a person and decide he or she is worthy of death.

That is not lawlesshe’s.

And frankly, makes me wonder if we are going to enter into an era of an eye for an eye of extrajudicial killings.

Rittenhouse killed two, he and his lawyer is getting death threats.
Reinoehl Killed one, his estranged sister and her family are getting death threats.

Two increasingly radicalized ideologies clashing in our cities. No one in leadership toning down the rhetoric.

He wasn't executed. He was killed while trying to murder a 17 year old. His actions placed him in front of that muzzle.

Here you are, finally acknowledging that the guy was a fucking pervert, after defending him for days even after it was WELL documented he was a fucking violent felon, and now, here you are attacking a 17 year old for defending himself and accusing that 17 year old of executing a poor defenceless protester.

It was NOT well documented to begin with. Linking to a state sex offender registry that doesn’t show hI’m in it is not well documented.

I don’t know about you, but I really try to make sure of the facts before accusing dead people of serious crimes because the first thing you guys do is immediately try shred the character of the victims. Dead people can not defend themselves. First thing you guys do, every time as if that justifies the killing.

And you still are trying to claim all three were violent felons, when one was only convicted of a misdeamenor (as far as I can find) along the same lines as Kyle, and the other was trying to stop an active shooter (from the perspective he saw at the situation from).

I did not say he executed them. I said killed.

So get this through your skull, the 17 year old has NO prior record, and the THREE people he shot, were ALL convicted felons.

Prior record changes nothing. It has no bearing in and of itself on whether or not you have the right to kill someone. A record does not give the right to kill. ONLY self defense does.

And Kyle CAN make a reasonable for self defense. Likewise a reasonable argument can be made that Huber was trying to take down an active shooter(an action you guys would call heroic if he was on of yours). But Huber is dead. Can’t speak for himself.

On the felon bit. You claim all three are “convicted felons” but all I can find on Grosskreutz is having a gun while intoxicated. You have something else?

And you insist on attacking the ONE person in this drama who isn't a CONVICTED FELON.

Are you seriously making an argument that it is ok for a “non-felon” can go and shoot someone, and get away with it solely because the victim was a felon?

Kyle will likely walk on the most serious charges. Self defense is reasonable with Rosenbaum and Huber. But less so with the guy he wounded, who had his hands in the air and was not pointing the gun at Rittenhouse when Rittenhouse shot him. And he won’t walk on the charge of illegal possession of a fire arm.

Wake. The. Fuck. Up.

I do not support lawlessness or vigilanteism.

I can't buy the self-defense argument in these circumstances, particularly since Huber and Grosskreutz were trying to take down an active shooter. Poor Mr. Huber tried to do it unarmed. But right-wingers yell "self defense!" every damned time someone other than a right-winger gets shot. This is really getting boring. It totally lacks credibility.

The argument that Rittenhouse was a hero for shooting Rosenbaum because Rosenbaum had a record is totally absurd, since Rittenhouse could not have known of it at the time. To the best of my knowledge, the two did not know each other. One cannot seriously attribute a motive to a shooter who had no knowledge of his victim. The people contending this are complete assholes. There is nothing to suggest that he knew any of the three people he shot.

The Kenosha cops could have prevented this whole thing if they had just done their jobs and cleared the streets. The cops in the armed vehicles had the last clear chance. Talk about cops refusing to protect their city.

I can buy the self defense argument when you try to look at from Rittenhouse’s perspective.

Shooting #1...don’t know for sure, let the courts decide that one.

Shooting #2...Huber was trying to disarm him. He had no way of knowing Huber’s intentions.

Shooting #3...the guy had a gun, but had his hands in the air, gun pointing up, backing away. The claim is Kyle thought he made a threatening move and shot him.

It is all about perspective, and those who proclaim Kyle a hero Or a villain, are only willing to see ONE perspective. And keep in mind this is a 17 yr old NOT a seasoned adult.

Here is another perspective.

Huber and Grosskreutz (thoroughly demonized and deemed worthy of killing by thr right) .... what was THEIR perspective?

Gunshots.

Someone yelling “hey, that guy shot someone” and seeing a guy jogging down the street with a gun.

Huber and Grosskreutz trying time take down an active shooter.

If Huber and Grosskreutz were rightwing militants and Kyle a protester...who would would the rabid right label a hero? The villain? They would all over that video of Kyle punching the girl.

It is pretty fucked up frankly. The only real villains are the people who allowed an illegally armed 17 yr old to be in that situation In the first place.

And all the while you ignore the simple fact that the 17 year old was RUNNING AWAY!.

How can you be so blind?

Yes. An active shooter running away. Don‘t brave people try to STOP active shooters from escaping?

Or does that depend on the ideologies involved?

An active shooter attacks random people. The 17 year old only shot people ATTACKING HIM.

Your rampant bias and intellectual dishonesty are quite shocking.

I think you have your own rampant bias and intellectual dishonesty here.

As far as anyone could know while this was happening, he was an active shooter. No one knew why he shot anyone, only that he did. From the perception of the people there (many of whom were fleeing and screaming) there was an active shooter. I doubt the dead man who tried to take him down had time to first run around to where the shooting occurred, interview the witness, and review all the videos first.

No one with a brain could come to the conclusion he was an active shooter because HE WASN'T SHOOTING! He only fired the rifle when he was forced to.

For fucks sake there are loads of video that show this to be true.

Isn’t hindsight just fantastic? Maybe you could lend some to the people pursuing the killer and remind them that they should reviewed all those videos before trying to apprehend a killer.

Ya two criminals that were actively in the process of committing MORE crimes were just concerned citizens. Go peddle your stupidity to someone that is retarded enough to buy it.

 

[otto105]

Lawyers explain the case.

"If I miss any facts"... like most of them?

 

[otto105]

Since when is a murderer a "patriot"?

He is when he is a Rightwinger.

Self-defense is not murder, as you will soon learn.

When the police did not show up to defend the community against the Molotov bombers, this 17 year old did. A hero, he probably saved lives, and children from the pedophile.

You wanted vigilante justice now you got it, real justice as well. Be happy with it.

Ah yes...the fictional Molotov. He is no hero, he is just another killer.

The Molotov that was thrown at him is now fictional?

What in the fuck?

You can always guarantee these 3rd worldists who are incapable of living productive life in modern society to back the pedophiles and criminals and root against the Americans and American heroes.

Most people don’t confuse Molotov cocktails with plastic bags and statutory rape with pedophilia.

Most people realize that a dde who molested five boys, none older than age 11, is, in fect, a pedophile.

Pre-sentence report...

Agree. All that has come out and been substantiated over time. The guy was a piece of crap, no wonder his sister said she did not want a go fund me done for him. But even pieces of crap have rights under the law. None of this was known at the time of the incident. It isn’t up to mobs to execute people and it isn’t up to vigilantes to pass sentence on someone outside the law.

The arguments in this case keep evolving.

First, insufficient evidence as to what happened.
Then, claims of Molotov cocktail and self defense.
Then criminal record comes out.
Then killing justified because Rosenbaum is a piece of crap.

The ONLY justification for a civilian killing another is self defense or defense of another. Not to pass judgement of a person and decide he or she is worthy of death.

That is not lawlesshe’s.

And frankly, makes me wonder if we are going to enter into an era of an eye for an eye of extrajudicial killings.

Rittenhouse killed two, he and his lawyer is getting death threats.
Reinoehl Killed one, his estranged sister and her family are getting death threats.

Two increasingly radicalized ideologies clashing in our cities. No one in leadership toning down the rhetoric.

He wasn't executed. He was killed while trying to murder a 17 year old. His actions placed him in front of that muzzle.

Here you are, finally acknowledging that the guy was a fucking pervert, after defending him for days even after it was WELL documented he was a fucking violent felon, and now, here you are attacking a 17 year old for defending himself and accusing that 17 year old of executing a poor defenceless protester.

It was NOT well documented to begin with. Linking to a state sex offender registry that doesn’t show hI’m in it is not well documented.

I don’t know about you, but I really try to make sure of the facts before accusing dead people of serious crimes because the first thing you guys do is immediately try shred the character of the victims. Dead people can not defend themselves. First thing you guys do, every time as if that justifies the killing.

And you still are trying to claim all three were violent felons, when one was only convicted of a misdeamenor (as far as I can find) along the same lines as Kyle, and the other was trying to stop an active shooter (from the perspective he saw at the situation from).

I did not say he executed them. I said killed.

So get this through your skull, the 17 year old has NO prior record, and the THREE people he shot, were ALL convicted felons.

Prior record changes nothing. It has no bearing in and of itself on whether or not you have the right to kill someone. A record does not give the right to kill. ONLY self defense does.

And Kyle CAN make a reasonable for self defense. Likewise a reasonable argument can be made that Huber was trying to take down an active shooter(an action you guys would call heroic if he was on of yours). But Huber is dead. Can’t speak for himself.

On the felon bit. You claim all three are “convicted felons” but all I can find on Grosskreutz is having a gun while intoxicated. You have something else?

And you insist on attacking the ONE person in this drama who isn't a CONVICTED FELON.

Are you seriously making an argument that it is ok for a “non-felon” can go and shoot someone, and get away with it solely because the victim was a felon?

Kyle will likely walk on the most serious charges. Self defense is reasonable with Rosenbaum and Huber. But less so with the guy he wounded, who had his hands in the air and was not pointing the gun at Rittenhouse when Rittenhouse shot him. And he won’t walk on the charge of illegal possession of a fire arm.

Wake. The. Fuck. Up.

I do not support lawlessness or vigilanteism.

I can't buy the self-defense argument in these circumstances, particularly since Huber and Grosskreutz were trying to take down an active shooter. Poor Mr. Huber tried to do it unarmed. But right-wingers yell "self defense!" every damned time someone other than a right-winger gets shot. This is really getting boring. It totally lacks credibility.

The argument that Rittenhouse was a hero for shooting Rosenbaum because Rosenbaum had a record is totally absurd, since Rittenhouse could not have known of it at the time. To the best of my knowledge, the two did not know each other. One cannot seriously attribute a motive to a shooter who had no knowledge of his victim. The people contending this are complete assholes. There is nothing to suggest that he knew any of the three people he shot.

The Kenosha cops could have prevented this whole thing if they had just done their jobs and cleared the streets. The cops in the armed vehicles had the last clear chance. Talk about cops refusing to protect their city.

I can buy the self defense argument when you try to look at from Rittenhouse’s perspective.

Shooting #1...don’t know for sure, let the courts decide that one.

Shooting #2...Huber was trying to disarm him. He had no way of knowing Huber’s intentions.

Shooting #3...the guy had a gun, but had his hands in the air, gun pointing up, backing away. The claim is Kyle thought he made a threatening move and shot him.

It is all about perspective, and those who proclaim Kyle a hero Or a villain, are only willing to see ONE perspective. And keep in mind this is a 17 yr old NOT a seasoned adult.

Here is another perspective.

Huber and Grosskreutz (thoroughly demonized and deemed worthy of killing by thr right) .... what was THEIR perspective?

Gunshots.

Someone yelling “hey, that guy shot someone” and seeing a guy jogging down the street with a gun.

Huber and Grosskreutz trying time take down an active shooter.

If Huber and Grosskreutz were rightwing militants and Kyle a protester...who would would the rabid right label a hero? The villain? They would all over that video of Kyle punching the girl.

It is pretty fucked up frankly. The only real villains are the people who allowed an illegally armed 17 yr old to be in that situation In the first place.

And all the while you ignore the simple fact that the 17 year old was RUNNING AWAY!.

How can you be so blind?

Yes. An active shooter running away. Don‘t brave people try to STOP active shooters from escaping?

Or does that depend on the ideologies involved?

An active shooter attacks random people. The 17 year old only shot people ATTACKING HIM.

Your rampant bias and intellectual dishonesty are quite shocking.

I think you have your own rampant bias and intellectual dishonesty here.

As far as anyone could know while this was happening, he was an active shooter. No one knew why he shot anyone, only that he did. From the perception of the people there (many of whom were fleeing and screaming) there was an active shooter. I doubt the dead man who tried to take him down had time to first run around to where the shooting occurred, interview the witness, and review all the videos first.

No one with a brain could come to the conclusion he was an active shooter because HE WASN'T SHOOTING! He only fired the rifle when he was forced to.

For fucks sake there are loads of video that show this to be true.

Isn’t hindsight just fantastic? Maybe you could lend some to the people pursuing the killer and remind them that they should reviewed all those videos before trying to apprehend a killer.

Ya two criminals that were actively in the process of committing MORE crimes were just concerned citizens. Go peddle your stupidity to someone that is retarded enough to buy it.

What crime were they "actively" committing?

 

[Norman]

Lawyers explain the case.

"If I miss any facts"... like most of them?

How about watching the entire video, that was just a brief summary. He is interviewing the other lawyer.

Leftists can always be detected by their low status snark. Instant loser tell. And no surprise, as result, you come in defense to the pedo and against the American. The facts of the case don't matter, because the low status pedo must be right and the high status Alpha must be wrong.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Since when is a murderer a "patriot"?

He is when he is a Rightwinger.

Self-defense is not murder, as you will soon learn.

When the police did not show up to defend the community against the Molotov bombers, this 17 year old did. A hero, he probably saved lives, and children from the pedophile.

You wanted vigilante justice now you got it, real justice as well. Be happy with it.

Ah yes...the fictional Molotov. He is no hero, he is just another killer.

The Molotov that was thrown at him is now fictional?

What in the fuck?

You can always guarantee these 3rd worldists who are incapable of living productive life in modern society to back the pedophiles and criminals and root against the Americans and American heroes.

Most people don’t confuse Molotov cocktails with plastic bags and statutory rape with pedophilia.

Most people realize that a dde who molested five boys, none older than age 11, is, in fect, a pedophile.

Pre-sentence report...

Agree. All that has come out and been substantiated over time. The guy was a piece of crap, no wonder his sister said she did not want a go fund me done for him. But even pieces of crap have rights under the law. None of this was known at the time of the incident. It isn’t up to mobs to execute people and it isn’t up to vigilantes to pass sentence on someone outside the law.

The arguments in this case keep evolving.

First, insufficient evidence as to what happened.
Then, claims of Molotov cocktail and self defense.
Then criminal record comes out.
Then killing justified because Rosenbaum is a piece of crap.

The ONLY justification for a civilian killing another is self defense or defense of another. Not to pass judgement of a person and decide he or she is worthy of death.

That is not lawlesshe’s.

And frankly, makes me wonder if we are going to enter into an era of an eye for an eye of extrajudicial killings.

Rittenhouse killed two, he and his lawyer is getting death threats.
Reinoehl Killed one, his estranged sister and her family are getting death threats.

Two increasingly radicalized ideologies clashing in our cities. No one in leadership toning down the rhetoric.

He wasn't executed. He was killed while trying to murder a 17 year old. His actions placed him in front of that muzzle.

Here you are, finally acknowledging that the guy was a fucking pervert, after defending him for days even after it was WELL documented he was a fucking violent felon, and now, here you are attacking a 17 year old for defending himself and accusing that 17 year old of executing a poor defenceless protester.

It was NOT well documented to begin with. Linking to a state sex offender registry that doesn’t show hI’m in it is not well documented.

I don’t know about you, but I really try to make sure of the facts before accusing dead people of serious crimes because the first thing you guys do is immediately try shred the character of the victims. Dead people can not defend themselves. First thing you guys do, every time as if that justifies the killing.

And you still are trying to claim all three were violent felons, when one was only convicted of a misdeamenor (as far as I can find) along the same lines as Kyle, and the other was trying to stop an active shooter (from the perspective he saw at the situation from).

I did not say he executed them. I said killed.

So get this through your skull, the 17 year old has NO prior record, and the THREE people he shot, were ALL convicted felons.

Prior record changes nothing. It has no bearing in and of itself on whether or not you have the right to kill someone. A record does not give the right to kill. ONLY self defense does.

And Kyle CAN make a reasonable for self defense. Likewise a reasonable argument can be made that Huber was trying to take down an active shooter(an action you guys would call heroic if he was on of yours). But Huber is dead. Can’t speak for himself.

On the felon bit. You claim all three are “convicted felons” but all I can find on Grosskreutz is having a gun while intoxicated. You have something else?

And you insist on attacking the ONE person in this drama who isn't a CONVICTED FELON.

Are you seriously making an argument that it is ok for a “non-felon” can go and shoot someone, and get away with it solely because the victim was a felon?

Kyle will likely walk on the most serious charges. Self defense is reasonable with Rosenbaum and Huber. But less so with the guy he wounded, who had his hands in the air and was not pointing the gun at Rittenhouse when Rittenhouse shot him. And he won’t walk on the charge of illegal possession of a fire arm.

Wake. The. Fuck. Up.

I do not support lawlessness or vigilanteism.

I can't buy the self-defense argument in these circumstances, particularly since Huber and Grosskreutz were trying to take down an active shooter. Poor Mr. Huber tried to do it unarmed. But right-wingers yell "self defense!" every damned time someone other than a right-winger gets shot. This is really getting boring. It totally lacks credibility.

The argument that Rittenhouse was a hero for shooting Rosenbaum because Rosenbaum had a record is totally absurd, since Rittenhouse could not have known of it at the time. To the best of my knowledge, the two did not know each other. One cannot seriously attribute a motive to a shooter who had no knowledge of his victim. The people contending this are complete assholes. There is nothing to suggest that he knew any of the three people he shot.

The Kenosha cops could have prevented this whole thing if they had just done their jobs and cleared the streets. The cops in the armed vehicles had the last clear chance. Talk about cops refusing to protect their city.

I can buy the self defense argument when you try to look at from Rittenhouse’s perspective.

Shooting #1...don’t know for sure, let the courts decide that one.

Shooting #2...Huber was trying to disarm him. He had no way of knowing Huber’s intentions.

Shooting #3...the guy had a gun, but had his hands in the air, gun pointing up, backing away. The claim is Kyle thought he made a threatening move and shot him.

It is all about perspective, and those who proclaim Kyle a hero Or a villain, are only willing to see ONE perspective. And keep in mind this is a 17 yr old NOT a seasoned adult.

Here is another perspective.

Huber and Grosskreutz (thoroughly demonized and deemed worthy of killing by thr right) .... what was THEIR perspective?

Gunshots.

Someone yelling “hey, that guy shot someone” and seeing a guy jogging down the street with a gun.

Huber and Grosskreutz trying time take down an active shooter.

If Huber and Grosskreutz were rightwing militants and Kyle a protester...who would would the rabid right label a hero? The villain? They would all over that video of Kyle punching the girl.

It is pretty fucked up frankly. The only real villains are the people who allowed an illegally armed 17 yr old to be in that situation In the first place.

And all the while you ignore the simple fact that the 17 year old was RUNNING AWAY!.

How can you be so blind?

Yes. An active shooter running away. Don‘t brave people try to STOP active shooters from escaping?

Or does that depend on the ideologies involved?

An active shooter attacks random people. The 17 year old only shot people ATTACKING HIM.

Your rampant bias and intellectual dishonesty are quite shocking.

I think you have your own rampant bias and intellectual dishonesty here.

As far as anyone could know while this was happening, he was an active shooter. No one knew why he shot anyone, only that he did. From the perception of the people there (many of whom were fleeing and screaming) there was an active shooter. I doubt the dead man who tried to take him down had time to first run around to where the shooting occurred, interview the witness, and review all the videos first.

No one with a brain could come to the conclusion he was an active shooter because HE WASN'T SHOOTING! He only fired the rifle when he was forced to.

For fucks sake there are loads of video that show this to be true.

Isn’t hindsight just fantastic? Maybe you could lend some to the people pursuing the killer and remind them that they should reviewed all those videos before trying to apprehend a killer.

Ya two criminals that were actively in the process of committing MORE crimes were just concerned citizens. Go peddle your stupidity to someone that is retarded enough to buy it.

What crime were they "actively" committing?

Rioting Looting Burning, and one of them was Illegal armed convicted Felons can not possess own or carry firearms.

 

[otto105]

Lawyers explain the case.

Can somebody post who gave kyle from Antioch the authority as a militia member to enforce anything in Kenosha.

 

[Norman]

Since when is a murderer a "patriot"?

He is when he is a Rightwinger.

Self-defense is not murder, as you will soon learn.

When the police did not show up to defend the community against the Molotov bombers, this 17 year old did. A hero, he probably saved lives, and children from the pedophile.

You wanted vigilante justice now you got it, real justice as well. Be happy with it.

Ah yes...the fictional Molotov. He is no hero, he is just another killer.

The Molotov that was thrown at him is now fictional?

What in the fuck?

You can always guarantee these 3rd worldists who are incapable of living productive life in modern society to back the pedophiles and criminals and root against the Americans and American heroes.

Most people don’t confuse Molotov cocktails with plastic bags and statutory rape with pedophilia.

Most people realize that a dde who molested five boys, none older than age 11, is, in fect, a pedophile.

Pre-sentence report...

Agree. All that has come out and been substantiated over time. The guy was a piece of crap, no wonder his sister said she did not want a go fund me done for him. But even pieces of crap have rights under the law. None of this was known at the time of the incident. It isn’t up to mobs to execute people and it isn’t up to vigilantes to pass sentence on someone outside the law.

The arguments in this case keep evolving.

First, insufficient evidence as to what happened.
Then, claims of Molotov cocktail and self defense.
Then criminal record comes out.
Then killing justified because Rosenbaum is a piece of crap.

The ONLY justification for a civilian killing another is self defense or defense of another. Not to pass judgement of a person and decide he or she is worthy of death.

That is not lawlesshe’s.

And frankly, makes me wonder if we are going to enter into an era of an eye for an eye of extrajudicial killings.

Rittenhouse killed two, he and his lawyer is getting death threats.
Reinoehl Killed one, his estranged sister and her family are getting death threats.

Two increasingly radicalized ideologies clashing in our cities. No one in leadership toning down the rhetoric.

He wasn't executed. He was killed while trying to murder a 17 year old. His actions placed him in front of that muzzle.

Here you are, finally acknowledging that the guy was a fucking pervert, after defending him for days even after it was WELL documented he was a fucking violent felon, and now, here you are attacking a 17 year old for defending himself and accusing that 17 year old of executing a poor defenceless protester.

It was NOT well documented to begin with. Linking to a state sex offender registry that doesn’t show hI’m in it is not well documented.

I don’t know about you, but I really try to make sure of the facts before accusing dead people of serious crimes because the first thing you guys do is immediately try shred the character of the victims. Dead people can not defend themselves. First thing you guys do, every time as if that justifies the killing.

And you still are trying to claim all three were violent felons, when one was only convicted of a misdeamenor (as far as I can find) along the same lines as Kyle, and the other was trying to stop an active shooter (from the perspective he saw at the situation from).

I did not say he executed them. I said killed.

So get this through your skull, the 17 year old has NO prior record, and the THREE people he shot, were ALL convicted felons.

Prior record changes nothing. It has no bearing in and of itself on whether or not you have the right to kill someone. A record does not give the right to kill. ONLY self defense does.

And Kyle CAN make a reasonable for self defense. Likewise a reasonable argument can be made that Huber was trying to take down an active shooter(an action you guys would call heroic if he was on of yours). But Huber is dead. Can’t speak for himself.

On the felon bit. You claim all three are “convicted felons” but all I can find on Grosskreutz is having a gun while intoxicated. You have something else?

And you insist on attacking the ONE person in this drama who isn't a CONVICTED FELON.

Are you seriously making an argument that it is ok for a “non-felon” can go and shoot someone, and get away with it solely because the victim was a felon?

Kyle will likely walk on the most serious charges. Self defense is reasonable with Rosenbaum and Huber. But less so with the guy he wounded, who had his hands in the air and was not pointing the gun at Rittenhouse when Rittenhouse shot him. And he won’t walk on the charge of illegal possession of a fire arm.

Wake. The. Fuck. Up.

I do not support lawlessness or vigilanteism.

I can't buy the self-defense argument in these circumstances, particularly since Huber and Grosskreutz were trying to take down an active shooter. Poor Mr. Huber tried to do it unarmed. But right-wingers yell "self defense!" every damned time someone other than a right-winger gets shot. This is really getting boring. It totally lacks credibility.

The argument that Rittenhouse was a hero for shooting Rosenbaum because Rosenbaum had a record is totally absurd, since Rittenhouse could not have known of it at the time. To the best of my knowledge, the two did not know each other. One cannot seriously attribute a motive to a shooter who had no knowledge of his victim. The people contending this are complete assholes. There is nothing to suggest that he knew any of the three people he shot.

The Kenosha cops could have prevented this whole thing if they had just done their jobs and cleared the streets. The cops in the armed vehicles had the last clear chance. Talk about cops refusing to protect their city.

I can buy the self defense argument when you try to look at from Rittenhouse’s perspective.

Shooting #1...don’t know for sure, let the courts decide that one.

Shooting #2...Huber was trying to disarm him. He had no way of knowing Huber’s intentions.

Shooting #3...the guy had a gun, but had his hands in the air, gun pointing up, backing away. The claim is Kyle thought he made a threatening move and shot him.

It is all about perspective, and those who proclaim Kyle a hero Or a villain, are only willing to see ONE perspective. And keep in mind this is a 17 yr old NOT a seasoned adult.

Here is another perspective.

Huber and Grosskreutz (thoroughly demonized and deemed worthy of killing by thr right) .... what was THEIR perspective?

Gunshots.

Someone yelling “hey, that guy shot someone” and seeing a guy jogging down the street with a gun.

Huber and Grosskreutz trying time take down an active shooter.

If Huber and Grosskreutz were rightwing militants and Kyle a protester...who would would the rabid right label a hero? The villain? They would all over that video of Kyle punching the girl.

It is pretty fucked up frankly. The only real villains are the people who allowed an illegally armed 17 yr old to be in that situation In the first place.

And all the while you ignore the simple fact that the 17 year old was RUNNING AWAY!.

How can you be so blind?

Yes. An active shooter running away. Don‘t brave people try to STOP active shooters from escaping?

Or does that depend on the ideologies involved?

An active shooter attacks random people. The 17 year old only shot people ATTACKING HIM.

Your rampant bias and intellectual dishonesty are quite shocking.

I think you have your own rampant bias and intellectual dishonesty here.

As far as anyone could know while this was happening, he was an active shooter. No one knew why he shot anyone, only that he did. From the perception of the people there (many of whom were fleeing and screaming) there was an active shooter. I doubt the dead man who tried to take him down had time to first run around to where the shooting occurred, interview the witness, and review all the videos first.

No one with a brain could come to the conclusion he was an active shooter because HE WASN'T SHOOTING! He only fired the rifle when he was forced to.

For fucks sake there are loads of video that show this to be true.

Isn’t hindsight just fantastic? Maybe you could lend some to the people pursuing the killer and remind them that they should reviewed all those videos before trying to apprehend a killer.

Ya two criminals that were actively in the process of committing MORE crimes were just concerned citizens. Go peddle your stupidity to someone that is retarded enough to buy it.

What crime were they "actively" committing?

Rioting Looting Burning, and one of them was Illegal armed convicted Felons can not possess own or carry firearms.

Yup, and yet the leftists focus on the firearm of Kyle, which 2A covers. Sick people...

 

[otto105]

Lawyers explain the case.

"If I miss any facts"... like most of them?

How about watching the entire video, that was just a brief summary. He is interviewing the other lawyer.

Leftists can always be detected by their low status snark. Instant loser tell. And no surprise, as result, you come in defense to the pedo and against the American. The facts of the case don't matter, because the low status pedo must be right and the high status Alpha must be wrong.

I have and the "lawyer" is just spouting bullshit.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Lawyers explain the case.

Can somebody post who gave kyle from Antioch the authority as a militia member to enforce anything in Kenosha.

He has a RIGHT under that State's law to protect property if the Owner asks him too. Been covered several times retard.

 

[Norman]

Lawyers explain the case.

"If I miss any facts"... like most of them?

How about watching the entire video, that was just a brief summary. He is interviewing the other lawyer.

Leftists can always be detected by their low status snark. Instant loser tell. And no surprise, as result, you come in defense to the pedo and against the American. The facts of the case don't matter, because the low status pedo must be right and the high status Alpha must be wrong.

I have and the "lawyer" is just spouting bullshit.

No, he is explaining the law and facts of the case. Meanwhile YOU are boasting bullshit as if it was a sport. Not to mention, defending a pedophile and rioters at expense of honest hard working Americans trying to defend our communities.

Sick person. Try that shit and we will shoot you just the same.

 

[Lysistrata]

can't buy the self-defense argument in these circumstances, particularly since Huber and Grosskreutz were trying to take down an active shooter

Who fired the first shot Sherlock? Did you read that?

Rittenhouse did, moron. He was already a murderer, having killed Rosenbaum and people were shouting down the street that Rittenhouse was the killer. The "self defense" argument is pure horseshit. There is no reason for me to believe your baloney. What was this out-of-state, underage kid doing in Kenosha with an AR-15? What in the hell was anyone doing in Kenosha with an assault weapon? What in the hell were the Kenosha cops doing in refusing to kick them out?

 

[Lysistrata]

Since when is a murderer a "patriot"?

He is when he is a Rightwinger.

Self-defense is not murder, as you will soon learn.

When the police did not show up to defend the community against the Molotov bombers, this 17 year old did. A hero, he probably saved lives, and children from the pedophile.

You wanted vigilante justice now you got it, real justice as well. Be happy with it.

Ah yes...the fictional Molotov. He is no hero, he is just another killer.

The Molotov that was thrown at him is now fictional?

What in the fuck?

You can always guarantee these 3rd worldists who are incapable of living productive life in modern society to back the pedophiles and criminals and root against the Americans and American heroes.

Most people don’t confuse Molotov cocktails with plastic bags and statutory rape with pedophilia.

Most people realize that a dde who molested five boys, none older than age 11, is, in fect, a pedophile.

Pre-sentence report...

Agree. All that has come out and been substantiated over time. The guy was a piece of crap, no wonder his sister said she did not want a go fund me done for him. But even pieces of crap have rights under the law. None of this was known at the time of the incident. It isn’t up to mobs to execute people and it isn’t up to vigilantes to pass sentence on someone outside the law.

The arguments in this case keep evolving.

First, insufficient evidence as to what happened.
Then, claims of Molotov cocktail and self defense.
Then criminal record comes out.
Then killing justified because Rosenbaum is a piece of crap.

The ONLY justification for a civilian killing another is self defense or defense of another. Not to pass judgement of a person and decide he or she is worthy of death.

That is not lawlesshe’s.

And frankly, makes me wonder if we are going to enter into an era of an eye for an eye of extrajudicial killings.

Rittenhouse killed two, he and his lawyer is getting death threats.
Reinoehl Killed one, his estranged sister and her family are getting death threats.

Two increasingly radicalized ideologies clashing in our cities. No one in leadership toning down the rhetoric.

He wasn't executed. He was killed while trying to murder a 17 year old. His actions placed him in front of that muzzle.

Here you are, finally acknowledging that the guy was a fucking pervert, after defending him for days even after it was WELL documented he was a fucking violent felon, and now, here you are attacking a 17 year old for defending himself and accusing that 17 year old of executing a poor defenceless protester.

It was NOT well documented to begin with. Linking to a state sex offender registry that doesn’t show hI’m in it is not well documented.

I don’t know about you, but I really try to make sure of the facts before accusing dead people of serious crimes because the first thing you guys do is immediately try shred the character of the victims. Dead people can not defend themselves. First thing you guys do, every time as if that justifies the killing.

And you still are trying to claim all three were violent felons, when one was only convicted of a misdeamenor (as far as I can find) along the same lines as Kyle, and the other was trying to stop an active shooter (from the perspective he saw at the situation from).

I did not say he executed them. I said killed.

So get this through your skull, the 17 year old has NO prior record, and the THREE people he shot, were ALL convicted felons.

Prior record changes nothing. It has no bearing in and of itself on whether or not you have the right to kill someone. A record does not give the right to kill. ONLY self defense does.

And Kyle CAN make a reasonable for self defense. Likewise a reasonable argument can be made that Huber was trying to take down an active shooter(an action you guys would call heroic if he was on of yours). But Huber is dead. Can’t speak for himself.

On the felon bit. You claim all three are “convicted felons” but all I can find on Grosskreutz is having a gun while intoxicated. You have something else?

And you insist on attacking the ONE person in this drama who isn't a CONVICTED FELON.

Are you seriously making an argument that it is ok for a “non-felon” can go and shoot someone, and get away with it solely because the victim was a felon?

Kyle will likely walk on the most serious charges. Self defense is reasonable with Rosenbaum and Huber. But less so with the guy he wounded, who had his hands in the air and was not pointing the gun at Rittenhouse when Rittenhouse shot him. And he won’t walk on the charge of illegal possession of a fire arm.

Wake. The. Fuck. Up.

I do not support lawlessness or vigilanteism.

I can't buy the self-defense argument in these circumstances, particularly since Huber and Grosskreutz were trying to take down an active shooter. Poor Mr. Huber tried to do it unarmed. But right-wingers yell "self defense!" every damned time someone other than a right-winger gets shot. This is really getting boring. It totally lacks credibility.

The argument that Rittenhouse was a hero for shooting Rosenbaum because Rosenbaum had a record is totally absurd, since Rittenhouse could not have known of it at the time. To the best of my knowledge, the two did not know each other. One cannot seriously attribute a motive to a shooter who had no knowledge of his victim. The people contending this are complete assholes. There is nothing to suggest that he knew any of the three people he shot.

The Kenosha cops could have prevented this whole thing if they had just done their jobs and cleared the streets. The cops in the armed vehicles had the last clear chance. Talk about cops refusing to protect their city.

I can buy the self defense argument when you try to look at from Rittenhouse’s perspective.

Shooting #1...don’t know for sure, let the courts decide that one.

Shooting #2...Huber was trying to disarm him. He had no way of knowing Huber’s intentions.

Shooting #3...the guy had a gun, but had his hands in the air, gun pointing up, backing away. The claim is Kyle thought he made a threatening move and shot him.

It is all about perspective, and those who proclaim Kyle a hero Or a villain, are only willing to see ONE perspective. And keep in mind this is a 17 yr old NOT a seasoned adult.

Here is another perspective.

Huber and Grosskreutz (thoroughly demonized and deemed worthy of killing by thr right) .... what was THEIR perspective?

Gunshots.

Someone yelling “hey, that guy shot someone” and seeing a guy jogging down the street with a gun.

Huber and Grosskreutz trying time take down an active shooter.

If Huber and Grosskreutz were rightwing militants and Kyle a protester...who would would the rabid right label a hero? The villain? They would all over that video of Kyle punching the girl.

It is pretty fucked up frankly. The only real villains are the people who allowed an illegally armed 17 yr old to be in that situation In the first place.

The Knosha cops let him off and allowed him to roam. An illegally armed boy from out-of-state. I blame the Kenosha cops for this one. They totally failed to do their jobs. The evidence at least raises the inference that the Kenosha police chief was in hahoots with this gang Did the Kenosha police take any action against the "Kenosha Guards" gang at all?






And all the while you ignore the simple fact that the 17 year old was RUNNING AWAY!.

How can you be so blind?

Yes. An active shooter running away. Don‘t brave people try to STOP active shooters from escaping?

Or does that depend on the ideologies involved?

 

[Jarlaxle]

I have and the "lawyer" is just spouting bullshit.

Describe in detail your legal training, including but not limited to the law school you attended and the states you are licensed to practice law in.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Rittenhouse did, moron. He was already a murderer…

Once again, in order to be a murderer, one has to kill a human being. He didn't kill any human beings; he only killed subhuman criminal pieces of shit.

 

[Lysistrata]

can't buy the self-defense argument in these circumstances, particularly since Huber and Grosskreutz were trying to take down an active shooter

Who fired the first shot Sherlock? Did you read that?

Rittenhouse did, moron. He was already a murderer, having killed Rosenbaum and people were shouting down the street that Rittenhouse was the killer. The "self defense" argument is pure horseshit. There is no reason for me to believe your baloney. What was this out-of-state, underage kid doing in Kenosha with an AR-15? What in the hell was anyone doing in Kenosha with an assault weapon? What in the hell were the Kenosha cops doing in refusing to kick them out?

Rittenhouse did, moron. He was already a murderer…

Once again, in order to be a murderer, one has to kill a human being. He didn't kill any human beings; he only killed subhuman criminal pieces of shit.

On other threads, you have indicated that you are a Christian. Live it for once. You want to drag any faith that we want to have in being a citizen of the U.S.A. into the sewer. You want to drag the Christian faith into the sewer. You want to drag all Americans of European descent into the sewer. Please try to find some sense of humility and shame. We are not all like you.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

On other threads, you have indicated that you are a Christian. Live it for once. You want to drag any faith that we want to have in being a citizen of the U.S.A. into the sewer. You want to drag the Christian faith into the sewer. You want to drag all Americans of European descent into the sewer. Please try to find some sense of humility and shame. We are not all like you.

You'll excuse me if I do not give much credibility to someone who has made it clear that she has nothing bit absolute hatred and contempt for Christianity, and who also openly takes the side of violent, destructive, subhuman criminal pieces of shit against that of actual human beings; in presuming to lecture me on how I should behave as a Christian.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

can't buy the self-defense argument in these circumstances, particularly since Huber and Grosskreutz were trying to take down an active shooter

Who fired the first shot Sherlock? Did you read that?

Rittenhouse did, moron. He was already a murderer, having killed Rosenbaum and people were shouting down the street that Rittenhouse was the killer. The "self defense" argument is pure horseshit. There is no reason for me to believe your baloney. What was this out-of-state, underage kid doing in Kenosha with an AR-15? What in the hell was anyone doing in Kenosha with an assault weapon? What in the hell were the Kenosha cops doing in refusing to kick them out?

Ya out of state suddenly is important, remind me how you whine about all the out of state rioters and looters, ALL 3 of the people shot were OUT of STATE people.