Twitter Attacks Lawyer Representing American Patriot, Kyle Rittenhouse

[Coyote]

Kyle Rittenhouse was breaking WI gun laws and playing soldier

You are factually incorrect still

a good debater would post that law he broke and yet nothing

Wisconsin Legislature: 948.55

docs.legis.wisconsin.gov

a) Any person under 18 years of age who possesses or goes armed with a dangerous weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor.

Whoever gave him that gun is in for a felony charge.

 

[Coyote]

Good example of something not even morally equivalent. You support rule by mob or rule by law?

That from the side that wants to “defund” police, and allow gangs of lawless, subhuman animals to terrorize actual human beings, in complete disregard for any laws that may or should exist to protect humans from such terrorism.

It's almost funny, how you left wrong-wing filth, while defending and promoting and supporting destructive lawlessness, almost always return to trying to appeal to the rule of law in support of your insane and evil positions on such matters.

I don’t support defunding the police, so try again you subhuman piece of filth.

 

[Coyote]

Kyle Rittenhouse lead defense lawyer John Pierce locked out of Twitter over tweet advocating for his client

Twitter's censorship of Rittenhouse's defense team continues.

reclaimthenet.org

"Twitter locked the account of John Pierce, the lead defense lawyer for Kyle Rittenhouse, over a tweet comparing Rittenhouse to the “unknown patriot” who fired the opening shot of the Battle of Concord on April 19th, 1775 that started the American Revolutionary War. This is the second time in two days that a lawyer on Rittenhouse’s defense team has been censored by Twitter. On September 1, defense lawyer Lin Wood was locked out of his account after advocating for his client. Twitter later reinstated the account, admitting the suspension was a mistake."

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All the guy said is that Kyle will go down in history along side of the patriot who fired the shot heard around the world -- what Kyle did was just that important....and he will be remembered along side of other Revolutionary patriots like Crispus Attucks and Peter Salem....

Twitter is actively trying to censor the defense efforts of Kyle and violating the free speech of him and his legal defense team -- it is past time now that Trump nationalizes Twitter and Facebook so everyone's speech can be heard, no government censorship -- except for socialist liberal lies and propaganda...no more shutting down people's political speech, no more deleting QAnon posts just because JFK Jr. is still alive and will announce his support for Trump in 2020 -- Now there is some political speech that does need to be cracked down on, like speech that disagrees with real Americans -- and I trust the Trump admin will decide what is best when it comes to that....

Kyle Rittenhouse was breaking WI gun laws and playing soldier.

No law abiding gun owner should supporting him

Why not?

Because we are a nation of LAWS - Not vigilanteism.

People seem to think that if has a criminal record (either real or fake)....it is ok to kill them. They have no rights.

Extrajudicial killings equal “hero”.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Good example of something not even morally equivalent. You support rule by mob or rule by law?

That from the side that wants to “defund” police, and allow gangs of lawless, subhuman animals to terrorize actual human beings, in complete disregard for any laws that may or should exist to protect humans from such terrorism.

It's almost funny, how you left wrong-wing filth, while defending and promoting and supporting destructive lawlessness, almost always return to trying to appeal to the rule of law in support of your insane and evil positions on such matters.

I don’t support defunding the police, so try again you subhuman piece of filth.

But you are HERE DEFENDING Riots Looting and burnings.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Good example of something not even morally equivalent. You support rule by mob or rule by law?

That from the side that wants to “defund” police, and allow gangs of lawless, subhuman animals to terrorize actual human beings, in complete disregard for any laws that may or should exist to protect humans from such terrorism.

It's almost funny, how you left wrong-wing filth, while defending and promoting and supporting destructive lawlessness, almost always return to trying to appeal to the rule of law in support of your insane and evil positions on such matters.

I don’t support defunding the police, so try again you subhuman piece of filth.

But you are HERE DEFENDING Riots Looting and burnings.

Ohh so Coyote disagrees, yet HERE she is making excuses for rioters looters thieves and people that BURN buildings down and she has done it in several threads.

 

[freyasman]

Kyle Rittenhouse lead defense lawyer John Pierce locked out of Twitter over tweet advocating for his client

Twitter's censorship of Rittenhouse's defense team continues.

reclaimthenet.org

"Twitter locked the account of John Pierce, the lead defense lawyer for Kyle Rittenhouse, over a tweet comparing Rittenhouse to the “unknown patriot” who fired the opening shot of the Battle of Concord on April 19th, 1775 that started the American Revolutionary War. This is the second time in two days that a lawyer on Rittenhouse’s defense team has been censored by Twitter. On September 1, defense lawyer Lin Wood was locked out of his account after advocating for his client. Twitter later reinstated the account, admitting the suspension was a mistake."

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All the guy said is that Kyle will go down in history along side of the patriot who fired the shot heard around the world -- what Kyle did was just that important....and he will be remembered along side of other Revolutionary patriots like Crispus Attucks and Peter Salem....

Twitter is actively trying to censor the defense efforts of Kyle and violating the free speech of him and his legal defense team -- it is past time now that Trump nationalizes Twitter and Facebook so everyone's speech can be heard, no government censorship -- except for socialist liberal lies and propaganda...no more shutting down people's political speech, no more deleting QAnon posts just because JFK Jr. is still alive and will announce his support for Trump in 2020 -- Now there is some political speech that does need to be cracked down on, like speech that disagrees with real Americans -- and I trust the Trump admin will decide what is best when it comes to that....

Kyle Rittenhouse was breaking WI gun laws and playing soldier.

No law abiding gun owner should supporting him

Why not?

Because we are a nation of LAWS - Not vigilanteism.

I follow my laws.

I am a free man.

I see, you gonna go pick off a few commies like Kyle did frey?

If I do, I won't be on video and no one will ever see me or know what happened.

Gonna pick 'em off from a rooftop or hotel room?
Wonder if DHS would be interested in your intentions.
Meh - probably just write ya off as a harmless kook.

DHS draft document: White supremacists are greatest terror threat

The documents are slightly different drafts of the same annual threat assessment, which is not yet published.

www.politico.com

I've had an FBI file since at least 2003, lol.

Color me unsurprised.

Yeah, someone got butthurt over a couple Waco jokes.

Petty, IMO.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Extrajudicial killings equal “hero”.

I will not go that far, those some others appear willing to do so.

Extrajudicial killings of criminals is what happens when the official form of justice fails.

We should be able to leave it to the police and the courts to deal with destructive and violent criminals; but where these criminal are allowed to run amok, and the police and courts are either unwilling or unable to do anything about them, you can hardly condemn the people for doing what needs to be done.

 

[westwall]

Since when is a murderer a "patriot"?

He is when he is a Rightwinger.

Self-defense is not murder, as you will soon learn.

When the police did not show up to defend the community against the Molotov bombers, this 17 year old did. A hero, he probably saved lives, and children from the pedophile.

You wanted vigilante justice now you got it, real justice as well. Be happy with it.

Ah yes...the fictional Molotov. He is no hero, he is just another killer.

The Molotov that was thrown at him is now fictional?

What in the fuck?

You can always guarantee these 3rd worldists who are incapable of living productive life in modern society to back the pedophiles and criminals and root against the Americans and American heroes.

Most people don’t confuse Molotov cocktails with plastic bags and statutory rape with pedophilia.

Most people realize that a dde who molested five boys, none older than age 11, is, in fect, a pedophile.

Pre-sentence report...

Agree. All that has come out and been substantiated over time. The guy was a piece of crap, no wonder his sister said she did not want a go fund me done for him. But even pieces of crap have rights under the law. None of this was known at the time of the incident. It isn’t up to mobs to execute people and it isn’t up to vigilantes to pass sentence on someone outside the law.

The arguments in this case keep evolving.

First, insufficient evidence as to what happened.
Then, claims of Molotov cocktail and self defense.
Then criminal record comes out.
Then killing justified because Rosenbaum is a piece of crap.

The ONLY justification for a civilian killing another is self defense or defense of another. Not to pass judgement of a person and decide he or she is worthy of death.

That is not lawlesshe’s.

And frankly, makes me wonder if we are going to enter into an era of an eye for an eye of extrajudicial killings.

Rittenhouse killed two, he and his lawyer is getting death threats.
Reinoehl Killed one, his estranged sister and her family are getting death threats.

Two increasingly radicalized ideologies clashing in our cities. No one in leadership toning down the rhetoric.

He wasn't executed. He was killed while trying to murder a 17 year old. His actions placed him in front of that muzzle.

Here you are, finally acknowledging that the guy was a fucking pervert, after defending him for days even after it was WELL documented he was a fucking violent felon, and now, here you are attacking a 17 year old for defending himself and accusing that 17 year old of executing a poor defenceless protester.

It was NOT well documented to begin with. Linking to a state sex offender registry that doesn’t show hI’m in it is not well documented.

I don’t know about you, but I really try to make sure of the facts before accusing dead people of serious crimes because the first thing you guys do is immediately try shred the character of the victims. Dead people can not defend themselves. First thing you guys do, every time as if that justifies the killing.

And you still are trying to claim all three were violent felons, when one was only convicted of a misdeamenor (as far as I can find) along the same lines as Kyle, and the other was trying to stop an active shooter (from the perspective he saw at the situation from).

I did not say he executed them. I said killed.

So get this through your skull, the 17 year old has NO prior record, and the THREE people he shot, were ALL convicted felons.

Prior record changes nothing. It has no bearing in and of itself on whether or not you have the right to kill someone. A record does not give the right to kill. ONLY self defense does.

And Kyle CAN make a reasonable for self defense. Likewise a reasonable argument can be made that Huber was trying to take down an active shooter(an action you guys would call heroic if he was on of yours). But Huber is dead. Can’t speak for himself.

On the felon bit. You claim all three are “convicted felons” but all I can find on Grosskreutz is having a gun while intoxicated. You have something else?

And you insist on attacking the ONE person in this drama who isn't a CONVICTED FELON.

Are you seriously making an argument that it is ok for a “non-felon” can go and shoot someone, and get away with it solely because the victim was a felon?

Kyle will likely walk on the most serious charges. Self defense is reasonable with Rosenbaum and Huber. But less so with the guy he wounded, who had his hands in the air and was not pointing the gun at Rittenhouse when Rittenhouse shot him. And he won’t walk on the charge of illegal possession of a fire arm.

Wake. The. Fuck. Up.

I do not support lawlessness or vigilanteism.

I can't buy the self-defense argument in these circumstances, particularly since Huber and Grosskreutz were trying to take down an active shooter. Poor Mr. Huber tried to do it unarmed. But right-wingers yell "self defense!" every damned time someone other than a right-winger gets shot. This is really getting boring. It totally lacks credibility.

The argument that Rittenhouse was a hero for shooting Rosenbaum because Rosenbaum had a record is totally absurd, since Rittenhouse could not have known of it at the time. To the best of my knowledge, the two did not know each other. One cannot seriously attribute a motive to a shooter who had no knowledge of his victim. The people contending this are complete assholes. There is nothing to suggest that he knew any of the three people he shot.

The Kenosha cops could have prevented this whole thing if they had just done their jobs and cleared the streets. The cops in the armed vehicles had the last clear chance. Talk about cops refusing to protect their city.

I can buy the self defense argument when you try to look at from Rittenhouse’s perspective.

Shooting #1...don’t know for sure, let the courts decide that one.

Shooting #2...Huber was trying to disarm him. He had no way of knowing Huber’s intentions.

Shooting #3...the guy had a gun, but had his hands in the air, gun pointing up, backing away. The claim is Kyle thought he made a threatening move and shot him.

It is all about perspective, and those who proclaim Kyle a hero Or a villain, are only willing to see ONE perspective. And keep in mind this is a 17 yr old NOT a seasoned adult.

Here is another perspective.

Huber and Grosskreutz (thoroughly demonized and deemed worthy of killing by thr right) .... what was THEIR perspective?

Gunshots.

Someone yelling “hey, that guy shot someone” and seeing a guy jogging down the street with a gun.

Huber and Grosskreutz trying time take down an active shooter.

If Huber and Grosskreutz were rightwing militants and Kyle a protester...who would would the rabid right label a hero? The villain? They would all over that video of Kyle punching the girl.

It is pretty fucked up frankly. The only real villains are the people who allowed an illegally armed 17 yr old to be in that situation In the first place.

And all the while you ignore the simple fact that the 17 year old was RUNNING AWAY!.

How can you be so blind?

Yes. An active shooter running away. Don‘t brave people try to STOP active shooters from escaping?

Or does that depend on the ideologies involved?

An active shooter attacks random people. The 17 year old only shot people ATTACKING HIM.

Your rampant bias and intellectual dishonesty are quite shocking.

 

[Coyote]

Extrajudicial killings equal “hero”.

I will not go that far, those some others appear willing to do so.

Extrajudicial killings of criminals is what happens when the official form of justice fails.

We should be able to leave it to the police and the courts to deal with destructive and violent criminals; but where these criminal are allowed to run amok, and the police and courts are either unwilling or unable to do anything about them, you can hardly condemn the people for doing what needs to be done.

But who makes that decision? And how? And what accountability is there?

 

[freyasman]

Since when is a murderer a "patriot"?

He is when he is a Rightwinger.

Self-defense is not murder, as you will soon learn.

When the police did not show up to defend the community against the Molotov bombers, this 17 year old did. A hero, he probably saved lives, and children from the pedophile.

You wanted vigilante justice now you got it, real justice as well. Be happy with it.

Ah yes...the fictional Molotov. He is no hero, he is just another killer.

The Molotov that was thrown at him is now fictional?

What in the fuck?

You can always guarantee these 3rd worldists who are incapable of living productive life in modern society to back the pedophiles and criminals and root against the Americans and American heroes.

Most people don’t confuse Molotov cocktails with plastic bags and statutory rape with pedophilia.

Most people realize that a dde who molested five boys, none older than age 11, is, in fect, a pedophile.

Pre-sentence report...

Agree. All that has come out and been substantiated over time. The guy was a piece of crap, no wonder his sister said she did not want a go fund me done for him. But even pieces of crap have rights under the law. None of this was known at the time of the incident. It isn’t up to mobs to execute people and it isn’t up to vigilantes to pass sentence on someone outside the law.

The arguments in this case keep evolving.

First, insufficient evidence as to what happened.
Then, claims of Molotov cocktail and self defense.
Then criminal record comes out.
Then killing justified because Rosenbaum is a piece of crap.

The ONLY justification for a civilian killing another is self defense or defense of another. Not to pass judgement of a person and decide he or she is worthy of death.

That is not lawlesshe’s.

And frankly, makes me wonder if we are going to enter into an era of an eye for an eye of extrajudicial killings.

Rittenhouse killed two, he and his lawyer is getting death threats.
Reinoehl Killed one, his estranged sister and her family are getting death threats.

Two increasingly radicalized ideologies clashing in our cities. No one in leadership toning down the rhetoric.

He wasn't executed. He was killed while trying to murder a 17 year old. His actions placed him in front of that muzzle.

Here you are, finally acknowledging that the guy was a fucking pervert, after defending him for days even after it was WELL documented he was a fucking violent felon, and now, here you are attacking a 17 year old for defending himself and accusing that 17 year old of executing a poor defenceless protester.

It was NOT well documented to begin with. Linking to a state sex offender registry that doesn’t show hI’m in it is not well documented.

I don’t know about you, but I really try to make sure of the facts before accusing dead people of serious crimes because the first thing you guys do is immediately try shred the character of the victims. Dead people can not defend themselves. First thing you guys do, every time as if that justifies the killing.

And you still are trying to claim all three were violent felons, when one was only convicted of a misdeamenor (as far as I can find) along the same lines as Kyle, and the other was trying to stop an active shooter (from the perspective he saw at the situation from).

I did not say he executed them. I said killed.

So get this through your skull, the 17 year old has NO prior record, and the THREE people he shot, were ALL convicted felons.

Prior record changes nothing. It has no bearing in and of itself on whether or not you have the right to kill someone. A record does not give the right to kill. ONLY self defense does.

And Kyle CAN make a reasonable for self defense. Likewise a reasonable argument can be made that Huber was trying to take down an active shooter(an action you guys would call heroic if he was on of yours). But Huber is dead. Can’t speak for himself.

On the felon bit. You claim all three are “convicted felons” but all I can find on Grosskreutz is having a gun while intoxicated. You have something else?

And you insist on attacking the ONE person in this drama who isn't a CONVICTED FELON.

Are you seriously making an argument that it is ok for a “non-felon” can go and shoot someone, and get away with it solely because the victim was a felon?

Kyle will likely walk on the most serious charges. Self defense is reasonable with Rosenbaum and Huber. But less so with the guy he wounded, who had his hands in the air and was not pointing the gun at Rittenhouse when Rittenhouse shot him. And he won’t walk on the charge of illegal possession of a fire arm.

Wake. The. Fuck. Up.

I do not support lawlessness or vigilanteism.

I can't buy the self-defense argument in these circumstances, particularly since Huber and Grosskreutz were trying to take down an active shooter. Poor Mr. Huber tried to do it unarmed. But right-wingers yell "self defense!" every damned time someone other than a right-winger gets shot. This is really getting boring. It totally lacks credibility.

The argument that Rittenhouse was a hero for shooting Rosenbaum because Rosenbaum had a record is totally absurd, since Rittenhouse could not have known of it at the time. To the best of my knowledge, the two did not know each other. One cannot seriously attribute a motive to a shooter who had no knowledge of his victim. The people contending this are complete assholes. There is nothing to suggest that he knew any of the three people he shot.

The Kenosha cops could have prevented this whole thing if they had just done their jobs and cleared the streets. The cops in the armed vehicles had the last clear chance. Talk about cops refusing to protect their city.

I can buy the self defense argument when you try to look at from Rittenhouse’s perspective.

Shooting #1...don’t know for sure, let the courts decide that one.

Shooting #2...Huber was trying to disarm him. He had no way of knowing Huber’s intentions.

Shooting #3...the guy had a gun, but had his hands in the air, gun pointing up, backing away. The claim is Kyle thought he made a threatening move and shot him.

It is all about perspective, and those who proclaim Kyle a hero Or a villain, are only willing to see ONE perspective. And keep in mind this is a 17 yr old NOT a seasoned adult.

Here is another perspective.

Huber and Grosskreutz (thoroughly demonized and deemed worthy of killing by thr right) .... what was THEIR perspective?

Gunshots.

Someone yelling “hey, that guy shot someone” and seeing a guy jogging down the street with a gun.

Huber and Grosskreutz trying time take down an active shooter.

If Huber and Grosskreutz were rightwing militants and Kyle a protester...who would would the rabid right label a hero? The villain? They would all over that video of Kyle punching the girl.

It is pretty fucked up frankly. The only real villains are the people who allowed an illegally armed 17 yr old to be in that situation In the first place.

He was running toward the cops; why not simply follow him over there and tell the lawdogs "Hey this dude just killed a guy back there,"?
Why were they so determined and in such a hurry to catch him before he got to the cops if they were actually on the side of the angels, as you keep trying to claim?

 

[westwall]

Kyle Rittenhouse lead defense lawyer John Pierce locked out of Twitter over tweet advocating for his client

Twitter's censorship of Rittenhouse's defense team continues.

reclaimthenet.org

"Twitter locked the account of John Pierce, the lead defense lawyer for Kyle Rittenhouse, over a tweet comparing Rittenhouse to the “unknown patriot” who fired the opening shot of the Battle of Concord on April 19th, 1775 that started the American Revolutionary War. This is the second time in two days that a lawyer on Rittenhouse’s defense team has been censored by Twitter. On September 1, defense lawyer Lin Wood was locked out of his account after advocating for his client. Twitter later reinstated the account, admitting the suspension was a mistake."

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All the guy said is that Kyle will go down in history along side of the patriot who fired the shot heard around the world -- what Kyle did was just that important....and he will be remembered along side of other Revolutionary patriots like Crispus Attucks and Peter Salem....

Twitter is actively trying to censor the defense efforts of Kyle and violating the free speech of him and his legal defense team -- it is past time now that Trump nationalizes Twitter and Facebook so everyone's speech can be heard, no government censorship -- except for socialist liberal lies and propaganda...no more shutting down people's political speech, no more deleting QAnon posts just because JFK Jr. is still alive and will announce his support for Trump in 2020 -- Now there is some political speech that does need to be cracked down on, like speech that disagrees with real Americans -- and I trust the Trump admin will decide what is best when it comes to that....

Kyle Rittenhouse was breaking WI gun laws and playing soldier.

No law abiding gun owner should supporting him

Why not?

Because we are a nation of LAWS - Not vigilanteism.

People seem to think that if has a criminal record (either real or fake)....it is ok to kill them. They have no rights.

Extrajudicial killings equal “hero”.

Why do you continue to lie? No one has said it's okay to murder people because they have prior records, we have said that shooting convicted felons WHILE THEY ARE ATTACKING YOU is A-OK.

 

[freyasman]

Since when is a murderer a "patriot"?

He is when he is a Rightwinger.

Self-defense is not murder, as you will soon learn.

When the police did not show up to defend the community against the Molotov bombers, this 17 year old did. A hero, he probably saved lives, and children from the pedophile.

You wanted vigilante justice now you got it, real justice as well. Be happy with it.

Ah yes...the fictional Molotov. He is no hero, he is just another killer.

The Molotov that was thrown at him is now fictional?

What in the fuck?

You can always guarantee these 3rd worldists who are incapable of living productive life in modern society to back the pedophiles and criminals and root against the Americans and American heroes.

Most people don’t confuse Molotov cocktails with plastic bags and statutory rape with pedophilia.

Most people realize that a dde who molested five boys, none older than age 11, is, in fect, a pedophile.

Pre-sentence report...

Agree. All that has come out and been substantiated over time. The guy was a piece of crap, no wonder his sister said she did not want a go fund me done for him. But even pieces of crap have rights under the law. None of this was known at the time of the incident. It isn’t up to mobs to execute people and it isn’t up to vigilantes to pass sentence on someone outside the law.

The arguments in this case keep evolving.

First, insufficient evidence as to what happened.
Then, claims of Molotov cocktail and self defense.
Then criminal record comes out.
Then killing justified because Rosenbaum is a piece of crap.

The ONLY justification for a civilian killing another is self defense or defense of another. Not to pass judgement of a person and decide he or she is worthy of death.

That is not lawlesshe’s.

And frankly, makes me wonder if we are going to enter into an era of an eye for an eye of extrajudicial killings.

Rittenhouse killed two, he and his lawyer is getting death threats.
Reinoehl Killed one, his estranged sister and her family are getting death threats.

Two increasingly radicalized ideologies clashing in our cities. No one in leadership toning down the rhetoric.

He wasn't executed. He was killed while trying to murder a 17 year old. His actions placed him in front of that muzzle.

Here you are, finally acknowledging that the guy was a fucking pervert, after defending him for days even after it was WELL documented he was a fucking violent felon, and now, here you are attacking a 17 year old for defending himself and accusing that 17 year old of executing a poor defenceless protester.

It was NOT well documented to begin with. Linking to a state sex offender registry that doesn’t show hI’m in it is not well documented.

I don’t know about you, but I really try to make sure of the facts before accusing dead people of serious crimes because the first thing you guys do is immediately try shred the character of the victims. Dead people can not defend themselves. First thing you guys do, every time as if that justifies the killing.

And you still are trying to claim all three were violent felons, when one was only convicted of a misdeamenor (as far as I can find) along the same lines as Kyle, and the other was trying to stop an active shooter (from the perspective he saw at the situation from).

I did not say he executed them. I said killed.

So get this through your skull, the 17 year old has NO prior record, and the THREE people he shot, were ALL convicted felons.

Prior record changes nothing. It has no bearing in and of itself on whether or not you have the right to kill someone. A record does not give the right to kill. ONLY self defense does.

And Kyle CAN make a reasonable for self defense. Likewise a reasonable argument can be made that Huber was trying to take down an active shooter(an action you guys would call heroic if he was on of yours). But Huber is dead. Can’t speak for himself.

On the felon bit. You claim all three are “convicted felons” but all I can find on Grosskreutz is having a gun while intoxicated. You have something else?

And you insist on attacking the ONE person in this drama who isn't a CONVICTED FELON.

Are you seriously making an argument that it is ok for a “non-felon” can go and shoot someone, and get away with it solely because the victim was a felon?

Kyle will likely walk on the most serious charges. Self defense is reasonable with Rosenbaum and Huber. But less so with the guy he wounded, who had his hands in the air and was not pointing the gun at Rittenhouse when Rittenhouse shot him. And he won’t walk on the charge of illegal possession of a fire arm.

Wake. The. Fuck. Up.

I do not support lawlessness or vigilanteism.

I can't buy the self-defense argument in these circumstances, particularly since Huber and Grosskreutz were trying to take down an active shooter. Poor Mr. Huber tried to do it unarmed. But right-wingers yell "self defense!" every damned time someone other than a right-winger gets shot. This is really getting boring. It totally lacks credibility.

The argument that Rittenhouse was a hero for shooting Rosenbaum because Rosenbaum had a record is totally absurd, since Rittenhouse could not have known of it at the time. To the best of my knowledge, the two did not know each other. One cannot seriously attribute a motive to a shooter who had no knowledge of his victim. The people contending this are complete assholes. There is nothing to suggest that he knew any of the three people he shot.

The Kenosha cops could have prevented this whole thing if they had just done their jobs and cleared the streets. The cops in the armed vehicles had the last clear chance. Talk about cops refusing to protect their city.

I can buy the self defense argument when you try to look at from Rittenhouse’s perspective.

Shooting #1...don’t know for sure, let the courts decide that one.

Shooting #2...Huber was trying to disarm him. He had no way of knowing Huber’s intentions.

Shooting #3...the guy had a gun, but had his hands in the air, gun pointing up, backing away. The claim is Kyle thought he made a threatening move and shot him.

It is all about perspective, and those who proclaim Kyle a hero Or a villain, are only willing to see ONE perspective. And keep in mind this is a 17 yr old NOT a seasoned adult.

Here is another perspective.

Huber and Grosskreutz (thoroughly demonized and deemed worthy of killing by thr right) .... what was THEIR perspective?

Gunshots.

Someone yelling “hey, that guy shot someone” and seeing a guy jogging down the street with a gun.

Huber and Grosskreutz trying time take down an active shooter.

If Huber and Grosskreutz were rightwing militants and Kyle a protester...who would would the rabid right label a hero? The villain? They would all over that video of Kyle punching the girl.

It is pretty fucked up frankly. The only real villains are the people who allowed an illegally armed 17 yr old to be in that situation In the first place.

And all the while you ignore the simple fact that the 17 year old was RUNNING AWAY!.

How can you be so blind?

Yes. An active shooter running away. Don‘t brave people try to STOP active shooters from escaping?

Or does that depend on the ideologies involved?

He wasn't one, though.

That's where the whole bullshit thing you're trying so hard to build falls apart.

 

[freyasman]

Kyle Rittenhouse lead defense lawyer John Pierce locked out of Twitter over tweet advocating for his client

Twitter's censorship of Rittenhouse's defense team continues.

reclaimthenet.org

"Twitter locked the account of John Pierce, the lead defense lawyer for Kyle Rittenhouse, over a tweet comparing Rittenhouse to the “unknown patriot” who fired the opening shot of the Battle of Concord on April 19th, 1775 that started the American Revolutionary War. This is the second time in two days that a lawyer on Rittenhouse’s defense team has been censored by Twitter. On September 1, defense lawyer Lin Wood was locked out of his account after advocating for his client. Twitter later reinstated the account, admitting the suspension was a mistake."

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All the guy said is that Kyle will go down in history along side of the patriot who fired the shot heard around the world -- what Kyle did was just that important....and he will be remembered along side of other Revolutionary patriots like Crispus Attucks and Peter Salem....

Twitter is actively trying to censor the defense efforts of Kyle and violating the free speech of him and his legal defense team -- it is past time now that Trump nationalizes Twitter and Facebook so everyone's speech can be heard, no government censorship -- except for socialist liberal lies and propaganda...no more shutting down people's political speech, no more deleting QAnon posts just because JFK Jr. is still alive and will announce his support for Trump in 2020 -- Now there is some political speech that does need to be cracked down on, like speech that disagrees with real Americans -- and I trust the Trump admin will decide what is best when it comes to that....

Kyle Rittenhouse was breaking WI gun laws and playing soldier.

No law abiding gun owner should supporting him

Why not?

Because we are a nation of LAWS - Not vigilanteism.

People seem to think that if has a criminal record (either real or fake)....it is ok to kill them. They have no rights.

Extrajudicial killings equal “hero”.

Not everyone with a criminal record is a bad guy but almost all bad guys will have a criminal record.

 

[Coyote]

Since when is a murderer a "patriot"?

He is when he is a Rightwinger.

Self-defense is not murder, as you will soon learn.

When the police did not show up to defend the community against the Molotov bombers, this 17 year old did. A hero, he probably saved lives, and children from the pedophile.

You wanted vigilante justice now you got it, real justice as well. Be happy with it.

Ah yes...the fictional Molotov. He is no hero, he is just another killer.

The Molotov that was thrown at him is now fictional?

What in the fuck?

You can always guarantee these 3rd worldists who are incapable of living productive life in modern society to back the pedophiles and criminals and root against the Americans and American heroes.

Most people don’t confuse Molotov cocktails with plastic bags and statutory rape with pedophilia.

Most people realize that a dde who molested five boys, none older than age 11, is, in fect, a pedophile.

Pre-sentence report...

Agree. All that has come out and been substantiated over time. The guy was a piece of crap, no wonder his sister said she did not want a go fund me done for him. But even pieces of crap have rights under the law. None of this was known at the time of the incident. It isn’t up to mobs to execute people and it isn’t up to vigilantes to pass sentence on someone outside the law.

The arguments in this case keep evolving.

First, insufficient evidence as to what happened.
Then, claims of Molotov cocktail and self defense.
Then criminal record comes out.
Then killing justified because Rosenbaum is a piece of crap.

The ONLY justification for a civilian killing another is self defense or defense of another. Not to pass judgement of a person and decide he or she is worthy of death.

That is not lawlesshe’s.

And frankly, makes me wonder if we are going to enter into an era of an eye for an eye of extrajudicial killings.

Rittenhouse killed two, he and his lawyer is getting death threats.
Reinoehl Killed one, his estranged sister and her family are getting death threats.

Two increasingly radicalized ideologies clashing in our cities. No one in leadership toning down the rhetoric.

He wasn't executed. He was killed while trying to murder a 17 year old. His actions placed him in front of that muzzle.

Here you are, finally acknowledging that the guy was a fucking pervert, after defending him for days even after it was WELL documented he was a fucking violent felon, and now, here you are attacking a 17 year old for defending himself and accusing that 17 year old of executing a poor defenceless protester.

It was NOT well documented to begin with. Linking to a state sex offender registry that doesn’t show hI’m in it is not well documented.

I don’t know about you, but I really try to make sure of the facts before accusing dead people of serious crimes because the first thing you guys do is immediately try shred the character of the victims. Dead people can not defend themselves. First thing you guys do, every time as if that justifies the killing.

And you still are trying to claim all three were violent felons, when one was only convicted of a misdeamenor (as far as I can find) along the same lines as Kyle, and the other was trying to stop an active shooter (from the perspective he saw at the situation from).

I did not say he executed them. I said killed.

So get this through your skull, the 17 year old has NO prior record, and the THREE people he shot, were ALL convicted felons.

Prior record changes nothing. It has no bearing in and of itself on whether or not you have the right to kill someone. A record does not give the right to kill. ONLY self defense does.

And Kyle CAN make a reasonable for self defense. Likewise a reasonable argument can be made that Huber was trying to take down an active shooter(an action you guys would call heroic if he was on of yours). But Huber is dead. Can’t speak for himself.

On the felon bit. You claim all three are “convicted felons” but all I can find on Grosskreutz is having a gun while intoxicated. You have something else?

And you insist on attacking the ONE person in this drama who isn't a CONVICTED FELON.

Are you seriously making an argument that it is ok for a “non-felon” can go and shoot someone, and get away with it solely because the victim was a felon?

Kyle will likely walk on the most serious charges. Self defense is reasonable with Rosenbaum and Huber. But less so with the guy he wounded, who had his hands in the air and was not pointing the gun at Rittenhouse when Rittenhouse shot him. And he won’t walk on the charge of illegal possession of a fire arm.

Wake. The. Fuck. Up.

I do not support lawlessness or vigilanteism.

I can't buy the self-defense argument in these circumstances, particularly since Huber and Grosskreutz were trying to take down an active shooter. Poor Mr. Huber tried to do it unarmed. But right-wingers yell "self defense!" every damned time someone other than a right-winger gets shot. This is really getting boring. It totally lacks credibility.

The argument that Rittenhouse was a hero for shooting Rosenbaum because Rosenbaum had a record is totally absurd, since Rittenhouse could not have known of it at the time. To the best of my knowledge, the two did not know each other. One cannot seriously attribute a motive to a shooter who had no knowledge of his victim. The people contending this are complete assholes. There is nothing to suggest that he knew any of the three people he shot.

The Kenosha cops could have prevented this whole thing if they had just done their jobs and cleared the streets. The cops in the armed vehicles had the last clear chance. Talk about cops refusing to protect their city.

I can buy the self defense argument when you try to look at from Rittenhouse’s perspective.

Shooting #1...don’t know for sure, let the courts decide that one.

Shooting #2...Huber was trying to disarm him. He had no way of knowing Huber’s intentions.

Shooting #3...the guy had a gun, but had his hands in the air, gun pointing up, backing away. The claim is Kyle thought he made a threatening move and shot him.

It is all about perspective, and those who proclaim Kyle a hero Or a villain, are only willing to see ONE perspective. And keep in mind this is a 17 yr old NOT a seasoned adult.

Here is another perspective.

Huber and Grosskreutz (thoroughly demonized and deemed worthy of killing by thr right) .... what was THEIR perspective?

Gunshots.

Someone yelling “hey, that guy shot someone” and seeing a guy jogging down the street with a gun.

Huber and Grosskreutz trying time take down an active shooter.

If Huber and Grosskreutz were rightwing militants and Kyle a protester...who would would the rabid right label a hero? The villain? They would all over that video of Kyle punching the girl.

It is pretty fucked up frankly. The only real villains are the people who allowed an illegally armed 17 yr old to be in that situation In the first place.

And all the while you ignore the simple fact that the 17 year old was RUNNING AWAY!.

How can you be so blind?

Yes. An active shooter running away. Don‘t brave people try to STOP active shooters from escaping?

Or does that depend on the ideologies involved?

An active shooter attacks random people. The 17 year old only shot people ATTACKING HIM.

Your rampant bias and intellectual dishonesty are quite shocking.

I think you have your own rampant bias and intellectual dishonesty here.

As far as anyone could know while this was happening, he was an active shooter. No one knew why he shot anyone, only that he did. From the perception of the people there (many of whom were fleeing and screaming) there was an active shooter. I doubt the dead man who tried to take him down had time to first run around to where the shooting occurred, interview the witness, and review all the videos first.

 

[Jarlaxle]

And all the while you ignore the simple fact that the 17 year old was RUNNING AWAY!.

How can you be so blind?

Coyote does not care.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Wisconsin Legislature: 948.55

docs.legis.wisconsin.gov

a) Any person under 18 years of age who possesses or goes armed with a dangerous weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor.

Whoever gave him that gun is in for a felony charge.

No matter how many times you (and others) regurgitate that, it is STILL WRONG. There is an EXPLICIT exception for 16-17 year olds openly carrying long guns.

 

[Jarlaxle]

People seem to think that if has a criminal record (either real or fake)....it is ok to kill them. They have no rights.

Extrajudicial killings equal “hero”.

No, they're simply noting that the three thugs that attacked Kyle were slimeballs.

 

[Lysistrata]

We have a right to self defense in America...

Some of us do......let's not give those darkies any ideas......

First you need to understand the phrase and what it represents

Darkies like Trayvon beating the crap out of some creepy guy following him at night -- that isn't self defense....that darkie should have complied with George Zimmerman's commands...most darkies have superhuman strength, so fighting them is dangerous -- gotta shoot em dead

Your reference to black people as "darkies" and that "darkies" should comply with any command given them by some armed street thug says a lot about what kind of person you are, and it's perfectly awful. If your parents taught you this, they are complete failures. Nobody owes you anything, cupcake.

Just for your approusal. There are many White people who have had nasty run ins with Black people. The Black people most likely calling them nasty racist names. People are not forgiven for saying things as you wrote, but there could be reasons for it.

Yeah. My nasty run-in with a black guy was somebody who told me that I filled my bra nicely and a black woman who was berating her child in a restroom while I was using it, her child was crying, and me and my co-workers intervened. we worked on a floor that also housed a pediatrician's office. I also had run-ins with two filthy mouthed white guys, neither of whom I knew, who just had to tell me in no uncertain terms, what they thought of women. The first one referred to women by the C-word and caused the guy I was sitting with in the university rathskeller to confront him. The second was when I was in line behind him at a 7-11, and I was tired as hell, and he turned on me and barked in my face, using the most disgusting language that I have ever heard out of another human being. I did not know either of these guys. Yeah. I've had nasty run-ins with black people. And with white ones, too.

This shit isn't racial. Don't you try and drum up division among Americans just because we have different skin shades. The worst that I have ever gotten was because of my sex, female, and not my race. You need to talk to men about why they do this sort of thing to women. It's not only white, it's black, and probably other colors and ethnicities.

I am much older now, and live in a very diverse community. We all get along because we are polite and respectful of each other, and we all help folks out, no matter what skin-shade and what gender, and whether we know them or not. You have to be a human being, first and foremost.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Is it wrong for me to hope that there are 10,000 more dead commies at the hands of patriots like Rittenhouse?

Is it wrong to pray to Woden and Thor for the opportunity to kill commies and die in battle to go to Valhalla?

I need some opinions.

My avatar portrait is Odin.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

But who makes that decision? And how? And what accountability is there?

Proper accountability would have to take the form of the mayors who ordered police to stand down to be arrested, and criminally tried for malfeasance and as accessories to the crimes committed by the subhuman pieces of shit whose side they took against that of the actual human beings that they were elected to serve.