Two dead after North Houston parking lot shootout

[hortysir]

And?
Beats the hell out of shooting second

Unless that person wasn't going to shoot.

Man had enough balls to step into another person's car
Also had the fortitude to point gun at woman

Is that a gamble you would be willing to take on SOMEONE ELSES'S life?

The low life asked for "all that he had"
His wife and kid was all he had, and he wasn't going to stand back and let this fucking parasite take them.

No greater love hath he than would lay down his life

And maybe the guy wanted some valuables as he was asking and then would be on his way. But once shot at of course he was going to start shooting.

Very, very few people are murdered by complete strangers.

Like I asked; are you willing to take that gamble with your wife and kid?

I don't even carry so sure.

So there could be three dead instead of two
To use your statistics, that's a fifty percent increase in murder-death-kills

 

[Brain357]

This one gives more details. Sounds like defender shot first.
Two dead after shootout inside vehicle in N. Houston

And?
Beats the hell out of shooting second

Unless that person wasn't going to shoot.

Man had enough balls to step into another person's car
Also had the fortitude to point gun at woman

Is that a gamble you would be willing to take on SOMEONE ELSES'S life?

The low life asked for "all that he had"
His wife and kid was all he had, and he wasn't going to stand back and let this fucking parasite take them.

No greater love hath he than would lay down his life

And maybe the guy wanted some valuables as he was asking and then would be on his way. But once shot at of course he was going to start shooting.

Very, very few people are murdered by complete strangers.

Yes...the people in this story gave the criminals everything they wanted, they were raped, then forced to have sex with each other to ammuse the violent sociopaths, then taken to their atms to get the monsters cash.....they got everything they wanted from the victims.....and then they were all shot in the back of the head....

Do you think they knew how the attack was going to end before they were kneeling in the cold field?

They did absolutely everything the crimianals wanted....everything.....


Wichita Massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Carr brothers, 22-year-old Reginald and 20-year-old Jonathan, already had lengthy criminal records when they began their spree based on robbery.[7] On December 8, 2000, having recently arrived in Wichita, they committed armed robberyagainst Andrew Schreiber, a 23-year-old assistant baseball coach. On December 11, three days later, they shot and mortally wounded 55-year-old cellist and librarian, Ann Walenta, as she tried to escape from them in her car; she died three days after the shooting.

Their crime spree culminated on December 14, when the Carrs invaded a home and subjected five young men and women to robbery, sexual abuse, and murder. The brothers broke into a house chosen nearly at random where Brad Heyka, Heather Muller, Aaron Sander, Jason Befort and his girlfriend, a young woman identified as 'H.G.', all in their twenties, were spending the night. They were all working adults: Befort was a local high school teacher; Heyka, a director of finance with a local financial services company; Muller, a local preschool teacher; and Sandler, a former financial analyst who had been studying to become a priest. H.G. is a teacher.

The Carrs initially scoured the house for valuables. H.G. learned of Befort's intent to propose marriage to her when the Carrs discovered the engagement ring he had hidden in a can of popcorn. After the search, the Carrs forced their hostages to strip naked, bound and detained them, and subjected them to various forms of sexual abuse, including rape and oral sex.[7] The brothers forced the men to engage in sexual acts with the women, and the women with each other. They drove the victims to ATMs to empty their bank accounts, before taking them to a snowy deserted soccer complex on the outskirts of town.

There they shot the five execution-style in the backs of their heads. The Carr brothers drove Befort's truck over the bodies and left them for dead.

H.G. survived her head wound at the soccer field because her plastic barrette deflected the bullet. After the killers left, she walked naked for more than a mile in freezing weather to seek first aid and shelter at a house. Before getting medical treatment, she reported the incident and descriptions of her attackers to the couple who took her in, even before the police arrived.

And super rare. Stop being so scared of something that will never happen to you.

 

[Brain357]

Unless that person wasn't going to shoot.

Man had enough balls to step into another person's car
Also had the fortitude to point gun at woman

Is that a gamble you would be willing to take on SOMEONE ELSES'S life?

The low life asked for "all that he had"
His wife and kid was all he had, and he wasn't going to stand back and let this fucking parasite take them.

No greater love hath he than would lay down his life

And maybe the guy wanted some valuables as he was asking and then would be on his way. But once shot at of course he was going to start shooting.

Very, very few people are murdered by complete strangers.

Like I asked; are you willing to take that gamble with your wife and kid?

I don't even carry so sure.

So there could be three dead instead of two
To use your statistics, that's a fifty percent increase in murder-death-kills

Based on murder stats more likely to be none.

 

[2aguy]

And?
Beats the hell out of shooting second

Unless that person wasn't going to shoot.

Man had enough balls to step into another person's car
Also had the fortitude to point gun at woman

Is that a gamble you would be willing to take on SOMEONE ELSES'S life?

The low life asked for "all that he had"
His wife and kid was all he had, and he wasn't going to stand back and let this fucking parasite take them.

No greater love hath he than would lay down his life

And maybe the guy wanted some valuables as he was asking and then would be on his way. But once shot at of course he was going to start shooting.

Very, very few people are murdered by complete strangers.

Yes...the people in this story gave the criminals everything they wanted, they were raped, then forced to have sex with each other to ammuse the violent sociopaths, then taken to their atms to get the monsters cash.....they got everything they wanted from the victims.....and then they were all shot in the back of the head....

Do you think they knew how the attack was going to end before they were kneeling in the cold field?

They did absolutely everything the crimianals wanted....everything.....


Wichita Massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Carr brothers, 22-year-old Reginald and 20-year-old Jonathan, already had lengthy criminal records when they began their spree based on robbery.[7] On December 8, 2000, having recently arrived in Wichita, they committed armed robberyagainst Andrew Schreiber, a 23-year-old assistant baseball coach. On December 11, three days later, they shot and mortally wounded 55-year-old cellist and librarian, Ann Walenta, as she tried to escape from them in her car; she died three days after the shooting.

Their crime spree culminated on December 14, when the Carrs invaded a home and subjected five young men and women to robbery, sexual abuse, and murder. The brothers broke into a house chosen nearly at random where Brad Heyka, Heather Muller, Aaron Sander, Jason Befort and his girlfriend, a young woman identified as 'H.G.', all in their twenties, were spending the night. They were all working adults: Befort was a local high school teacher; Heyka, a director of finance with a local financial services company; Muller, a local preschool teacher; and Sandler, a former financial analyst who had been studying to become a priest. H.G. is a teacher.

The Carrs initially scoured the house for valuables. H.G. learned of Befort's intent to propose marriage to her when the Carrs discovered the engagement ring he had hidden in a can of popcorn. After the search, the Carrs forced their hostages to strip naked, bound and detained them, and subjected them to various forms of sexual abuse, including rape and oral sex.[7] The brothers forced the men to engage in sexual acts with the women, and the women with each other. They drove the victims to ATMs to empty their bank accounts, before taking them to a snowy deserted soccer complex on the outskirts of town.

There they shot the five execution-style in the backs of their heads. The Carr brothers drove Befort's truck over the bodies and left them for dead.

H.G. survived her head wound at the soccer field because her plastic barrette deflected the bullet. After the killers left, she walked naked for more than a mile in freezing weather to seek first aid and shelter at a house. Before getting medical treatment, she reported the incident and descriptions of her attackers to the couple who took her in, even before the police arrived.

And super rare. Stop being so scared of something that will never happen to you.

Scared...no. Prepared, yes. And how do you know who it will, or will not happen to? Are you psychic?

 

[Brain357]

Unless that person wasn't going to shoot.

Man had enough balls to step into another person's car
Also had the fortitude to point gun at woman

Is that a gamble you would be willing to take on SOMEONE ELSES'S life?

The low life asked for "all that he had"
His wife and kid was all he had, and he wasn't going to stand back and let this fucking parasite take them.

No greater love hath he than would lay down his life

And maybe the guy wanted some valuables as he was asking and then would be on his way. But once shot at of course he was going to start shooting.

Very, very few people are murdered by complete strangers.

Yes...the people in this story gave the criminals everything they wanted, they were raped, then forced to have sex with each other to ammuse the violent sociopaths, then taken to their atms to get the monsters cash.....they got everything they wanted from the victims.....and then they were all shot in the back of the head....

Do you think they knew how the attack was going to end before they were kneeling in the cold field?

They did absolutely everything the crimianals wanted....everything.....


Wichita Massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Carr brothers, 22-year-old Reginald and 20-year-old Jonathan, already had lengthy criminal records when they began their spree based on robbery.[7] On December 8, 2000, having recently arrived in Wichita, they committed armed robberyagainst Andrew Schreiber, a 23-year-old assistant baseball coach. On December 11, three days later, they shot and mortally wounded 55-year-old cellist and librarian, Ann Walenta, as she tried to escape from them in her car; she died three days after the shooting.

Their crime spree culminated on December 14, when the Carrs invaded a home and subjected five young men and women to robbery, sexual abuse, and murder. The brothers broke into a house chosen nearly at random where Brad Heyka, Heather Muller, Aaron Sander, Jason Befort and his girlfriend, a young woman identified as 'H.G.', all in their twenties, were spending the night. They were all working adults: Befort was a local high school teacher; Heyka, a director of finance with a local financial services company; Muller, a local preschool teacher; and Sandler, a former financial analyst who had been studying to become a priest. H.G. is a teacher.

The Carrs initially scoured the house for valuables. H.G. learned of Befort's intent to propose marriage to her when the Carrs discovered the engagement ring he had hidden in a can of popcorn. After the search, the Carrs forced their hostages to strip naked, bound and detained them, and subjected them to various forms of sexual abuse, including rape and oral sex.[7] The brothers forced the men to engage in sexual acts with the women, and the women with each other. They drove the victims to ATMs to empty their bank accounts, before taking them to a snowy deserted soccer complex on the outskirts of town.

There they shot the five execution-style in the backs of their heads. The Carr brothers drove Befort's truck over the bodies and left them for dead.

H.G. survived her head wound at the soccer field because her plastic barrette deflected the bullet. After the killers left, she walked naked for more than a mile in freezing weather to seek first aid and shelter at a house. Before getting medical treatment, she reported the incident and descriptions of her attackers to the couple who took her in, even before the police arrived.

And super rare. Stop being so scared of something that will never happen to you.

Scared...no. Prepared, yes. And how do you know who it will, or will not happen to? Are you psychic?

Over 300 million people and very few examples of it happening. You are safe.

 

[2aguy]

You are the one who wants all victims disarmed

Correction: No one wants that, thats all in your head

All of your policies lead to exactly that…so yes, you want law abiding gun owners disarmed.

Repeating yourself and agreeing with yourself doesnt mean anything.

No one wants that, stop being dramatic

Yeah....keep saying that......

Democrat Candidate O'Malley Calls For Federal Gun Registry - Bearing Arms - 2016 Elections, Martin O'Malley

 

[hortysir]

Unless that person wasn't going to shoot.

Man had enough balls to step into another person's car
Also had the fortitude to point gun at woman

Is that a gamble you would be willing to take on SOMEONE ELSES'S life?

The low life asked for "all that he had"
His wife and kid was all he had, and he wasn't going to stand back and let this fucking parasite take them.

No greater love hath he than would lay down his life

And maybe the guy wanted some valuables as he was asking and then would be on his way. But once shot at of course he was going to start shooting.

Very, very few people are murdered by complete strangers.

Yes...the people in this story gave the criminals everything they wanted, they were raped, then forced to have sex with each other to ammuse the violent sociopaths, then taken to their atms to get the monsters cash.....they got everything they wanted from the victims.....and then they were all shot in the back of the head....

Do you think they knew how the attack was going to end before they were kneeling in the cold field?

They did absolutely everything the crimianals wanted....everything.....


Wichita Massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Carr brothers, 22-year-old Reginald and 20-year-old Jonathan, already had lengthy criminal records when they began their spree based on robbery.[7] On December 8, 2000, having recently arrived in Wichita, they committed armed robberyagainst Andrew Schreiber, a 23-year-old assistant baseball coach. On December 11, three days later, they shot and mortally wounded 55-year-old cellist and librarian, Ann Walenta, as she tried to escape from them in her car; she died three days after the shooting.

Their crime spree culminated on December 14, when the Carrs invaded a home and subjected five young men and women to robbery, sexual abuse, and murder. The brothers broke into a house chosen nearly at random where Brad Heyka, Heather Muller, Aaron Sander, Jason Befort and his girlfriend, a young woman identified as 'H.G.', all in their twenties, were spending the night. They were all working adults: Befort was a local high school teacher; Heyka, a director of finance with a local financial services company; Muller, a local preschool teacher; and Sandler, a former financial analyst who had been studying to become a priest. H.G. is a teacher.

The Carrs initially scoured the house for valuables. H.G. learned of Befort's intent to propose marriage to her when the Carrs discovered the engagement ring he had hidden in a can of popcorn. After the search, the Carrs forced their hostages to strip naked, bound and detained them, and subjected them to various forms of sexual abuse, including rape and oral sex.[7] The brothers forced the men to engage in sexual acts with the women, and the women with each other. They drove the victims to ATMs to empty their bank accounts, before taking them to a snowy deserted soccer complex on the outskirts of town.

There they shot the five execution-style in the backs of their heads. The Carr brothers drove Befort's truck over the bodies and left them for dead.

H.G. survived her head wound at the soccer field because her plastic barrette deflected the bullet. After the killers left, she walked naked for more than a mile in freezing weather to seek first aid and shelter at a house. Before getting medical treatment, she reported the incident and descriptions of her attackers to the couple who took her in, even before the police arrived.

And super rare. Stop being so scared of something that will never happen to you.

Scared...no. Prepared, yes. And how do you know who it will, or will not happen to? Are you psychic?

You left out the O and T in psychotic

 

[bodecea]

Oh well, these things happen.

 

[hortysir]

Oh well, these things happen.

His wife and kid appreciate the sentiment

I think the man should have a hero's funeral

 

[ClosedCaption]

You are the one who wants all victims disarmed

Correction: No one wants that, thats all in your head

All of your policies lead to exactly that…so yes, you want law abiding gun owners disarmed.

Repeating yourself and agreeing with yourself doesnt mean anything.

No one wants that, stop being dramatic

Yeah....keep saying that......

Democrat Candidate O'Malley Calls For Federal Gun Registry - Bearing Arms - 2016 Elections, Martin O'Malley

Hey, where's the disarming part? Is this your plan? To present any talks of guns to secretly mean banning?

 

[hortysir]

You are the one who wants all victims disarmed

Correction: No one wants that, thats all in your head

All of your policies lead to exactly that…so yes, you want law abiding gun owners disarmed.

Repeating yourself and agreeing with yourself doesnt mean anything.

No one wants that, stop being dramatic

Yeah....keep saying that......

Democrat Candidate O'Malley Calls For Federal Gun Registry - Bearing Arms - 2016 Elections, Martin O'Malley

Hey, where's the disarming part? Is this your plan? To present any talks of guns to secretly mean banning?

Gotta know where they're at before you can take them

 

[2aguy]

You are the one who wants all victims disarmed

Correction: No one wants that, thats all in your head

All of your policies lead to exactly that…so yes, you want law abiding gun owners disarmed.

Repeating yourself and agreeing with yourself doesnt mean anything.

No one wants that, stop being dramatic

Yeah....keep saying that......

Democrat Candidate O'Malley Calls For Federal Gun Registry - Bearing Arms - 2016 Elections, Martin O'Malley

Hey, where's the disarming part? Is this your plan? To present any talks of guns to secretly mean banning?

dipstick...there is no reason to register guns other than to enact a ban or buy back once you have the political muscle......

you can arrest a criminal who uses a gun to commit a crime right now...without registering one gun.


You can arrest a convicted felon for merely possessing a gun, right now...without registering one gun.

Please explain what registering gun does to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and mass shooters....

also...the Supreme Court has already ruled that criminals do not have to register their illegal guns because of Constitutional protections against self incrimination......


You know that...right?


so if criminals do not have to register their illegal guns.....why the fuck do law abiding people, who do not break the law and do not shoot other people have to register theirs?


because it is the first part of the two part process of banning guns...

 

[ClosedCaption]

See? Told ya!