Two proud boys Found Guilty

[Correll]

And if you defend yourself from assault and get arrested, that is a massive injustice, and if the reason for it is politics,


at that point, you are a political prisoner.


This is a massive collapse of the American system.

Obviously, the Proud Boys who were convicted weren't defending themselves. The court heard the EVIDENCE, not Jim's one sided and probably half made up story (I base the made-up part on his theory that the prosecutor is also Antifa).

There was a rumble. Some folks in the Proud Boys and in Antifa were happy to fight, no self-defense involved. The Proud Boys were so guilty the defense wouldn't even put them on the stand. Does that tell you anything? OP needs to quit whining. If you go to "mix it up" with folks and you actually do, you MIGHT get caught.

There was a proud boy event, and Antifa surrounded and harassed the event, before, during and after.


The Proud Boys in question, were leaving, trying to go home.


Do you know how it is, that the cops knew the names of the Proud Boys in question, but not the Antifa?

They weren't wearing masks? Don't be such a goomer.

I've often said, masks should never be allowed at a protest. Mask goes or you go. If I were Queen of the World, it would be illegal to wear a mask to a protest.

Anfta refused to speak to the cops. The Proud Boys gave their names to the cops that had been protected them from the violent mob all night. (either then or later)

And then the cops let them leave, because to the cops at the scene there was no reason to hold the Proud Boys. (or antifa,)


It was days later, when politicians got involved that charges were filed. For political reasons.


This is not about the fight, but about the politics of the Proud Boys, and the use of the power of the State against them.


This is pure oppression.


Even if you disagree with EVERYTHING the Proud Boys stand for, this should be a huge red flag for you.

During a one minute fight between a big crowd of people, it is impossible to be everywhere at once or see everything that happened. I believe the charges were filed days later because cops need evidence before they can arrest people, and they needed to review video and talk to witnesses before they could figure out who started what.

I do not believe this is the "power of the State" except in that no government condones riots.

That scenario does not explain why the cops let them go at that time.


And if I am remembering correctly, I'm not sure that the cops even asked the proud boys for their names at the time. They voluntarily came in, when it was announced the police were now investigating the incident.


You dont' do that, if you are planning to do an investigation. THe cops at the scene, thought it was over.

The decision to investigate, and charge, came from above, from politicians. For political reasons.



THis is not a matter of opinion. We can look up, and see who initiated the investigation, whether it was the police or because of a political decision made outside of the normal police process.


Do you want to do that? I'm operating from memory. I could have something wrong.

 

[JimBowie1958]

This whole episode is the epitome of what the alt-lite is fighting;
1) urban law enforcement with Marxists running things at the top to defend their thugs and jail any who resist. The same reasoning they do not like the public being allowed to own guns.

2) No matter what the evidence, Woketards will defend those designated as 'progressive' by Media Talking Heads, regardless what crime they have committed.

3) This nation is heading toward division as we cannot even discuss a well documented incident using the same sources of data.

4) We absolutely must have a Constitutional Amendment Article five Convention to repair the damage the Marxists have done.

This nation is coming to a watershed, and dividing the US into different political entities seems inevitable.

 

[JimBowie1958]

A jury, the Appeals court, and state supreme court thinks differently than you do Jim, and they had access to ALL of the facts and evidence.

and then promptly ignored most of the relevant facts and evidence to convict victims instead of the perpetrators because the victims dared to defend themselves.

Questions for you though to see your thinking on this:

1) Who attacked the place of the meeting the other was having the next night?

2) Who surrounded and yelled threats and broke property where the meeting was held like they did in Berkley?

3) Who tried to sneak away?

4) Who caught the other, pursued them, surrounded them and then began an assault by throwing objects at their victims?

5) What were the victims supposed to do? just stand there and die?

My Gawd, you sound like a 1940's American civilian defending the internment camps, 'The law says otherwise, dude. The Japanese have to report or be....I don't know treated harshly, or sumpin.'

roflmao, this is hilarious.

My country is a runaway train heading toward disaster and all I can do now is enjoy the popcorn.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

If the proud boys were black, terrorizing black people, the Democrats would fight for their release back into black neighborhoods.

So you don't want to deal with these coward ass Proud Boys, as usual you have to make it about black folks.

You people are making it about white folk

Touche

When you find some black proud boys let me know.

 

[Correll]

If the proud boys were black, terrorizing black people, the Democrats would fight for their release back into black neighborhoods.

So you don't want to deal with these coward ass Proud Boys, as usual you have to make it about black folks.

You people are making it about white folk

Touche

When you find some black proud boys let me know.

Enrique Tarrio, the chairman of Proud Boys.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Enrique Tarrio, the chairman of Proud Boys.

Your doing that 'Giving Evidence to a Woketard Fallacy' again.

Shame on you.

 

[Jets]

And that’s your opinion. Mine is that these are two forms of extremism representing both sides of the spectrum.

Because you are a shallow limp-wristed WOKETARD who cannot discern the difference between self defense vrs a mob hunting down, chasing surrounding and assaulting a handful of people trying to sneak away.

You are a hilarious joke, and I appreciate your illustration of what conservatives face in our nation today from institutionalized Marxism.

Oh please. Let me know when you want to have an actual discussion without the mudslinging. It’s beyond boring...

 

[Correll]

Enrique Tarrio, the chairman of Proud Boys.

Your doing that 'Giving Evidence to a Woketard Fallacy' again.

Shame on you.

I know. I wish I could see their faces, as time and time again, they are proven wrong.


The worst part though, is that I fear that all I am doing is teaching them to avoid any type of substance, and to just stick with the most stupid types of trolling.


Like Rightwinger does. I did that to him. I taught him that he was wrong, and now he doesn't even try to pretend anymore.

 

[miketx]

The NY Supreme Court found that two "proud boys" are guilty of attempted assault and other charges today. in court.

They face up to 15 years in prison for their crimes.

I hope they will be sentenced to the fullest extent of the law. Make an example of them. We won't tolerate such violence in America.

Proud Boys Members Convicted of Attempted Assault in Fight With Antifa

Fake news.

 

[Norman]

It's criminal that we have leaders who order the police to stand down as Antifa attacks innocent people.

And of course, it's somewhat ironic that that's exactly what fascism is.

And now, for having defended themselves, these people are put in jail, while Antifa who among other things bashed a head with a pipe, walks with slaps on the wrist.

 

[Correll]

It's criminal that we have leaders who order the police to stand down as Antifa attacks innocent people.

And of course, it's somewhat ironic that that's exactly what fascism is.

And now, for having defended themselves, these people are put in jail, while Antifa who among other things bashed a head with a pipe, walks with slaps on the wrist.

IN this case, the cops were doing and did their jobs.


They protected the Proud Boys from the mob for hours. It was when a few Proud Boys were leaving, heading home that they got jumped.


The cops broke it up, saw that no one was really hurt, and just let everyone go.


It was the NYC politicians that got involved days later, and ordered the political investigation.

 

[Norman]

It's criminal that we have leaders who order the police to stand down as Antifa attacks innocent people.

And of course, it's somewhat ironic that that's exactly what fascism is.

And now, for having defended themselves, these people are put in jail, while Antifa who among other things bashed a head with a pipe, walks with slaps on the wrist.

IN this case, the cops were doing and did their jobs.


They protected the Proud Boys from the mob for hours. It was when a few Proud Boys were leaving, heading home that they got jumped.


The cops broke it up, saw that no one was really hurt, and just let everyone go.


It was the NYC politicians that got involved days later, and ordered the political investigation.

Well yes and no. Since when is mobbing up and harassing people okay in the first place? Every last one of them should have been caught and prosecuted. Defending innocent people sure is better than nothing, but why isn't anyone cleaning up the criminal mob?

 

[Rustic]

The NY Supreme Court found that two "proud boys" are guilty of attempted assault and other charges today. in court.

They face up to 15 years in prison for their crimes.

I hope they will be sentenced to the fullest extent of the law. Make an example of them. We won't tolerate such violence in America.

Proud Boys Members Convicted of Attempted Assault in Fight With Antifa

Antifa are a bunch of pussies... The spineless cowards have to hide their faces. Most likely because they don’t want their moms to see them

 

[Correll]

It's criminal that we have leaders who order the police to stand down as Antifa attacks innocent people.

And of course, it's somewhat ironic that that's exactly what fascism is.

And now, for having defended themselves, these people are put in jail, while Antifa who among other things bashed a head with a pipe, walks with slaps on the wrist.

IN this case, the cops were doing and did their jobs.


They protected the Proud Boys from the mob for hours. It was when a few Proud Boys were leaving, heading home that they got jumped.


The cops broke it up, saw that no one was really hurt, and just let everyone go.


It was the NYC politicians that got involved days later, and ordered the political investigation.

Well yes and no. Since when is mobbing up and harassing people okay in the first place? Every last one of them should have been caught and prosecuted. Defending innocent people sure is better than nothing, but why isn't anyone cleaning up the criminal mob?

That is a valid point. Are there rules for when a crowed becomes a mob and can and should be legally dispersed?

 

[Correll]

The NY Supreme Court found that two "proud boys" are guilty of attempted assault and other charges today. in court.

They face up to 15 years in prison for their crimes.

I hope they will be sentenced to the fullest extent of the law. Make an example of them. We won't tolerate such violence in America.

Proud Boys Members Convicted of Attempted Assault in Fight With Antifa

Antifa are a bunch of pussies... The spineless coward to have to hide their faces. Most likely because they don’t want their moms to see them

Now, they are doing that most pussy of moves. Starting a fight and then tattling afterwards when they get their asses kicked.

 

[Norman]

It's criminal that we have leaders who order the police to stand down as Antifa attacks innocent people.

And of course, it's somewhat ironic that that's exactly what fascism is.

And now, for having defended themselves, these people are put in jail, while Antifa who among other things bashed a head with a pipe, walks with slaps on the wrist.

IN this case, the cops were doing and did their jobs.


They protected the Proud Boys from the mob for hours. It was when a few Proud Boys were leaving, heading home that they got jumped.


The cops broke it up, saw that no one was really hurt, and just let everyone go.


It was the NYC politicians that got involved days later, and ordered the political investigation.

Well yes and no. Since when is mobbing up and harassing people okay in the first place? Every last one of them should have been caught and prosecuted. Defending innocent people sure is better than nothing, but why isn't anyone cleaning up the criminal mob?

That is a valid point. Are there rules for when a crowed becomes a mob and can and should be legally dispersed?

When they act in unison to protect each other and make identification impossible, that's when. And when they start throwing bottles of pee, we have gone way past the point any sort of legal activity or protesting.

 

[Correll]

It's criminal that we have leaders who order the police to stand down as Antifa attacks innocent people.

And of course, it's somewhat ironic that that's exactly what fascism is.

And now, for having defended themselves, these people are put in jail, while Antifa who among other things bashed a head with a pipe, walks with slaps on the wrist.

IN this case, the cops were doing and did their jobs.


They protected the Proud Boys from the mob for hours. It was when a few Proud Boys were leaving, heading home that they got jumped.


The cops broke it up, saw that no one was really hurt, and just let everyone go.


It was the NYC politicians that got involved days later, and ordered the political investigation.

Well yes and no. Since when is mobbing up and harassing people okay in the first place? Every last one of them should have been caught and prosecuted. Defending innocent people sure is better than nothing, but why isn't anyone cleaning up the criminal mob?

That is a valid point. Are there rules for when a crowed becomes a mob and can and should be legally dispersed?

When they act in unison to protect each other and make identification impossible, that's when. And when they start throwing bottles of pee, we have gone way past the point any sort of legal activity or protesting.

Sounds like a pretty reasonable standard.

 

[miketx]

It's criminal that we have leaders who order the police to stand down as Antifa attacks innocent people.

And of course, it's somewhat ironic that that's exactly what fascism is.

And now, for having defended themselves, these people are put in jail, while Antifa who among other things bashed a head with a pipe, walks with slaps on the wrist.

IN this case, the cops were doing and did their jobs.


They protected the Proud Boys from the mob for hours. It was when a few Proud Boys were leaving, heading home that they got jumped.


The cops broke it up, saw that no one was really hurt, and just let everyone go.


It was the NYC politicians that got involved days later, and ordered the political investigation.

Well yes and no. Since when is mobbing up and harassing people okay in the first place? Every last one of them should have been caught and prosecuted. Defending innocent people sure is better than nothing, but why isn't anyone cleaning up the criminal mob?

Simple. The democrat crime party and its lawless bastards are in charge and want to inflict all the pain, hurt, and suffering they can upon any conservative Trump supporters.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

This is a politically motivated prosecution and this decision by NY leftist judges should be immediately appealed.
According to the OP police would have arrested Antifa members but they could not be identified.
So in a mutually declared fight don't be the ones the police can identify or identify with.

 

[OldLady]

This is what McGinnis was "humorously" reenacting. A Japanese nationalist politician, Inejiro Asanuma, pushing for Socialism in 1960 Japan was assassinated by a Far-Right nationalist who didn't agree. Sadly, it was being broadcast live on television in Japan, so it created a huge stir.

Explain, please, the mindset that has McGinnis reenacting this kind of scene and why the Proud Boys gathered would find it funny.

The Proud Boys do skits of left wingers being stabbed to death, and they laugh at it. They are peaceful dudes, though, really.
LOL