U.S. Veterans to form Human Shield at Dakota Pipeline Protest

[ClosedCaption]

I'd think all this protesting was stupid if not for routing the pipeline UNDER A LAKE?

I wouldn't want that either... wtf?

Go around it.

I have my own water well, and if the DNR came to my home and said they were going to dig under my well and run a fucking oil line, I'd tell them to go fuck themselves too.

Just imagine if it was under your water and on your land without permission. Then they shot at you for it.

 

[Lewdog]

The pipeline originally was supposed to go through north of Bismark, ND which is 95% White. They cut that plan because of a danger that the pipeline would burst and affect the water supply. Now they are running it through the Indian Reservation and saying there is no chance of the line breaking and contaminating the water supply... REALLY? Fucking REALLY?

Pipeline route plan first called for crossing north of Bismarck

How does natural gas contaminate anything?

You tell me... so why was the route changed? And why is it ok to worry about contamination for White people but not on an Indian Reservation?

 

[Lakhota]

Wow!

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By Terray Sylvester | CANNON BALL, N.D.
More than 2,000 U.S. military veterans plan to form a human shield to protect protesters of a pipeline project near a Native American reservation in North Dakota, organizers said, just ahead of a federal deadline for activists to leave the camp they have been occupying.

It comes as North Dakota law enforcement backed away from a previous plan to cut off supplies to the camp – an idea quickly abandoned after an outcry and with law enforcement’s treatment of Dakota Access Pipeline protesters increasingly under the microscope.

The protesters have spent months rallying against plans to route the $3.8 billion Dakota Access Pipeline beneath a lake near the Standing Rock Sioux reservation, saying it poses a threat to water resources and sacred Native American sites.

Protesters include various Native American tribes as well as environmentalists and even actors including Shailene Woodley.

State officials issued an order on Monday for activists to vacate the Oceti Sakowin camp, located on U.S. Army Corps of Engineers land near Cannon Ball, North Dakota, citing harsh weather conditions.

The state's latest decision not to stop cars entering the protest site indicated local officials will not actively enforce Monday's emergency order to evacuate the camp issued by Governor Jack Dalrymple.

Dalrymple warned on Wednesday that it was "probably not feasible" to reroute the pipeline, but said he had requested a meeting with the Standing Rock Sioux Tribal Council to rebuild a relationship.

"We need to begin now to talk about how we are going to return to a peaceful relationship,” he said on a conference call.

The 1,172-mile (1,885 km) pipeline project, owned by Texas-based Energy Transfer Partners LP (ETP.N), is mostly complete, except for a segment planned to run under Lake Oahe, a reservoir formed by a dam on the Missouri River.

Veterans Stand for Standing Rock, a contingent of more than 2,000 U.S. military veterans, intends to go to North Dakota by this weekend and form a human wall in front of police, protest organizers said on a Facebook page. Organizers could not immediately be reached for comment.

"I figured this was more important than anything else I could be doing,” Guy Dull Knife, 69, a Vietnam War Army veteran, told Reuters at the main camp.

Rest here: U.S. veterans to form human shield at Dakota pipeline protest

Thank you. The State Department says the pipeline would only create 35 permanent jobs.

Keystone XL Would Only Create 35 Permanent Jobs

 

[007]

They'd be killed.....like Wounded Knee.

As they should have been....warriors there refused to surrender their weapons and a small band brandished their weapons at Cav troopers......bad move.

Riiiiiiiiiiight... "look, a brave has a weapon, SLAUGHTER ALL THE WOMEN AND CHILDREN."

Gimme a break, it was a massacre, plain and simple. NOT something the Cavalry or America should EVER be proud of.

 

[Constructive Anarchy]

i don't know who is right or wrong on this issue . But probably not such a good idea to raise veteran status to such high levels so that veterans can get away with this kinda stuff .

Raise their status? Clearly some people have no idea of what is earned.

--------------------------------------------------- and no special status is ever earned , in these days of military volunteers looking for a job and training a military volunteer does their jobs and gets paid and thats the end of earning anything for veterans CAnarchy

Makes not one bit of sense. But it does sound like flaccid justification for people who have never risked anything for their country.

 

[pismoe]

i don't know who is right or wrong on this issue . But probably not such a good idea to raise veteran status to such high levels so that veterans can get away with this kinda stuff .

Get away with this kinda stuff? What kinda stuff?

------------------------------------------- i already answered , they protest as is their RIGHT but the fact that they are protesting veterans means nothing to me CCaption .

 

[Lewdog]

i don't know who is right or wrong on this issue . But probably not such a good idea to raise veteran status to such high levels so that veterans can get away with this kinda stuff .

Raise their status? Clearly some people have no idea of what is earned.

--------------------------------------------------- and no special status is ever earned , in these days of military volunteers looking for a job and training a military volunteer does their jobs and gets paid and thats the end of earning anything for veterans CAnarchy

So you are saying a veteran is no different than anyone else?

 

[bodecea]

The facts are simple. The pipeline does not cross tribal land. AND it follows the same route as the Northern Border pipeline.

The goal of the protestors is to stop the development of the Bakkens. Quite simple. Just like the bullshit that was pulled over the XL. That goal was to try to stop production in oil sands in Alberta.

Same enviro whacko bullshit. Different location.

These assholes are part of the "leave it in the ground" fools.

I have an idea....they can build pipelines on or near your property and 007's property, etc. And the land was part of the Fort Laramie treaty which has never been reputiated.

 

[Tom Horn]

Given the record of pipeline breaks under rivers, it would be better to go over, with a bridge, and containment structure that would be big enough to handle a blowout.

So one of your "ELF" assholes can sabotage it? Fuck that, fuck you.

 

[007]

The pipeline originally was supposed to go through north of Bismark, ND which is 95% White. They cut that plan because of a danger that the pipeline would burst and affect the water supply. Now they are running it through the Indian Reservation and saying there is no chance of the line breaking and contaminating the water supply... REALLY? Fucking REALLY?

Pipeline route plan first called for crossing north of Bismarck

How does natural gas contaminate anything?

You tell me... so why was the route changed? And why is it ok to worry about contamination for White people but not on an Indian Reservation?

Again... now read this closely... WHAT DOES NATURAL GAS CONTAMINATE? K? Understand the question now?

You tell me.

 

[Constructive Anarchy]

i don't know who is right or wrong on this issue . But probably not such a good idea to raise veteran status to such high levels so that veterans can get away with this kinda stuff .

Get away with this kinda stuff? What kinda stuff?

------------------------------------------- i already answered , they protest as is their RIGHT but the fact that they are protesting veterans means nothing to me CCaption .

The fact that it means nothing to you should mean nothing to anyone.

 

[Lewdog]

The pipeline originally was supposed to go through north of Bismark, ND which is 95% White. They cut that plan because of a danger that the pipeline would burst and affect the water supply. Now they are running it through the Indian Reservation and saying there is no chance of the line breaking and contaminating the water supply... REALLY? Fucking REALLY?

Pipeline route plan first called for crossing north of Bismarck

How does natural gas contaminate anything?

You tell me... so why was the route changed? And why is it ok to worry about contamination for White people but not on an Indian Reservation?

Again... now read this closely... WHAT DOES NATURAL GAS CONTAMINATE? K? Understand the question now?

You tell me.

and I told you... if it isn't going to contaminate anything, then why was it moved in the first place? Oh yeah... because the 95% White city was afraid it would contaminate their water supply. Do you NOT get it?

 

[007]

The facts are simple. The pipeline does not cross tribal land. AND it follows the same route as the Northern Border pipeline.

The goal of the protestors is to stop the development of the Bakkens. Quite simple. Just like the bullshit that was pulled over the XL. That goal was to try to stop production in oil sands in Alberta.

Same enviro whacko bullshit. Different location.

These assholes are part of the "leave it in the ground" fools.

I have an idea....they can build pipelines on or near your property and 007's property, etc. And the land was part of the Fort Laramie treaty which has never been reputiated.

I've got NATURAL GAS to my house, and I bet you do too, DUMBASS.

Now what? You got something even MORE STUPID to say?

 

[ClosedCaption]

i don't know who is right or wrong on this issue . But probably not such a good idea to raise veteran status to such high levels so that veterans can get away with this kinda stuff .

Get away with this kinda stuff? What kinda stuff?

------------------------------------------- i already answered , they protest as is their RIGHT but the fact that they are protesting veterans means nothing to me CCaption .

VETERANS protest and plan to break the law is 'this kinda stuff' i refer to .

But they arent breaking the law at all unless you're one of those guys who sees a protest and imagines violence and mayhem

 

[tinydancer]

I'd think all this protesting was stupid if not for routing the pipeline UNDER A LAKE?

I wouldn't want that either... wtf?

Go around it.

I have my own water well, and if the DNR came to my home and said they were going to dig under my well and run a fucking oil line, I'd tell them to go fuck themselves too.

The protest organizers even agreed to a plan where the pipeline gets built but with the route moved a little bit. It was refused.

Bullshit.

The Pipeline Was Moved Over Environmental Concerns

Energy Transfer Partners moved the project South near the Standing Rock reservation because it was 11 miles shorter and considered less damaging to the environment, according to a report the Army Corps of Engineers. The new pipeline also cost $23 million less than the initial route.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers evaluated the Bismarck route, eventually concluding it was not a viable option because of the project’s close proximity to the capital’s municipal water supply wells. The department also determined the northern route would have made it difficult to stay 500 or more feet away from homes, a policy required in North Dakota.

The southern route near Standing Rock’s reservation is mostly rural, making it easier for the pipeline to be constructed with as little environmental impact as possible.

Army Corps of Engineers, in fact, would later deem the new pipeline route crossing Lake Ohae safe in an environmental assessment, arguing that the ETP has “developed response and action plans, and will include several monitoring systems, shut-off valves, and other safety features to minimize the risk of spills and reduce…any potential damages


Read more: The Protests Over The Dakota Access Pipeline Explained

 

[Tom Horn]

When oil pressure in a pipeline drops, sensors go off and the flow is stopped. If there was a break under a lake bed, a slightly smaller pipe would be snaked through it and flow would continue within a couple days.....This ain't these boys' first rodeo, folks.

 

[bodecea]

i don't know who is right or wrong on this issue . But probably not such a good idea to raise veteran status to such high levels so that veterans can get away with this kinda stuff .

"this kinda stuff"? Exactly what do you mean by "this kinda stuff"?

----------------------------------------------------------------VETERANS protest and plan to break the law is 'this kinda stuff' i refer to . --------------------------- ALSO , Who cares if they are veterans as if veteran status makes their protest and possible lawbreaking acceptable and special Bodecea .

"protest"???????? that's illegal now?

 

[bodecea]

They'd be killed.....like Wounded Knee.

As they should have been....warriors there refused to surrender their weapons and a small band brandished their weapons at Cav troopers......bad move.

Was cool to mow down women and children in the freezing cold, wasn't it?

 

[007]

The pipeline originally was supposed to go through north of Bismark, ND which is 95% White. They cut that plan because of a danger that the pipeline would burst and affect the water supply. Now they are running it through the Indian Reservation and saying there is no chance of the line breaking and contaminating the water supply... REALLY? Fucking REALLY?

Pipeline route plan first called for crossing north of Bismarck

How does natural gas contaminate anything?

You tell me... so why was the route changed? And why is it ok to worry about contamination for White people but not on an Indian Reservation?

Again... now read this closely... WHAT DOES NATURAL GAS CONTAMINATE? K? Understand the question now?

You tell me.

and I told you... if it isn't going to contaminate anything, then why was it moved in the first place? Oh yeah... because the 95% White city was afraid it would contaminate their water supply. Do you NOT get it?

Are you INCAPABLE of ANSWERING A DIRECT, SIMPLE QUESTION?

WHAT DOES NATURAL GAS CONTAMINATE?

THAT RIGHT THERE... JUST ANSWER THAT... K?

Holy fuck...

 

[there4eyeM]

Veterans and a second amendment solution could be serious, unlike the couch potatoes' 'threat' of a few weeks ago.