UN Confirms: WMDs Smuggled Out of Iraq

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In a report which might alternately be termed “stunning” or “terrifying”, United Nations weapons inspectors confirmed last week not merely that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, but that he smuggled them out of his country, before, during and after the war.
Late last week, the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) briefed the Security Council on Saddam's lightning-fast dismantling of missile and WMD sites before and during the war. UNMOVIC executive chairman Demetrius Perricos detailed not only the export of thousands of tons of missile components, nuclear reactor vessels and fermenters for chemical and biological warheads, but also the discovery of many (but not most) of these items - with UN inspection tags still on them -- as far afield as Jordan, Turkey and even Holland.

Notably absent from that list is Iraq's western neighbor Syria, ruled by its own Baath Party just like Saddam's and closed to even the thought of an UNMOVIC inspection. Israeli intelligence has been reporting the large-scale smuggling of Saddam's WMD program across the Syrian border since at least two months before the war. Syria has long been the world's foremost state-sponsor of terrorism.

Perricos highlighted the proliferation danger to the Security Council, as well he should: UNMOVIC has no idea where most of the WMD material is today, just that it exists and it's gone; and anything in Syria is likely to be in Jerusalem or New York tomorrow.

This is the biggest news story of 2004 so far. Yet you haven't heard about it, have you?

You probably haven't heard about Canada's Prime Minister Paul Martin either -- a socialist and no friend of America. Addressing a group of 700 university researchers and business leaders in Montreal last month, Martin stated bluntly that terrorists have acquired WMDs from Saddam. “The fact is that there is now, we know well, a proliferation of nuclear weapons, and that many weapons that Saddam Huseein had, we don't know where they are…. [T]errorists have access to all of them,” the Canadian premier warned.

The tip of this terrorist sword was scarcely deflected on April 26th, when Jordanian intelligence broke up an al Qaeda conspiracy to detonate a large chemical device in the capital city of Amman. Directed by al Qaeda terrorist leader Abu al-Zarqawi -- the same man who personally beheaded American Nicholas Berg in Iraq last month -- the plotters sought to use a massive explosion to spread a “toxic cloud”, meant to wipe out the U.S. embassy, the Jordanian prime minister's office, the Jordanian intelligence headquarters, and at least 20,000 civilians (by contrast, only 3,000 died on 9/11). Over twenty tons of chemical weapons were seized from the conspirators, who were just days away from carrying out their plot.

One wonders where CNN and USA Today think twenty tons of nerve gas and sarin came from: Chemical Weapons-Mart? Yet their coverage, like most major media outlets, mentioned not a word about Saddam's smuggled WMDs, which -- according to liberal dogma -- “don't exist.”

Even though the UN says they do exist, now spread around the world.

Full story at The Vanguard
http://www.thevanguard.org/thevanguard/columns/040618.shtml?ID=13323
 
NightTrain said:
In a report which might alternately be termed “stunning” or “terrifying”, United Nations weapons inspectors confirmed last week not merely that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, but that he smuggled them out of his country, before, during and after the war.
Late last week, the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) briefed the Security Council on Saddam's lightning-fast dismantling of missile and WMD sites before and during the war. UNMOVIC executive chairman Demetrius Perricos detailed not only the export of thousands of tons of missile components, nuclear reactor vessels and fermenters for chemical and biological warheads, but also the discovery of many (but not most) of these items - with UN inspection tags still on them -- as far afield as Jordan, Turkey and even Holland.

Notably absent from that list is Iraq's western neighbor Syria, ruled by its own Baath Party just like Saddam's and closed to even the thought of an UNMOVIC inspection. Israeli intelligence has been reporting the large-scale smuggling of Saddam's WMD program across the Syrian border since at least two months before the war. Syria has long been the world's foremost state-sponsor of terrorism.

Perricos highlighted the proliferation danger to the Security Council, as well he should: UNMOVIC has no idea where most of the WMD material is today, just that it exists and it's gone; and anything in Syria is likely to be in Jerusalem or New York tomorrow.

This is the biggest news story of 2004 so far. Yet you haven't heard about it, have you?

You probably haven't heard about Canada's Prime Minister Paul Martin either -- a socialist and no friend of America. Addressing a group of 700 university researchers and business leaders in Montreal last month, Martin stated bluntly that terrorists have acquired WMDs from Saddam. “The fact is that there is now, we know well, a proliferation of nuclear weapons, and that many weapons that Saddam Huseein had, we don't know where they are…. [T]errorists have access to all of them,” the Canadian premier warned.

The tip of this terrorist sword was scarcely deflected on April 26th, when Jordanian intelligence broke up an al Qaeda conspiracy to detonate a large chemical device in the capital city of Amman. Directed by al Qaeda terrorist leader Abu al-Zarqawi -- the same man who personally beheaded American Nicholas Berg in Iraq last month -- the plotters sought to use a massive explosion to spread a “toxic cloud”, meant to wipe out the U.S. embassy, the Jordanian prime minister's office, the Jordanian intelligence headquarters, and at least 20,000 civilians (by contrast, only 3,000 died on 9/11). Over twenty tons of chemical weapons were seized from the conspirators, who were just days away from carrying out their plot.

One wonders where CNN and USA Today think twenty tons of nerve gas and sarin came from: Chemical Weapons-Mart? Yet their coverage, like most major media outlets, mentioned not a word about Saddam's smuggled WMDs, which -- according to liberal dogma -- “don't exist.”

Even though the UN says they do exist, now spread around the world.

Full story at The Vanguard
http://www.thevanguard.org/thevanguard/columns/040618.shtml?ID=13323

Damn, what Said and co have been warning of:
You probably haven't heard about Canada's Prime Minister Paul Martin either -- a socialist and no friend of America. Addressing a group of 700 university researchers and business leaders in Montreal last month, Martin stated bluntly that terrorists have acquired WMDs from Saddam. “The fact is that there is now, we know well, a proliferation of nuclear weapons, and that many weapons that Saddam Huseein had, we don't know where they are…. [T]errorists have access to all of them,” the Canadian premier warned.
officially Canada has been backing Chirac....
 
We all knew this, but Holland! That is disturbing.

Even more disturbing to me personally is the comments from the Candians mentioned by Kathianne.
 
don't they... Maybe by the 101st Airborne? I'll bet the area around Damascus is hot this time of year though, or perhaps the Bekka valley in Lebanon..? Maybe wait till after November the 2nd....
But I'm sure a Carrie er Kerry administration will be equally vigilant in the war on terror should he be elected........hahahahahahahahaha!!!
 
HGROKIT said:
It was known and proven; years ago. Only since we did something about it has the left used all means to spin the info to their agenda.

I was asking in regards to the shipping. We haven't done anything about it that I have heard of. It certainly hasn't been announced with certainty by the administration that we have hard evidence to prove that anything was shipped. All I have heard is suppositions. I would expect this sorta news to be shouted from the mountain tops by conservatives.
 
dilloduck said:
I was asking in regards to the shipping. We haven't done anything about it that I have heard of. It certainly hasn't been announced with certainty by the administration that we have hard evidence to prove that anything was shipped. All I have heard is suppositions. I would expect this sorta news to be shouted from the mountain tops by conservatives.

Well then, why the heck didn't you say so! :D

I think the suppositions were left as they were for a reason and that is, had there been any shouting from the mountain top without third pary confirmation, it would have been labled a ploy by the left.
 
Dang and I wasn't even invited to the first 2 parties ! :tinfoil:

( Is there a 3rd party the left would assent to if the facts backed up Bush? )
 
NightTrain said:
In a report which might alternately be termed “stunning” or “terrifying”, United Nations weapons inspectors confirmed last week not merely that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, but that he smuggled them out of his country, before, during and after the war.
Late last week, the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) briefed the Security Council on Saddam's lightning-fast dismantling of missile and WMD sites before and during the war. UNMOVIC executive chairman Demetrius Perricos detailed not only the export of thousands of tons of missile components, nuclear reactor vessels and fermenters for chemical and biological warheads, but also the discovery of many (but not most) of these items - with UN inspection tags still on them -- as far afield as Jordan, Turkey and even Holland. SNIP SNIP SNIP & SNIP

GOT LINK to the unmovic report referenced in the article. I sent an email to Vguard as well in case we cant find it here. No luck on Google.
 
I can't find it either, PG.. here's more, this guy has plenty of links as well in the original article :

Exporting Saddam's WMDs
By Ben Johnson
FrontPageMagazine.com | June 18, 2004

The assertion that Saddam Hussein had no Weapons of Mass Destruction prior to last year’s liberation has been rendered absurd – by United Nations weapons inspectors.

Demetrius Perricos, acting chairman of UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC), recently disclosed that his inspectors have been busily tracking shipments of illicit Iraqi WMD components around the world.

Full story : http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13835
 
Here's a quick overview of it, from the UN daily press briefing on 7/6/04 :

The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) for Iraq has just issued its seventeenth quarterly report to the Security Council.

In it, the Commission’s acting Executive Chairman, Demetrius Perricos, reports that UNMOVIC experts have been conducting investigations following the discovery of Iraqi missile engines in a scrap yard in the Netherlands.

While continuing its monitoring work through the use of commercial satellite imagery, UNMOVIC says that a number of sites in Iraq previously known to have contained equipment and materials subject to UNMOVIC monitoring have been either cleaned out or destroyed.

http://www.un.org/News/briefings/docs/2004/db060704.doc.htm
 
This story about the wmds being smuggled out of Iraq:

Are you sure this shipping out really took place recently (not long before the invasion, perhaps many years)?

The UNMOVIC report summary cited doesn't really say much:

>> **UNMOVIC

The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) for Iraq has just issued its seventeenth quarterly report to the Security Council.

In it, the Commission’s acting Executive Chairman, Demetrius Perricos, reports that UNMOVIC experts have been conducting investigations following the discovery of Iraqi missile engines in a scrap yard in the Netherlands. <<

How long ago were these engines shipped to the Netherlands? Are they really wmds? forbidden by Res. 1441? Were they really any danger? or just a technical violation of 1441 that was really of little consequence?

>>While continuing its monitoring work through the use of commercial satellite imagery, UNMOVIC says that a number of sites in Iraq previously known to have contained equipment and materials subject to UNMOVIC monitoring have been either cleaned out or destroyed.<<

When were they cleaned out or destroyed? What was cleaned out from them or destroyed? This doesn't say any wmds were at those sites recently. The wmds might have been eliminated from them years ago.

There needs to be something more definite -- wmds that are known to have been in Iraq recently.

These findings may account for some of those unaccounted-for wmds that Saddam once had. But it still hasn't been shown that he had anything at the time of the invasion.
 
freetrader said:
Are you sure this shipping out really took place recently (not long before the invasion, perhaps many years)?


Emmm....

Let's review, shall we?

NightTrain said:
In a report which might alternately be termed “stunning” or “terrifying”, United Nations weapons inspectors confirmed last week not merely that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, but that he smuggled them out of his country, before, during and after the war.

Late last week, the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) briefed the Security Council on Saddam's lightning-fast dismantling of missile and WMD sites before and during the war.
UNMOVIC executive chairman Demetrius Perricos detailed not only the export of thousands of tons of missile components, nuclear reactor vessels and fermenters for chemical and biological warheads, but also the discovery of many (but not most) of these items - with UN inspection tags still on them -- as far afield as Jordan, Turkey and even Holland.

If you'll read through the thread, you'll find that we don't have access to the UNMOVIC report, only a mention in a UN press briefing. That would indicate to me that the UN is not yet ready to release it to the press.

Understandable, since the yellowcake was found in a Dutch scrapyard. I would suspect there are hundreds of operations tracking every shipment around the world from Iraq to see what else has been shipped out with 'scrap metal'.
 
In a report which might alternately be termed “stunning” or “terrifying”, United Nations weapons inspectors confirmed last week not merely that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, but that he smuggled them out of his country, before, during and after the war.
Late last week, the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) briefed the Security Council on Saddam's lightning-fast dismantling of missile and WMD sites before and during the war. UNMOVIC executive chairman Demetrius Perricos detailed not only the export of thousands of tons of missile components, nuclear reactor vessels and fermenters for chemical and biological warheads, but also the discovery of many (but not most) of these items - with UN inspection tags still on them -- as far afield as Jordan, Turkey and even Holland.

Notably absent from that list is Iraq's western neighbor Syria, ruled by its own Baath Party just like Saddam's and closed to even the thought of an UNMOVIC inspection. Israeli intelligence has been reporting the large-scale smuggling of Saddam's WMD program across the Syrian border since at least two months before the war. Syria has long been the world's foremost state-sponsor of terrorism.

Perricos highlighted the proliferation danger to the Security Council, as well he should: UNMOVIC has no idea where most of the WMD material is today, just that it exists and it's gone; and anything in Syria is likely to be in Jerusalem or New York tomorrow.

This is the biggest news story of 2004 so far. Yet you haven't heard about it, have you?

You probably haven't heard about Canada's Prime Minister Paul Martin either -- a socialist and no friend of America. Addressing a group of 700 university researchers and business leaders in Montreal last month, Martin stated bluntly that terrorists have acquired WMDs from Saddam. “The fact is that there is now, we know well, a proliferation of nuclear weapons, and that many weapons that Saddam Huseein had, we don't know where they are…. [T]errorists have access to all of them,” the Canadian premier warned.

The tip of this terrorist sword was scarcely deflected on April 26th, when Jordanian intelligence broke up an al Qaeda conspiracy to detonate a large chemical device in the capital city of Amman. Directed by al Qaeda terrorist leader Abu al-Zarqawi -- the same man who personally beheaded American Nicholas Berg in Iraq last month -- the plotters sought to use a massive explosion to spread a “toxic cloud”, meant to wipe out the U.S. embassy, the Jordanian prime minister's office, the Jordanian intelligence headquarters, and at least 20,000 civilians (by contrast, only 3,000 died on 9/11). Over twenty tons of chemical weapons were seized from the conspirators, who were just days away from carrying out their plot.

One wonders where CNN and USA Today think twenty tons of nerve gas and sarin came from: Chemical Weapons-Mart? Yet their coverage, like most major media outlets, mentioned not a word about Saddam's smuggled WMDs, which -- according to liberal dogma -- “don't exist.”

Even though the UN says they do exist, now spread around the world.

Full story at The Vanguard
http://www.thevanguard.org/thevanguard/columns/040618.shtml?ID=13323
Your link takes you to an "about us" webpage that says nothing about your bullshit article. I can tell you right now, the UN never said such a thing. No weapons were sent to Syria. Why would any nation send weapons to their enemy? And how could a convoy of semi-trucks, traveling over a 1000 miles of open desert, in one of the most watched areas of the world, not be noticed by US satellites that can read a license plate from a 120 miles away?
 
This story about the wmds being smuggled out of Iraq:

Are you sure this shipping out really took place recently (not long before the invasion, perhaps many years)?

The UNMOVIC report summary cited doesn't really say much:

>> **UNMOVIC

The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) for Iraq has just issued its seventeenth quarterly report to the Security Council.

In it, the Commission’s acting Executive Chairman, Demetrius Perricos, reports that UNMOVIC experts have been conducting investigations following the discovery of Iraqi missile engines in a scrap yard in the Netherlands. <<

How long ago were these engines shipped to the Netherlands? Are they really wmds? forbidden by Res. 1441? Were they really any danger? or just a technical violation of 1441 that was really of little consequence?

>>While continuing its monitoring work through the use of commercial satellite imagery, UNMOVIC says that a number of sites in Iraq previously known to have contained equipment and materials subject to UNMOVIC monitoring have been either cleaned out or destroyed.<<

When were they cleaned out or destroyed? What was cleaned out from them or destroyed? This doesn't say any wmds were at those sites recently. The wmds might have been eliminated from them years ago.

There needs to be something more definite -- wmds that are known to have been in Iraq recently.

These findings may account for some of those unaccounted-for wmds that Saddam once had. But it still hasn't been shown that he had anything at the time of the invasion.
According to UN inspector Hans Blix, Iraq hadn't had WMD's since 1993 and because of us bombing them back to the stone age, they had no ability to make any since then.
 
In a report which might alternately be termed “stunning” or “terrifying”, United Nations weapons inspectors confirmed last week not merely that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, but that he smuggled them out of his country, before, during and after the war.
Late last week, the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) briefed the Security Council on Saddam's lightning-fast dismantling of missile and WMD sites before and during the war. UNMOVIC executive chairman Demetrius Perricos detailed not only the export of thousands of tons of missile components, nuclear reactor vessels and fermenters for chemical and biological warheads, but also the discovery of many (but not most) of these items - with UN inspection tags still on them -- as far afield as Jordan, Turkey and even Holland.

Notably absent from that list is Iraq's western neighbor Syria, ruled by its own Baath Party just like Saddam's and closed to even the thought of an UNMOVIC inspection. Israeli intelligence has been reporting the large-scale smuggling of Saddam's WMD program across the Syrian border since at least two months before the war. Syria has long been the world's foremost state-sponsor of terrorism.

Perricos highlighted the proliferation danger to the Security Council, as well he should: UNMOVIC has no idea where most of the WMD material is today, just that it exists and it's gone; and anything in Syria is likely to be in Jerusalem or New York tomorrow.

This is the biggest news story of 2004 so far. Yet you haven't heard about it, have you?

You probably haven't heard about Canada's Prime Minister Paul Martin either -- a socialist and no friend of America. Addressing a group of 700 university researchers and business leaders in Montreal last month, Martin stated bluntly that terrorists have acquired WMDs from Saddam. “The fact is that there is now, we know well, a proliferation of nuclear weapons, and that many weapons that Saddam Huseein had, we don't know where they are…. [T]errorists have access to all of them,” the Canadian premier warned.

The tip of this terrorist sword was scarcely deflected on April 26th, when Jordanian intelligence broke up an al Qaeda conspiracy to detonate a large chemical device in the capital city of Amman. Directed by al Qaeda terrorist leader Abu al-Zarqawi -- the same man who personally beheaded American Nicholas Berg in Iraq last month -- the plotters sought to use a massive explosion to spread a “toxic cloud”, meant to wipe out the U.S. embassy, the Jordanian prime minister's office, the Jordanian intelligence headquarters, and at least 20,000 civilians (by contrast, only 3,000 died on 9/11). Over twenty tons of chemical weapons were seized from the conspirators, who were just days away from carrying out their plot.

One wonders where CNN and USA Today think twenty tons of nerve gas and sarin came from: Chemical Weapons-Mart? Yet their coverage, like most major media outlets, mentioned not a word about Saddam's smuggled WMDs, which -- according to liberal dogma -- “don't exist.”

Even though the UN says they do exist, now spread around the world.

Full story at The Vanguard
http://www.thevanguard.org/thevanguard/columns/040618.shtml?ID=13323

Bullshit, from the same source your propaganda site names:

"October 6, 2004 - The final Iraq Survey Group report is released. The report concludes that Saddam Hussein did not possess weapons of mass destruction."

Iraq Weapons Inspections Fast Facts - CNN.com
 

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