Unfettered Capitalism

[georgephillip]

Mises didn't.

Mises didn't understand markets are creations of government regulations, not unlike money, corporations, and courts. Would you care to do business in markets without courts?

 

[bripat9643]

Mises didn't.

Mises didn't understand markets are creations of government regulations, not unlike money, corporations, and courts. Would you care to do business in markets without courts?

Wrong again, moron. Do you really believe there were no markets around before government came into being? Everything in your list existed prior to government regulations.

 

[dblack]

Liberals love this phrase. Maybe I have a limited vocabulary, but I wasn't really sure what "fettered" meant. So I looked it up:

Any questions?

Yeah. Why do you think the super rich ought to have total unaccountable power over your life?

This is how stupid Democrats are.

You don't want businesses to have to compete for your business. Too risky, they would take advantage of you.

So you want government to eliminate competition and force us all to have the same thing.

Talk about "unaccountable."

The funny part being you proved the point that people use terms they don't understand.

Occupied: I want ONE choice, I don't want some unaccountable choice ...

Quit confusing free enterprise with capitalism. They are not the same thing.

They're the same as far as I'm concerned. But maybe you're using different definitions. How do they differ in your view?

 

[initforme]

Capitalism is great... As long as it is regulated to a high degree. To trust big corporations to do the right thing to me is anti american.

 

[dblack]

Capitalism is great... As long as it is regulated to a high degree. To trust big corporations to do the right thing to me is anti american.

If government is calling the shots, it's corporatism, not capitalism.

 

[occupied]

Liberals love this phrase. Maybe I have a limited vocabulary, but I wasn't really sure what "fettered" meant. So I looked it up:

Any questions?

Yeah. Why do you think the super rich ought to have total unaccountable power over your life?

This is how stupid Democrats are.

You don't want businesses to have to compete for your business. Too risky, they would take advantage of you.

So you want government to eliminate competition and force us all to have the same thing.

Talk about "unaccountable."

The funny part being you proved the point that people use terms they don't understand.

Occupied: I want ONE choice, I don't want some unaccountable choice ...

Quit confusing free enterprise with capitalism. They are not the same thing.

They're the same as far as I'm concerned. But maybe you're using different definitions. How do they differ in your view?

Capitalism as it is practiced in America is a thing of vast fortunes buying and selling political power to protect monopoly. It is ultimately the greatest barrier to regular people engaging in what I call free enterprise. Investing in themselves and their talents to build personal wealth. You have only as much social mobility as the capitalists and their banks allow you to have.

 

[UsernameKyle]

Liberals love this phrase. Maybe I have a limited vocabulary, but I wasn't really sure what "fettered" meant. So I looked it up:

Any questions?

Modern day slavery.

 

[fncceo]

Why do you think the super rich ought to have total unaccountable power over your life?

Depends on how much they're paying me.

 

[bripat9643]

Liberals love this phrase. Maybe I have a limited vocabulary, but I wasn't really sure what "fettered" meant. So I looked it up:

Any questions?

Yeah. Why do you think the super rich ought to have total unaccountable power over your life?

This is how stupid Democrats are.

You don't want businesses to have to compete for your business. Too risky, they would take advantage of you.

So you want government to eliminate competition and force us all to have the same thing.

Talk about "unaccountable."

The funny part being you proved the point that people use terms they don't understand.

Occupied: I want ONE choice, I don't want some unaccountable choice ...

Quit confusing free enterprise with capitalism. They are not the same thing.

They're the same as far as I'm concerned. But maybe you're using different definitions. How do they differ in your view?

Capitalism as it is practiced in America is a thing of vast fortunes buying and selling political power to protect monopoly. It is ultimately the greatest barrier to regular people engaging in what I call free enterprise. Investing in themselves and their talents to build personal wealth. You have only as much social mobility as the capitalists and their banks allow you to have.

You're a fucking commie pushing commie propaganda.

Who are you trying to fool?

 

[bripat9643]

Capitalism is great... As long as it is regulated to a high degree. To trust big corporations to do the right thing to me is anti american.

The government is always in cahoots with the big corporations, so I don't know why you trust the former.

 

[dblack]

Liberals love this phrase. Maybe I have a limited vocabulary, but I wasn't really sure what "fettered" meant. So I looked it up:

Any questions?

Yeah. Why do you think the super rich ought to have total unaccountable power over your life?

This is how stupid Democrats are.

You don't want businesses to have to compete for your business. Too risky, they would take advantage of you.

So you want government to eliminate competition and force us all to have the same thing.

Talk about "unaccountable."

The funny part being you proved the point that people use terms they don't understand.

Occupied: I want ONE choice, I don't want some unaccountable choice ...

Quit confusing free enterprise with capitalism. They are not the same thing.

They're the same as far as I'm concerned. But maybe you're using different definitions. How do they differ in your view?

Capitalism as it is practiced in America is a thing of vast fortunes buying and selling political power to protect monopoly.

Ahh... ok. Well, my definition of capitalism precludes collusion with government - so we are using different definitions. We should definitely reject that.

 

[occupied]

Liberals love this phrase. Maybe I have a limited vocabulary, but I wasn't really sure what "fettered" meant. So I looked it up:

Any questions?

Yeah. Why do you think the super rich ought to have total unaccountable power over your life?

This is how stupid Democrats are.

You don't want businesses to have to compete for your business. Too risky, they would take advantage of you.

So you want government to eliminate competition and force us all to have the same thing.

Talk about "unaccountable."

The funny part being you proved the point that people use terms they don't understand.

Occupied: I want ONE choice, I don't want some unaccountable choice ...

Quit confusing free enterprise with capitalism. They are not the same thing.

They're the same as far as I'm concerned. But maybe you're using different definitions. How do they differ in your view?

Capitalism as it is practiced in America is a thing of vast fortunes buying and selling political power to protect monopoly.

Ahh... ok. Well, my definition of capitalism precludes collusion with government - so we are using different definitions. We should definitely reject that.

Modern capitalism cannot operate without owning the government, writing their own regulations and "managing" democracy. The ultimate goal of capitalism is not wealth but the power that it buys. If you cannot afford to hire a lobbying firm you cannot afford to practice modern capitalism.

 

[dblack]

Modern capitalism cannot operate without owning the government, writing their own regulations and "managing" democracy.

If that's how you define it, I spose so.

That's not the definition I'm using. Government colluding with business is just a form of corporatism. Kind of the worst of both worlds when it comes to the capitalism/socialism debate.

But you say you're in favor of free enterprise, and that doen't jibe with most of the posts of yours that I've read. Seems like you want government controlling trade, right?

 

[occupied]

Modern capitalism cannot operate without owning the government, writing their own regulations and "managing" democracy.

If that's how you define it, I spose so.

But that's not the definition I'm using. Government colluding with business is just a form of corporatism. Kind of the worst of both worlds when it comes to the capitalism/socialism debate.

You should really use the definition that reflects reality rather than some purist definition that cannot possibly exist in a greedy world full of unscrupulous people. We live in a corporate world where everything is for sale and you only get as much freedom and justice as you can afford. That's capitalism as practiced.

 

[dblack]

Modern capitalism cannot operate without owning the government, writing their own regulations and "managing" democracy.

If that's how you define it, I spose so.

But that's not the definition I'm using. Government colluding with business is just a form of corporatism. Kind of the worst of both worlds when it comes to the capitalism/socialism debate.

You should really use the definition that reflects reality rather than some purist definition that cannot possibly exist in a greedy world full of unscrupulous people. We live in a corporate world where everything is for sale and you only get as much freedom and justice as you can afford. That's capitalism as practiced.

There's not need to accept that as a given, but whatever. You don't seem to be willing to consider anything else.

Still, you said you support free enterprise. In what fashion? As I said, pretty much everything I've read from you speaks to the opposite viewpoint. You seem to be very excited about government controlling trade. How are you defining "free enterprise"?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Speaking of pictures of people in chains, prison is a liberal utopia.

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1. Everything is provided "free" from taxpayers like free food, medical, cloths, shelter.

2. Everyone is treated the "same" and no one lives better than the other

3. Everyone is "safe" so long as they stay in their safe zone jail cell.

4. Every day is gay pride day.

5. There is no opportunity to make bad decisions, like eating junk food, polluting, destroying the environment, etc.

I'm stealing this shit from you, dammit!!!

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Mac, you're not making a good case for NOT being a closet commie. I know you're not, but you appear to either be sympathetic to it or naive as fuck. You come off pinko, just saying.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Capitalism is great... As long as it is regulated to a high degree. To trust big corporations to do the right thing to me is anti american.

Regulation is how the bigger guys beat down the smaller competition. It causes the very problem you are trying to prevent.

 

[bripat9643]

Liberals love this phrase. Maybe I have a limited vocabulary, but I wasn't really sure what "fettered" meant. So I looked it up:

Any questions?

Yeah. Why do you think the super rich ought to have total unaccountable power over your life?

This is how stupid Democrats are.

You don't want businesses to have to compete for your business. Too risky, they would take advantage of you.

So you want government to eliminate competition and force us all to have the same thing.

Talk about "unaccountable."

The funny part being you proved the point that people use terms they don't understand.

Occupied: I want ONE choice, I don't want some unaccountable choice ...

Quit confusing free enterprise with capitalism. They are not the same thing.

They're the same as far as I'm concerned. But maybe you're using different definitions. How do they differ in your view?

Capitalism as it is practiced in America is a thing of vast fortunes buying and selling political power to protect monopoly.

Ahh... ok. Well, my definition of capitalism precludes collusion with government - so we are using different definitions. We should definitely reject that.

Modern capitalism cannot operate without owning the government, writing their own regulations and "managing" democracy. The ultimate goal of capitalism is not wealth but the power that it buys. If you cannot afford to hire a lobbying firm you cannot afford to practice modern capitalism.

Marxist propaganda. You're a fucking commie. Just admit it.

 

[bripat9643]

Modern capitalism cannot operate without owning the government, writing their own regulations and "managing" democracy.

If that's how you define it, I spose so.

That's not the definition I'm using. Government colluding with business is just a form of corporatism. Kind of the worst of both worlds when it comes to the capitalism/socialism debate.

But you say you're in favor of free enterprise, and that doen't jibe with most of the posts of yours that I've read. Seems like you want government controlling trade, right?

He's a Marxist. He's made that quite clear..