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He is a commie. He's made that quite clear.Mac, you're not making a good case for NOT being a closet commie. I know you're not, but you appear to either be sympathetic to it or naive as fuck. You come off pinko, just saying.
Commie propaganda.You should really use the definition that reflects reality rather than some purist definition that cannot possibly exist in a greedy world full of unscrupulous people. We live in a corporate world where everything is for sale and you only get as much freedom and justice as you can afford. That's capitalism as practiced.Modern capitalism cannot operate without owning the government, writing their own regulations and "managing" democracy.
If that's how you define it, I spose so.
But that's not the definition I'm using. Government colluding with business is just a form of corporatism. Kind of the worst of both worlds when it comes to the capitalism/socialism debate.
Only to willfully ignorant Talk Radio Trumpsters.Mac, you're not making a good case for NOT being a closet commie. I know you're not, but you appear to either be sympathetic to it or naive as fuck. You come off pinko, just saying.
Okay, I admit it, I'm the world's only communist CFP/Investment Advisor.He is a commie. He's made that quite clear.Mac, you're not making a good case for NOT being a closet commie. I know you're not, but you appear to either be sympathetic to it or naive as fuck. You come off pinko, just saying.
Yes we do have unfettered capitalism in the land of of the free and home of the brave.That's what "unfettered capitalism" is. An amoral system where the super rich are untouchable by the same system of laws that can easily cost you everything.Yeah. Why do you think the super rich ought to have total unaccountable power over your life?Liberals love this phrase. Maybe I have a limited vocabulary, but I wasn't really sure what "fettered" meant. So I looked it up:
Any questions?
I don't. Spare me the strawman.
It won't happen unless or until people stop looking at everything, including capitalism, through a darkly distorted partisan political lens.Yes we do have unfettered capitalism in the land of of the free and home of the brave.That's what "unfettered capitalism" is. An amoral system where the super rich are untouchable by the same system of laws that can easily cost you everything.Yeah. Why do you think the super rich ought to have total unaccountable power over your life?Liberals love this phrase. Maybe I have a limited vocabulary, but I wasn't really sure what "fettered" meant. So I looked it up:
Any questions?
I don't. Spare me the strawman.
Big corporations control the politicians, government, media, science, and academia. Government regulators have little power to regulate and most of them are in the revolving door moving easily from government to industry and back.
Laws are enacted to protect the big corporations. For example, big pharma which controls almost everything in the US (has a huge army of lobbyists in DC buying protective legislation) is protected from lawsuits by consumers damaged by their products. This has been true since the 1980s.
Then you have the big war corporations of the MIC. They too have an army of lobbyists and always get what they want from Uncle Sam.
It’s not capitalism. It’s a racket.
When will the American people wake up and put a stop to this criminal racket?
If we're limiting our discussion of money and markets and courts to Western Civilization, it was in the palaces and temples that commerce began.Wrong again, moron. Do you really believe there were no markets around before government came into being? Everything in your list existed prior to government regulations.
the palace, and out from there to the general population, which may be allowed its own sources of income but relies heavily on the wealth redistributed by the palace.
How does your definition of those two terms differ from this one?If government is calling the shots, it's corporatism, not capitalism.
Because the latter doesn't exist without the former.The government is always in cahoots with the big corporations, so I don't know why you trust the former.
No you aren't. You are a fucking commie.Only to willfully ignorant Talk Radio Trumpsters.Mac, you're not making a good case for NOT being a closet commie. I know you're not, but you appear to either be sympathetic to it or naive as fuck. You come off pinko, just saying.
I'm a far better capitalist than they'll ever be.
Wrong, as always. Our current problem stems from too much government control of private companies.Because the latter doesn't exist without the former.The government is always in cahoots with the big corporations, so I don't know why you trust the former.
Our current problems stem mainly from too much corporate control of government.
"1. Capitalism is an economic system that recognizes individual rights while corporatism is a political and economic system that seeks social justice and equality among individuals.
"2. The key player in a capitalist society is the individual who must work for his own well being while the central figure in a corporatist society is the political community that must work for the individual’s self-fulfillment and happiness.
"3. Capitalism is an individualist society while corporatism is collectivist."
If we're limiting our discussion of money and markets and courts to Western Civilization, it was in the palaces and temples that commerce began.Wrong again, moron. Do you really believe there were no markets around before government came into being? Everything in your list existed prior to government regulations.
Palace economy - Wikipedia
"A palace economy or redistribution economy[1] is a system of economic organization in which a substantial share of the wealth flows into the control of a centralized administration,
"It was traditionally justified on the principle that the palace was most capable of distributing wealth efficiently for the benefit of society.[2][3]."
Wrong, as always. Our current problem stems from too much government control of private companies.Because the latter doesn't exist without the former.The government is always in cahoots with the big corporations, so I don't know why you trust the former.
Our current problems stem mainly from too much corporate control of government.
You have that exactly backwards and it reveals a lack of understanding.Wrong, as always. Our current problem stems from too much government control of private companies.Because the latter doesn't exist without the former.The government is always in cahoots with the big corporations, so I don't know why you trust the former.
Our current problems stem mainly from too much corporate control of government.
That's commie propaganda. A commie will always blame private owners before he blames government.You have that exactly backwards and it reveals a lack of understanding.Wrong, as always. Our current problem stems from too much government control of private companies.Because the latter doesn't exist without the former.The government is always in cahoots with the big corporations, so I don't know why you trust the former.
Our current problems stem mainly from too much corporate control of government.
We have too much control of government by big corporations and wealthy individuals.
Wake the fuck up! This isn’t 1980.
Capitalism as it is practiced in America is a thing of vast fortunes buying and selling political power to protect monopoly. It is ultimately the greatest barrier to regular people engaging in what I call free enterprise. Investing in themselves and their talents to build personal wealth. You have only as much social mobility as the capitalists and their banks allow you to have.They're the same as far as I'm concerned. But maybe you're using different definitions. How do they differ in your view?Quit confusing free enterprise with capitalism. They are not the same thing.Yeah. Why do you think the super rich ought to have total unaccountable power over your life?Liberals love this phrase. Maybe I have a limited vocabulary, but I wasn't really sure what "fettered" meant. So I looked it up:
Any questions?
This is how stupid Democrats are.
You don't want businesses to have to compete for your business. Too risky, they would take advantage of you.
So you want government to eliminate competition and force us all to have the same thing.
Talk about "unaccountable."
The funny part being you proved the point that people use terms they don't understand.
Occupied: I want ONE choice, I don't want some unaccountable choice ...
Ironically, the real socialists very much appreciate people like you.No you aren't. You are a fucking commie.Only to willfully ignorant Talk Radio Trumpsters.Mac, you're not making a good case for NOT being a closet commie. I know you're not, but you appear to either be sympathetic to it or naive as fuck. You come off pinko, just saying.
I'm a far better capitalist than they'll ever be.
Correct. All they (think they) know is 100% free market capitalism OR 100% miserable communism. That's it. Two choices. That's all.Unfettered Capitalism only exists in right wing fantasy.
