Unfettered Capitalism

[danielpalos]

Every Trump supporter is better informed about the workings and implications of the economy than Biden himself.

It’s amazing the stupid shit they believe. They are exactly like the Obamabots in the idiotic shit they believe. No wonder we’re so divided and our government is nothing but a bunch of crooks.

"They believe" is the problem. They really believe it.

What you and other TDS morons believe is the problem. Do you believe the protests in Seattle and Portland are "mostly peaceful?" Do you believe Trump is responsible for COVID? Do you believe we had a good economy under Obama?

There are good people on both sides. He could have done much better. That administration turned a recession around.

 

[danielpalos]

Unfettered Capitalism only exists in right wing fantasy.

Correct. All they (think they) know is 100 % free market capitalism OR 100% miserable communism. That's it. Two choices. That's all.

This is what confining a person to comically limited and carefully controlled "facts" and "information" and "opinion" does to people over time.

A true, modern-day, cautionary tale. Don't let this happen to you.

You're jumping the shark, Mac!

How?

The stereotyping, the black and white moralizing. "They...."

Well, that's my problem with our current binary political environment.

A vast majority of Trumpsters (a relatively easy populace to identify) are terribly mal-informed about the workings and implications of the economy and the stock market. Stuck in a terribly binary thinking pattern about most things.

That's my perception, and that's how I proceed. And I said "a vast majority" - there are exceptions to every rule.

Your perception is nothing but bias. Every Trump supporter is better informed about the workings and implications of the economy than Biden himself. Yet, morons like you will vote for him.

Sorry, met too many Trump supporters to buy that. Most of them don't know free markets from tariffs.

You have me confused with someone who accepts testimonial evidence.

lol. only appeals to your fantastical right wing majority.

 

[BertramN]

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Predatory capitalism or parasitic capitalism, either would better describe the United States' form capitalism than unfettered.

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[/QUOTE]I believe Congress would do better by asking Academia to provide Pareto optimal solutions than pandering to the Richest.
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The ruling billionaire class here in the United States is just that, the ruling class. Until the voters understand the super-rich are not the nation's benevolent benefactors, but are in fact, the greediest bunch of a$$holes in the history of the planet, average Americans will continue to allow the fat cats to screw them.

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[bripat9643]

Every Trump supporter is better informed about the workings and implications of the economy than Biden himself.

It’s amazing the stupid shit they believe. They are exactly like the Obamabots in the idiotic shit they believe. No wonder we’re so divided and our government is nothing but a bunch of crooks.

"They believe" is the problem. They really believe it.

What you and other TDS morons believe is the problem. Do you believe the protests in Seattle and Portland are "mostly peaceful?" Do you believe Trump is responsible for COVID? Do you believe we had a good economy under Obama?

There are good people on both sides. He could have done much better. That administration turned a recession around.

False. The economy was already on the rebound when Obama was inaugurated.

 

[danielpalos]

Every Trump supporter is better informed about the workings and implications of the economy than Biden himself.

It’s amazing the stupid shit they believe. They are exactly like the Obamabots in the idiotic shit they believe. No wonder we’re so divided and our government is nothing but a bunch of crooks.

"They believe" is the problem. They really believe it.

What you and other TDS morons believe is the problem. Do you believe the protests in Seattle and Portland are "mostly peaceful?" Do you believe Trump is responsible for COVID? Do you believe we had a good economy under Obama?

There are good people on both sides. He could have done much better. That administration turned a recession around.

False. The economy was already on the rebound when Obama was inaugurated.

Maybe in right wing fantasy. Continuing upward Trends is what your had to work with.

 

[dblack]

The ruling billionaire class here in the United States is just that, the ruling class. Until the voters understand the super-rich are not the nation's benevolent benefactors, but are in fact, the greediest bunch of a$$holes in the history of the planet, average Americans will continue to allow the fat cats to screw them.

Save the "class" nonsense for your marxist friends. We don't have "classes" in the US. You might argue we have a "ruling elite", comprised of the two-party duopoly, but that's only because idiots keep voting for them. Consider:

“It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."
"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"
"No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."
"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
"I did," said Ford. "It is."
"So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't people get rid of the lizards?"
"It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."
"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"
"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."
"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"
"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?"
"What?"
"I said," said Ford, with an increasing air of urgency creeping into his voice, "have you got any gin?"
"I'll look. Tell me about the lizards."
Ford shrugged again.
"Some people say that the lizards are the best thing that ever happenned to them," he said. "They're completely wrong of course, completely and utterly wrong, but someone's got to say it."
"But that's terrible," said Arthur.
"Listen, bud," said Ford, "if I had one Altairian dollar for every time I heard one bit of the Universe look at another bit of the Universe and say 'That's terrible' I wouldn't be sitting here like a lemon looking for a gin.”

― Douglas Adams, So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish

https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/3078120

 

[dblack]

Every Trump supporter is better informed about the workings and implications of the economy than Biden himself.

It’s amazing the stupid shit they believe. They are exactly like the Obamabots in the idiotic shit they believe. No wonder we’re so divided and our government is nothing but a bunch of crooks.

"They believe" is the problem. They really believe it.

What you and other TDS morons believe is the problem. Do you believe the protests in Seattle and Portland are "mostly peaceful?" Do you believe Trump is responsible for COVID? Do you believe we had a good economy under Obama?

There are good people on both sides. He could have done much better. That administration turned a recession around.

False. The economy was already on the rebound when Obama was inaugurated.

I absolutely don't want politicians "turning a recession around" or "promoting economic growth" or "creating jobs" or "stimulating the economy" or any of the horseshit they're always trying to take credit for. The economy should be left to "we the people". Government has no business meddling.

 

[danielpalos]

Every Trump supporter is better informed about the workings and implications of the economy than Biden himself.

It’s amazing the stupid shit they believe. They are exactly like the Obamabots in the idiotic shit they believe. No wonder we’re so divided and our government is nothing but a bunch of crooks.

"They believe" is the problem. They really believe it.

What you and other TDS morons believe is the problem. Do you believe the protests in Seattle and Portland are "mostly peaceful?" Do you believe Trump is responsible for COVID? Do you believe we had a good economy under Obama?

There are good people on both sides. He could have done much better. That administration turned a recession around.

False. The economy was already on the rebound when Obama was inaugurated.

I absolutely don't want politicians "turning a recession around" or "promoting economic growth" or "creating jobs" or "stimulating the economy" or any of the horseshit they're always trying to take credit for. The economy should be left to "we the people". Government has no business meddling.

Capitalism is only about boom and bust and the inequality of scarcity.

 

[bripat9643]

Every Trump supporter is better informed about the workings and implications of the economy than Biden himself.

It’s amazing the stupid shit they believe. They are exactly like the Obamabots in the idiotic shit they believe. No wonder we’re so divided and our government is nothing but a bunch of crooks.

"They believe" is the problem. They really believe it.

What you and other TDS morons believe is the problem. Do you believe the protests in Seattle and Portland are "mostly peaceful?" Do you believe Trump is responsible for COVID? Do you believe we had a good economy under Obama?

There are good people on both sides. He could have done much better. That administration turned a recession around.

False. The economy was already on the rebound when Obama was inaugurated.

I absolutely don't want politicians "turning a recession around" or "promoting economic growth" or "creating jobs" or "stimulating the economy" or any of the horseshit they're always trying to take credit for. The economy should be left to "we the people". Government has no business meddling.

Fine, but what's the alternative? $4 trillion in tax increases? Outlawing fossil fuels? Massive social engineering of our suburbs?

Anyone who's happy with the Democrat agenda is an idiot.

 

[bripat9643]

Every Trump supporter is better informed about the workings and implications of the economy than Biden himself.

It’s amazing the stupid shit they believe. They are exactly like the Obamabots in the idiotic shit they believe. No wonder we’re so divided and our government is nothing but a bunch of crooks.

"They believe" is the problem. They really believe it.

What you and other TDS morons believe is the problem. Do you believe the protests in Seattle and Portland are "mostly peaceful?" Do you believe Trump is responsible for COVID? Do you believe we had a good economy under Obama?

There are good people on both sides. He could have done much better. That administration turned a recession around.

False. The economy was already on the rebound when Obama was inaugurated.

I absolutely don't want politicians "turning a recession around" or "promoting economic growth" or "creating jobs" or "stimulating the economy" or any of the horseshit they're always trying to take credit for. The economy should be left to "we the people". Government has no business meddling.

Capitalism is only about boom and bust and the inequality of scarcity.

If you want to see real scarcity, then vote for socialism.

 

[bripat9643]

Every Trump supporter is better informed about the workings and implications of the economy than Biden himself.

It’s amazing the stupid shit they believe. They are exactly like the Obamabots in the idiotic shit they believe. No wonder we’re so divided and our government is nothing but a bunch of crooks.

"They believe" is the problem. They really believe it.

What you and other TDS morons believe is the problem. Do you believe the protests in Seattle and Portland are "mostly peaceful?" Do you believe Trump is responsible for COVID? Do you believe we had a good economy under Obama?

There are good people on both sides. He could have done much better. That administration turned a recession around.

False. The economy was already on the rebound when Obama was inaugurated.

Maybe in right wing fantasy. Continuing upward Trends is what your had to work with.

That's what Obama had to work with, moron. Furthermore, it's much easier to start from a low point than it is to start from a much higher point.

 

[danielpalos]

Every Trump supporter is better informed about the workings and implications of the economy than Biden himself.

It’s amazing the stupid shit they believe. They are exactly like the Obamabots in the idiotic shit they believe. No wonder we’re so divided and our government is nothing but a bunch of crooks.

"They believe" is the problem. They really believe it.

What you and other TDS morons believe is the problem. Do you believe the protests in Seattle and Portland are "mostly peaceful?" Do you believe Trump is responsible for COVID? Do you believe we had a good economy under Obama?

There are good people on both sides. He could have done much better. That administration turned a recession around.

False. The economy was already on the rebound when Obama was inaugurated.

I absolutely don't want politicians "turning a recession around" or "promoting economic growth" or "creating jobs" or "stimulating the economy" or any of the horseshit they're always trying to take credit for. The economy should be left to "we the people". Government has no business meddling.

Capitalism is only about boom and bust and the inequality of scarcity.

If you want to see real scarcity, then vote for socialism.

Corporate welfare is doing just fine. It even pays out multimillion dollar bonuses.

From 1978 to 2018, CEO compensation grew by 1,007.5% (940.3% under the options-realized measure), far outstripping S&P stock market growth (706.7%) and the wage growth of very high earners (339.2%). In contrast, wages for the typical worker grew by just 11.9%.--https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-compensation-2018/

 

[danielpalos]

Every Trump supporter is better informed about the workings and implications of the economy than Biden himself.

It’s amazing the stupid shit they believe. They are exactly like the Obamabots in the idiotic shit they believe. No wonder we’re so divided and our government is nothing but a bunch of crooks.

"They believe" is the problem. They really believe it.

What you and other TDS morons believe is the problem. Do you believe the protests in Seattle and Portland are "mostly peaceful?" Do you believe Trump is responsible for COVID? Do you believe we had a good economy under Obama?

There are good people on both sides. He could have done much better. That administration turned a recession around.

False. The economy was already on the rebound when Obama was inaugurated.

Maybe in right wing fantasy. Continuing upward Trends is what your had to work with.

That's what Obama had to work with, moron. Furthermore, it's much easier to start from a low point than it is to start from a much higher point.

All you have is right wing fantasy not any valid argument. You make it soo easy to resort to the fewest fallacies.

 

[dblack]

I absolutely don't want politicians "turning a recession around" or "promoting economic growth" or "creating jobs" or "stimulating the economy" or any of the horseshit they're always trying to take credit for. The economy should be left to "we the people". Government has no business meddling.

Fine, but what's the alternative?

The alternative is government NOT meddling. Isn't that obvious?

 

[georgephillip]

Wrong, as always. Our current problem stems from too much government control of private companies.

If that's true, why are many of the richest individuals alive today richer than they've ever been in spite of a global pandemic/recession?

"Car company Tesla forced all workers to take a 10 percent pay cut from mid-April until July.

"In the same period, Tesla stock skyrocketed, and CEO Elon Musk’s net worth has now quadrupled from $25 billion to over $100 billion.

"Business software company Salesforce announced record sales levels one day and layoffs of 1,000 workers the next. The company’s stock rose 26 percent."

"SEPTEMBER 3, 2020
In the Worst of Times, the Billionaire Elite Plunder Working Class America
by NICK BAKER"

 

[dblack]

Wrong, as always. Our current problem stems from too much government control of private companies.

If that's true, why are many of the richest individuals alive today richer than they've ever been in spite of a global pandemic/recession?

Because government meddling always benefits some at the expense of others.

 

[bripat9643]

I absolutely don't want politicians "turning a recession around" or "promoting economic growth" or "creating jobs" or "stimulating the economy" or any of the horseshit they're always trying to take credit for. The economy should be left to "we the people". Government has no business meddling.

Fine, but what's the alternative?

The alternative is government NOT meddling. Isn't that obvious?

You have two alternatives to vote for, moron. Which one is the closest to what you want?

 

[bripat9643]

Wrong, as always. Our current problem stems from too much government control of private companies.

If that's true, why are many of the richest individuals alive today richer than they've ever been in spite of a global pandemic/recession?

"Car company Tesla forced all workers to take a 10 percent pay cut from mid-April until July.

"In the same period, Tesla stock skyrocketed, and CEO Elon Musk’s net worth has now quadrupled from $25 billion to over $100 billion.

"Business software company Salesforce announced record sales levels one day and layoffs of 1,000 workers the next. The company’s stock rose 26 percent."

"SEPTEMBER 3, 2020
In the Worst of Times, the Billionaire Elite Plunder Working Class America
by NICK BAKER"

It's because the country is many times richer than it ever has been. How many people had a 65 inch flat screen TV in 1980? Smart phone? Computer?

 

[dblack]

I absolutely don't want politicians "turning a recession around" or "promoting economic growth" or "creating jobs" or "stimulating the economy" or any of the horseshit they're always trying to take credit for. The economy should be left to "we the people". Government has no business meddling.

Fine, but what's the alternative?

The alternative is government NOT meddling. Isn't that obvious?

You have two alternatives to vote for, moron. Which one is the closest to what you want?

*sigh* - THAT tired nonsense? You limit yourself to two alternatives because you've bought the party line.

 

[bripat9643]

I absolutely don't want politicians "turning a recession around" or "promoting economic growth" or "creating jobs" or "stimulating the economy" or any of the horseshit they're always trying to take credit for. The economy should be left to "we the people". Government has no business meddling.

Fine, but what's the alternative?

The alternative is government NOT meddling. Isn't that obvious?

You have two alternatives to vote for, moron. Which one is the closest to what you want?

*sigh* - THAT tired nonsense? You limit yourself to two alternatives because you've bought the party line.

What's the other alternative?