Universal Basic Income: Biden's Best Bet?

[danielpalos]

Promote and provide for the general welfare of the People!

Yet you want individual welfare provided. Do you understand words?

You only have fallacy (of argumentum ad hominem) not any valid arguments. Your "gospel Truth" is not here but there.

 

[hadit]

Equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation in our at-will employment States could be accomplished by executive order.

Automatic stabilization of our economy now!

How can we have unused productive capacity and mass unemployment at the same time?

What Is the Output Gap? - Back to Basics - Finance & Development, September 2013

"The output gap is an economic measure of the difference between the actual output of an economy and its potential output.

"Potential output is the maximum amount of goods and services an economy can turn out when it is most efficient—that is, at full capacity.

"Often, potential output is referred to as the production capacity of the economy."

We don't or should not have have a supply problem with supply side economics; we only have a demand problem, which solving for simple poverty can solve.

So that would be 1000 dollars times 12 time 350 million a year. That equals 4 trillion and 200 billion dollars a year. So all those tax increases that is proposed. What would the lower classes be on the hook for? That may destabilize the economy. The increases in prices of everything may be very high inflation to hyper inflation. I am not an economist though.

Inflation should not be a problem with supply side economics. That is why we need to increase the minimum wage so capitalists can automate for their bottom line.

Taxation is just not the Federal Wage Income Tax and the social Security/Medicare Tax. There are many taxes and many hidden ones. they add up. That is part of what make people who earn the minimum salaries tough. Those taxes and fees are embedded in everything we do. Its like a cycle that has to keep pushing the wage up as the taxes increase and the inflation rises. We do not even get the official amount of money in circulation anymore from the government as they are printing it up to keep the system solvent.

Higher paid labor creates more in demand and generates more in tax revenue. A positive multiplier applies.

So let's lay off everyone who earns less than $50/hr. That'll work wonders.

Your idea not mine; why don't You, take point on it?

I'm illustrating your absurdity by being absurd. You're enamored with paying everyone more so they pay more in taxes, I'm just pointing out that it comes at a price, something you won't acknowledge. And guess who would be hit the hardest by the lack of jobs when we double the MW overnight?

Young, unskilled, uneducated black men, that's who would be hit the hardest. Did you realize that you would be doing that?

 

[Orangecat]

Higher paid labor creates more in demand and generates more in tax revenue. A positive multiplier applies.

Higher paid labor creates greater employment costs which are addressed by raising consumer prices and eliminating jobs.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation in our at-will employment States could be accomplished by executive order.

Automatic stabilization of our economy now!

How can we have unused productive capacity and mass unemployment at the same time?

What Is the Output Gap? - Back to Basics - Finance & Development, September 2013

"The output gap is an economic measure of the difference between the actual output of an economy and its potential output.

"Potential output is the maximum amount of goods and services an economy can turn out when it is most efficient—that is, at full capacity.

"Often, potential output is referred to as the production capacity of the economy."

We don't or should not have have a supply problem with supply side economics; we only have a demand problem, which solving for simple poverty can solve.

So that would be 1000 dollars times 12 time 350 million a year. That equals 4 trillion and 200 billion dollars a year. So all those tax increases that is proposed. What would the lower classes be on the hook for? That may destabilize the economy. The increases in prices of everything may be very high inflation to hyper inflation. I am not an economist though.

Inflation should not be a problem with supply side economics. That is why we need to increase the minimum wage so capitalists can automate for their bottom line.

Taxation is just not the Federal Wage Income Tax and the social Security/Medicare Tax. There are many taxes and many hidden ones. they add up. That is part of what make people who earn the minimum salaries tough. Those taxes and fees are embedded in everything we do. Its like a cycle that has to keep pushing the wage up as the taxes increase and the inflation rises. We do not even get the official amount of money in circulation anymore from the government as they are printing it up to keep the system solvent.

Higher paid labor creates more in demand and generates more in tax revenue. A positive multiplier applies.

So let's lay off everyone who earns less than $50/hr. That'll work wonders.

Your idea not mine; why don't You, take point on it?

Shut up faggot

 

[Wyatt earp]

Promote and provide for the general welfare of the People!

Yet you want individual welfare provided. Do you understand words?

You only have fallacy (of argumentum ad hominem) not any valid arguments. Your "gospel Truth" is not here but there.

Faggot

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Almost everyone's aware of Alaska's Permanent Fund:

"...The program began in 1976 after the discovery of oil on Alaska’s North Slope.

"The then-governor, a renegade Republican named Jay Hammond, concluded that this windfall was too good to just give to the oil companies.

"So he devised the program to share the revenue with Alaska residents...."

"OK, here’s the idea for President-elect Biden:

"Bring 20 of the Trumpiest-looking Alaskans to a press conference.

"Unveil a plan whereby every man, woman, and child gets a $1,000 check every month from the government.

"Finance it with taxes on large wealth, fossil fuels, financial transactions, and intellectual property resulting from taxpayer-funded public research.

"Invite the Alaskans to describe the joy of getting their checks: no middleman, no means tests, no government forms to fill out—just free money as everyone’s share of the American commons.

"Dare Mitch McConnell to oppose it."

A Big, Simple, Winning Issue for Biden

The "American commons" are the cultural and natural resources accessible to all members of society. In a time when the privileged few expand their vast fortunes despite a global pandemic and recession, it seems fitting to socialize the profits and privatize the losses.

Does anyone believe "Delaware Joe" will turn on his corporate benefactors?

328 million Americans * $1,000/month = $328 billion/month.
$328 billion/month * 12 months = $3.9 trillion/year.

Fun times indeed. Where is the almost $4 trillion going to come from, Bill Gates?

That's McConnell's response that kills the whole thing.

Moscow Mitch wouldn't do it if it was $.05 a year.

He's scum who cares nothing for Americans.

Irrelevant. It's a stupid idea.

What's irrelevant about the senate majority leader not caring about the people he's supposed to be working for?

its not his job to take care or provide for the people,,

That government is, or ought to be, instituted for the common benefit, protection, and security of the people,
nation, or community; of all the various modes and forms of government, that is best which is capable of producing
the greatest degree of happiness and safety, and is most effectually secured against the danger of maladministration;
and, whenever any government shall be found inadequate or contrary to these purposes, a majority of the community
hath an indubitable, inalienable, and indefeasible right to reform, alter, or abolish it, in such manner as shall be
judged most conducive to the public weal.--Virginia State Constitution

And a state government is free to set itself up that way. The federal government is supposed to ensure free commerce and travel between states as well as the common defense. It is not supposed to oversee every individual's retirement accounts.

Equal protection of the laws is also in our federal Constitution.

Who is not getting equal protection under that law? Be specific.

Anyone being required to have a work ethic. We have a First Amendment and equal protection of the laws is expressly declared in our federal and State Constitutions.

1st amendment?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Almost everyone's aware of Alaska's Permanent Fund:

"...The program began in 1976 after the discovery of oil on Alaska’s North Slope.

"The then-governor, a renegade Republican named Jay Hammond, concluded that this windfall was too good to just give to the oil companies.

"So he devised the program to share the revenue with Alaska residents...."

"OK, here’s the idea for President-elect Biden:

"Bring 20 of the Trumpiest-looking Alaskans to a press conference.

"Unveil a plan whereby every man, woman, and child gets a $1,000 check every month from the government.

"Finance it with taxes on large wealth, fossil fuels, financial transactions, and intellectual property resulting from taxpayer-funded public research.

"Invite the Alaskans to describe the joy of getting their checks: no middleman, no means tests, no government forms to fill out—just free money as everyone’s share of the American commons.

"Dare Mitch McConnell to oppose it."

A Big, Simple, Winning Issue for Biden

The "American commons" are the cultural and natural resources accessible to all members of society. In a time when the privileged few expand their vast fortunes despite a global pandemic and recession, it seems fitting to socialize the profits and privatize the losses.

Does anyone believe "Delaware Joe" will turn on his corporate benefactors?

There have already been proposals along these lines from Democrats like Kamala Harris.

Personally I think they are a great idea. This is America, the richest, best country in the world. We should have no one living in poverty here.

But you haven't done the math

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Employment is at the will of either party.

How so?

Employers do not have to hire me even in Right to Work States.

Of course they don't. Employers are not required to hire anyone, much less whiny dickbags like yourself.

Employment is at-will. I automatically qualify for unemployment compensation.

So if everyone under the equal protections laws automatically qualify for unemployment compensation, why should anyone work?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

UC is not a Constitutional right, it is a benefit set up specifically to help those who are laid off from their jobs until they can find new employment.

Equal protection of the laws is a Constitutional right.

Quote the portion of UC law that says you qualify.

Our State Constitution says I can't be denied equal protection of the laws.

So if i come in with an out of state Conceal carry from another state, then i cant be denied equal protection.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Employment is at the will of either party.

How so?

Employers do not have to hire me even in Right to Work States.

Of course they don't. Employers are not required to hire anyone, much less whiny dickbags like yourself.

Employment is at-will. I automatically qualify for unemployment compensation.

So if everyone under the equal protections laws automatically qualify for unemployment compensation, why should anyone work?

Don't encourage that retard.

 

[Orangecat]

I gainsay your contention, want to argue about it?

You babble senseless bullshit. Biden is not the chief magistrate of anything.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Employment is at the will of either party.

How so?

Employers do not have to hire me even in Right to Work States.

Of course they don't. Employers are not required to hire anyone, much less whiny dickbags like yourself.

Employment is at-will. I automatically qualify for unemployment compensation.

So if everyone under the equal protections laws automatically qualify for unemployment compensation, why should anyone work?

Don't encourage that retard.

Just trying to get the slave to think, i know it is like banging my head on concrete block or talking to a wall, but sometimes, i think i might get through that thick skull...

 

[Oldestyle]

Almost everyone's aware of Alaska's Permanent Fund:

"...The program began in 1976 after the discovery of oil on Alaska’s North Slope.

"The then-governor, a renegade Republican named Jay Hammond, concluded that this windfall was too good to just give to the oil companies.

"So he devised the program to share the revenue with Alaska residents...."

"OK, here’s the idea for President-elect Biden:

"Bring 20 of the Trumpiest-looking Alaskans to a press conference.

"Unveil a plan whereby every man, woman, and child gets a $1,000 check every month from the government.

"Finance it with taxes on large wealth, fossil fuels, financial transactions, and intellectual property resulting from taxpayer-funded public research.

"Invite the Alaskans to describe the joy of getting their checks: no middleman, no means tests, no government forms to fill out—just free money as everyone’s share of the American commons.

"Dare Mitch McConnell to oppose it."

A Big, Simple, Winning Issue for Biden

The "American commons" are the cultural and natural resources accessible to all members of society. In a time when the privileged few expand their vast fortunes despite a global pandemic and recession, it seems fitting to socialize the profits and privatize the losses.

Does anyone believe "Delaware Joe" will turn on his corporate benefactors?

Yeah that would be a great idea if every State had a huge windfall of money coming into it from oil exploration like Alaska! One of the dumber things posted on this board today!!!

 

[22lcidw]

Higher paid labor creates more in demand and generates more in tax revenue. A positive multiplier applies.

Higher paid labor creates inflation.

What doesn't create inflation? They had inflation even with slavery.

Promote and provide for the general welfare of the People!

That is not entirely true. A Fiat Currency by its own very nature has inflation because it is printed out of thin air. Nations use it as close to what the productivity and the total transactions of their economy, yearly. Supposedly it is just above the Gross National Product. But it is higher then that in many economies. some much higher. Inflation comes from that. Increases in salary above the productivity causes inflation and there are others. The added inducement to inflation is the Politician. Who under the Republic and the Gold and Silver Standard made the tough decisions and the price of everything was stable for long periods of time unless there were emergencies. That is not so with the Federal Reserve Currency and the loss of the Republic and the gain of Democracy. The World is awash in massive debts. and the world elitists move the debt money from one place to another as needed to forestall a collapse. If they want to do that. They have power over the governments as their national debts grow. For they are in charge of printing the money in many nations. They own corporations that are licensed to do that. And they will not give it up so easily. Anyway to Alaskans came from the money from a resource. .oil. You are gambling this on taxing organizations in the hope of them finding resources/creating new technologies and/ or profits will continue. The Fiat Currency has great increases in wealth. It also has great decreases and can destabilize quickly. Deficit spending does not bring the growth it once did also.

 

[Oldestyle]

Not to mention the fact that Biden is going to clamp down on the fossil fuel industry which means those checks will most likely be drying up for the people of Alaska!

 

[Oldestyle]

Equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation in our at-will employment States could be accomplished by executive order.

Automatic stabilization of our economy now!

How can we have unused productive capacity and mass unemployment at the same time?

What Is the Output Gap? - Back to Basics - Finance & Development, September 2013

"The output gap is an economic measure of the difference between the actual output of an economy and its potential output.

"Potential output is the maximum amount of goods and services an economy can turn out when it is most efficient—that is, at full capacity.

"Often, potential output is referred to as the production capacity of the economy."

We don't or should not have have a supply problem with supply side economics; we only have a demand problem, which solving for simple poverty can solve.

And right on cue...Daniel is here talking gibberish!

 

[Wyatt earp]

Almost everyone's aware of Alaska's Permanent Fund:

"...The program began in 1976 after the discovery of oil on Alaska’s North Slope.

"The then-governor, a renegade Republican named Jay Hammond, concluded that this windfall was too good to just give to the oil companies.

"So he devised the program to share the revenue with Alaska residents...."

"OK, here’s the idea for President-elect Biden:

"Bring 20 of the Trumpiest-looking Alaskans to a press conference.

"Unveil a plan whereby every man, woman, and child gets a $1,000 check every month from the government.

"Finance it with taxes on large wealth, fossil fuels, financial transactions, and intellectual property resulting from taxpayer-funded public research.

"Invite the Alaskans to describe the joy of getting their checks: no middleman, no means tests, no government forms to fill out—just free money as everyone’s share of the American commons.

"Dare Mitch McConnell to oppose it."

A Big, Simple, Winning Issue for Biden

The "American commons" are the cultural and natural resources accessible to all members of society. In a time when the privileged few expand their vast fortunes despite a global pandemic and recession, it seems fitting to socialize the profits and privatize the losses.

Does anyone believe "Delaware Joe" will turn on his corporate benefactors?

Yeah that would be a great idea if every State had a huge windfall of money coming into it from oil exploration like Alaska! One of the dumber things posted on this board today!!!

Exactly, what is this guy thinking the money will come from?

 

[Crepitus]

Almost everyone's aware of Alaska's Permanent Fund:

"...The program began in 1976 after the discovery of oil on Alaska’s North Slope.

"The then-governor, a renegade Republican named Jay Hammond, concluded that this windfall was too good to just give to the oil companies.

"So he devised the program to share the revenue with Alaska residents...."

"OK, here’s the idea for President-elect Biden:

"Bring 20 of the Trumpiest-looking Alaskans to a press conference.

"Unveil a plan whereby every man, woman, and child gets a $1,000 check every month from the government.

"Finance it with taxes on large wealth, fossil fuels, financial transactions, and intellectual property resulting from taxpayer-funded public research.

"Invite the Alaskans to describe the joy of getting their checks: no middleman, no means tests, no government forms to fill out—just free money as everyone’s share of the American commons.

"Dare Mitch McConnell to oppose it."

A Big, Simple, Winning Issue for Biden

The "American commons" are the cultural and natural resources accessible to all members of society. In a time when the privileged few expand their vast fortunes despite a global pandemic and recession, it seems fitting to socialize the profits and privatize the losses.

Does anyone believe "Delaware Joe" will turn on his corporate benefactors?

328 million Americans * $1,000/month = $328 billion/month.
$328 billion/month * 12 months = $3.9 trillion/year.

Fun times indeed. Where is the almost $4 trillion going to come from, Bill Gates?

That's McConnell's response that kills the whole thing.

Moscow Mitch wouldn't do it if it was $.05 a year.

He's scum who cares nothing for Americans.

Irrelevant. It's a stupid idea.

What's irrelevant about the senate majority leader not caring about the people he's supposed to be working for?

its not his job to take care or provide for the people,,

Actually, as a senator, that precisely what his job is.

where can I find that in the constitution??

NB4 - The General Welfare Clause....

general welfare doesnt mean picking winners you steal from and losers you give it too,,,

thats the opposite of general welfare

Nobody is stealing anything.

 

[Crepitus]

Almost everyone's aware of Alaska's Permanent Fund:

"...The program began in 1976 after the discovery of oil on Alaska’s North Slope.

"The then-governor, a renegade Republican named Jay Hammond, concluded that this windfall was too good to just give to the oil companies.

"So he devised the program to share the revenue with Alaska residents...."

"OK, here’s the idea for President-elect Biden:

"Bring 20 of the Trumpiest-looking Alaskans to a press conference.

"Unveil a plan whereby every man, woman, and child gets a $1,000 check every month from the government.

"Finance it with taxes on large wealth, fossil fuels, financial transactions, and intellectual property resulting from taxpayer-funded public research.

"Invite the Alaskans to describe the joy of getting their checks: no middleman, no means tests, no government forms to fill out—just free money as everyone’s share of the American commons.

"Dare Mitch McConnell to oppose it."

A Big, Simple, Winning Issue for Biden

The "American commons" are the cultural and natural resources accessible to all members of society. In a time when the privileged few expand their vast fortunes despite a global pandemic and recession, it seems fitting to socialize the profits and privatize the losses.

Does anyone believe "Delaware Joe" will turn on his corporate benefactors?

328 million Americans * $1,000/month = $328 billion/month.
$328 billion/month * 12 months = $3.9 trillion/year.

Fun times indeed. Where is the almost $4 trillion going to come from, Bill Gates?

That's McConnell's response that kills the whole thing.

Moscow Mitch wouldn't do it if it was $.05 a year.

He's scum who cares nothing for Americans.

Irrelevant. It's a stupid idea.

What's irrelevant about the senate majority leader not caring about the people he's supposed to be working for?

its not his job to take care or provide for the people,,

Actually, as a senator, that precisely what his job is.

where can I find that in the constitution??

So, you are claiming that it's not a senators job to look after the best interests of his/her constituents?

What do you think their job is?

whats the constitution say???

Don't dodge the question.

not a dodge,, you claimed it was so the burden is on you to show where it says they are to care and provide for the people,,,

Stop dodging the question.

 

[Oldestyle]

Almost everyone's aware of Alaska's Permanent Fund:

"...The program began in 1976 after the discovery of oil on Alaska’s North Slope.

"The then-governor, a renegade Republican named Jay Hammond, concluded that this windfall was too good to just give to the oil companies.

"So he devised the program to share the revenue with Alaska residents...."

"OK, here’s the idea for President-elect Biden:

"Bring 20 of the Trumpiest-looking Alaskans to a press conference.

"Unveil a plan whereby every man, woman, and child gets a $1,000 check every month from the government.

"Finance it with taxes on large wealth, fossil fuels, financial transactions, and intellectual property resulting from taxpayer-funded public research.

"Invite the Alaskans to describe the joy of getting their checks: no middleman, no means tests, no government forms to fill out—just free money as everyone’s share of the American commons.

"Dare Mitch McConnell to oppose it."

A Big, Simple, Winning Issue for Biden

The "American commons" are the cultural and natural resources accessible to all members of society. In a time when the privileged few expand their vast fortunes despite a global pandemic and recession, it seems fitting to socialize the profits and privatize the losses.

Does anyone believe "Delaware Joe" will turn on his corporate benefactors?

Yeah that would be a great idea if every State had a huge windfall of money coming into it from oil exploration like Alaska! One of the dumber things posted on this board today!!!

Exactly, what is this guy thinking the money will come from?

Ah, from the very thing that every card carrying liberal is hell bent on getting rid of? LOL They aren't the sharpest tools in the shed, Bear!