Update on Waffle house shooting over no smoking request…yep, a gun free zone, and he had a record.

[2aguy]

This came up as one of the anti gunners pointed to the event posted in November trying to make a dumb point about people carrying guns.

As I reported after it happened, I had called the corporate headquarters to ask if they had a gun free zone policy in their restaurants….and yes, they did….

Now I have it confirmed in a news story and it also came out the shooter had suffered a traumatic brain injury and had a record of misdemeanor crimes…

So, not a normal gun owner, and he violated a gun free zone….and likely could not possess the gun legally.



Biloxi Waffle House server killed over a cigarette 'was so friendly'

However, Waffle House prohibits firearms in its restaurants unless the customer works in a law enforcement field, or the military, Warner said.
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Mount has no felony record, but he does have misdemeanor violations.

More on the shooter…..

Waffle House Customer Shoots and Kills Waitress Over No-Smoking Policy [Updated]

Friends and former colleagues of Mount tell the Associated Press that he previously worked as a firefighter but left the department in 2002 after being hit by a car. Mount allegedly suffered a traumatic brain injury in the accident.

 

[dannyboys]

This came up as one of the anti gunners pointed to the event posted in November trying to make a dumb point about people carrying guns.

As I reported after it happened, I had called the corporate headquarters to ask if they had a gun free zone policy in their restaurants….and yes, they did….

Now I have it confirmed in a news story and it also came out the shooter had suffered a traumatic brain injury and had a record of misdemeanor crimes…

So, not a normal gun owner, and he violated a gun free zone….and likely could not possess the gun legally.



Biloxi Waffle House server killed over a cigarette 'was so friendly'

However, Waffle House prohibits firearms in its restaurants unless the customer works in a law enforcement field, or the military, Warner said.
------------
Mount has no felony record, but he does have misdemeanor violations.

More on the shooter…..

Waffle House Customer Shoots and Kills Waitress Over No-Smoking Policy [Updated]

Friends and former colleagues of Mount tell the Associated Press that he previously worked as a firefighter but left the department in 2002 after being hit by a car. Mount allegedly suffered a traumatic brain injury in the accident.

Someone should be held accountable for the failure to care for this person adequately!
Just another of these constant "he fell through the cracks" fucking bullshit! Same with wounded VETS!!!!!!!!
If I could I'd turn the entire VA department inside out and start over with an unlimited budget to help anyone in the military and all first responders. That's what a real President would do. Not like the fucking limp wristed poser coward Socialist is doing; Sticking his tongue up our enemies assholes every chance he gets!
This man should have been treated the same as a wounded Vet!
Fucking disgraceful!

 

[dannyboys]

Many years ago I was taking my friend, from our military days, to his physical therapy appointment. He had been shot in VN and had trouble walking. We were waiting for his ride to pick us up.
I was helping him to stand up. Some bastard walked past and called us "baby killers". You know. What John Kerry called us. He saw my friend's veteran ball cap.
I sat my friend down on a bench and I went after the fucking scum. I beat the bastard within an inch of his life. To make sure he never forgot what happened to him I stuck a pen in one of his eyes. That asshole is walking around today with one eye. And my friend Greg committed suicide a few months later overdosing. All the VA did was get him hooked on hard drugs and turned him into a heroin addict.

 

[BULLDOG]

Many years ago I was taking my friend, from our military days, to his physical therapy appointment. He had been shot in VN and had trouble walking. We were waiting for his ride to pick us up.
I was helping him to stand up. Some bastard walked past and called us "baby killers". You know. What John Kerry called us. He saw my friend's veteran ball cap.
I sat my friend down on a bench and I went after the fucking scum. I beat the bastard within an inch of his life. To make sure he never forgot what happened to him I stuck a pen in one of his eyes. That asshole is walking around today with one eye. And my friend Greg committed suicide a few months later overdosing. All the VA did was get him hooked on hard drugs and turned him into a heroin addict.

Stabbed him in the eye with a pen? The NRA is fighting so hard to make sure people like you are fully armed. Well, you and potential terrorists.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

Many years ago I was taking my friend, from our military days, to his physical therapy appointment. He had been shot in VN and had trouble walking. We were waiting for his ride to pick us up.
I was helping him to stand up. Some bastard walked past and called us "baby killers". You know. What John Kerry called us. He saw my friend's veteran ball cap.
I sat my friend down on a bench and I went after the fucking scum. I beat the bastard within an inch of his life. To make sure he never forgot what happened to him I stuck a pen in one of his eyes. That asshole is walking around today with one eye. And my friend Greg committed suicide a few months later overdosing. All the VA did was get him hooked on hard drugs and turned him into a heroin addict.

You should have said to that guy that if you really were a baby killer, then he himself would most definitely not be here anymore either. Your letting him live should have told him everything that he needed to know about the kind of person that you really are.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. My message for that man: Anyone who has it in them to kill a baby would most definitely not hesitate to blow you away as well.

 

[ogibillm]

Many years ago I was taking my friend, from our military days, to his physical therapy appointment. He had been shot in VN and had trouble walking. We were waiting for his ride to pick us up.
I was helping him to stand up. Some bastard walked past and called us "baby killers". You know. What John Kerry called us. He saw my friend's veteran ball cap.
I sat my friend down on a bench and I went after the fucking scum. I beat the bastard within an inch of his life. To make sure he never forgot what happened to him I stuck a pen in one of his eyes. That asshole is walking around today with one eye. And my friend Greg committed suicide a few months later overdosing. All the VA did was get him hooked on hard drugs and turned him into a heroin addict.

You should have said to that guy that if you really were a baby killer, then he himself would most definitely not be here anymore either. Your letting him live should have told him everything that he needed to know about the kind of person that you really are.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. My message for that man: Anyone who has it in them to kill a baby would most definitely not hesitate to blow you away as well.

I mean we all know that the story is a lie, but how do you quote someone talking about a brital assault and say "god bless you" with smiley faces - followed by some asinine message for the victim of the fictional story

Are you not bothered at all that someone would claim to beat someone nearly to death and then intentionally blind them in one eye?

 

[JOSweetHeart]

^^^ I was not cheer leading such a way of responding if that is the impression that you have.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. For the record, no I do not believe that people deserve to be beaten on or worse if saying things is the only thing that they are guilty of.

 

[candycorn]

If you're an indication, the average gun owner is mentally ill...very much so.

Alinsky would be proud

Not sure who that is but anyone who believes there are 30+ violent crimes prevented by guns every hour of every day of every month of every year and has been since 1992 is either a paid plant for the gun industry, an idiot or both.

 

[candycorn]

This came up as one of the anti gunners pointed to the event posted in November trying to make a dumb point about people carrying guns.

As I reported after it happened, I had called the corporate headquarters to ask if they had a gun free zone policy in their restaurants….and yes, they did….

Now I have it confirmed in a news story and it also came out the shooter had suffered a traumatic brain injury and had a record of misdemeanor crimes…

So, not a normal gun owner, and he violated a gun free zone….and likely could not possess the gun legally.



Biloxi Waffle House server killed over a cigarette 'was so friendly'

However, Waffle House prohibits firearms in its restaurants unless the customer works in a law enforcement field, or the military, Warner said.
------------
Mount has no felony record, but he does have misdemeanor violations.

More on the shooter…..

Waffle House Customer Shoots and Kills Waitress Over No-Smoking Policy [Updated]

Friends and former colleagues of Mount tell the Associated Press that he previously worked as a firefighter but left the department in 2002 after being hit by a car. Mount allegedly suffered a traumatic brain injury in the accident.

Someone should be held accountable for the failure to care for this person adequately!
Just another of these constant "he fell through the cracks" fucking bullshit! Same with wounded VETS!!!!!!!!
If I could I'd turn the entire VA department inside out and start over with an unlimited budget to help anyone in the military and all first responders. That's what a real President would do. Not like the fucking limp wristed poser coward Socialist is doing; Sticking his tongue up our enemies assholes every chance he gets!
This man should have been treated the same as a wounded Vet!
Fucking disgraceful!

The OP left out some details (and lied about others) that would hurt his "case". I'll let him produce them

 

[BULLDOG]

^^^ I was not cheer leading such a way of responding if that is the impression that you have.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. For the record, no I do not believe that people deserve to be beaten on or worse if saying things is the only thing that they are guilty of.

Impression hell. It's exactly what you said. Letting him live? This is what is expected of fake right wing Christians now days.

 

[2aguy]

If you're an indication, the average gun owner is mentally ill...very much so.

Alinsky would be proud

Not sure who that is but anyone who believes there are 30+ violent crimes prevented by guns every hour of every day of every month of every year and has been since 1992 is either a paid plant for the gun industry, an idiot or both.

I don't think bill clinton or President obama work for the gun industry...or get paid by them........and yet...their studies and research support the numbers........blame them.....not the gun industry.......

I just averaged the studies......which were conducted by different researchers, from both private and public researchers, over a period of 40 years looking specifically at guns and self defense....the name of the researcher is first, then the year then the number of times they determined guns were used for self defense......notice how many of them there are and how many of them were done by gun grabbers like the clinton Justice Dept. and the obama CDC

And these aren't all of the studies either...there are more...and they support the ones below.....

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....
GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, military)
DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, military)
L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, military)
Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops, military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."
(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..
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If you take the studies from that Kleck cites in his paper, 16 of them....and you only average the ones that exclude military and police shootings..the average becomes 2 million...I use those studies because I have the details on them...and they are still 10 studies (including Kleck's)....

 

[2aguy]

This came up as one of the anti gunners pointed to the event posted in November trying to make a dumb point about people carrying guns.

As I reported after it happened, I had called the corporate headquarters to ask if they had a gun free zone policy in their restaurants….and yes, they did….

Now I have it confirmed in a news story and it also came out the shooter had suffered a traumatic brain injury and had a record of misdemeanor crimes…

So, not a normal gun owner, and he violated a gun free zone….and likely could not possess the gun legally.



Biloxi Waffle House server killed over a cigarette 'was so friendly'

However, Waffle House prohibits firearms in its restaurants unless the customer works in a law enforcement field, or the military, Warner said.
------------
Mount has no felony record, but he does have misdemeanor violations.

More on the shooter…..

Waffle House Customer Shoots and Kills Waitress Over No-Smoking Policy [Updated]

Friends and former colleagues of Mount tell the Associated Press that he previously worked as a firefighter but left the department in 2002 after being hit by a car. Mount allegedly suffered a traumatic brain injury in the accident.

Someone should be held accountable for the failure to care for this person adequately!
Just another of these constant "he fell through the cracks" fucking bullshit! Same with wounded VETS!!!!!!!!
If I could I'd turn the entire VA department inside out and start over with an unlimited budget to help anyone in the military and all first responders. That's what a real President would do. Not like the fucking limp wristed poser coward Socialist is doing; Sticking his tongue up our enemies assholes every chance he gets!
This man should have been treated the same as a wounded Vet!
Fucking disgraceful!

The OP left out some details (and lied about others) that would hurt his "case". I'll let him produce them

Please...enlighten us.........

 

[JOSweetHeart]

^^^ I was not cheer leading such a way of responding if that is the impression that you have.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. For the record, no I do not believe that people deserve to be beaten on or worse if saying things is the only thing that they are guilty of.

Impression hell. It's exactly what you said. Letting him live? This is what is expected of fake right wing Christians now days.

What I said about sparing him does not mean that I think that they deserve to be beaten on. They don't. That is why I said that they should have told the guy that if they really were a baby killer that he would not be here anymore either. I was suggesting that be said to the guy instead of beating him.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[ogibillm]

I'm really curious - what difference did the no gun policy supposedly make in the tragedy?

 

[Care4all]

Many years ago I was taking my friend, from our military days, to his physical therapy appointment. He had been shot in VN and had trouble walking. We were waiting for his ride to pick us up.
I was helping him to stand up. Some bastard walked past and called us "baby killers". You know. What John Kerry called us. He saw my friend's veteran ball cap.
I sat my friend down on a bench and I went after the fucking scum. I beat the bastard within an inch of his life. To make sure he never forgot what happened to him I stuck a pen in one of his eyes. That asshole is walking around today with one eye. And my friend Greg committed suicide a few months later overdosing. All the VA did was get him hooked on hard drugs and turned him into a heroin addict.

Did you do Jail time for YOUR crime?

If not, why not? You committed a felony!!!!

 

[Muhammed]

If you're an indication, the average gun owner is mentally ill...very much so.

Alinsky would be proud

Not sure who that is but anyone who believes there are 30+ violent crimes prevented by guns every hour of every day of every month of every year and has been since 1992 is either a paid plant for the gun industry, an idiot or both.

How many do you think it is?

And why?

 

[ogibillm]

Many years ago I was taking my friend, from our military days, to his physical therapy appointment. He had been shot in VN and had trouble walking. We were waiting for his ride to pick us up.
I was helping him to stand up. Some bastard walked past and called us "baby killers". You know. What John Kerry called us. He saw my friend's veteran ball cap.
I sat my friend down on a bench and I went after the fucking scum. I beat the bastard within an inch of his life. To make sure he never forgot what happened to him I stuck a pen in one of his eyes. That asshole is walking around today with one eye. And my friend Greg committed suicide a few months later overdosing. All the VA did was get him hooked on hard drugs and turned him into a heroin addict.

Did you do Jail time for YOUR crime?

If not, why not? You committed a felony!!!!

Hope not, the scumbag deserved it.

How can you say you hope not and then say he deserved to go to jail?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Update on Waffle house shooting over no smoking request…yep, a gun free zone, and he had a record."

This is truly moronic.

If the shooter had a gun clearly it wasn't a "gun free zone," an employee could likewise carry a concealed gun.

The thread premise consequently fails, as people carry guns whether the property owner prohibits it or not.

 

[Care4all]

Many years ago I was taking my friend, from our military days, to his physical therapy appointment. He had been shot in VN and had trouble walking. We were waiting for his ride to pick us up.
I was helping him to stand up. Some bastard walked past and called us "baby killers". You know. What John Kerry called us. He saw my friend's veteran ball cap.
I sat my friend down on a bench and I went after the fucking scum. I beat the bastard within an inch of his life. To make sure he never forgot what happened to him I stuck a pen in one of his eyes. That asshole is walking around today with one eye. And my friend Greg committed suicide a few months later overdosing. All the VA did was get him hooked on hard drugs and turned him into a heroin addict.

Did you do Jail time for YOUR crime?

If not, why not? You committed a felony!!!!

Hope not, the scumbag deserved it.

Why would someone deserve to get the crap beaten out of them AND a pen stuck in their eye, and lose their eye, simply for not saying the PC thing?

THAT'S DEMENTED and SICK, and MENTALLY DERANGED.

to even think for a nano second otherwise, is nothing less than EVIL, pure unadulterated evil.

 

[2aguy]

I'm really curious - what difference did the no gun policy supposedly make in the tragedy?

The fact that it didn't stop a criminal from bringing a gun into their store…….had he decided to shoot other people they would have been helpless too since law abiding people don't bring guns into legally mandated gun free zones.

The only thing that stopped this from being another mass shooting in a gun free zone is that the shooter didn't choose to shoot more people…the "gun free zone," did nothing to protect anyone from guns.