US Farmers Losing Market Share in China

[Moonglow]

I believe the Korean improving situation is directly tied to Trumps willingness to resort to strong independent trade position.....leverage that is lost in a globalist economy

The problem is that we are in a global economy and nothing Trump does can change that. Right now the grain farmers in Brazil and other places are happier than pigs in shit about what Trump is doing.

Economy being global doesn't mean we cant participate on our own terms. Can they jack up their production to keep the clients they had while serving China? How much new demand is coming on line? Lets look at whole pic before we panic ........Farmers aren't locked into one crop either......

A grain farmer grows grains, they are not equipped to suddenly change to tomatoes or lettuce or peanuts. Plus the climate dictates much of what is grown, there is a reason the mid-west grows most of the grain in the US

Lot of em rotate....into corn.........or other grain

Milo is big

 

[John Shaw]

They got what they voted for.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I believe the Korean improving situation is directly tied to Trumps willingness to resort to strong independent trade position.....leverage that is lost in a globalist economy

The problem is that we are in a global economy and nothing Trump does can change that. Right now the grain farmers in Brazil and other places are happier than pigs in shit about what Trump is doing.

Economy being global doesn't mean we cant participate on our own terms. Can they jack up their production to keep the clients they had while serving China? How much new demand is coming on line? Lets look at whole pic before we panic ........Farmers aren't locked into one crop either......

A grain farmer grows grains, they are not equipped to suddenly change to tomatoes or lettuce or peanuts. Plus the climate dictates much of what is grown, there is a reason the mid-west grows most of the grain in the US

Lot of em rotate....into corn.........or other grain

Milo is big

Most know it as sorghum and it is big, and it is also one of the items that China has added tariffs to.

Exclusive: U.S. sorghum armada U-turns at sea after China tariffs

 

[Bush92]

Agricultural products is one of America's largest exports, and China is one of America's largest export markets. Trump's Trade War and trade taxes are beginning to hurt in states that supported him in the last election.

The U.S.-China trade spat is cutting into the flow of soybeans, pork and other commodities from U.S. farms to one of the world’s biggest markets.

Since early April, when China announced tariffs on some U.S. agricultural goods and threatened to target others, Chinese importers have canceled purchases of corn and cut orders for pork while dramatically reducing new soybean purchases, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data. Chinese importers’ new orders of sorghum, a grain used in animal feed, have dwindled while cancellations increased.

The chill in agricultural trade is sending jitters through the U.S. Farm Belt, which for years has dispatched farmers on trade missions to cultivate the Chinese market.

“As the summer persists and if nothing’s been resolved, it will start showing up as a pretty big hole in U.S. exports, ” said Soren Schroder, chief executive of Bunge Ltd., one of the world’s largest processors and traders of soybeans. ...

“If [the Chinese] market closes, it could be devastating for local communities across the Midwest,” Sen. Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) said in a statement.​

U.S. Farmers Are Already Suffering From Lost Chinese Orders for Corn, Soybeans and Pork

The United States is winning every day because of tariffs. About time we got tough on them. Cut off their whole fucking food supply and let the enemy starve.

 

[Bush92]

The problem is that we are in a global economy and nothing Trump does can change that. Right now the grain farmers in Brazil and other places are happier than pigs in shit about what Trump is doing.

Economy being global doesn't mean we cant participate on our own terms. Can they jack up their production to keep the clients they had while serving China? How much new demand is coming on line? Lets look at whole pic before we panic ........Farmers aren't locked into one crop either......

A grain farmer grows grains, they are not equipped to suddenly change to tomatoes or lettuce or peanuts. Plus the climate dictates much of what is grown, there is a reason the mid-west grows most of the grain in the US

Lot of em rotate....into corn.........or other grain

Milo is big

Most know it as sorghum and it is big, and it is also one of the items that China has added tariffs to.

Exclusive: U.S. sorghum armada U-turns at sea after China tariffs

Good.

 

[Manonthestreet]

I believe the Korean improving situation is directly tied to Trumps willingness to resort to strong independent trade position.....leverage that is lost in a globalist economy

The problem is that we are in a global economy and nothing Trump does can change that. Right now the grain farmers in Brazil and other places are happier than pigs in shit about what Trump is doing.

Economy being global doesn't mean we cant participate on our own terms. Can they jack up their production to keep the clients they had while serving China? How much new demand is coming on line? Lets look at whole pic before we panic ........Farmers aren't locked into one crop either......

A grain farmer grows grains, they are not equipped to suddenly change to tomatoes or lettuce or peanuts. Plus the climate dictates much of what is grown, there is a reason the mid-west grows most of the grain in the US

Lot of em rotate....into corn.........or other grain

All the grains are in the same boat. They grow based upon the perceived demand, there just is not that much demand for amaranth or barley or spelt.

Most rotate fields by year as the beans do not require as much fert and chem as the corn. But if there was a mass switch from one to the other then the bottom of the market would drop off and they would not make back what they spent growing.

Obvious solution is to have your govt masters require we pour more food into our fuel.........predictions are dime a dozen, and full of political motivations.....I'll wait for reality and bet the American farmer is going to be just fine

 

[Bush92]

Not a problem
What the 'Monsanto Law' in South America has Done to Farmers’ Rights

How does that help the small family farm that is one bad season from being bankrupt?


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Since when do Libertarians give a fuck about small family farms? You would like corporate America to own them. That’s the free market system right?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Trump Tariffs Could Put Money in the Pockets of America's Farmers

Democrats lie. It's what they do.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Not a problem
What the 'Monsanto Law' in South America has Done to Farmers’ Rights

How does that help the small family farm that is one bad season from being bankrupt?


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Since when do Libertarians give a fuck about small family farms? You would like corporate America to own them. That’s the free market system right?

We care about all farms, big and small.

 

[Bush92]

Farming is most subsidized market in America. I thought Libertarians were against subsidies?

 

[Bush92]

Not a problem
What the 'Monsanto Law' in South America has Done to Farmers’ Rights

How does that help the small family farm that is one bad season from being bankrupt?


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Since when do Libertarians give a fuck about small family farms? You would like corporate America to own them. That’s the free market system right?

We care about all farms, big and small.

Nope..ya don’t. Not according to your philosophy.

 

[Moonglow]

From what I see the farmers are driving new dualies..

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Trump Tariffs Could Put Money in the Pockets of America's Farmers

Democrats lie. It's what they do.

What a load of crap. Why don't you post something from the Ag industry instead of bullshit blog with no experience on what they speak

 

[Bush92]

From what I see the farmers are driving new dualies..

For IRS purposes...that’s a “work vehicle.”

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Not a problem
What the 'Monsanto Law' in South America has Done to Farmers’ Rights

How does that help the small family farm that is one bad season from being bankrupt?


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Since when do Libertarians give a fuck about small family farms? You would like corporate America to own them. That’s the free market system right?

We care about all farms, big and small.

Nope..ya don’t. Not according to your philosophy.

You are making no sense at all. If a small farm wishes to sell to a larger Corp, that is their right, but nobody wants to force them to. I think you are suffering from oxygen deprivation from having your head too far up Trump's ass

 

[Moonglow]

From what I see the farmers are driving new dualies..

For IRS purposes...that’s a “work vehicle.”

And offroad diesel and gas are a cash rebate for the farmer on a 1040..

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The problem is that we are in a global economy and nothing Trump does can change that. Right now the grain farmers in Brazil and other places are happier than pigs in shit about what Trump is doing.

Economy being global doesn't mean we cant participate on our own terms. Can they jack up their production to keep the clients they had while serving China? How much new demand is coming on line? Lets look at whole pic before we panic ........Farmers aren't locked into one crop either......

A grain farmer grows grains, they are not equipped to suddenly change to tomatoes or lettuce or peanuts. Plus the climate dictates much of what is grown, there is a reason the mid-west grows most of the grain in the US

Lot of em rotate....into corn.........or other grain

All the grains are in the same boat. They grow based upon the perceived demand, there just is not that much demand for amaranth or barley or spelt.

Most rotate fields by year as the beans do not require as much fert and chem as the corn. But if there was a mass switch from one to the other then the bottom of the market would drop off and they would not make back what they spent growing.

Obvious solution is to have your govt masters require we pour more food into our fuel.........predictions are dime a dozen, and full of political motivations.....I'll wait for reality and bet the American farmer is going to be just fine

The obvious solution is to have your Govt masters stay the fuck out of the free market and quit being socialist. But then you would not support them I guess, statist will do what statist do.

 

[Bush92]

Farmers did not like to have grain sales cut to Soviet Union during Cold War when they wanted to blast us from face of earth. Then espoused their patriotism...as none of their kids went into military.

 

[Bush92]

From what I see the farmers are driving new dualies..

For IRS purposes...that’s a “work vehicle.”

And offroad diesel and gas are a cash rebate for the farmer on a 1040..

Yep. They never have a “good crop” either. Too dry, too wet, storm damage. I knew a farmer friend of mine said he got back about $68,000 a year just on Fed money and insurance each year.

 

[Bush92]

Economy being global doesn't mean we cant participate on our own terms. Can they jack up their production to keep the clients they had while serving China? How much new demand is coming on line? Lets look at whole pic before we panic ........Farmers aren't locked into one crop either......

A grain farmer grows grains, they are not equipped to suddenly change to tomatoes or lettuce or peanuts. Plus the climate dictates much of what is grown, there is a reason the mid-west grows most of the grain in the US

Lot of em rotate....into corn.........or other grain

All the grains are in the same boat. They grow based upon the perceived demand, there just is not that much demand for amaranth or barley or spelt.

Most rotate fields by year as the beans do not require as much fert and chem as the corn. But if there was a mass switch from one to the other then the bottom of the market would drop off and they would not make back what they spent growing.

Obvious solution is to have your govt masters require we pour more food into our fuel.........predictions are dime a dozen, and full of political motivations.....I'll wait for reality and bet the American farmer is going to be just fine

The obvious solution is to have your Govt masters stay the fuck out of the free market and quit being socialist. But then you would not support them I guess, statist will do what statist do.

So you support subsidies for farmers? You support China taking our manufacturing jobs, importing those goods to our big box retailers and putting profit into their military to kill Americans someday?