US Farmers Losing Market Share in China

[Harpy Eagle]

From what I see the farmers are driving new dualies..

For IRS purposes...that’s a “work vehicle.”

And offroad diesel and gas are a cash rebate for the farmer on a 1040..

Yep. They never have a “good crop” either. Too dry, too wet, storm damage. I knew a farmer friend of mine said he got back about $68,000 a year just on Fed money and insurance each year.

yeah, that is bull fucking shit unless he had more than a few thousand acres and continually produced less than the country average, which is what crop insurance is based upon.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

A grain farmer grows grains, they are not equipped to suddenly change to tomatoes or lettuce or peanuts. Plus the climate dictates much of what is grown, there is a reason the mid-west grows most of the grain in the US

Lot of em rotate....into corn.........or other grain

All the grains are in the same boat. They grow based upon the perceived demand, there just is not that much demand for amaranth or barley or spelt.

Most rotate fields by year as the beans do not require as much fert and chem as the corn. But if there was a mass switch from one to the other then the bottom of the market would drop off and they would not make back what they spent growing.

Obvious solution is to have your govt masters require we pour more food into our fuel.........predictions are dime a dozen, and full of political motivations.....I'll wait for reality and bet the American farmer is going to be just fine

The obvious solution is to have your Govt masters stay the fuck out of the free market and quit being socialist. But then you would not support them I guess, statist will do what statist do.

So you support subsidies for farmers? You support China taking our manufacturing jobs, importing those goods to our big box retailers and putting profit into their military to kill Americans someday?

China has never taken a single fucking job. If jobs left it is because American companies choose to let them do so...nothing was taken.

I support the free market. If American really cared about those things they would quit buying crap make in China. It is not your job or the POTUS to tell them what to buy.

Damn socialist are taking over.

 

[Bush92]

From what I see the farmers are driving new dualies..

For IRS purposes...that’s a “work vehicle.”

And offroad diesel and gas are a cash rebate for the farmer on a 1040..

Yep. They never have a “good crop” either. Too dry, too wet, storm damage. I knew a farmer friend of mine said he got back about $68,000 a year just on Fed money and insurance each year.

yeah, that is bull fucking shit unless he had more than a few thousand acres and continually produced less than the country average, which is what crop insurance is based upon.

Nope. I’m from farm country and it happens all the time.

 

[Bush92]

Lot of em rotate....into corn.........or other grain

All the grains are in the same boat. They grow based upon the perceived demand, there just is not that much demand for amaranth or barley or spelt.

Most rotate fields by year as the beans do not require as much fert and chem as the corn. But if there was a mass switch from one to the other then the bottom of the market would drop off and they would not make back what they spent growing.

Obvious solution is to have your govt masters require we pour more food into our fuel.........predictions are dime a dozen, and full of political motivations.....I'll wait for reality and bet the American farmer is going to be just fine

The obvious solution is to have your Govt masters stay the fuck out of the free market and quit being socialist. But then you would not support them I guess, statist will do what statist do.

So you support subsidies for farmers? You support China taking our manufacturing jobs, importing those goods to our big box retailers and putting profit into their military to kill Americans someday?

China has never taken a single fucking job. If jobs left it is because American companies choose to let them do so...nothing was taken.

I support the free market. If American really cared about those things they would quit buying crap make in China. It is not your job or the POTUS to tell them what to buy.

Damn socialist are taking over.

So you want Americans to choose from what on the shelf at Wal-Mart? Choices are: “Made in China...Made in China...and Made in China.”

 

[Moonglow]

From what I see the farmers are driving new dualies..

For IRS purposes...that’s a “work vehicle.”

And offroad diesel and gas are a cash rebate for the farmer on a 1040..

Yep. They never have a “good crop” either. Too dry, too wet, storm damage. I knew a farmer friend of mine said he got back about $68,000 a year just on Fed money and insurance each year.

The futures market is a well-funded retirement plan.

 

[Bush92]

Lot of em rotate....into corn.........or other grain

All the grains are in the same boat. They grow based upon the perceived demand, there just is not that much demand for amaranth or barley or spelt.

Most rotate fields by year as the beans do not require as much fert and chem as the corn. But if there was a mass switch from one to the other then the bottom of the market would drop off and they would not make back what they spent growing.

Obvious solution is to have your govt masters require we pour more food into our fuel.........predictions are dime a dozen, and full of political motivations.....I'll wait for reality and bet the American farmer is going to be just fine

The obvious solution is to have your Govt masters stay the fuck out of the free market and quit being socialist. But then you would not support them I guess, statist will do what statist do.

So you support subsidies for farmers? You support China taking our manufacturing jobs, importing those goods to our big box retailers and putting profit into their military to kill Americans someday?

China has never taken a single fucking job. If jobs left it is because American companies choose to let them do so...nothing was taken.

I support the free market. If American really cared about those things they would quit buying crap make in China. It is not your job or the POTUS to tell them what to buy.

Damn socialist are taking over.

Of course they did. Biggest lobby group in Washington D.C. are the Chinese. They paid out enough $$$ to both Democrats and Republicans and protections for American workers were gone.

 

[Moonglow]

The chinese have been buying corporate farms in the US to produce their own food for export.

 

[nat4900]

And the small to intermediate farmers are the ones this will hurt the most. They are the ones that are never more than one bad season from bankruptcy.

Will these farmers be voting this November??

(rhetorical question....lol)

 

[Moonglow]

and US taxpayers pay for their tax breaks...

 

[Bush92]

The chinese have been buying corporate farms in the US to produce their own food for export.

Sure have. Buying up pork production plants left and right.

 

[Bush92]

And the small to intermediate farmers are the ones this will hurt the most. They are the ones that are never more than one bad season from bankruptcy.

Will these farmers be voting this November??

(rhetorical question....lol)

They will vote for Trump because they know that in the end it is in their best interest. They realize urban Democrats don’t give a shit about country folks.

 

[Moonglow]

The chinese have been buying corporate farms in the US to produce their own food for export.

Sure have. Buying up pork production plants left and right.

They figured out how to have their cake and eat it too and out govt. lets them walk away with what should be an industry that is controlled by citizens.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

Those quarterly bonuses that employers are writing to their workers should pay for the offset of increased prices of consumables and rising gas prices.

Filthy Don was sure bonuses were the norm for companies who received their tax cuts and would pass it on to the workers.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

And the small to intermediate farmers are the ones this will hurt the most. They are the ones that are never more than one bad season from bankruptcy.

Will these farmers be voting this November??

(rhetorical question....lol)

They will vote for Trump because they know that in the end it is in their best interest. They realize urban Democrats don’t give a shit about country folks.

And when u say country folk you mean Weak Whyte Supremacist living off other states' taxes.

 

[Bush92]

And the small to intermediate farmers are the ones this will hurt the most. They are the ones that are never more than one bad season from bankruptcy.

Will these farmers be voting this November??

(rhetorical question....lol)

They will vote for Trump because they know that in the end it is in their best interest. They realize urban Democrats don’t give a shit about country folks.

And when u say country folk you mean Weak Whyte Supremacist living off other states' taxes.

I mean hard working people who pay taxes to support urban single parent welfare households.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

From what I see the farmers are driving new dualies..

For IRS purposes...that’s a “work vehicle.”

And offroad diesel and gas are a cash rebate for the farmer on a 1040..

Yep. They never have a “good crop” either. Too dry, too wet, storm damage. I knew a farmer friend of mine said he got back about $68,000 a year just on Fed money and insurance each year.

yeah, that is bull fucking shit unless he had more than a few thousand acres and continually produced less than the country average, which is what crop insurance is based upon.

Nope. I’m from farm country and it happens all the time.

Well, based upon what you post on this forum you are a very gullible person, so I am not surprised you believe this

 

[Manonthestreet]

The chinese have been buying corporate farms in the US to produce their own food for export.

So in fact they are taxing themselves........

 

[Harpy Eagle]

And the small to intermediate farmers are the ones this will hurt the most. They are the ones that are never more than one bad season from bankruptcy.

Will these farmers be voting this November??

(rhetorical question....lol)

They will vote for Trump because they know that in the end it is in their best interest. They realize urban Democrats don’t give a shit about country folks.

And when u say country folk you mean Weak Whyte Supremacist living off other states' taxes.

I mean hard working people who pay taxes to support urban single parent welfare households.

You just said that the farmers were sponging off the Govt. So, which is it?

 

[deanrd]

Agricultural products is one of America's largest exports, and China is one of America's largest export markets. Trump's Trade War and trade taxes are beginning to hurt in states that supported him in the last election.

The U.S.-China trade spat is cutting into the flow of soybeans, pork and other commodities from U.S. farms to one of the world’s biggest markets.

Since early April, when China announced tariffs on some U.S. agricultural goods and threatened to target others, Chinese importers have canceled purchases of corn and cut orders for pork while dramatically reducing new soybean purchases, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data. Chinese importers’ new orders of sorghum, a grain used in animal feed, have dwindled while cancellations increased.

The chill in agricultural trade is sending jitters through the U.S. Farm Belt, which for years has dispatched farmers on trade missions to cultivate the Chinese market.

“As the summer persists and if nothing’s been resolved, it will start showing up as a pretty big hole in U.S. exports, ” said Soren Schroder, chief executive of Bunge Ltd., one of the world’s largest processors and traders of soybeans. ...

“If [the Chinese] market closes, it could be devastating for local communities across the Midwest,” Sen. Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) said in a statement.​

U.S. Farmers Are Already Suffering From Lost Chinese Orders for Corn, Soybeans and Pork

/-----/ So you're picking the winners and losers. What about the $35,000 Chink tariff on Buicks?

If you are going to buy a car that costs $140,000.00 then you can afford a 35 grand tariff, one quarter of the value of the car. If the car costs that much.

 

[deanrd]

And the small to intermediate farmers are the ones this will hurt the most. They are the ones that are never more than one bad season from bankruptcy.

Will these farmers be voting this November??

(rhetorical question....lol)

They will vote for Trump because they know that in the end it is in their best interest. They realize urban Democrats don’t give a shit about country folks.

And when u say country folk you mean Weak Whyte Supremacist living off other states' taxes.

I mean hard working people who pay taxes to support urban single parent welfare households.

You just said that the farmers were sponging off the Govt. So, which is it?

Billionaires and corporations sponge off the government. It's only wrong when poor people do it. Everyone knows that.