US Farmers Losing Market Share in China

[Cellblock2429]

They will vote for Trump because they know that in the end it is in their best interest. They realize urban Democrats don’t give a shit about country folks.

In other words, these farmers would rather get screwed LITERALLY by Trump, instead of IDEOLOGICALLY by "urban democrats."

Who the hell turns this idiot's computer on in the morning?

/——/ Obozo did nothing for 8 years to protect manufacturers or farmers. He let the Chinks walk all over us. Now step aside and let Trump fight for us.

 

[nat4900]

Now step aside and let Trump fight for us.

Brazil and Argentina....BIG growers of soybeans, could NOT agree with you more...........they must now "love" Trump for handing over to China about $20 billion from US farmers to their farmers.........LOL

 

[Indeependent]

Agricultural products is one of America's largest exports, and China is one of America's largest export markets. Trump's Trade War and trade taxes are beginning to hurt in states that supported him in the last election.

The U.S.-China trade spat is cutting into the flow of soybeans, pork and other commodities from U.S. farms to one of the world’s biggest markets.

Since early April, when China announced tariffs on some U.S. agricultural goods and threatened to target others, Chinese importers have canceled purchases of corn and cut orders for pork while dramatically reducing new soybean purchases, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data. Chinese importers’ new orders of sorghum, a grain used in animal feed, have dwindled while cancellations increased.

The chill in agricultural trade is sending jitters through the U.S. Farm Belt, which for years has dispatched farmers on trade missions to cultivate the Chinese market.

“As the summer persists and if nothing’s been resolved, it will start showing up as a pretty big hole in U.S. exports, ” said Soren Schroder, chief executive of Bunge Ltd., one of the world’s largest processors and traders of soybeans. ...

“If [the Chinese] market closes, it could be devastating for local communities across the Midwest,” Sen. Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) said in a statement.​

U.S. Farmers Are Already Suffering From Lost Chinese Orders for Corn, Soybeans and Pork

I figure Trumpis is more concerned with smaller and intermediate producers/farmers than big ag./corporate agriculture and processors/traders.

Big Agriculture and Democrats.. strange bedfellows .. .. not really

Why Corporate Agriculture is a Problem | COC

And the small to intermediate farmers are the ones this will hurt the most. They are the ones that are never more than one bad season from bankruptcy.


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And they will simply go into another profession.
That’s what all the Libertarians said when the H1-Bs came.

 

[Tom Horn]

And they will simply go into another profession.
That’s what all the Libertarians said when the H1-Bs came.

Yep, they can go into computer programming and graphic design...or become "artists"...that's what manufacturing workers and coal miners were told through the 90's and early Y2K. Obammy offered nothing because he didn't have a clue about how an economy works and still doesn't. In his second term displaced factory workers, and farmers who couldn't sell their crops were told to get Pelousy grants to draw pictures of cows..she said we needed to subsidize artists...what a crock. Not a single leftist in this thread knows anything about agriculture, futures markets, or export subsidies/tariffs. Not only are they unAmerican, they are some of the dumbest and most gullible creatures on earth.

 

[jon_berzerk]

--LOL

virtually non of the corn is planted through the midwest because of the late spring ya retard

right now the rush is to try and find short term seed

i understand you want and need for the farmer to fail

so you can blame trump

Actually what the late spring means is that even more acres of Soybeans will be planted, making the trade war even harder on the farmers.

Right now corn is only 10% behind the 5 year average, and there was a 12% jump last week so they are catching up. The 2017 number is an outlier as it was an incredibly early spring and the farmers took advantage of it.

Planting progress right now is mirroring 2015, the last late spring.

I don't want or need the farmer to fail, I work in the Ag industry, my very livelihood is tied to the farmers. That is why Trump's trade war pisses me off so much.

And if you do not think that the farmers are no concerned about it, that is because you have not spoken to any farmers.

Actually what the late spring means is that even more acres of Soybeans will be planted

reposted

you do not know what the fuck you are talking about

beans require more btu days then corn

mods if you need to delete this post again go ahead --LOL

60 to a 100 days to mature

while soy

is 95 to 150 days

 

[jon_berzerk]

Agricultural products is one of America's largest exports, and China is one of America's largest export markets. Trump's Trade War and trade taxes are beginning to hurt in states that supported him in the last election.

The U.S.-China trade spat is cutting into the flow of soybeans, pork and other commodities from U.S. farms to one of the world’s biggest markets.

Since early April, when China announced tariffs on some U.S. agricultural goods and threatened to target others, Chinese importers have canceled purchases of corn and cut orders for pork while dramatically reducing new soybean purchases, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data. Chinese importers’ new orders of sorghum, a grain used in animal feed, have dwindled while cancellations increased.

The chill in agricultural trade is sending jitters through the U.S. Farm Belt, which for years has dispatched farmers on trade missions to cultivate the Chinese market.

“As the summer persists and if nothing’s been resolved, it will start showing up as a pretty big hole in U.S. exports, ” said Soren Schroder, chief executive of Bunge Ltd., one of the world’s largest processors and traders of soybeans. ...

“If [the Chinese] market closes, it could be devastating for local communities across the Midwest,” Sen. Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) said in a statement.​

U.S. Farmers Are Already Suffering From Lost Chinese Orders for Corn, Soybeans and Pork

So you're ok with the over 400 billion dollar trade deficit between the US and China ?

/——/ Libtards screamed bloody murder during the Bush years at our trade deficit with the Chinks. Now they scream bloody murder because a Republican is trying to fix it. Go figure.?

exactly

 

[whitehall]

When did lefties ever worry about "U.S. farmers"? As usual the crazy ignorant angry left underestimates the intelligence and resourcefulness of American farmers and underestimates the booming U.S. economy that will take up the slack in Chinese imports.

 

[jon_berzerk]

When did lefties ever worry about "U.S. farmers"? As usual the crazy ignorant angry left underestimates the intelligence and resourcefulness of American farmers and underestimates the booming U.S. economy that will take up the slack in Chinese imports.

When did lefties ever worry about "U.S. farmers"?

indeed when the chosen one was in office

the leftist planned to go as far as to regulate and tax the dust

combining the fields created

 

[edward37]

When did lefties ever worry about "U.S. farmers"? As usual the crazy ignorant angry left underestimates the intelligence and resourcefulness of American farmers and underestimates the booming U.S. economy that will take up the slack in Chinese imports.

While the world goes elsewhere republicans can't see the pain coming to mostly repub states

 

[nat4900]

When did lefties ever worry about "U.S. farmers"? As usual the crazy ignorant angry left underestimates the intelligence and resourcefulness of American farmers and underestimates the booming U.S. economy that will take up the slack in Chinese imports

WOW....are you ever drunk on that orange kool-aid.......lol

 

[Cellblock2429]

When did lefties ever worry about "U.S. farmers"? As usual the crazy ignorant angry left underestimates the intelligence and resourcefulness of American farmers and underestimates the booming U.S. economy that will take up the slack in Chinese imports.

/———/ And don’t forget Libtards want to do away with the Electoral College that protects the interests of the agricultural states.

 

[Cellblock2429]

And they will simply go into another profession.
That’s what all the Libertarians said when the H1-Bs came.

Yep, they can go into computer programming and graphic design...or become "artists"...that's what manufacturing workers and coal miners were told through the 90's and early Y2K. Obammy offered nothing because he didn't have a clue about how an economy works and still doesn't. In his second term displaced factory workers, and farmers who couldn't sell their crops were told to get Pelousy grants to draw pictures of cows..she said we needed to subsidize artists...what a crock. Not a single leftist in this thread knows anything about agriculture, futures markets, or export subsidies/tariffs. Not only are they unAmerican, they are some of the dumbest and most gullible creatures on earth.

/——/ So true. During Occupy Wall Street one of the protestors was complaning about the farmers subsidies and said “Why do we need farms when we get all the food we need from supermarkets?”

 

[Correll]

Agricultural products is one of America's largest exports, and China is one of America's largest export markets. Trump's Trade War and trade taxes are beginning to hurt in states that supported him in the last election.

The U.S.-China trade spat is cutting into the flow of soybeans, pork and other commodities from U.S. farms to one of the world’s biggest markets.

Since early April, when China announced tariffs on some U.S. agricultural goods and threatened to target others, Chinese importers have canceled purchases of corn and cut orders for pork while dramatically reducing new soybean purchases, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data. Chinese importers’ new orders of sorghum, a grain used in animal feed, have dwindled while cancellations increased.

The chill in agricultural trade is sending jitters through the U.S. Farm Belt, which for years has dispatched farmers on trade missions to cultivate the Chinese market.

“As the summer persists and if nothing’s been resolved, it will start showing up as a pretty big hole in U.S. exports, ” said Soren Schroder, chief executive of Bunge Ltd., one of the world’s largest processors and traders of soybeans. ...

“If [the Chinese] market closes, it could be devastating for local communities across the Midwest,” Sen. Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) said in a statement.​

U.S. Farmers Are Already Suffering From Lost Chinese Orders for Corn, Soybeans and Pork

I'm confused.


I thought you guys said it didn't matter if we lost market share and exports.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

--LOL

virtually non of the corn is planted through the midwest because of the late spring ya retard

right now the rush is to try and find short term seed

i understand you want and need for the farmer to fail

so you can blame trump

Actually what the late spring means is that even more acres of Soybeans will be planted, making the trade war even harder on the farmers.

Right now corn is only 10% behind the 5 year average, and there was a 12% jump last week so they are catching up. The 2017 number is an outlier as it was an incredibly early spring and the farmers took advantage of it.

Planting progress right now is mirroring 2015, the last late spring.

I don't want or need the farmer to fail, I work in the Ag industry, my very livelihood is tied to the farmers. That is why Trump's trade war pisses me off so much.

And if you do not think that the farmers are no concerned about it, that is because you have not spoken to any farmers.

Actually what the late spring means is that even more acres of Soybeans will be planted

reposted

you do not know what the fuck you are talking about

beans require more btu days then corn

mods if you need to delete this post again go ahead --LOL

60 to a 100 days to mature

while soy

is 95 to 150 days

Thank you for reposting that so i can laugh at your ignorance some more. Why do people talk about shit they know nothing about?

Beans always go in the ground later than corn. Hell half the bean fields are double cropped with Winter Wheat, most of which is not even harvested yet. The late spring has delayed the Winter Wheat heading so much that the USDA has not even started to report harvest percent because it is too small.

The 5 year average for corn being 100% planted is roughly around the 1st to 2nd week of June while beans are always 2 to 3 weeks behind that.

At this point right now this year corn is 32% planted compared to 9% for beans. Yet you think beans are planted before corn...

You really do not know what you are talking about.

 

[nat4900]

/———/ And don’t forget Libtards want to do away with the Electoral College that protects the interests of the agricultural states.

Well, maybe the electoral college will buy their surplus soybeans soon to be rotting in some warehouse......What do you think?

 

[idb]

A grain farmer grows grains, they are not equipped to suddenly change to tomatoes or lettuce or peanuts. Plus the climate dictates much of what is grown, there is a reason the mid-west grows most of the grain in the US

Lot of em rotate....into corn.........or other grain

All the grains are in the same boat. They grow based upon the perceived demand, there just is not that much demand for amaranth or barley or spelt.

Most rotate fields by year as the beans do not require as much fert and chem as the corn. But if there was a mass switch from one to the other then the bottom of the market would drop off and they would not make back what they spent growing.

Obvious solution is to have your govt masters require we pour more food into our fuel.........predictions are dime a dozen, and full of political motivations.....I'll wait for reality and bet the American farmer is going to be just fine

The obvious solution is to have your Govt masters stay the fuck out of the free market and quit being socialist. But then you would not support them I guess, statist will do what statist do.

So you support subsidies for farmers? You support China taking our manufacturing jobs, importing those goods to our big box retailers and putting profit into their military to kill Americans someday?

Which one is best...the government stepping into the market and paying subsidies...or the government stepping into the market and skewing it with tariffs?
Either way the government is getting involved in the market.

 

[idb]

All the grains are in the same boat. They grow based upon the perceived demand, there just is not that much demand for amaranth or barley or spelt.

Most rotate fields by year as the beans do not require as much fert and chem as the corn. But if there was a mass switch from one to the other then the bottom of the market would drop off and they would not make back what they spent growing.

Obvious solution is to have your govt masters require we pour more food into our fuel.........predictions are dime a dozen, and full of political motivations.....I'll wait for reality and bet the American farmer is going to be just fine

The obvious solution is to have your Govt masters stay the fuck out of the free market and quit being socialist. But then you would not support them I guess, statist will do what statist do.

So you support subsidies for farmers? You support China taking our manufacturing jobs, importing those goods to our big box retailers and putting profit into their military to kill Americans someday?

China has never taken a single fucking job. If jobs left it is because American companies choose to let them do so...nothing was taken.

I support the free market. If American really cared about those things they would quit buying crap make in China. It is not your job or the POTUS to tell them what to buy.

Damn socialist are taking over.

So you want Americans to choose from what on the shelf at Wal-Mart? Choices are: “Made in China...Made in China...and Made in China.”

Hooray for the Free Market!
Why do you hate it so much?

 

[jon_berzerk]

--LOL

virtually non of the corn is planted through the midwest because of the late spring ya retard

right now the rush is to try and find short term seed

i understand you want and need for the farmer to fail

so you can blame trump

Actually what the late spring means is that even more acres of Soybeans will be planted, making the trade war even harder on the farmers.

Right now corn is only 10% behind the 5 year average, and there was a 12% jump last week so they are catching up. The 2017 number is an outlier as it was an incredibly early spring and the farmers took advantage of it.

Planting progress right now is mirroring 2015, the last late spring.

I don't want or need the farmer to fail, I work in the Ag industry, my very livelihood is tied to the farmers. That is why Trump's trade war pisses me off so much.

And if you do not think that the farmers are no concerned about it, that is because you have not spoken to any farmers.

Actually what the late spring means is that even more acres of Soybeans will be planted

reposted

you do not know what the fuck you are talking about

beans require more btu days then corn

mods if you need to delete this post again go ahead --LOL

60 to a 100 days to mature

while soy

is 95 to 150 days

Thank you for reposting that so i can laugh at your ignorance some more. Why do people talk about shit they know nothing about?

Beans always go in the ground later than corn. Hell half the bean fields are double cropped with Winter Wheat, most of which is not even harvested yet. The late spring has delayed the Winter Wheat heading so much that the USDA has not even started to report harvest percent because it is too small.

The 5 year average for corn being 100% planted is roughly around the 1st to 2nd week of June while beans are always 2 to 3 weeks behind that.

At this point right now this year corn is 32% planted compared to 9% for beans. Yet you think beans are planted before corn...

You really do not know what you are talking about.

dumbass seems your stuck in the past

we plant both as soon as we can get them in the ground

beans take longer then corn to mature so your first statement is bogus ya retard

 

[Harpy Eagle]

--LOL

virtually non of the corn is planted through the midwest because of the late spring ya retard

right now the rush is to try and find short term seed

i understand you want and need for the farmer to fail

so you can blame trump

Actually what the late spring means is that even more acres of Soybeans will be planted, making the trade war even harder on the farmers.

Right now corn is only 10% behind the 5 year average, and there was a 12% jump last week so they are catching up. The 2017 number is an outlier as it was an incredibly early spring and the farmers took advantage of it.

Planting progress right now is mirroring 2015, the last late spring.

I don't want or need the farmer to fail, I work in the Ag industry, my very livelihood is tied to the farmers. That is why Trump's trade war pisses me off so much.

And if you do not think that the farmers are no concerned about it, that is because you have not spoken to any farmers.

Actually what the late spring means is that even more acres of Soybeans will be planted

reposted

you do not know what the fuck you are talking about

beans require more btu days then corn

mods if you need to delete this post again go ahead --LOL

60 to a 100 days to mature

while soy

is 95 to 150 days

Thank you for reposting that so i can laugh at your ignorance some more. Why do people talk about shit they know nothing about?

Beans always go in the ground later than corn. Hell half the bean fields are double cropped with Winter Wheat, most of which is not even harvested yet. The late spring has delayed the Winter Wheat heading so much that the USDA has not even started to report harvest percent because it is too small.

The 5 year average for corn being 100% planted is roughly around the 1st to 2nd week of June while beans are always 2 to 3 weeks behind that.

At this point right now this year corn is 32% planted compared to 9% for beans. Yet you think beans are planted before corn...

You really do not know what you are talking about.

dumbass seems your stuck in the past

we plant both as soon as we can get them in the ground

beans take longer then corn to mature so your first statement is bogus ya retard

I am not stuck in the past you moron, I deal with this data for a living and you are wrong. Tomorrow morning I will be talking to farmers and you will still be in your parents basement

I have shown that you are wrong, beans always go in the ground later than corn. Even the link you gave this morning had way more corn planted that beans.

What the hell is this “we” shit you ain’t no farmer.


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[jon_berzerk]

--LOL

virtually non of the corn is planted through the midwest because of the late spring ya retard

right now the rush is to try and find short term seed

i understand you want and need for the farmer to fail

so you can blame trump

Actually what the late spring means is that even more acres of Soybeans will be planted, making the trade war even harder on the farmers.

Right now corn is only 10% behind the 5 year average, and there was a 12% jump last week so they are catching up. The 2017 number is an outlier as it was an incredibly early spring and the farmers took advantage of it.

Planting progress right now is mirroring 2015, the last late spring.

I don't want or need the farmer to fail, I work in the Ag industry, my very livelihood is tied to the farmers. That is why Trump's trade war pisses me off so much.

And if you do not think that the farmers are no concerned about it, that is because you have not spoken to any farmers.

Actually what the late spring means is that even more acres of Soybeans will be planted

reposted

you do not know what the fuck you are talking about

beans require more btu days then corn

mods if you need to delete this post again go ahead --LOL

60 to a 100 days to mature

while soy

is 95 to 150 days

Thank you for reposting that so i can laugh at your ignorance some more. Why do people talk about shit they know nothing about?

Beans always go in the ground later than corn. Hell half the bean fields are double cropped with Winter Wheat, most of which is not even harvested yet. The late spring has delayed the Winter Wheat heading so much that the USDA has not even started to report harvest percent because it is too small.

The 5 year average for corn being 100% planted is roughly around the 1st to 2nd week of June while beans are always 2 to 3 weeks behind that.

At this point right now this year corn is 32% planted compared to 9% for beans. Yet you think beans are planted before corn...

You really do not know what you are talking about.

dumbass seems your stuck in the past

we plant both as soon as we can get them in the ground

beans take longer then corn to mature so your first statement is bogus ya retard

I am not stuck in the past you moron, I deal with this data for a living and you are wrong. Tomorrow morning I will be talking to farmers and you will still be in your parents basement

I have shown that you are wrong, beans always go in the ground later than corn. Even the link you gave this morning had way more corn planted that beans.

What the hell is this “we” shit you ain’t no farmer.


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I deal with this data for a living

unlikely --LOL -you are nothing more then a troll