Violence is not the way to achieve what you want

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Throughout history, people have resorted to violence when harshly oppressed. It appears that quite a few people in our country feel oppressed these days, but violence is not the answer. Dr King taught us that, and so did the Tea Party. You don't have to destroy something to make a point. This isn't just about Trump, BLM, Inequality, etc. It's about who we are.
 
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Violence many times is the answer. We would not have made the strides we have concerning police reform without violence.
 
This country; the greatest country the world has ever known, would not exist had there been no violence.

Violence should always be an option as a means to an end...
 
Throughout history, people have resorted to violence when harshly oppressed. It appears that quite a few people in our country feel oppressed these days, but violence is not the answer. Dr King taught us that, and so did the Tea Party. You don't have to destroy something to make a point. This isn't just about Trump, BLM, Inequality, etc. It's about who we are.


Dr King's legacy is such that using him as an Authority for anything is highly questionable.
 
Violence many times is the answer. We would not have made the strides we have concerning police reform without violence.
Police reform was needed many years ago. Somehow when Trump is President it comes to the forefront. When it comes to pure survival, many people will never follow a Prog unless there is something in it for them. Now tell me how many criminal codes have had a lot of crimes removed from them or reduced in penalties?
 
Throughout history, people have resorted to violence when harshly oppressed. It appears that quite a few people in our country feel oppressed these days, but violence is not the answer. Dr King taught us that, and so did the Tea Party. You don't have to destroy something to make a point. This isn't just about Trump, BLM, Inequality, etc. It's about who we are.
Wasn’t it the left stating that they had the right to riot and violence due to the history of the Boston Tea Party?
 
It isn't? Well maybe the leaders of the defund the police Democrat party shouldn't be encouraging people to hold govt buildings under siege and create autonomous zones independent of US law in Portland and Seattle for the last seven months. Once again, we have selective outrage at work. The Left gets a pass when they riot, loot, burn businesses and property, attack Govt. and police buildings, and kill innocent civilians. The right are immediately called domestic terrorists when they go directly after the politicians.
 
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Throughout history, people have resorted to violence when harshly oppressed. It appears that quite a few people in our country feel oppressed these days, but violence is not the answer. Dr King taught us that, and so did the Tea Party. You don't have to destroy something to make a point. This isn't just about Trump, BLM, Inequality, etc. It's about who we are.


Dr King's legacy is such that using him as an Authority for anything is highly questionable.
Yeah, you cant use a woman beater as an example of peace. Hell, he may have even been a rapist, by all reports.
 
It has only begun.
You can't have elected officials in the highest offices call half the nation deplorables, idiots, traitors, racist etc. etc.
And then clutch your pearls when they get upset.
Let this be a lesson the rhetoric needs to be toned down - AND WE NEED TO MAKE THE MEDIA START TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR HOW THEY RILE PEOPLE UP.
 
So, are we saying that violence is okay if the cause is just? The next question then is: who gets to decide if the cause is just? People died and much property was destroyed in 2020, who get to decide if that was justified? The people who attacked the Capitol building yesterday may have believed their cause was just too. Beyond the deaths and destruction, what about the harm done to faith, trust, and justice in America?
 
Throughout history, people have resorted to violence when harshly oppressed. It appears that quite a few people in our country feel oppressed these days, but violence is not the answer. Dr King taught us that, and so did the Tea Party. You don't have to destroy something to make a point. This isn't just about Trump, BLM, Inequality, etc. It's about who we are.
The peaceful methods can only be used in a free country. They cannot be used in a communist dictatorship which is what we now are.
 
It isn't? Well maybe the leaders of the defund the police Democrat party shouldn't be encouraging people to hold govt buildings under siege and create autonomous zones independent of US law in Portland and Seattle fr the last seven months. Once again, we have selective outrage at work. The Left gets a pass when they riot, loot, burn businesses and property, attack Govt. and police buildings, and kill innocent civilians. The right are immediately called domestic terrorists when they go directly after the politicians.

IMHO, the people who attacked the Capitol building were domestic terrorists, the same as the rioters in Portland, Seattle, Chicago, New York, and every other place that had numerous riots. The democrats and the media were complicit IMHO for allowing the riot to go on for as long as they with no action demanded to do something about it. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think there is a faction of thugs in this country who like to damage and destroy something and hurt people; most of them aren't doing it for political purposes, they're acting out their own sociopathic impulses. And too often they were allowed to do so.
 
The problem here is the message that has been sent out from places like Portland, Seattle, Oakland, LA, St Louis, etc., that if you believe your cause is righteous, you can get violent in the street and get away with it.
 
Throughout history, people have resorted to violence when harshly oppressed. It appears that quite a few people in our country feel oppressed these days, but violence is not the answer. Dr King taught us that, and so did the Tea Party. You don't have to destroy something to make a point. This isn't just about Trump, BLM, Inequality, etc. It's about who we are.

Spare us, please. Who we were and always should be is the Spirit of '76. The mantra of non-violence was put onto your tongue by the enemies of our civilization, foreign and domestic. Apparently you swallowed it hook, line and sinker.
 
It isn't? Well maybe the leaders of the defund the police Democrat party shouldn't be encouraging people to hold govt buildings under siege and create autonomous zones independent of US law in Portland and Seattle fr the last seven months. Once again, we have selective outrage at work. The Left gets a pass when they riot, loot, burn businesses and property, attack Govt. and police buildings, and kill innocent civilians. The right are immediately called domestic terrorists when they go directly after the politicians.

IMHO, the people who attacked the Capitol building were domestic terrorists, the same as the rioters in Portland, Seattle, Chicago, New York, and every other place that had numerous riots. The democrats and the media were complicit IMHO for allowing the riot to go on for as long as they with no action demanded to do something about it. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think there is a faction of thugs in this country who like to damage and destroy something and hurt people; most of them aren't doing it for political purposes, they're acting out their own sociopathic impulses. And too often they were allowed to do so.
I completely agree, the people that stormed the capital are domestic terrorists, but so are the antifa and BLM thugs and other assorted Leftist nutjobs. But you can't call one side terrorist while encouraging the other to do the same.
 
Throughout history, people have resorted to violence when harshly oppressed. It appears that quite a few people in our country feel oppressed these days, but violence is not the answer. Dr King taught us that, and so did the Tea Party. You don't have to destroy something to make a point. This isn't just about Trump, BLM, Inequality, etc. It's about who we are.
The peaceful methods can only be used in a free country. They cannot be used in a communist dictatorship which is what we now are.
Get the fuck out, then.
 
Police reform was needed many years ago.
No, criminal control was needed many years ago. When the 5-year recidivism rate is north of 50% (and this is just those who get caught), our practice of coddling criminals is shown to be an abysmal failure.

Commit a crime, face stiff jail time, maybe 3x current sentencing norms. Make jail a place that people don't want to go to, not a place with fully equipped gyms and three squares a day. For the murders, employ swift executions.

Criminals being released to inflict pain, suffering, and death on honest citizens should not be tolerated.

Yes, criminal control is sorely needed.
 

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