Walkaway Banned from Facebook As Apple Threatens Parler

[Skylar]

Can we repeal Section 230 before January 20th?

Why would you want to? You'd just shut this board down.

What do you think repealing 230 would actually do.....specifically?

 

[pknopp]

Can we repeal Section 230 before January 20th?

Then where would we post?

 

[iceberg]

The Stalinist far left march continues. As president Trump stated, they weren't after him - they are after you and your freedoms. He is standing in the way.

FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!! Over half a million people in #WalkAway with hundreds of thousands of testimonial videos and stories is GONE. Facebook has banned everything related to #WalkAway.

Conservative #WalkAway Facebook page removed along with hundreds of thousands of videos and followers - Washington Examiner

Conservative activist Brandon Straka announced that Facebook has removed his page with over half a million followers and also banned members of his team.“FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!!” Straka, founder of the #WalkAway movement...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Twitter has also banned president Trump. Meanwhile, apple is trying to shut down the free speech alternative Parler unless they implement draconian anti-speech measures.

Apple Has Threatened To Ban Parler From The App Store

The social networking app favored by conservatives has been given 24 hours to institute a moderation policy.

www.buzzfeednews.com

The founders would have stormed the capitol a long time ago. Trees of liberty need watering.

You speak for the founders? The guys who set up the very system you are trying to destroy?

Hate to break it to you, Coyote, the system has long since been destroyed. Neither party has shown any reverence to the system. By altering and interpreting it, they turned it into something the founders never intended it to be.

One must learn to place blame equally in this context.

See...I disagree...I think the system itself, still works. We pretend to know what the founders intended, but most of the time it’s just our own spin. Culture changes, and nothing can stay static in time foe 250 years. What we are facing is change occurring at exponential rate, with out the necessary cultural tools to deal with it. We were given a Constitution that has endured longer than that of any other nation. There should be a lesson in that. IMO.

Something is broken though...I am just not sure what

some of us don't want to be told how to think.

it ain't rocket science.

Of course. Not sure how that relates though.

because that is what the left is doing now. got rid of the boogie man they created and now it's time to tell you what you can and should think. PARLER - YOU SILENCE USERS OR WE SILENCE YOU.

but hey - private business, right? all that shit. now lets go force a baker to make some cakes.

I am not totally “hard” on my stance here. But you can’t tell private companies they must allow unrestricted free speech or activities on their property.

I am not entirely clear on this either.

For example, it has been found that a number of those involved in assaulting the capital had been planning violence over social media, in particular (I think) Parker, MeWe, and a couple others I can’t recall. There is no question, imo, that is planning a criminal if not terrorist act and these sites are doing nothing about it.

So should Apple and Google be forced to accept them in their “playstores”?

There have been some serious consequences from this as we saw Tuesday.

The reason I brought up ISIS is that is an example of a group that is definitely barred from “free speech”, and there are others as well.

What is the responsibility of a group like Parler in allowing the plotting of an insurrection on it’s platforms and should companies be forced to associated with it if that group refuses to rein it in?

Serious question.

ok - fair enough.

but is that what they are doing? no. they're pissed off because they're not being heard.

only when it was the ones in portland, you said THEY were not being heard so violence was understandable. you saw their cause and if not condoned it, at least understood it. you SAYING "insurrection" is like the left screaming NAZI all the time.

the point is - violence was allowed as a means to an end. condoned even by our own government. there was a time IN MY NOT TOO DISTANT LIFETIME that was a punishable crime and frowned upon by 99% of the population.

when did THAT change and why can't the people being attacked view the RIOTS as 8 months of INSURRECTION???

you have the freedom of speech or you don't.

i seldom defended trump but i always defended his right to speak. so many got pissed and said i was defending him.

tell me again - who has a better grasp on this free speech shit again?

 

[AMart]

Leftists going full blown pro censorship over a gay guy who became conservative. All you need to know. If government said it is legal the beat gays over the head who are conservative to keep the peace, during covid lockdown hours, you would be for it.......for public safety.

 

[Norman]

The Stalinist far left march continues. As president Trump stated, they weren't after him - they are after you and your freedoms. He is standing in the way.

FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!! Over half a million people in #WalkAway with hundreds of thousands of testimonial videos and stories is GONE. Facebook has banned everything related to #WalkAway.

Conservative #WalkAway Facebook page removed along with hundreds of thousands of videos and followers - Washington Examiner

Conservative activist Brandon Straka announced that Facebook has removed his page with over half a million followers and also banned members of his team.“FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!!” Straka, founder of the #WalkAway movement...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Twitter has also banned president Trump. Meanwhile, apple is trying to shut down the free speech alternative Parler unless they implement draconian anti-speech measures.

Apple Has Threatened To Ban Parler From The App Store

The social networking app favored by conservatives has been given 24 hours to institute a moderation policy.

www.buzzfeednews.com

The founders would have stormed the capitol a long time ago. Trees of liberty need watering.

You speak for the founders? The guys who set up the very system you are trying to destroy?

Hate to break it to you, Coyote, the system has long since been destroyed. Neither party has shown any reverence to the system. By altering and interpreting it, they turned it into something the founders never intended it to be.

One must learn to place blame equally in this context.

See...I disagree...I think the system itself, still works. We pretend to know what the founders intended, but most of the time it’s just our own spin. Culture changes, and nothing can stay static in time foe 250 years. What we are facing is change occurring at exponential rate, with out the necessary cultural tools to deal with it. We were given a Constitution that has endured longer than that of any other nation. There should be a lesson in that. IMO.

Something is broken though...I am just not sure what

some of us don't want to be told how to think.

it ain't rocket science.

Of course. Not sure how that relates though.

because that is what the left is doing now. got rid of the boogie man they created and now it's time to tell you what you can and should think. PARLER - YOU SILENCE USERS OR WE SILENCE YOU.

but hey - private business, right? all that shit. now lets go force a baker to make some cakes.

I am not totally “hard” on my stance here. But you can’t tell private companies they must allow unrestricted free speech or activities on their property.

I am not entirely clear on this either.

For example, it has been found that a number of those involved in assaulting the capital had been planning violence over social media, in particular (I think) Parker, MeWe, and a couple others I can’t recall. There is no question, imo, that is planning a criminal if not terrorist act and these sites are doing nothing about it.

So should Apple and Google be forced to accept them in their “playstores”?

There have been some serious consequences from this as we saw Tuesday.

The reason I brought up ISIS is that is an example of a group that is definitely barred from “free speech”, and there are others as well.

What is the responsibility of a group like Parler in allowing the plotting of an insurrection on it’s platforms and should companies be forced to associated with it if that group refuses to rein it in?

Serious question.

They are not banning anyone over BLM riots - in fact they are donating to them. Yes, to the people who advocated for them, which includes majority of democrat party. Dozens and dozens dead as result. They are banning people who have absolutely nothing to do with the justified storming of the capitol.

I see the conversation as completely moot. These people are not honest actors so I don't see why anyone should consider their arguments honestly. They are anti-Americans who want to destroy out freedoms and care only about power.

Once again the OP is about Stalinism, it is not about free speech law. I could care less of a toss if a Stalinist operates by the law or not. If Stalinists get their speech controls in through some loop hole, it is time to close that loop hole not make arguments in justification of it.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Depends on how you define 'free speech'. If you believe free speech is your right to use OTHER people's property for the purposes of YOUR speech.....then your livingroom wall is mine to spread my speech on. You could neither stop me nor ever take it down....else you've violated my 'free speech'.

If however, 'free speech' is speech free of govrnment interference......then I have no right to the use of your livingroom wall as you're not the government. And you have no right to post on Twitter's wall, as they're not the government.

Please by all means, educate us on what EXACTLY social media is and why was it created.

If you have an argument to make, make it. But if you want an education, start at wikipedia. I'm not your mama.

Nor are you a sage with infinite wisdom and undeniable logic. You have a bad habit of trying to turn other's logic against them while ignoring the tu quoque nature of your own.

 

[AMart]

Apple isn't interested in pushing white supremacy.

I demand socialism for these people. At this point lesser punishments won't do.

They've done amazing under Socialism. Do you know what their stock is worth?

Under socialism Android and stock markets would not exist.

Sure they would. They do.

Android isn't publicly traded it is an operating system

I'm not sure where I discussed that.

Yeah because you are gaslighting retard.
Me- Under socialism Android and stock markets would not exist.
You-Sure they would. They do.
Me-Android isn't publicly traded it is an operating system
You- I'm not sure where I discussed that.

You are a retard liar.

 

[amethyst]

parler kicked off Google play store. I guess they are going to force you to stay in Facebook or Twitter and post what is allowed. not me

Parler removed from Google Play store as Apple App Store suspension reportedly looms

 

[AMart]

Can we repeal Section 230 before January 20th?

Why would you want to? You'd just shut this board down.

What do you think repealing 230 would actually do.....specifically?

This forum isn't subject to 230

 

[Coyote]

Orwell was so right. It's amazing how he could anticipate so perfectly, what would happen so many decades later.

No more First Amendment.

America becoming like Bolshevik Russia 1917. Sad.

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Walkaway Banned from Facebook As Apple Threatens Parler

The first amendment only applies to government’s actions, Skye, not private entities.

I don’t know why you disagree Skye. It is what is.

 

[Skylar]

Depends on how you define 'free speech'. If you believe free speech is your right to use OTHER people's property for the purposes of YOUR speech.....then your livingroom wall is mine to spread my speech on. You could neither stop me nor ever take it down....else you've violated my 'free speech'.

If however, 'free speech' is speech free of govrnment interference......then I have no right to the use of your livingroom wall as you're not the government. And you have no right to post on Twitter's wall, as they're not the government.

Please by all means, educate us on what EXACTLY social media is and why was it created.

If you have an argument to make, make it. But if you want an education, start at wikipedia. I'm not your mama.

Nor are you a sage with infinite wisdom and undeniable logic. You have a bad habit of trying to turn other's logic against them while ignoring the tu quoque nature of your own.

Then explain how 'free speech' grants you unlimited and unrestricted access to and use of someone else's private property against their will?

Because if you really believe that, I have a fresh can of spray paint and a lot of strong opinions.

 

[pknopp]

Apple isn't interested in pushing white supremacy.

I demand socialism for these people. At this point lesser punishments won't do.

They've done amazing under Socialism. Do you know what their stock is worth?

Under socialism Android and stock markets would not exist.

Sure they would. They do.

Android isn't publicly traded it is an operating system

I'm not sure where I discussed that.

Yeah because you are gaslighting retard.
Me- Under socialism Android and stock markets would not exist.
You-Sure they would. They do.
Me-Android isn't publicly traded it is an operating system
You- I'm not sure where I discussed that.

You are a retard liar.

I never spoke about them being publicly traded. We are largely a socialist nation with an economy propped up with huge socialist programs and both exist here.

 

[iceberg]

The Stalinist far left march continues. As president Trump stated, they weren't after him - they are after you and your freedoms. He is standing in the way.

FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!! Over half a million people in #WalkAway with hundreds of thousands of testimonial videos and stories is GONE. Facebook has banned everything related to #WalkAway.

Conservative #WalkAway Facebook page removed along with hundreds of thousands of videos and followers - Washington Examiner

Conservative activist Brandon Straka announced that Facebook has removed his page with over half a million followers and also banned members of his team.“FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!!” Straka, founder of the #WalkAway movement...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Twitter has also banned president Trump. Meanwhile, apple is trying to shut down the free speech alternative Parler unless they implement draconian anti-speech measures.

Apple Has Threatened To Ban Parler From The App Store

The social networking app favored by conservatives has been given 24 hours to institute a moderation policy.

www.buzzfeednews.com

The founders would have stormed the capitol a long time ago. Trees of liberty need watering.

You speak for the founders? The guys who set up the very system you are trying to destroy?

Hate to break it to you, Coyote, the system has long since been destroyed. Neither party has shown any reverence to the system. By altering and interpreting it, they turned it into something the founders never intended it to be.

One must learn to place blame equally in this context.

See...I disagree...I think the system itself, still works. We pretend to know what the founders intended, but most of the time it’s just our own spin. Culture changes, and nothing can stay static in time foe 250 years. What we are facing is change occurring at exponential rate, with out the necessary cultural tools to deal with it. We were given a Constitution that has endured longer than that of any other nation. There should be a lesson in that. IMO.

Something is broken though...I am just not sure what

some of us don't want to be told how to think.

it ain't rocket science.

Of course. Not sure how that relates though.

because that is what the left is doing now. got rid of the boogie man they created and now it's time to tell you what you can and should think. PARLER - YOU SILENCE USERS OR WE SILENCE YOU.

but hey - private business, right? all that shit. now lets go force a baker to make some cakes.

I am not totally “hard” on my stance here. But you can’t tell private companies they must allow unrestricted free speech or activities on their property.

I am not entirely clear on this either.

For example, it has been found that a number of those involved in assaulting the capital had been planning violence over social media, in particular (I think) Parker, MeWe, and a couple others I can’t recall. There is no question, imo, that is planning a criminal if not terrorist act and these sites are doing nothing about it.

So should Apple and Google be forced to accept them in their “playstores”?

There have been some serious consequences from this as we saw Tuesday.

The reason I brought up ISIS is that is an example of a group that is definitely barred from “free speech”, and there are others as well.

What is the responsibility of a group like Parler in allowing the plotting of an insurrection on it’s platforms and should companies be forced to associated with it if that group refuses to rein it in?

Serious question.

serious question -
wimkin - a not going anywhere social networking site - was just banned by their host godaddy.

tell me, were mass insurrections being planned by a guy who could barely keep his code up 24 hours at a time and was plauged by a partner who hates him and kept deleting user profiles?

serious question - when do you stop thinking everyone not thinking like you is out to get you? saying PARLER IS GROUND ZERO FOR INSURRECTION - bullshit but ok.

now wimkin?

that excuse just ate a giant turd.

 

[Skylar]

Can we repeal Section 230 before January 20th?

Why would you want to? You'd just shut this board down.

What do you think repealing 230 would actually do.....specifically?

This forum isn't subject to 230

Says who? Here's the definition of an 'interactive computer service'

Interactive computer service The term “interactive computer service” means any information service, system, or access software provider that provides or enables computer access by multiple users to a computer server, including specifically a service or system that provides access to the Internet and such systems operated or services offered by libraries or educational institutions.

This board absolutely qualifies.

 

[pknopp]

Can we repeal Section 230 before January 20th?

Why would you want to? You'd just shut this board down.

What do you think repealing 230 would actually do.....specifically?

This forum isn't subject to 230

It's not on the internet?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The Stalinist far left march continues. As president Trump stated, they weren't after him - they are after you and your freedoms. He is standing in the way.

FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!! Over half a million people in #WalkAway with hundreds of thousands of testimonial videos and stories is GONE. Facebook has banned everything related to #WalkAway.

Conservative #WalkAway Facebook page removed along with hundreds of thousands of videos and followers - Washington Examiner

Conservative activist Brandon Straka announced that Facebook has removed his page with over half a million followers and also banned members of his team.“FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!!” Straka, founder of the #WalkAway movement...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Twitter has also banned president Trump. Meanwhile, apple is trying to shut down the free speech alternative Parler unless they implement draconian anti-speech measures.

Apple Has Threatened To Ban Parler From The App Store

The social networking app favored by conservatives has been given 24 hours to institute a moderation policy.

www.buzzfeednews.com

The founders would have stormed the capitol a long time ago. Trees of liberty need watering.

You speak for the founders? The guys who set up the very system you are trying to destroy?

Hate to break it to you, Coyote, the system has long since been destroyed. Neither party has shown any reverence to the system. By altering and interpreting it, they turned it into something the founders never intended it to be.

One must learn to place blame equally in this context.

See...I disagree...I think the system itself, still works. We pretend to know what the founders intended, but most of the time it’s just our own spin. Culture changes, and nothing can stay static in time foe 250 years. What we are facing is change occurring at exponential rate, with out the necessary cultural tools to deal with it. We were given a Constitution that has endured longer than that of any other nation. There should be a lesson in that. IMO.

Something is broken though...I am just not sure what

some of us don't want to be told how to think.

it ain't rocket science.

Of course. Not sure how that relates though.

because that is what the left is doing now. got rid of the boogie man they created and now it's time to tell you what you can and should think. PARLER - YOU SILENCE USERS OR WE SILENCE YOU.

but hey - private business, right? all that shit. now lets go force a baker to make some cakes.

I am not totally “hard” on my stance here. But you can’t tell private companies they must allow unrestricted free speech or activities on their property.

I am not entirely clear on this either.

For example, it has been found that a number of those involved in assaulting the capital had been planning violence over social media, in particular (I think) Parker, MeWe, and a couple others I can’t recall. There is no question, imo, that is planning a criminal if not terrorist act and these sites are doing nothing about it.

So should Apple and Google be forced to accept them in their “playstores”?

There have been some serious consequences from this as we saw Tuesday.

The reason I brought up ISIS is that is an example of a group that is definitely barred from “free speech”, and there are others as well.

What is the responsibility of a group like Parler in allowing the plotting of an insurrection on it’s platforms and should companies be forced to associated with it if that group refuses to rein it in?

Serious question.

Why is there a need to police those forums for such plots when that is the job of the intelligence community?

That is nothing but a pretext for political silencing.

I have NEVER advocated for the silencing of commies. I am a TRUE liberal.

Can you say the same about any group or type you oppose?

 

[DukeU]

against their will?

Why were these platforms created? Please explain.

 

[Coyote]

The Stalinist far left march continues. As president Trump stated, they weren't after him - they are after you and your freedoms. He is standing in the way.

FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!! Over half a million people in #WalkAway with hundreds of thousands of testimonial videos and stories is GONE. Facebook has banned everything related to #WalkAway.

Conservative #WalkAway Facebook page removed along with hundreds of thousands of videos and followers - Washington Examiner

Conservative activist Brandon Straka announced that Facebook has removed his page with over half a million followers and also banned members of his team.“FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!!” Straka, founder of the #WalkAway movement...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Twitter has also banned president Trump. Meanwhile, apple is trying to shut down the free speech alternative Parler unless they implement draconian anti-speech measures.

Apple Has Threatened To Ban Parler From The App Store

The social networking app favored by conservatives has been given 24 hours to institute a moderation policy.

www.buzzfeednews.com

The founders would have stormed the capitol a long time ago. Trees of liberty need watering.

You speak for the founders? The guys who set up the very system you are trying to destroy?

Hate to break it to you, Coyote, the system has long since been destroyed. Neither party has shown any reverence to the system. By altering and interpreting it, they turned it into something the founders never intended it to be.

One must learn to place blame equally in this context.

See...I disagree...I think the system itself, still works. We pretend to know what the founders intended, but most of the time it’s just our own spin. Culture changes, and nothing can stay static in time foe 250 years. What we are facing is change occurring at exponential rate, with out the necessary cultural tools to deal with it. We were given a Constitution that has endured longer than that of any other nation. There should be a lesson in that. IMO.

Something is broken though...I am just not sure what

some of us don't want to be told how to think.

it ain't rocket science.

Of course. Not sure how that relates though.

because that is what the left is doing now. got rid of the boogie man they created and now it's time to tell you what you can and should think. PARLER - YOU SILENCE USERS OR WE SILENCE YOU.

but hey - private business, right? all that shit. now lets go force a baker to make some cakes.

I am not totally “hard” on my stance here. But you can’t tell private companies they must allow unrestricted free speech or activities on their property.

I am not entirely clear on this either.

For example, it has been found that a number of those involved in assaulting the capital had been planning violence over social media, in particular (I think) Parker, MeWe, and a couple others I can’t recall. There is no question, imo, that is planning a criminal if not terrorist act and these sites are doing nothing about it.

So should Apple and Google be forced to accept them in their “playstores”?

There have been some serious consequences from this as we saw Tuesday.

The reason I brought up ISIS is that is an example of a group that is definitely barred from “free speech”, and there are others as well.

What is the responsibility of a group like Parler in allowing the plotting of an insurrection on it’s platforms and should companies be forced to associated with it if that group refuses to rein it in?

Serious question.

serious question -
wimkin - a not going anywhere social networking site - was just banned by their host godaddy.

tell me, were mass insurrections being planned by a guy who could barely keep his code up 24 hours at a time and was plauged by a partner who hates him and kept deleting user profiles?

serious question - when do you stop thinking everyone not thinking like you is out to get you? saying PARLER IS GROUND ZERO FOR INSURRECTION - bullshit but ok.

now wimkin?

that excuse just ate a giant turd.

WTF does that have to do with anything? I did not say it was ground zero...why the hyperbole?

Did or did not the instigators of this insurrection discuss their plans on sites such as Parler?

 

[Skylar]

against their will?

Why were these platforms created? Please explain.

I'm not your mama, baby bird. Look it up.

 

[Norman]

The Stalinist far left march continues. As president Trump stated, they weren't after him - they are after you and your freedoms. He is standing in the way.

FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!! Over half a million people in #WalkAway with hundreds of thousands of testimonial videos and stories is GONE. Facebook has banned everything related to #WalkAway.

Conservative #WalkAway Facebook page removed along with hundreds of thousands of videos and followers - Washington Examiner

Conservative activist Brandon Straka announced that Facebook has removed his page with over half a million followers and also banned members of his team.“FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!!” Straka, founder of the #WalkAway movement...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Twitter has also banned president Trump. Meanwhile, apple is trying to shut down the free speech alternative Parler unless they implement draconian anti-speech measures.

Apple Has Threatened To Ban Parler From The App Store

The social networking app favored by conservatives has been given 24 hours to institute a moderation policy.

www.buzzfeednews.com

The founders would have stormed the capitol a long time ago. Trees of liberty need watering.

You speak for the founders? The guys who set up the very system you are trying to destroy?

Hate to break it to you, Coyote, the system has long since been destroyed. Neither party has shown any reverence to the system. By altering and interpreting it, they turned it into something the founders never intended it to be.

One must learn to place blame equally in this context.

See...I disagree...I think the system itself, still works. We pretend to know what the founders intended, but most of the time it’s just our own spin. Culture changes, and nothing can stay static in time foe 250 years. What we are facing is change occurring at exponential rate, with out the necessary cultural tools to deal with it. We were given a Constitution that has endured longer than that of any other nation. There should be a lesson in that. IMO.

Something is broken though...I am just not sure what

some of us don't want to be told how to think.

it ain't rocket science.

Of course. Not sure how that relates though.

because that is what the left is doing now. got rid of the boogie man they created and now it's time to tell you what you can and should think. PARLER - YOU SILENCE USERS OR WE SILENCE YOU.

but hey - private business, right? all that shit. now lets go force a baker to make some cakes.

I am not totally “hard” on my stance here. But you can’t tell private companies they must allow unrestricted free speech or activities on their property.

I am not entirely clear on this either.

For example, it has been found that a number of those involved in assaulting the capital had been planning violence over social media, in particular (I think) Parker, MeWe, and a couple others I can’t recall. There is no question, imo, that is planning a criminal if not terrorist act and these sites are doing nothing about it.

So should Apple and Google be forced to accept them in their “playstores”?

There have been some serious consequences from this as we saw Tuesday.

The reason I brought up ISIS is that is an example of a group that is definitely barred from “free speech”, and there are others as well.

What is the responsibility of a group like Parler in allowing the plotting of an insurrection on it’s platforms and should companies be forced to associated with it if that group refuses to rein it in?

Serious question.

Why is there a need to police those forums for such plots when that is the job of the intelligence community?

That is nothing but a pretext for political silencing.

I have NEVER advocated for the silencing of commies. I am a TRUE liberal.

Can you say the same about any group or type you oppose?

I think liberalism says that it is fine to hold people to their own standards, so I recommend abandoning that standard. Stalinists are the enemy anyway. You don't want these people in your life anyway, they spread misery twice as fast as personally as they do politically.