Walkaway Banned from Facebook As Apple Threatens Parler

[pknopp]

Free speech as laid out by the founders bans Politicians from censoring. It doesn't stop others from censoring politicians.

When they are government protect monopolies, which means they are virtually arms of the government, then yes it does stop them from censoring.

Apple isn't a monopoly.

According to government antitrust law, yes it is.

No it isn't.

 

[Moonglow]

Everyone who supports this is a Communist

So communism now include private corporations? The kind that would not exist in communism...Wow, you a Donald Trump kinda genius..

Communists support censorship.

Laughing.......by your conception of 'censorship', I can waltz into your house, spray paint BLACK LIVES MATTER on your livingroom wall. And you can neither stop me nor ever take it down, less you engage in 'censorship'.

Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

That involves breaking and entering and vandalism, moron. It's not an example of freedom of speech.

Freedom of speech only exists in the public space...Twitter, Facebook..and USMB..are not public spaces, and thus..have no free speech. BTW..there is no assurance in dissemination..you are given the right to speak..not the right to ensure that everyone has to hear you.

So you can come into my home and shut down freedom of speech? Can I shut down Twitter, FB, they operate in private buildings not the public square.

A swing and a miss. Your home is not a public setting.

 

[skye]

Orwell was so right. It's amazing how he could anticipate so perfectly, what would happen so many decades later.

No more First Amendment.

America becoming like Bolshevik Russia 1917. Sad.

Walkaway Banned from Facebook As Apple Threatens Parler

 

[Skylar]

Laughing.......by your conception of 'censorship', I can waltz into your house, spray paint BLACK LIVES MATTER on your livingroom wall. And you can neither stop me nor ever take it down, less you engage in 'censorship'.

Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Why would you think my living room wall is a platform for communication or that you could just "waltz" right in? Educated?!?!?

Depends on how you define 'free speech'. If you believe free speech is your right to use OTHER people's property for the purposes of YOUR speech.....then your livingroom wall is mine to spread my speech on. You could neither stop me nor ever take it down....else you've violated my 'free speech'.

If however, 'free speech' is speech free of govrnment interference......then I have no right to the use of your livingroom wall as you're not the government. And you have no right to post on Twitter's wall, as they're not the government.

Pick one.

Here is my definition of free speech.

Don't take arguments presented by morons like Skylar seriously, who do not believe in them themselves... Tto the tune of locking them down and throwing people out.

Your conception of 'free speech' is dependent on me personally?

Wow. I'm kinda flattered.

 

[skye]

The Stalinist far left march continues. As president Trump stated, they weren't after him - they are after you and your freedoms. He is standing in the way.

FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!! Over half a million people in #WalkAway with hundreds of thousands of testimonial videos and stories is GONE. Facebook has banned everything related to #WalkAway.

Conservative #WalkAway Facebook page removed along with hundreds of thousands of videos and followers - Washington Examiner

Conservative activist Brandon Straka announced that Facebook has removed his page with over half a million followers and also banned members of his team.“FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!!” Straka, founder of the #WalkAway movement...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Twitter has also banned president Trump. Meanwhile, apple is trying to shut down the free speech alternative Parler unless they implement draconian anti-speech measures.

Apple Has Threatened To Ban Parler From The App Store

The social networking app favored by conservatives has been given 24 hours to institute a moderation policy.

www.buzzfeednews.com

The founders would have stormed the capitol a long time ago. Trees of liberty need watering.

What freedoms are being taken away?

Freedom of speech, the FIRST amendment. The one that leftists oppose and have always opposed everywhere. Since their solutions have never worked, they can't allow people access to alternatives that do work - better than anything has worked anywhere.

I agree

 

[ColonelAngus]

Twitter still allows ANTIFA to post.



Seems an odd double standard

 

[AMart]

Apple isn't interested in pushing white supremacy.

I demand socialism for these people. At this point lesser punishments won't do.

They've done amazing under Socialism. Do you know what their stock is worth?

Under socialism Android and stock markets would not exist.

Sure they would. They do.

Android isn't publicly traded it is an operating system

Apple isn't interested in pushing white supremacy.

I demand socialism for these people. At this point lesser punishments won't do.

They've done amazing under Socialism. Do you know what their stock is worth?

Under socialism Android and stock markets would not exist.

Sure they would. They do.

No they would not. They could only exist as competition to free markets. If all markets were socialized there in no free market investment.

 

[Norman]

Laughing.......by your conception of 'censorship', I can waltz into your house, spray paint BLACK LIVES MATTER on your livingroom wall. And you can neither stop me nor ever take it down, less you engage in 'censorship'.

Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Why would you think my living room wall is a platform for communication or that you could just "waltz" right in? Educated?!?!?

Depends on how you define 'free speech'. If you believe free speech is your right to use OTHER people's property for the purposes of YOUR speech.....then your livingroom wall is mine to spread my speech on. You could neither stop me nor ever take it down....else you've violated my 'free speech'.

If however, 'free speech' is speech free of govrnment interference......then I have no right to the use of your livingroom wall as you're not the government. And you have no right to post on Twitter's wall, as they're not the government.

Pick one.

Here is my definition of free speech.

Don't take arguments presented by morons like Skylar seriously, who do not believe in them themselves... Tto the tune of locking them down and throwing people out.

Your conception of 'free speech' is dependent on me personally?

Wow. I'm kinda flattered.

No you moron that was sarcasm.

This thread is not about free speech. It is about Stalinism and Stalinists like you who want to end open expression and American ideals. No one is buying your faux argument regarding the private public distinction. Silencing people for their American opinions will not be tolerated in an American forum no matter what the platform.

 

[Moonglow]

The Stalinist far left march continues. As president Trump stated, they weren't after him - they are after you and your freedoms. He is standing in the way.

FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!! Over half a million people in #WalkAway with hundreds of thousands of testimonial videos and stories is GONE. Facebook has banned everything related to #WalkAway.

Conservative #WalkAway Facebook page removed along with hundreds of thousands of videos and followers - Washington Examiner

Conservative activist Brandon Straka announced that Facebook has removed his page with over half a million followers and also banned members of his team.“FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!!” Straka, founder of the #WalkAway movement...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Twitter has also banned president Trump. Meanwhile, apple is trying to shut down the free speech alternative Parler unless they implement draconian anti-speech measures.

Apple Has Threatened To Ban Parler From The App Store

The social networking app favored by conservatives has been given 24 hours to institute a moderation policy.

www.buzzfeednews.com

The founders would have stormed the capitol a long time ago. Trees of liberty need watering.

What freedoms are being taken away?

Freedom of speech, the FIRST amendment. The one that leftists oppose and have always opposed everywhere. Since their solutions have never worked, they can't allow people access to alternatives that do work - better than anything has worked anywhere.

Where does it say in the first amendment that you have freedom of speech through Twitter?

 

[Crepitus]

The Stalinist far left march continues. As president Trump stated, they weren't after him - they are after you and your freedoms. He is standing in the way.

FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!! Over half a million people in #WalkAway with hundreds of thousands of testimonial videos and stories is GONE. Facebook has banned everything related to #WalkAway.

Conservative #WalkAway Facebook page removed along with hundreds of thousands of videos and followers - Washington Examiner

Conservative activist Brandon Straka announced that Facebook has removed his page with over half a million followers and also banned members of his team.“FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!!” Straka, founder of the #WalkAway movement...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Twitter has also banned president Trump. Meanwhile, apple is trying to shut down the free speech alternative Parler unless they implement draconian anti-speech measures.

Apple Has Threatened To Ban Parler From The App Store

The social networking app favored by conservatives has been given 24 hours to institute a moderation policy.

www.buzzfeednews.com

The founders would have stormed the capitol a long time ago. Trees of liberty need watering.

Facebook and apple cleaning up their houses after the mess you guys made a couple of days ago.

This is why you can't have nice things.

 

[DukeU]

Depends on how you define 'free speech'. If you believe free speech is your right to use OTHER people's property for the purposes of YOUR speech.....then your livingroom wall is mine to spread my speech on. You could neither stop me nor ever take it down....else you've violated my 'free speech'.

If however, 'free speech' is speech free of govrnment interference......then I have no right to the use of your livingroom wall as you're not the government. And you have no right to post on Twitter's wall, as they're not the government.

Please by all means, educate us on what EXACTLY social media is and why was it created.

 

[Coyote]

The Stalinist far left march continues. As president Trump stated, they weren't after him - they are after you and your freedoms. He is standing in the way.

FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!! Over half a million people in #WalkAway with hundreds of thousands of testimonial videos and stories is GONE. Facebook has banned everything related to #WalkAway.

Conservative #WalkAway Facebook page removed along with hundreds of thousands of videos and followers - Washington Examiner

Conservative activist Brandon Straka announced that Facebook has removed his page with over half a million followers and also banned members of his team.“FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!!” Straka, founder of the #WalkAway movement...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Twitter has also banned president Trump. Meanwhile, apple is trying to shut down the free speech alternative Parler unless they implement draconian anti-speech measures.

Apple Has Threatened To Ban Parler From The App Store

The social networking app favored by conservatives has been given 24 hours to institute a moderation policy.

www.buzzfeednews.com

The founders would have stormed the capitol a long time ago. Trees of liberty need watering.

You speak for the founders? The guys who set up the very system you are trying to destroy?

Hate to break it to you, Coyote, the system has long since been destroyed. Neither party has shown any reverence to the system. By altering and interpreting it, they turned it into something the founders never intended it to be.

One must learn to place blame equally in this context.

See...I disagree...I think the system itself, still works. We pretend to know what the founders intended, but most of the time it’s just our own spin. Culture changes, and nothing can stay static in time foe 250 years. What we are facing is change occurring at exponential rate, with out the necessary cultural tools to deal with it. We were given a Constitution that has endured longer than that of any other nation. There should be a lesson in that. IMO.

Something is broken though...I am just not sure what

some of us don't want to be told how to think.

it ain't rocket science.

Of course. Not sure how that relates though.

because that is what the left is doing now. got rid of the boogie man they created and now it's time to tell you what you can and should think. PARLER - YOU SILENCE USERS OR WE SILENCE YOU.

but hey - private business, right? all that shit. now lets go force a baker to make some cakes.

I am not totally “hard” on my stance here. But you can’t tell private companies they must allow unrestricted free speech or activities on their property.

I am not entirely clear on this either.

For example, it has been found that a number of those involved in assaulting the capital had been planning violence over social media, in particular (I think) Parker, MeWe, and a couple others I can’t recall. There is no question, imo, that is planning a criminal if not terrorist act and these sites are doing nothing about it.

So should Apple and Google be forced to accept them in their “playstores”?

There have been some serious consequences from this as we saw Tuesday.

The reason I brought up ISIS is that is an example of a group that is definitely barred from “free speech”, and there are others as well.

What is the responsibility of a group like Parler in allowing the plotting of an insurrection on it’s platforms and should companies be forced to associated with it if that group refuses to rein it in?

Serious question.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Laughing.......by your conception of 'censorship', I can waltz into your house, spray paint BLACK LIVES MATTER on your livingroom wall. And you can neither stop me nor ever take it down, less you engage in 'censorship'.

Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Why would you think my living room wall is a platform for communication or that you could just "waltz" right in? Educated?!?!?

Depends on how you define 'free speech'. If you believe free speech is your right to use OTHER people's property for the purposes of YOUR speech.....then your livingroom wall is mine to spread my speech on. You could neither stop me nor ever take it down....else you've violated my 'free speech'.

If however, 'free speech' is speech free of govrnment interference......then I have no right to the use of your livingroom wall as you're not the government. And you have no right to post on Twitter's wall, as they're not the government.

Pick one.

Here is my definition of free speech.

Don't take arguments presented by morons like Skylar seriously, who do not believe in them themselves... Tto the tune of locking them down and throwing people out.

Your conception of 'free speech' is dependent on me personally?

Wow. I'm kinda flattered.

No you moron that was sarcasm.

This thread is not about free speech. It is about Stalinism and Stalinists like you who want to end open expression and American ideals. No one is buying your faux argument regarding the private public distinction. Silencing people for their American opinions will not be tolerated in an American forum no matter what the platform.

Reported.

 

[Skylar]

Depends on how you define 'free speech'. If you believe free speech is your right to use OTHER people's property for the purposes of YOUR speech.....then your livingroom wall is mine to spread my speech on. You could neither stop me nor ever take it down....else you've violated my 'free speech'.

If however, 'free speech' is speech free of govrnment interference......then I have no right to the use of your livingroom wall as you're not the government. And you have no right to post on Twitter's wall, as they're not the government.

Please by all means, educate us on what EXACTLY social media is and why was it created.

If you have an argument to make, make it. But if you want an education, start at wikipedia. I'm not your mama.

 

[bripat9643]

Laughing.......by your conception of 'censorship', I can waltz into your house, spray paint BLACK LIVES MATTER on your livingroom wall. And you can neither stop me nor ever take it down, less you engage in 'censorship'.

Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Why would you think my living room wall is a platform for communication or that you could just "waltz" right in? Educated?!?!?

Depends on how you define 'free speech'. If you believe free speech is your right to use OTHER people's property for the purposes of YOUR speech.....then your livingroom wall is mine to spread my speech on. You could neither stop me nor ever take it down....else you've violated my 'free speech'.

If however, 'free speech' is speech free of govrnment interference......then I have no right to the use of your livingroom wall as you're not the government. And you have no right to post on Twitter's wall, as they're not the government.

Pick one.

Here is my definition of free speech.

Don't take arguments presented by morons like Skylar seriously, who do not believe in them themselves... Tto the tune of locking them down and throwing people out.

Your conception of 'free speech' is dependent on me personally?

Wow. I'm kinda flattered.

No you moron that was sarcasm.

This thread is not about free speech. It is about Stalinism and Stalinists like you who want to end open expression and American ideals. No one is buying your faux argument regarding the private public distinction. Silencing people for their American opinions will not be tolerated in an American forum no matter what the platform.

When have any o this idiots ever had any respect for private property? Now they bleat about it like they are part of the bourgeoisie.

 

[Skylar]

Laughing.......by your conception of 'censorship', I can waltz into your house, spray paint BLACK LIVES MATTER on your livingroom wall. And you can neither stop me nor ever take it down, less you engage in 'censorship'.

Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Why would you think my living room wall is a platform for communication or that you could just "waltz" right in? Educated?!?!?

Depends on how you define 'free speech'. If you believe free speech is your right to use OTHER people's property for the purposes of YOUR speech.....then your livingroom wall is mine to spread my speech on. You could neither stop me nor ever take it down....else you've violated my 'free speech'.

If however, 'free speech' is speech free of govrnment interference......then I have no right to the use of your livingroom wall as you're not the government. And you have no right to post on Twitter's wall, as they're not the government.

Pick one.

Here is my definition of free speech.

Don't take arguments presented by morons like Skylar seriously, who do not believe in them themselves... Tto the tune of locking them down and throwing people out.

Your conception of 'free speech' is dependent on me personally?

Wow. I'm kinda flattered.

No you moron that was sarcasm.

This thread is not about free speech. It is about Stalinism and Stalinists like you who want to end open expression and American ideals. No one is buying your faux argument regarding the private public distinction. Silencing people for their American opinions will not be tolerated in an American forum no matter what the platform.

You're free to express whatever you'd like.

Just not with someone else's property.

 

[conserveguy877]

Can we repeal Section 230 before January 20th?

 

[Skylar]

Laughing.......by your conception of 'censorship', I can waltz into your house, spray paint BLACK LIVES MATTER on your livingroom wall. And you can neither stop me nor ever take it down, less you engage in 'censorship'.

Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Why would you think my living room wall is a platform for communication or that you could just "waltz" right in? Educated?!?!?

Depends on how you define 'free speech'. If you believe free speech is your right to use OTHER people's property for the purposes of YOUR speech.....then your livingroom wall is mine to spread my speech on. You could neither stop me nor ever take it down....else you've violated my 'free speech'.

If however, 'free speech' is speech free of govrnment interference......then I have no right to the use of your livingroom wall as you're not the government. And you have no right to post on Twitter's wall, as they're not the government.

Pick one.

Here is my definition of free speech.

Don't take arguments presented by morons like Skylar seriously, who do not believe in them themselves... Tto the tune of locking them down and throwing people out.

Your conception of 'free speech' is dependent on me personally?

Wow. I'm kinda flattered.

No you moron that was sarcasm.

This thread is not about free speech. It is about Stalinism and Stalinists like you who want to end open expression and American ideals. No one is buying your faux argument regarding the private public distinction. Silencing people for their American opinions will not be tolerated in an American forum no matter what the platform.

When have any o this idiots ever had any respect for private property? Now they bleat about it like they are part of the bourgeoisie.

Then you respect private property now?

Perfect. The Twitter can set its own TOS, as they own their platform.

Problem solved.

 

[pknopp]

Apple isn't interested in pushing white supremacy.

I demand socialism for these people. At this point lesser punishments won't do.

They've done amazing under Socialism. Do you know what their stock is worth?

Under socialism Android and stock markets would not exist.

Sure they would. They do.

Android isn't publicly traded it is an operating system

I'm not sure where I discussed that.

 

[Coyote]

Orwell was so right. It's amazing how he could anticipate so perfectly, what would happen so many decades later.

No more First Amendment.

America becoming like Bolshevik Russia 1917. Sad.

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Walkaway Banned from Facebook As Apple Threatens Parler

The first amendment only applies to government’s actions, Skye, not private entities.