Walkaway Banned from Facebook As Apple Threatens Parler

[bripat9643]

Everyone who supports this is a Communist

So communism now include private corporations? The kind that would not exist in communism...Wow, you a Donald Trump kinda genius..

Communists support censorship.

Laughing.......by your conception of 'censorship', I can waltz into your house, spray paint BLACK LIVES MATTER on your livingroom wall. And you can neither stop me nor ever take it down, less you engage in 'censorship'.

Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

That involves breaking and entering and vandalism, moron. It's not an example of freedom of speech.

Freedom of speech only exists in the public space...Twitter, Facebook..and USMB..are not public spaces,

and thus..have no free speech. BTW..there is no assurance in dissemination..you are given the right to speak..not the right to ensure that everyone has to hear you.

You're an idiot and a hypocrite, of course.[/QUOTE]

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Freedom of speech only exists in the public space...Twitter, Facebook..and USMB..are not public spaces

Well they sure have acted like it.

 

[Skylar]

Everyone who supports this is a Communist

So communism now include private corporations? The kind that would not exist in communism...Wow, you a Donald Trump kinda genius..

Communists support censorship.

Laughing.......by your conception of 'censorship', I can waltz into your house, spray paint BLACK LIVES MATTER on your livingroom wall. And you can neither stop me nor ever take it down, less you engage in 'censorship'.

Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

No, you couldn't. Because law or not, he would have shot you for invading his house. That a flawed analogy, Skylar.

Oh, suddenly private owners control the use of their own property? Okay!

Then why not Twitter setting its own TOS?

You can't have it both ways. It can't be 'free speech' when you want to use someone else's property against their will, but 'invading' when its someone who wants to use your property against your will.

Its either both.....or neither. Pick one.

 

[Coyote]

The Stalinist far left march continues. As president Trump stated, they weren't after him - they are after you and your freedoms. He is standing in the way.

FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!! Over half a million people in #WalkAway with hundreds of thousands of testimonial videos and stories is GONE. Facebook has banned everything related to #WalkAway.

Conservative #WalkAway Facebook page removed along with hundreds of thousands of videos and followers - Washington Examiner

Conservative activist Brandon Straka announced that Facebook has removed his page with over half a million followers and also banned members of his team.“FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!!” Straka, founder of the #WalkAway movement...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Twitter has also banned president Trump. Meanwhile, apple is trying to shut down the free speech alternative Parler unless they implement draconian anti-speech measures.

Apple Has Threatened To Ban Parler From The App Store

The social networking app favored by conservatives has been given 24 hours to institute a moderation policy.

www.buzzfeednews.com

The founders would have stormed the capitol a long time ago. Trees of liberty need watering.

You speak for the founders? The guys who set up the very system you are trying to destroy?

who's destroying shit?

the left said GET YOUR OWN SITE - so the right does. then the left shuts it down as evil.

tell me where did our forefathers ever fight to stop people from being able to speak their mind?

the people protecting YOUR right to speak despite you taking THEIRS away - i believe that's how this system was formed.

unless we've already gotten to the part where that history gets rewritten.

I was speaking to something more general in my response, not to websites (what I was responding to wasn’t either).

As to one of your questions, when did our forefathers fight to stop peop,e from speaking their minds? Think about that one long and hard.

What is the right of free speech on private property? Isn’t that what these entities are? I will grant though...there are anti-trust concerns.

Does the right of free speech allow groups like ISIS to promote their propaganda and share plans on these platforms?

 

[ColonelAngus]

I love this lefty lie that Trump has forced this fascism. Bullshit. You guys just wanted an excuse.

BLM hasnt been censored, yet their supporters have killed many people and many cops.

 

[bripat9643]

Everyone who supports this is a Communist

So communism now include private corporations? The kind that would not exist in communism...Wow, you a Donald Trump kinda genius..

Communists support censorship.

Laughing.......by your conception of 'censorship', I can waltz into your house, spray paint BLACK LIVES MATTER on your livingroom wall. And you can neither stop me nor ever take it down, less you engage in 'censorship'.

Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

That involves breaking and entering and vandalism, moron. It's not an example of freedom of speech.

You can't limit my speech like that in your conception of 'censorship'. You don't get to decide IF I'm allowed in your home or what I'm allowed to say.

And you can't take down what I spray paint on your walls. Remember, per your idea of 'censorship;, you don't get to control the use of your own property per your own argument. You don't get a say.

Only I do.

Unless you want to be a 'communist' who engages in 'censorship', of course.

You really believe that freedom of speech is the same as breaking and entering and vandalism?

That is actually how stupid you are.

You will say virtually anything to preserve your monopoly on what people are allowed to say.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Culture changes, and nothing can stay static in time foe 250 years. What we are facing is change occurring at exponential rate, with out the necessary cultural tools to deal with it. We were given a Constitution that has endured longer than that of any other nation. There should be a lesson in that. IMO.

PRECISELY!

I am quite frankly impressed with this statement.

And as such it is a perfect counter to Skylar 's argument that the founders couldn't foresee cultural and technological change.

We can safely assume that the men, who had the wherewithal to found this nation, also had the wherewithal to take the future into account when they crafted our constitution.

To some degree...but still..you don't know what you don't know--and the founders were in that position. They were smart enough to couch their terms philosophically rather than in hard and fast mandates...as much as they could.

Coyote's post is a great lead-in to the constitution as a living document....it must change, to some degree, with the times.

 

[Coyote]

The Stalinist far left march continues. As president Trump stated, they weren't after him - they are after you and your freedoms. He is standing in the way.

FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!! Over half a million people in #WalkAway with hundreds of thousands of testimonial videos and stories is GONE. Facebook has banned everything related to #WalkAway.

Conservative #WalkAway Facebook page removed along with hundreds of thousands of videos and followers - Washington Examiner

Conservative activist Brandon Straka announced that Facebook has removed his page with over half a million followers and also banned members of his team.“FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!!” Straka, founder of the #WalkAway movement...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Twitter has also banned president Trump. Meanwhile, apple is trying to shut down the free speech alternative Parler unless they implement draconian anti-speech measures.

Apple Has Threatened To Ban Parler From The App Store

The social networking app favored by conservatives has been given 24 hours to institute a moderation policy.

www.buzzfeednews.com

The founders would have stormed the capitol a long time ago. Trees of liberty need watering.

You speak for the founders? The guys who set up the very system you are trying to destroy?

Hate to break it to you, Coyote, the system has long since been destroyed. Neither party has shown any reverence to the system. By altering and interpreting it, they turned it into something the founders never intended it to be.

One must learn to place blame equally in this context.

See...I disagree...I think the system itself, still works. We pretend to know what the founders intended, but most of the time it’s just our own spin. Culture changes, and nothing can stay static in time foe 250 years. What we are facing is change occurring at exponential rate, with out the necessary cultural tools to deal with it. We were given a Constitution that has endured longer than that of any other nation. There should be a lesson in that. IMO.

Something is broken though...I am just not sure what

some of us don't want to be told how to think.

it ain't rocket science.

Of course. Not sure how that relates though.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The Stalinist far left march continues. As president Trump stated, they weren't after him - they are after you and your freedoms. He is standing in the way.

FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!! Over half a million people in #WalkAway with hundreds of thousands of testimonial videos and stories is GONE. Facebook has banned everything related to #WalkAway.

Conservative #WalkAway Facebook page removed along with hundreds of thousands of videos and followers - Washington Examiner

Conservative activist Brandon Straka announced that Facebook has removed his page with over half a million followers and also banned members of his team.“FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!!” Straka, founder of the #WalkAway movement...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Twitter has also banned president Trump. Meanwhile, apple is trying to shut down the free speech alternative Parler unless they implement draconian anti-speech measures.

Apple Has Threatened To Ban Parler From The App Store

The social networking app favored by conservatives has been given 24 hours to institute a moderation policy.

www.buzzfeednews.com

The founders would have stormed the capitol a long time ago. Trees of liberty need watering.

You speak for the founders? The guys who set up the very system you are trying to destroy?

who's destroying shit?

the left said GET YOUR OWN SITE - so the right does. then the left shuts it down as evil.

tell me where did our forefathers ever fight to stop people from being able to speak their mind?

the people protecting YOUR right to speak despite you taking THEIRS away - i believe that's how this system was formed.

unless we've already gotten to the part where that history gets rewritten.

I was speaking to something more general in my response, not to websites (what I was responding to wasn’t either).

As to one of your questions, when did our forefathers fight to stop peop,e from speaking their minds? Think about that one long and hard.

What is the right of free speech on private property? Isn’t that what these entities are? I will grant though...there are anti-trust concerns.

Does the right of free speech allow groups like ISIS to promote their propaganda and share plans on these platforms?

That's the problem.

These entities have been given legal carve outs like public utilities. They are effectively public utilities with their monopolies.

Something's got to change.

 

[DukeU]

Laughing.......by your conception of 'censorship', I can waltz into your house, spray paint BLACK LIVES MATTER on your livingroom wall. And you can neither stop me nor ever take it down, less you engage in 'censorship'.

Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Why would you think my living room wall is a platform for communication or that you could just "waltz" right in? Educated?!?!?

 

[bripat9643]

The Stalinist far left march continues. As president Trump stated, they weren't after him - they are after you and your freedoms. He is standing in the way.

FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!! Over half a million people in #WalkAway with hundreds of thousands of testimonial videos and stories is GONE. Facebook has banned everything related to #WalkAway.

Conservative #WalkAway Facebook page removed along with hundreds of thousands of videos and followers - Washington Examiner

Conservative activist Brandon Straka announced that Facebook has removed his page with over half a million followers and also banned members of his team.“FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!!” Straka, founder of the #WalkAway movement...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Twitter has also banned president Trump. Meanwhile, apple is trying to shut down the free speech alternative Parler unless they implement draconian anti-speech measures.

Apple Has Threatened To Ban Parler From The App Store

The social networking app favored by conservatives has been given 24 hours to institute a moderation policy.

www.buzzfeednews.com

The founders would have stormed the capitol a long time ago. Trees of liberty need watering.

You speak for the founders? The guys who set up the very system you are trying to destroy?

who's destroying shit?

the left said GET YOUR OWN SITE - so the right does. then the left shuts it down as evil.

tell me where did our forefathers ever fight to stop people from being able to speak their mind?

the people protecting YOUR right to speak despite you taking THEIRS away - i believe that's how this system was formed.

unless we've already gotten to the part where that history gets rewritten.

I was speaking to something more general in my response, not to websites (what I was responding to wasn’t either).

As to one of your questions, when did our forefathers fight to stop peop,e from speaking their minds? Think about that one long and hard.

What is the right of free speech on private property? Isn’t that what these entities are? I will grant though...there are anti-trust concerns.

Does the right of free speech allow groups like ISIS to promote their propaganda and share plans on these platforms?

Twitter is a government protected monopoly. Take that away, and your arguments might hold water. Until then they are pure horseshit.

 

[2aguy]

Apple isn't interested in pushing white supremacy.

Then why do they allow the racist democrat party to use their products?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Culture changes, and nothing can stay static in time foe 250 years. What we are facing is change occurring at exponential rate, with out the necessary cultural tools to deal with it. We were given a Constitution that has endured longer than that of any other nation. There should be a lesson in that. IMO.

PRECISELY!

I am quite frankly impressed with this statement.

And as such it is a perfect counter to Skylar 's argument that the founders couldn't foresee cultural and technological change.

We can safely assume that the men, who had the wherewithal to found this nation, also had the wherewithal to take the future into account when they crafted our constitution.

To some degree...but still..you don't know what you don't know--and the founders were in that position. They were smart enough to couch their terms philosophically rather than in hard and fast mandates...as much as they could.

Coyote's post is a great lead-in to the constitution as a living document....it must change, to some degree, with the times.

It must change....BY THE AMENDMENT PROCESS!!!!



What is wrong with doing it the right way?

 

[2aguy]

They are pouring gasoline on the flames.

If all non-violent forms of expression are outlawed, the right will resort to violent forms of expression.

I saw this coming a year ago and now it's happening.

Burning crosses again?

The democrat party stopped burning crosses...now they simply destroy black and hispanic families in the cities they control...

 

[iceberg]

The Stalinist far left march continues. As president Trump stated, they weren't after him - they are after you and your freedoms. He is standing in the way.

FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!! Over half a million people in #WalkAway with hundreds of thousands of testimonial videos and stories is GONE. Facebook has banned everything related to #WalkAway.

Conservative #WalkAway Facebook page removed along with hundreds of thousands of videos and followers - Washington Examiner

Conservative activist Brandon Straka announced that Facebook has removed his page with over half a million followers and also banned members of his team.“FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!!” Straka, founder of the #WalkAway movement...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Twitter has also banned president Trump. Meanwhile, apple is trying to shut down the free speech alternative Parler unless they implement draconian anti-speech measures.

Apple Has Threatened To Ban Parler From The App Store

The social networking app favored by conservatives has been given 24 hours to institute a moderation policy.

www.buzzfeednews.com

The founders would have stormed the capitol a long time ago. Trees of liberty need watering.

You speak for the founders? The guys who set up the very system you are trying to destroy?

who's destroying shit?

the left said GET YOUR OWN SITE - so the right does. then the left shuts it down as evil.

tell me where did our forefathers ever fight to stop people from being able to speak their mind?

the people protecting YOUR right to speak despite you taking THEIRS away - i believe that's how this system was formed.

unless we've already gotten to the part where that history gets rewritten.

I was speaking to something more general in my response, not to websites (what I was responding to wasn’t either).

As to one of your questions, when did our forefathers fight to stop peop,e from speaking their minds? Think about that one long and hard.

What is the right of free speech on private property? Isn’t that what these entities are? I will grant though...there are anti-trust concerns.

Does the right of free speech allow groups like ISIS to promote their propaganda and share plans on these platforms?

i don't have to think about what free speech is. i certainly don't have to be lectured about it in a forum.

i'll put $20 on what the forefathers were thinking about free speech and give you odds i'm much closer to the original intent. and shutting down parler is a HUGE anti-trust violation. but who cares? they got all 3 sides of the power now and shits about to fly. this is just a warm up.

as for your bullshit example - ISIS is all over twitter now aren't they? YOU may wanna rethink that.

but hey - its not trump.

 

[Skylar]

Everyone who supports this is a Communist

So communism now include private corporations? The kind that would not exist in communism...Wow, you a Donald Trump kinda genius..

Communists support censorship.

Laughing.......by your conception of 'censorship', I can waltz into your house, spray paint BLACK LIVES MATTER on your livingroom wall. And you can neither stop me nor ever take it down, less you engage in 'censorship'.

Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

That involves breaking and entering and vandalism, moron. It's not an example of freedom of speech.

You can't limit my speech like that in your conception of 'censorship'. You don't get to decide IF I'm allowed in your home or what I'm allowed to say.

And you can't take down what I spray paint on your walls. Remember, per your idea of 'censorship;, you don't get to control the use of your own property per your own argument. You don't get a say.

Only I do.

Unless you want to be a 'communist' who engages in 'censorship', of course.

You really believe that freedom of speech is the same as breaking and entering and vandalism?

What 'breaking and entering'? What 'vandalism'? Remember, in your conception of 'censorship', you don't get to control the use of your own property. Only I do for the purposes of my speech.

So you don't get a say if I have access to your livingroom wall.....or that's 'censorship'.

Either you get to control access to your own property AND Twitter gets to do the same, or neither of you do.

Pick one.

 

[ColonelAngus]

You lefties are such fools. When those in power dont consider you left enough...you will be targeted. It is inevitable.

 

[pknopp]

Apple isn't interested in pushing white supremacy.

Then why do they allow the racist democrat party to use their products?

Start a thread with some facts and we can discuss it.

 

[bripat9643]

Free speech as laid out by the founders bans Politicians from censoring. It doesn't stop others from censoring politicians.

When they are government protect monopolies, which means they are virtually arms of the government, then yes it does stop them from censoring.

 

[Coyote]

Culture changes, and nothing can stay static in time foe 250 years. What we are facing is change occurring at exponential rate, with out the necessary cultural tools to deal with it. We were given a Constitution that has endured longer than that of any other nation. There should be a lesson in that. IMO.

PRECISELY!

I am quite frankly impressed with this statement.

And as such it is a perfect counter to Skylar 's argument that the founders couldn't foresee cultural and technological change.

We can safely assume that the men, who had the wherewithal to found this nation, also had the wherewithal to take the future into account when they crafted our constitution.

To some degree...but still..you don't know what you don't know--and the founders were in that position. They were smart enough to couch their terms philosophically rather than in hard and fast mandates...as much as they could.

Coyote's post is a great lead-in to the constitution as a living document....it must change, to some degree, with the times.

And that is why, I think, it has endured, it is more a set of ideals and principles than hard and fast regulations.