Walmart arrest; racist or not?

[chanel]

That's racist!

 

[IanC]

The statistics are based on a review of most 2007 birth certificates by the National Center for Health Statistics, part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The numbers also showed:

Nearly 72 percent of the births to black women were out of wedlock. Mothers were unmarried in about 51 percent of Hispanic births and 28 percent of non-Hispanic white births.

I'm not really interested in teen pregnancy rates, Bass. the question was out-of-wedlock births.

and as you are skeptical that bringing bastards into the world is a bad thing....then you are part of the problem. raising children is hard enough with two parents. all too often it is a disaster with only one

 

[IanC]

"But if we are honest with ourselves, we'll admit that what too many fathers also are is missing -- missing from too many lives and too many homes. They have abandoned their responsibilities, acting like boys instead of men. And the foundations of our families are weaker because of it.

"You and I know how true this is in the African-American community. We know that more than half of all black children live in single-parent households, a number that has doubled -- doubled -- since we were children. We know the statistics -- that children who grow up without a father are five times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime; nine times more likely to drop out of schools and 20 times more likely to end up in prison. They are more likely to have behavioral problems, or run away from home or become teenage parents themselves. And the foundations of our community are weaker because of it. ...

Barack Obama on Fatherhood

Crawl out from your rock Mr. Bass.

This was already addressed in another thread stupid, but the Bass will repost the relevant points that Obama failed to take into consideration and inform his speech writers about:


Earl Ofari Hutchinson: Obama's Beat Up on Black Males Fans Old Stereotypes

Presumptive Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama thundered to long, loud and vigorous applause from a Father's Day Chicago church crowd that black fathers don't engage with their children. A month before Obama made this stereotypical and plainly false assertion, Boston University professor Rebekah Levine Coley, in a comprehensive study on the black family, found that black fathers who aren't in the home are much more likely to sustain regular contact with their children than absentee white fathers, or for that matter, fathers of any other ethnic group. The study is not an obscure study buried in the thick pages of a musty academic journal. It was widely cited in a feature article on black fathers in the May 19, 2008 issue of Newsweek. There was no excuse then to spout this myth. The facts are totally contrary to Obama's knock.

Obama is renown for spewing trash to placate people on the right, nothing new.

your link wants to redirect the blame to poverty---

This points to the single greatest reason for the higher number of black children who live in one parent households. That reason is poverty. A 2007 study noted that a black father's ability to financially contribute the majoor support in the home is the major determinant of whether he remains in the home. That's no surprise considering that despite changing gender values and emphasis society still dumps the expectation and burden on men to be the principal breadwinner and financial provider. Put bluntly, men and the notion of manhood are still mainly defined by their ability to bring home the bacon. A man who falls short of that standard is considered a failure and loser.

but the families that have the most success are those that make sure at least one parent has a job, and they get married before having children. especially true for black families

 

[chanel]

Great post Ian. And I agree wholeheartedly that a man who abandons his children is a failure and a loser.

 

[Care4all]

15 years for acting like an asshole at Walmart?

Ridiculous.

I believe that 15 years had to do with the assaulting a police officer bit.

Law enforcement tends to take that kind of thing seriously--even if you don't.

so, do you think putting this woman in jail for 15 years is ok? Did she have a gun? Did she use a baton to beat up the officer? Or a knife? Was she as big as the officer? Did the officer touch her first or push her first and if so, for what legitimate reason?

any questions like such come in to your head or is it simply, police dont take kindly to it and the surrounding circumstances don;t matter?

 

[Bass v 2.0]

The woman never assaulted the police, never, they never documented any such action, stupid police made that up.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

your link wants to redirect the blame to poverty---

Yes poverty does play a role, but the fact remains that black fathers of children of unmarried mothers have more contact with their children, more than white fathers of children of unmarried mothers.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Unwed mothers have nothing to do with the premise of the thread, fact still remains that 15 years was excessive and unwarranted and there was no assault of any of the police officers, the woman didn't even cut the line.

 

[IanC]

your link wants to redirect the blame to poverty---

Yes poverty does play a role, but the fact remains that black fathers of children of unmarried mothers have more contact with their children, more than white fathers of children of unmarried mothers.

got a link for that? even if it is true we are looking at a restriction of range issue because white fathers are much more likely to marry the child's mother

 

[IanC]

Unwed mothers have nothing to do with the premise of the thread, fact still remains that 15 years was excessive and unwarranted and there was no assault of any of the police officers, the woman didn't even cut the line.

how exactly do you figure it is a 'fact' that there was no assault on a police officer? did you come to that conclusion because she was charged with that offense and you figure that everything any cop says is a lie?

 

[Bass v 2.0]

your link wants to redirect the blame to poverty---

Yes poverty does play a role, but the fact remains that black fathers of children of unmarried mothers have more contact with their children, more than white fathers of children of unmarried mothers.

got a link for that? even if it is true we are looking at a restriction of range issue because white fathers are much more likely to marry the child's mother

The link was posted where a study was done by Rebecca Levine Coley, you must be hard of reading.

 

[IanC]

Yes poverty does play a role, but the fact remains that black fathers of children of unmarried mothers have more contact with their children, more than white fathers of children of unmarried mothers.

got a link for that? even if it is true we are looking at a restriction of range issue because white fathers are much more likely to marry the child's mother

The link was posted where a study was done by Rebecca Levine Coley, you must be hard of reading.

give the thread, time and date of the link if you don't want to repost it

 

[Bass v 2.0]

got a link for that? even if it is true we are looking at a restriction of range issue because white fathers are much more likely to marry the child's mother

The link was posted where a study was done by Rebecca Levine Coley, you must be hard of reading.

give the thread, time and date of the link if you don't want to repost it

Look down below and see for yourself, the link and part of q quote from it is there. Better yet, google Rebekah Levine Coley and black fathers.

 

[IanC]

The link was posted where a study was done by Rebecca Levine Coley, you must be hard of reading.

give the thread, time and date of the link if you don't want to repost it

Look down below and see for yourself, the link and part of q quote from it is there. Better yet, google Rebekah Levine Coley and black fathers.

so you are saying that you never did have a link to the information? and now refuse to provide it?

 

[JenyEliza]

give the thread, time and date of the link if you don't want to repost it

Look down below and see for yourself, the link and part of q quote from it is there. Better yet, google Rebekah Levine Coley and black fathers.

so you are saying that you never did have a link to the information? and now refuse to provide it?

He's pointing you to the anti-white racist link in his sig-line.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Look down below and see for yourself, the link and part of q quote from it is there. Better yet, google Rebekah Levine Coley and black fathers.

so you are saying that you never did have a link to the information? and now refuse to provide it?

He's pointing you to the anti-white racist link in his sig-line.

Stop lying you stupid twit.

 

[IanC]

so you are saying that you never did have a link to the information? and now refuse to provide it?

He's pointing you to the anti-white racist link in his sig-line.

Stop lying you stupid twit.

I took a glance at your signature line link and it is a racist anti-white site
I also googled that lady and found some references to her but no actual study and certainly no facts and figures. just another black talking head who only gets attention because she is black, not for her scholarship

 

[JenyEliza]

so you are saying that you never did have a link to the information? and now refuse to provide it?

He's pointing you to the anti-white racist link in his sig-line.

Stop lying you stupid twit.

"Whitewatch" is the opposite equivalent of "Stormfront". Twit.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

He's pointing you to the anti-white racist link in his sig-line.

Stop lying you stupid twit.

I took a glance at your signature line link and it is a racist anti-white site
I also googled that lady and found some references to her but no actual study and certainly no facts and figures. just another black talking head who only gets attention because she is black, not for her scholarship

The woman isn't black you idiot, Coley is white. The link in the Bass' sig isn't racist, the Bass and a friend of his like to catalog crimes by whites for use in debates with white racist s . The site is not the Bass' site.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

A thread the Bass started a long time ago that refutes most of this claims by lametard idiots like IanC and Jeny Eliza.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/race-relations-racism/80850-another-black-myth-exploded-5.html