Washing machines/dryers prices up 17% under Trump (thank you, tariffs)

[Harpy Eagle]

Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

I bet if they went up because of a union strike settlement or huge minimum wage increase, you would be celebrating.

And how many washers or dryers does one buy in a lifetime? I'm pushing 60 and perhaps I owned about four different sets. The set I have now I've owned for 15 years and have no plans on replacing it. Older Maytag's that are working just fine.

Union bashing, not surprised. Let me guess you work non union and have no health and welfare benies.

I work non-union and have great health and welfare benies. Unions once served a vital purpose in this country, but they have now gone the way of the buggy whip, they have outlived their necessity.

 

[Norman]

This is not socialism, but common sense. Unless you want your future to be in China.

The biggest and best countries are by default the winners of trade wars, yet we have kept losing so much.

Trump and you all are wanting us to be emulating China, which has a socialist market economy. The more we copy them, the more we move towards socialism

Our country is in the 2nd longest period of economic expansion in its history. We have, as multiple threads on this forum tell us, record low unemployment and our economy is BOOMING.

Explain how that equals losing? If we are losing so much, how is our economy so amazing?

No, actually we want him to protect our national capital. If you have a problem with that, maybe China is the place for you. That's where all the jobs would be headed under your insane plan.

My insane plan is this weird thing called "freedom" and a free market. Perhaps you've heard of them, they used to be the hallmarks of this great country. But now we have people like you that want the central government to dictate to us what to buy and to punish us if we do not buy the right product made in the right place.

You want to take away freedom of choice and then you tell me to move to China. Fuck, I do not need to move there, people like you are turning our great country into China.

I love how you totally ignored the fact our economy is doing great right, prior to the socialist tariffs being put into place by our dear leader.

I am fine with free markets. But under free markets the government must withdraw its control of the border so free market can take care of it. Build a massive border and make sure that the capital remains in the country.

Since government has taken over that role, it must at least do something and not just watch our futures vanish to China. Your future jobs will be there, as a free market guy, you will love it!

 

[jillian]

Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

He was told this would happen. Moron doesn’t get it.

He figured they’d just pay him off.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I am fine with free markets. But under free markets the government must withdraw its control of the border so free market can take care of it. Build a massive border and make sure that the capital remains in the country.

Since government has taken over that role, it must at least do something and not just watch our futures vanish to China. Your future jobs will be there, as a free market guy, you will love it!

Under a free market capital should not remain anywhere, it should flow between all markets. Capital that remains only in the country becomes stagnant capital. We tried that back in the 1800s, it failed.

You keep whining about jobs going away, yet here we sit at 3.8% unemployment with 100 threads a week on this forum alone that tell us how amazing the economy is. How is that possible with China taking all of our jobs?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

I bet if they went up because of a union strike settlement or huge minimum wage increase, you would be celebrating.

And how many washers or dryers does one buy in a lifetime? I'm pushing 60 and perhaps I owned about four different sets. The set I have now I've owned for 15 years and have no plans on replacing it. Older Maytag's that are working just fine.

Union bashing, not surprised. Let me guess you work non union and have no health and welfare benies.

Trying to change the subject I see. What do you think companies in the past had to do to make those dramatic increases in wages and benefits when unions made the demand? What do you think businesses who are stuck in liberal cities with huge minimum wage increases have to do to pay those new higher wages?

 

[Norman]

I am fine with free markets. But under free markets the government must withdraw its control of the border so free market can take care of it. Build a massive border and make sure that the capital remains in the country.

Since government has taken over that role, it must at least do something and not just watch our futures vanish to China. Your future jobs will be there, as a free market guy, you will love it!

Under a free market capital should not remain anywhere, it should flow between all markets. Capital that remains only in the country becomes stagnant capital. We tried that back in the 1800s, it failed.

You keep whining about jobs going away, yet here we sit at 3.8% unemployment with 100 threads a week on this forum alone that tell us how amazing the economy is. How is that possible with China taking all of our jobs?

That's utter bullshit right there. Under free markets whoever owns the border decides.

Free markets won't last very long if populations who don't give a shit about free markets are allowed to move into the prosperous free market regions and destroy them.

China has taken the manufacturing jobs particularly, which is why we have such an enormous trade deficit.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

By "backfiring", you of course mean "working".

Move to China if you want those slave wage labor products. Sign up for the slave wage labor.

Also this will reduce the deficit by raising tax money. I always thought you loved taxes.

Love this sentiment...buy what the central government tells you to buy, or move to China and by what their central government tells you to buy.

I remember the days when socialism was seen as a bad thing by those on the "right".

When did the government tell you what you can or cannot buy? The only time government did that is after Commie Care was passed, and even then, you still had the option not to buy insurance. Nobody was going to lock you up.

 

[Norman]

Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

By "backfiring", you of course mean "working".

Move to China if you want those slave wage labor products. Sign up for the slave wage labor.

Also this will reduce the deficit by raising tax money. I always thought you loved taxes.

Love this sentiment...buy what the central government tells you to buy, or move to China and by what their central government tells you to buy.

I remember the days when socialism was seen as a bad thing by those on the "right".

When did the government tell you what you can or cannot buy? The only time government did that is after Commie Care was passed, and even then, you still had the option not to buy insurance. Nobody was going to lock you up.

Social security is an example where the government forces you to buy very shitty insurance.

Yet this "free market" guy can't get enough of it I bet.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs. In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

Yes, with protective tariffs, some items will cost more, because they're not being made in dirt-wage factories overseas but by Americans who are earning a decent wage and benefits in American factories. And instead of part of the profits going overseas, all of those profits are staying here in our country. And those American factory workers, instead of working at some service-industry job making $10-$15 an hour, are making $20-$30 an hour and are able to buy more goods and services in their area.

I do wish one of you folks who keep bashing protective tariffs would explain why China has grown by leaps and bounds with a fiercely protectionist tariffs. China's growth rate has dwarfed ours for years, and yet China has some of the highest tariffs in the world. China understands that protecting your own industries and products is sound policy. We used to understand that as well.

Protective tariffs....that is code for "buy what the central government wants you to buy or be punished"

China has a socialist market economy, the central government has vastly more control over the economy than a free market economy like the US. This is why something like protective tariffs work over there, things like freedom of choice and an open market are a foreign concept.

I realize that many of you would like to see our economy become more socialist and the central government control more and more of it, but there are still a few of us that are not willing to trade away our freedoms to cut a trade deficit that is unimportant to start with.

But are we talking protective tariffs or equal tariffs?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

 

[Hellokitty]

I am fine with free markets. But under free markets the government must withdraw its control of the border so free market can take care of it. Build a massive border and make sure that the capital remains in the country.

Since government has taken over that role, it must at least do something and not just watch our futures vanish to China. Your future jobs will be there, as a free market guy, you will love it!

Under a free market capital should not remain anywhere, it should flow between all markets. Capital that remains only in the country becomes stagnant capital. We tried that back in the 1800s, it failed.

You keep whining about jobs going away, yet here we sit at 3.8% unemployment with 100 threads a week on this forum alone that tell us how amazing the economy is. How is that possible with China taking all of our jobs?

The 1st step was eliminating job killing regulations, retaliatory tariffs is the second phase to more winning for the US workers.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

whos ass you blowing smoke up anyhow

even without a sale

still pretty cheap for a washer -n- dryer

i get the feeling you are obvious to the "real world"

Washing Machines - Washers & Dryers - The Home Depot

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

By "backfiring", you of course mean "working".

Move to China if you want those slave wage labor products. Sign up for the slave wage labor.

Also this will reduce the deficit by raising tax money. I always thought you loved taxes.

Love this sentiment...buy what the central government tells you to buy, or move to China and by what their central government tells you to buy.

I remember the days when socialism was seen as a bad thing by those on the "right".

When did the government tell you what you can or cannot buy? The only time government did that is after Commie Care was passed, and even then, you still had the option not to buy insurance. Nobody was going to lock you up.

Social security is an example where the government forces you to buy very shitty insurance.

Yet this "free market" guy can't get enough of it I bet.

You're not really buying anything with SS, but you are forced into a system you may not want to be part of, so your point is valid. However I think keeping US prices more competitive with foreign products brings jobs back to the US (after all, many leave so they can manufacture at a lower cost) and make US products more attractive to consumers.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

This is not socialism, but common sense. Unless you want your future to be in China.

The biggest and best countries are by default the winners of trade wars, yet we have kept losing so much.

Trump and you all are wanting us to be emulating China, which has a socialist market economy. The more we copy them, the more we move towards socialism

Our country is in the 2nd longest period of economic expansion in its history. We have, as multiple threads on this forum tell us, record low unemployment and our economy is BOOMING.

Explain how that equals losing? If we are losing so much, how is our economy so amazing?

No, actually we want him to protect our national capital. If you have a problem with that, maybe China is the place for you. That's where all the jobs would be headed under your insane plan.

My insane plan is this weird thing called "freedom" and a free market. Perhaps you've heard of them, they used to be the hallmarks of this great country. But now we have people like you that want the central government to dictate to us what to buy and to punish us if we do not buy the right product made in the right place.

You want to take away freedom of choice and then you tell me to move to China. Fuck, I do not need to move there, people like you are turning our great country into China.

I love how you totally ignored the fact our economy is doing great right, prior to the socialist tariffs being put into place by our dear leader.

Socialist tariffs. Lol.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

By "backfiring", you of course mean "working".

Move to China if you want those slave wage labor products. Sign up for the slave wage labor.

Also this will reduce the deficit by raising tax money. I always thought you loved taxes.

Love this sentiment...buy what the central government tells you to buy, or move to China and by what their central government tells you to buy.

I remember the days when socialism was seen as a bad thing by those on the "right".

When did the government tell you what you can or cannot buy? The only time government did that is after Commie Care was passed, and even then, you still had the option not to buy insurance. Nobody was going to lock you up.

Tariffs are the government's way of controlling what you buy, buy what they want or pay the extra price. Tariffs are the government's way of picking winners and losers in the economy, instead of letting the free market system do that.

Tariffs are about one thing, control. And the more control the central government has, the less freedom you and I have.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

I bet if they went up because of a union strike settlement or huge minimum wage increase, you would be celebrating.

And how many washers or dryers does one buy in a lifetime? I'm pushing 60 and perhaps I owned about four different sets. The set I have now I've owned for 15 years and have no plans on replacing it. Older Maytag's that are working just fine.

Union bashing, not surprised. Let me guess you work non union and have no health and welfare benies.

I don't work under a union. I negotiate my salary and never depend on someone else to get me a dime raise per hour once every five years.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I am fine with free markets. But under free markets the government must withdraw its control of the border so free market can take care of it. Build a massive border and make sure that the capital remains in the country.

Since government has taken over that role, it must at least do something and not just watch our futures vanish to China. Your future jobs will be there, as a free market guy, you will love it!

Under a free market capital should not remain anywhere, it should flow between all markets. Capital that remains only in the country becomes stagnant capital. We tried that back in the 1800s, it failed.

You keep whining about jobs going away, yet here we sit at 3.8% unemployment with 100 threads a week on this forum alone that tell us how amazing the economy is. How is that possible with China taking all of our jobs?

That's utter bullshit right there. Under free markets whoever owns the border decides.

Free markets won't last very long if populations who don't give a shit about free markets are allowed to move into the prosperous free market regions and destroy them.

China has taken the manufacturing jobs particularly, which is why we have such an enormous trade deficit.

We have a trade deficit because we the people have chosen to buy things made in other countries. It is the same reason you have a trade deficit with your grocery store.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

This is not socialism, but common sense. Unless you want your future to be in China.

The biggest and best countries are by default the winners of trade wars, yet we have kept losing so much.

Trump and you all are wanting us to be emulating China, which has a socialist market economy. The more we copy them, the more we move towards socialism

Our country is in the 2nd longest period of economic expansion in its history. We have, as multiple threads on this forum tell us, record low unemployment and our economy is BOOMING.

Explain how that equals losing? If we are losing so much, how is our economy so amazing?

No, actually we want him to protect our national capital. If you have a problem with that, maybe China is the place for you. That's where all the jobs would be headed under your insane plan.

My insane plan is this weird thing called "freedom" and a free market. Perhaps you've heard of them, they used to be the hallmarks of this great country. But now we have people like you that want the central government to dictate to us what to buy and to punish us if we do not buy the right product made in the right place.

You want to take away freedom of choice and then you tell me to move to China. Fuck, I do not need to move there, people like you are turning our great country into China.

I love how you totally ignored the fact our economy is doing great right, prior to the socialist tariffs being put into place by our dear leader.

Socialist tariffs. Lol.

Yes, that is what they are. Tariffs are the central government taking control of part of the economy, which is the very heart of socialism

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs. In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

Yes, with protective tariffs, some items will cost more, because they're not being made in dirt-wage factories overseas but by Americans who are earning a decent wage and benefits in American factories. And instead of part of the profits going overseas, all of those profits are staying here in our country. And those American factory workers, instead of working at some service-industry job making $10-$15 an hour, are making $20-$30 an hour and are able to buy more goods and services in their area.

I do wish one of you folks who keep bashing protective tariffs would explain why China has grown by leaps and bounds with a fiercely protectionist tariffs. China's growth rate has dwarfed ours for years, and yet China has some of the highest tariffs in the world. China understands that protecting your own industries and products is sound policy. We used to understand that as well.

Protective tariffs....that is code for "buy what the central government wants you to buy or be punished"

China has a socialist market economy, the central government has vastly more control over the economy than a free market economy like the US. This is why something like protective tariffs work over there, things like freedom of choice and an open market are a foreign concept.

I realize that many of you would like to see our economy become more socialist and the central government control more and more of it, but there are still a few of us that are not willing to trade away our freedoms to cut a trade deficit that is unimportant to start with.

But are we talking protective tariffs or equal tariffs?

A tariff is a tariff, no matter what name you give it.

People whine about Canada putting tariffs on our dairy products but totally ignore than in the US 70% of the revenue the dairy industry receives is via the government itself.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I am fine with free markets. But under free markets the government must withdraw its control of the border so free market can take care of it. Build a massive border and make sure that the capital remains in the country.

Since government has taken over that role, it must at least do something and not just watch our futures vanish to China. Your future jobs will be there, as a free market guy, you will love it!

Under a free market capital should not remain anywhere, it should flow between all markets. Capital that remains only in the country becomes stagnant capital. We tried that back in the 1800s, it failed.

You keep whining about jobs going away, yet here we sit at 3.8% unemployment with 100 threads a week on this forum alone that tell us how amazing the economy is. How is that possible with China taking all of our jobs?

The 1st step was eliminating job killing regulations, retaliatory tariffs is the second phase to more winning for the US workers.

Nobody wins when the central government take control of parts of the economy, and that is what tariffs are.