Watch: Tucker Carlson has had enough of David Hogg rips him to shreds in epic new rant

[Auld Phart]

Wait a minute, criminals broke the gun laws?
I'll bet no one saw that possibility, eh?

You mean like they break rape and murder laws?

Does that mean we shouldnt have laws against rape or murder?

I suppose we shouldn't expect criminals to obey gun laws any better than they obey other laws.

Does that mean we shouldn’t have laws?

Does that mean we shouldn’t have laws?

If your neighbor gets a ticket for drunk driving, should you be punished for owning a car?

Why am I stopped at a DWI checkpoint if I didn’t do anything?

probably because of the way you drive.

now give a real answer to the question.

 

[rightwinger]

You mean like they break rape and murder laws?

Does that mean we shouldnt have laws against rape or murder?

I suppose we shouldn't expect criminals to obey gun laws any better than they obey other laws.

Does that mean we shouldn’t have laws?

Does that mean we shouldn’t have laws?

If your neighbor gets a ticket for drunk driving, should you be punished for owning a car?

Why am I stopped at a DWI checkpoint if I didn’t do anything?

probably because of the way you drive.

now give a real answer to the question.

You got your answer

We all make concessions because of drunk drivers

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

You would think Republicans attacking children was a step too far.

Guess, for once, about Republicans, I was wrong.

If he's not too young to say "fuck" every other word in an interview without parental repercussions then he's not too young to be attacked for his views.

Personally, I don't care one way or the other about Hogg or what he's trying to do. But what concerns me is what Tucker brought up in the video and that is that Hogg argues from a false paradigm that if you don't advocate for more gun control then you're a monster who wants to see more kids killed. This crap is patently false and was most likely spoon fed to him by other liberals via the media and whatnot. It's intellectually dishonest and lazy and renders one incapable of having a reasoned debate on the issue.

Hogg is highlighting the priorities of the right

It is not protecting children

And this is where kids like Hogg get these ridiculous ideas. It's bullshit. It's another false dichotomy and non sequitur. It does not necessarily follow that because you support 2nd Amendment rights that your priority is not protecting the children. 2nd Amendment supporters simply don't think that banning assault weapons or guns in general will fix the problem. And demonizing 2nd Amendment supporters will most certainly not fix the problem.

Hogg and his fellow students understand the situation better than conservatives give them credit for

They saw what happened after Sandy Hook. Politicians gave platitudes and laid low till it passé day away

These students are holding their hands to the fire. Elections are seven months away.....can they keep up the pressure?

They may or may not understand the situation better than conservatives give them credit for but Hogg and others like him are still wrong to think that these people don't care about the children just because they're 2nd Amendment supporters.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

There's no policy that "allows" children to be killed. In fact, there's no policy that allows anyone to be killed. Cruz didn't kill those kids because policy "allowed" him to do it, he killed them because he wanted to and he wasn't going to let any law or policy stop him no matter what.

The NRA and their republican flunkies made sure he had access to the weapons of his choice

How dare you deny a crazy person his second amendment remedies?

And the deputies on scene made sure he had access to his victims of choice.

The NRA doesn't dictate gun policy in this country, contrary to what most liberals may believe.

The NRA has conservatives by the balls

Young people like David Hogg want to hold them accountable

Maybe, maybe not. But they still don't dictate gun policy. If the NRA has some conservatives by the balls it's because they allowed it to happen.

money.....

Yes, of course it's about money. But the NRA still does not dictate gun policy.

And don't kid yourself into thinking that Democrat politicians are not taking money from lobby groups.

 

[jillian]

The NRA and their republican flunkies made sure he had access to the weapons of his choice

How dare you deny a crazy person his second amendment remedies?

And the deputies on scene made sure he had access to his victims of choice.

The NRA doesn't dictate gun policy in this country, contrary to what most liberals may believe.

The NRA has conservatives by the balls

Young people like David Hogg want to hold them accountable

Maybe, maybe not. But they still don't dictate gun policy. If the NRA has some conservatives by the balls it's because they allowed it to happen.

money.....

Yes, of course it's about money. But the NRA still does not dictate gun policy.

And don't kid yourself into thinking that Democrat politicians are not taking money from lobby groups.

actually, right now it has been dictating gun policy, including the writing of statutes. that's what lobbyists do. and GOP pols are subject to their influence because you don't find one-issue NRA voters anywhere but the reddest states.

right now about 2% of Americans have 50% of the country's guns. those 2% are the one-issue voters. you see them spamming this board with NRA propaganda. the rest of the country wants enough regulation to prevent people who shouldn't have guns from getting them. that doesn't require bans. it doesn't require any infringement on the 2nd. it only requires a willingness to target the dangerously ill, felons and domestic abusers to make huge inroads.

the next posts you see will include some type of BS that those changes "won't end gun violence". that's probably true. but we basically have a mass shooting a day in this country. that's obscene and we don't look at any other problem and say "oh well, it won't solve the problem 100% so we won't do anything"

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

And the deputies on scene made sure he had access to his victims of choice.

The NRA doesn't dictate gun policy in this country, contrary to what most liberals may believe.

The NRA has conservatives by the balls

Young people like David Hogg want to hold them accountable

Maybe, maybe not. But they still don't dictate gun policy. If the NRA has some conservatives by the balls it's because they allowed it to happen.

money.....

Yes, of course it's about money. But the NRA still does not dictate gun policy.

And don't kid yourself into thinking that Democrat politicians are not taking money from lobby groups.

actually, right now it has been dictating gun policy, including the writing of statutes. that's what lobbyists do. and GOP pols are subject to their influence because you don't find one-issue NRA voters anywhere but the reddest states.

I'm not familiar with this issue. Can you give me an example of an NRA lobbyist dictating gun policy?

right now about 2% of Americans have 50% of the country's guns. those 2% are the one-issue voters. you see them spamming this board with NRA propaganda. the rest of the country wants enough regulation to prevent people who shouldn't have guns from getting them. that doesn't require bans. it doesn't require any infringement on the 2nd. it only requires a willingness to target the dangerously ill, felons and domestic abusers to make huge inroads.

the next posts you see will include some type of BS that those changes "won't end gun violence". that's probably true. but we basically have a mass shooting a day in this country. that's obscene and we don't look at any other problem and say "oh well, it won't solve the problem 100% so we won't do anything"

Pro 2nd Amendment people are not suggesting we do nothing in lieu of banning firearms. They and the NRA have proposed alternative measures to approach the problem but, just as you say 2nd Amendment supporters do, pro gun control advocates say it won't solve the problem. So around and around we go.

 

[jillian]

The NRA has conservatives by the balls

Young people like David Hogg want to hold them accountable

Maybe, maybe not. But they still don't dictate gun policy. If the NRA has some conservatives by the balls it's because they allowed it to happen.

money.....

Yes, of course it's about money. But the NRA still does not dictate gun policy.

And don't kid yourself into thinking that Democrat politicians are not taking money from lobby groups.

actually, right now it has been dictating gun policy, including the writing of statutes. that's what lobbyists do. and GOP pols are subject to their influence because you don't find one-issue NRA voters anywhere but the reddest states.

I'm not familiar with this issue. Can you give me an example of an NRA lobbyist dictating gun policy?

right now about 2% of Americans have 50% of the country's guns. those 2% are the one-issue voters. you see them spamming this board with NRA propaganda. the rest of the country wants enough regulation to prevent people who shouldn't have guns from getting them. that doesn't require bans. it doesn't require any infringement on the 2nd. it only requires a willingness to target the dangerously ill, felons and domestic abusers to make huge inroads.

the next posts you see will include some type of BS that those changes "won't end gun violence". that's probably true. but we basically have a mass shooting a day in this country. that's obscene and we don't look at any other problem and say "oh well, it won't solve the problem 100% so we won't do anything"

Pro 2nd Amendment people are not suggesting we do nothing in lieu of banning firearms. They and the NRA have proposed alternative measures to approach the problem but, just as you say 2nd Amendment supporters do, pro gun control advocates say it won't solve the problem. So around and around we go.

The NRA and their republican flunkies made sure he had access to the weapons of his choice

How dare you deny a crazy person his second amendment remedies?

And the deputies on scene made sure he had access to his victims of choice.

The NRA doesn't dictate gun policy in this country, contrary to what most liberals may believe.

The NRA has conservatives by the balls

Young people like David Hogg want to hold them accountable

Maybe, maybe not. But they still don't dictate gun policy. If the NRA has some conservatives by the balls it's because they allowed it to happen.

money.....

Yes, of course it's about money. But the NRA still does not dictate gun policy.

And don't kid yourself into thinking that Democrat politicians are not taking money from lobby groups.

who said democrats don't take money from lobbying groups? just wondering.

but democrats don't take money from the gun manufacturers' lobby. do they? are people dying because of any lobbies democrats fund? Me? I don't think there should be any money in politics except for a set amount allocated by the government for people running for office. poof. no more lobbies with money.

on background checks (which is really the bulk of what people are talking about)

NRA Chief's Bogus Background Check Claims - FactCheck.org

Analysis | Fact-checking Trump, NRA claims on gun background checks

NRA funding

How The Gun Industry Funnels Tens Of Millions Of Dollars To The NRA


oh... and this is why NRA money matters in an election (part of which I've already elaborated upon)

The real reason the NRA’s money matters in elections

and hiding behind being "Pro 2nd amendment" is nonsense. you aren't "pro 2nd amendment". you're pro unlimited access to unlimited weapons by people who shouldn't be allowed to have those weapons.

and that has NEVER been what the 2nd amendment stands for. not ever... until NRA propaganda .... on behalf of gun manufacturers.

oh... there's a shooting at a school? 17 people were murdered? no problem. ... buy more guns, right?

 

[ChrisL]

Maybe, maybe not. But they still don't dictate gun policy. If the NRA has some conservatives by the balls it's because they allowed it to happen.

money.....

Yes, of course it's about money. But the NRA still does not dictate gun policy.

And don't kid yourself into thinking that Democrat politicians are not taking money from lobby groups.

actually, right now it has been dictating gun policy, including the writing of statutes. that's what lobbyists do. and GOP pols are subject to their influence because you don't find one-issue NRA voters anywhere but the reddest states.

I'm not familiar with this issue. Can you give me an example of an NRA lobbyist dictating gun policy?

right now about 2% of Americans have 50% of the country's guns. those 2% are the one-issue voters. you see them spamming this board with NRA propaganda. the rest of the country wants enough regulation to prevent people who shouldn't have guns from getting them. that doesn't require bans. it doesn't require any infringement on the 2nd. it only requires a willingness to target the dangerously ill, felons and domestic abusers to make huge inroads.

the next posts you see will include some type of BS that those changes "won't end gun violence". that's probably true. but we basically have a mass shooting a day in this country. that's obscene and we don't look at any other problem and say "oh well, it won't solve the problem 100% so we won't do anything"

Pro 2nd Amendment people are not suggesting we do nothing in lieu of banning firearms. They and the NRA have proposed alternative measures to approach the problem but, just as you say 2nd Amendment supporters do, pro gun control advocates say it won't solve the problem. So around and around we go.

And the deputies on scene made sure he had access to his victims of choice.

The NRA doesn't dictate gun policy in this country, contrary to what most liberals may believe.

The NRA has conservatives by the balls

Young people like David Hogg want to hold them accountable

Maybe, maybe not. But they still don't dictate gun policy. If the NRA has some conservatives by the balls it's because they allowed it to happen.

money.....

Yes, of course it's about money. But the NRA still does not dictate gun policy.

And don't kid yourself into thinking that Democrat politicians are not taking money from lobby groups.

who said democrats don't take money from lobbying groups? just wondering.

but democrats don't take money from the gun manufacturers' lobby. do they? are people dying because of any lobbies democrats fund? Me? I don't think there should be any money in politics except for a set amount allocated by the government for people running for office. poof. no more lobbies with money.

on background checks (which is really the bulk of what people are talking about)

NRA Chief's Bogus Background Check Claims - FactCheck.org

Analysis | Fact-checking Trump, NRA claims on gun background checks

NRA funding

How The Gun Industry Funnels Tens Of Millions Of Dollars To The NRA


oh... and this is why NRA money matters in an election (part of which I've already elaborated upon)

The real reason the NRA’s money matters in elections

and hiding behind being "Pro 2nd amendment" is nonsense. you aren't "pro 2nd amendment". you're pro unlimited access to unlimited weapons by people who shouldn't be allowed to have those weapons.

and that has NEVER been what the 2nd amendment stands for. not ever... until NRA propaganda .... on behalf of gun manufacturers.

oh... there's a shooting at a school? 17 people were murdered? no problem. ... buy more guns, right?

It is a constitutional RIGHT of every US citizen to be able to keep and bear arms, regardless of whether you think they are "crazy" or not. Unless a person has committed a crime and lost his rights, then he has every right that you or anyone else has.

 

[ChrisL]

Maybe, maybe not. But they still don't dictate gun policy. If the NRA has some conservatives by the balls it's because they allowed it to happen.

money.....

Yes, of course it's about money. But the NRA still does not dictate gun policy.

And don't kid yourself into thinking that Democrat politicians are not taking money from lobby groups.

actually, right now it has been dictating gun policy, including the writing of statutes. that's what lobbyists do. and GOP pols are subject to their influence because you don't find one-issue NRA voters anywhere but the reddest states.

I'm not familiar with this issue. Can you give me an example of an NRA lobbyist dictating gun policy?

right now about 2% of Americans have 50% of the country's guns. those 2% are the one-issue voters. you see them spamming this board with NRA propaganda. the rest of the country wants enough regulation to prevent people who shouldn't have guns from getting them. that doesn't require bans. it doesn't require any infringement on the 2nd. it only requires a willingness to target the dangerously ill, felons and domestic abusers to make huge inroads.

the next posts you see will include some type of BS that those changes "won't end gun violence". that's probably true. but we basically have a mass shooting a day in this country. that's obscene and we don't look at any other problem and say "oh well, it won't solve the problem 100% so we won't do anything"

Pro 2nd Amendment people are not suggesting we do nothing in lieu of banning firearms. They and the NRA have proposed alternative measures to approach the problem but, just as you say 2nd Amendment supporters do, pro gun control advocates say it won't solve the problem. So around and around we go.

And the deputies on scene made sure he had access to his victims of choice.

The NRA doesn't dictate gun policy in this country, contrary to what most liberals may believe.

The NRA has conservatives by the balls

Young people like David Hogg want to hold them accountable

Maybe, maybe not. But they still don't dictate gun policy. If the NRA has some conservatives by the balls it's because they allowed it to happen.

money.....

Yes, of course it's about money. But the NRA still does not dictate gun policy.

And don't kid yourself into thinking that Democrat politicians are not taking money from lobby groups.

who said democrats don't take money from lobbying groups? just wondering.

but democrats don't take money from the gun manufacturers' lobby. do they? are people dying because of any lobbies democrats fund? Me? I don't think there should be any money in politics except for a set amount allocated by the government for people running for office. poof. no more lobbies with money.

on background checks (which is really the bulk of what people are talking about)

NRA Chief's Bogus Background Check Claims - FactCheck.org

Analysis | Fact-checking Trump, NRA claims on gun background checks

NRA funding

How The Gun Industry Funnels Tens Of Millions Of Dollars To The NRA


oh... and this is why NRA money matters in an election (part of which I've already elaborated upon)

The real reason the NRA’s money matters in elections

and hiding behind being "Pro 2nd amendment" is nonsense. you aren't "pro 2nd amendment". you're pro unlimited access to unlimited weapons by people who shouldn't be allowed to have those weapons.

and that has NEVER been what the 2nd amendment stands for. not ever... until NRA propaganda .... on behalf of gun manufacturers.

oh... there's a shooting at a school? 17 people were murdered? no problem. ... buy more guns, right?

CRAZY people who want to kill a bunch of people are not going to be deterred by a law. If the laws against murder do not deter them, then what makes you think a gun control law would? Do you really think guns are going to disappear if you "ban" them? Good Lord. Lol.

 

[ChrisL]

Thanks be to the NRA for protecting us and our rights against government intrusion.

 

[jknowgood]

Lol, what part of the fact don't you understand? If the laws on the books were used, he wouldn't of gotten the gun. But an Obama school policy stopped the shooters record being reported to police. So why do you support liberal policy, that lets a criminal pass a back ground check? And get a gun that he used to kill children.

Ole rightie thinks policies that allow our children to be killed is funny. Is it because it's liberal policy that allows it? You afraid to go against your party? Thanks for proving you cannot think on your own.

There's no policy that "allows" children to be killed. In fact, there's no policy that allows anyone to be killed. Cruz didn't kill those kids because policy "allowed" him to do it, he killed them because he wanted to and he wasn't going to let any law or policy stop him no matter what.

The NRA and their republican flunkies made sure he had access to the weapons of his choice

How dare you deny a crazy person his second amendment remedies?

And the deputies on scene made sure he had access to his victims of choice.

The NRA doesn't dictate gun policy in this country, contrary to what most liberals may believe.

The NRA has conservatives by the balls

Young people like David Hogg want to hold them accountable

He needs to hold liberal policy accountable, since that's the cause of the shooting.

 

[ChrisL]

Since we already know that murder laws (which carry the highest penalties) do not deter these crazies, then we can also assume that they will not follow a silly gun control law. Therefore, I have to conclude that the anti rights people just want to leave people at the mercy of criminals and the racist murdering cops. Because that is the only thing they will be accomplishing, disarming people and preventing them from defending themselves against the criminals and murderers in society. Creating a great and safe working atmosphere for the criminal and murderer. Nice.

 

[Geaux4it]

 

[ChrisL]

I am grateful to the NRA for protecting my rights against the lunatic leftists. In fact, I will be donating more money this month, as will MILLIONS of Americans.

 

[jknowgood]

Ole rightie thinks policies that allow our children to be killed is funny. Is it because it's liberal policy that allows it? You afraid to go against your party? Thanks for proving you cannot think on your own.

There's no policy that "allows" children to be killed. In fact, there's no policy that allows anyone to be killed. Cruz didn't kill those kids because policy "allowed" him to do it, he killed them because he wanted to and he wasn't going to let any law or policy stop him no matter what.

The NRA and their republican flunkies made sure he had access to the weapons of his choice

How dare you deny a crazy person his second amendment remedies?

And the deputies on scene made sure he had access to his victims of choice.

The NRA doesn't dictate gun policy in this country, contrary to what most liberals may believe.

The NRA has conservatives by the balls

Young people like David Hogg want to hold them accountable

and look how disgusting the NRA shills have been to young people who have been shot at because of their insane gun policies.

The nra had nothing to do with this shooting. Liberal policy did, it's disgusting how you blame others for your faults.

 

[Geaux4it]

Tucker hit it spot on.

-Geaux

 

[ChrisL]

Maybe, maybe not. But they still don't dictate gun policy. If the NRA has some conservatives by the balls it's because they allowed it to happen.

money.....

Yes, of course it's about money. But the NRA still does not dictate gun policy.

And don't kid yourself into thinking that Democrat politicians are not taking money from lobby groups.

actually, right now it has been dictating gun policy, including the writing of statutes. that's what lobbyists do. and GOP pols are subject to their influence because you don't find one-issue NRA voters anywhere but the reddest states.

I'm not familiar with this issue. Can you give me an example of an NRA lobbyist dictating gun policy?

right now about 2% of Americans have 50% of the country's guns. those 2% are the one-issue voters. you see them spamming this board with NRA propaganda. the rest of the country wants enough regulation to prevent people who shouldn't have guns from getting them. that doesn't require bans. it doesn't require any infringement on the 2nd. it only requires a willingness to target the dangerously ill, felons and domestic abusers to make huge inroads.

the next posts you see will include some type of BS that those changes "won't end gun violence". that's probably true. but we basically have a mass shooting a day in this country. that's obscene and we don't look at any other problem and say "oh well, it won't solve the problem 100% so we won't do anything"

Pro 2nd Amendment people are not suggesting we do nothing in lieu of banning firearms. They and the NRA have proposed alternative measures to approach the problem but, just as you say 2nd Amendment supporters do, pro gun control advocates say it won't solve the problem. So around and around we go.

And the deputies on scene made sure he had access to his victims of choice.

The NRA doesn't dictate gun policy in this country, contrary to what most liberals may believe.

The NRA has conservatives by the balls

Young people like David Hogg want to hold them accountable

Maybe, maybe not. But they still don't dictate gun policy. If the NRA has some conservatives by the balls it's because they allowed it to happen.

money.....

Yes, of course it's about money. But the NRA still does not dictate gun policy.

And don't kid yourself into thinking that Democrat politicians are not taking money from lobby groups.

who said democrats don't take money from lobbying groups? just wondering.

but democrats don't take money from the gun manufacturers' lobby. do they? are people dying because of any lobbies democrats fund? Me? I don't think there should be any money in politics except for a set amount allocated by the government for people running for office. poof. no more lobbies with money.

on background checks (which is really the bulk of what people are talking about)

NRA Chief's Bogus Background Check Claims - FactCheck.org

Analysis | Fact-checking Trump, NRA claims on gun background checks

NRA funding

How The Gun Industry Funnels Tens Of Millions Of Dollars To The NRA


oh... and this is why NRA money matters in an election (part of which I've already elaborated upon)

The real reason the NRA’s money matters in elections

and hiding behind being "Pro 2nd amendment" is nonsense. you aren't "pro 2nd amendment". you're pro unlimited access to unlimited weapons by people who shouldn't be allowed to have those weapons.

and that has NEVER been what the 2nd amendment stands for. not ever... until NRA propaganda .... on behalf of gun manufacturers.

oh... there's a shooting at a school? 17 people were murdered? no problem. ... buy more guns, right?

Great. I hope lots of companies and people are donating to the NRA to help citizens protect themselves and practice a constitutional right. That is AWESOME news. Thanks.

 

[jknowgood]

There's no policy that "allows" children to be killed. In fact, there's no policy that allows anyone to be killed. Cruz didn't kill those kids because policy "allowed" him to do it, he killed them because he wanted to and he wasn't going to let any law or policy stop him no matter what.

The NRA and their republican flunkies made sure he had access to the weapons of his choice

How dare you deny a crazy person his second amendment remedies?

And the deputies on scene made sure he had access to his victims of choice.

The NRA doesn't dictate gun policy in this country, contrary to what most liberals may believe.

The NRA has conservatives by the balls

Young people like David Hogg want to hold them accountable

and look how disgusting the NRA shills have been to young people who have been shot at because of their insane gun policies.

It is part of the GOP playbook

Attack the victim

Ole Hogg doesn't want clear back packs, one government solution. He doesn't want help, just to gun grab. Screw him.

 

[Geaux4it]

Maybe, maybe not. But they still don't dictate gun policy. If the NRA has some conservatives by the balls it's because they allowed it to happen.

money.....

Yes, of course it's about money. But the NRA still does not dictate gun policy.

And don't kid yourself into thinking that Democrat politicians are not taking money from lobby groups.

actually, right now it has been dictating gun policy, including the writing of statutes. that's what lobbyists do. and GOP pols are subject to their influence because you don't find one-issue NRA voters anywhere but the reddest states.

I'm not familiar with this issue. Can you give me an example of an NRA lobbyist dictating gun policy?

right now about 2% of Americans have 50% of the country's guns. those 2% are the one-issue voters. you see them spamming this board with NRA propaganda. the rest of the country wants enough regulation to prevent people who shouldn't have guns from getting them. that doesn't require bans. it doesn't require any infringement on the 2nd. it only requires a willingness to target the dangerously ill, felons and domestic abusers to make huge inroads.

the next posts you see will include some type of BS that those changes "won't end gun violence". that's probably true. but we basically have a mass shooting a day in this country. that's obscene and we don't look at any other problem and say "oh well, it won't solve the problem 100% so we won't do anything"

Pro 2nd Amendment people are not suggesting we do nothing in lieu of banning firearms. They and the NRA have proposed alternative measures to approach the problem but, just as you say 2nd Amendment supporters do, pro gun control advocates say it won't solve the problem. So around and around we go.

And the deputies on scene made sure he had access to his victims of choice.

The NRA doesn't dictate gun policy in this country, contrary to what most liberals may believe.

The NRA has conservatives by the balls

Young people like David Hogg want to hold them accountable

Maybe, maybe not. But they still don't dictate gun policy. If the NRA has some conservatives by the balls it's because they allowed it to happen.

money.....

Yes, of course it's about money. But the NRA still does not dictate gun policy.

And don't kid yourself into thinking that Democrat politicians are not taking money from lobby groups.

who said democrats don't take money from lobbying groups? just wondering.

but democrats don't take money from the gun manufacturers' lobby. do they? are people dying because of any lobbies democrats fund? Me? I don't think there should be any money in politics except for a set amount allocated by the government for people running for office. poof. no more lobbies with money.

on background checks (which is really the bulk of what people are talking about)

NRA Chief's Bogus Background Check Claims - FactCheck.org

Analysis | Fact-checking Trump, NRA claims on gun background checks

NRA funding

How The Gun Industry Funnels Tens Of Millions Of Dollars To The NRA


oh... and this is why NRA money matters in an election (part of which I've already elaborated upon)

The real reason the NRA’s money matters in elections

and hiding behind being "Pro 2nd amendment" is nonsense. you aren't "pro 2nd amendment". you're pro unlimited access to unlimited weapons by people who shouldn't be allowed to have those weapons.

and that has NEVER been what the 2nd amendment stands for. not ever... until NRA propaganda .... on behalf of gun manufacturers.

oh... there's a shooting at a school? 17 people were murdered? no problem. ... buy more guns, right?

I'll answer one of your questions

"are people dying because of any lobbies democrats fund"?

Answer is yes- Planned Parenthood

-Geaux

 

[August West]

Since we already know that murder laws (which carry the highest penalties) do not deter these crazies, then we can also assume that they will not follow a silly gun control law. Therefore, I have to conclude that the anti rights people just want to leave people at the mercy of criminals and the racist murdering cops. Because that is the only thing they will be accomplishing, disarming people and preventing them from defending themselves against the criminals and murderers in society. Creating a great and safe working atmosphere for the criminal and murderer. Nice.

money.....

Yes, of course it's about money. But the NRA still does not dictate gun policy.

And don't kid yourself into thinking that Democrat politicians are not taking money from lobby groups.

actually, right now it has been dictating gun policy, including the writing of statutes. that's what lobbyists do. and GOP pols are subject to their influence because you don't find one-issue NRA voters anywhere but the reddest states.

I'm not familiar with this issue. Can you give me an example of an NRA lobbyist dictating gun policy?

right now about 2% of Americans have 50% of the country's guns. those 2% are the one-issue voters. you see them spamming this board with NRA propaganda. the rest of the country wants enough regulation to prevent people who shouldn't have guns from getting them. that doesn't require bans. it doesn't require any infringement on the 2nd. it only requires a willingness to target the dangerously ill, felons and domestic abusers to make huge inroads.

the next posts you see will include some type of BS that those changes "won't end gun violence". that's probably true. but we basically have a mass shooting a day in this country. that's obscene and we don't look at any other problem and say "oh well, it won't solve the problem 100% so we won't do anything"

Pro 2nd Amendment people are not suggesting we do nothing in lieu of banning firearms. They and the NRA have proposed alternative measures to approach the problem but, just as you say 2nd Amendment supporters do, pro gun control advocates say it won't solve the problem. So around and around we go.

The NRA has conservatives by the balls

Young people like David Hogg want to hold them accountable

Maybe, maybe not. But they still don't dictate gun policy. If the NRA has some conservatives by the balls it's because they allowed it to happen.

money.....

Yes, of course it's about money. But the NRA still does not dictate gun policy.

And don't kid yourself into thinking that Democrat politicians are not taking money from lobby groups.

who said democrats don't take money from lobbying groups? just wondering.

but democrats don't take money from the gun manufacturers' lobby. do they? are people dying because of any lobbies democrats fund? Me? I don't think there should be any money in politics except for a set amount allocated by the government for people running for office. poof. no more lobbies with money.

on background checks (which is really the bulk of what people are talking about)

NRA Chief's Bogus Background Check Claims - FactCheck.org

Analysis | Fact-checking Trump, NRA claims on gun background checks

NRA funding

How The Gun Industry Funnels Tens Of Millions Of Dollars To The NRA


oh... and this is why NRA money matters in an election (part of which I've already elaborated upon)

The real reason the NRA’s money matters in elections

and hiding behind being "Pro 2nd amendment" is nonsense. you aren't "pro 2nd amendment". you're pro unlimited access to unlimited weapons by people who shouldn't be allowed to have those weapons.

and that has NEVER been what the 2nd amendment stands for. not ever... until NRA propaganda .... on behalf of gun manufacturers.

oh... there's a shooting at a school? 17 people were murdered? no problem. ... buy more guns, right?

I'll answer one of your questions

"are people dying because of any lobbies democrats fund"?

Answer is yes- Planned Parenthood

-Geaux

David Hogg is the bad guy, not the gun/criminal/terrorist lobby, not the mass murderer. WTF is wrong with the idiots here?