We need to stop over-reacting to the Coronavirus.

[MarcATL]

If we all self quarantine ourselves and destroying our economy at the order of the .gov, is the coronavirus going to be completely eliminated form the Earth? It came from somewhere and when we all come out of hiding, completely broke, what is to stop it from starting all over again.
I don't want to see people die, I'm 73 with copd, but it is a natural process of life. If those young and healthy are exposed won't they build up antibodies to the strain of coronavirus currently in circulation, without destroying our country's economy.
From what I've read the vast majority of those death are due to underlying conditions, and that's usually the case with any flu. This coronavirus may be worse than other years but we've had worse years and we didn't destroy the worlds economy.
Where I live, in So. Oregon, our closest big city is 70mi away, our town of 10 thousand has 0 cases of coronavirus yet we are all sitting home told to self isolate. The order from the governor mandating quarantine should come today because california did it and our governor does whatever calif. does.

You better get on your knees and thank God that you have such a SENSIBLE Governor. Now.

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[WEATHER53]

You do understand, don’t you, that if 10,000 out of One million New Yorkers tezt positive and two weeks later 40,000 out of Four million are positive there is NOT a media inspired quadrupling?
If you don’t I Will explain. It’s the same percentage, the “rate” of infection is Not Increasing. The sample size enlarged and the infected matched stride. Liberals try to present percentages and hard numbers as the same and when a bit more sophisticated they try to mingle or blend them.

I get what you are saying. I am just not sure what point you trying to make.

Are you saying the reporting by New York if faulty ?

No.
What I am saying is that as more and more people get tested then the hard numbers will and are increasing but are doing so in the same proportional percentage.
Liberals are ignoring or misquoting that and are rolling out the default excuses beginning with “a lot of people have it mildly but are passing it onto others who get it much more severely” which is unknown and unproven but in line with the “worst case scenario” hysteria

It is not unproven,just not accepted, there is a difference. What reason could you probably have to assume that this particular virus acts in other ways than every other virus known to man? Every virus when transmitted is fully capable of transmitting themselves fully virulent, meaning that transmission doesn't mean it loses it's potential. In this case, some people hardly notice other people come down with sever pneumonia.

You presentation does not address my main point and offers some I never made
That’s s Lib 101 trick that we recognize
What I did offer is the “excuse” that since the symptoms are mild or non noticeable in 80% of the cases then why is it presumed as fact and presented as fact that those 80% WILL transmit the virus to others for sure and that it will be more severe.

Really, you are accusing me of putting up a strawman? I'll tell you what, go on this board, on youtube... wherever you want . Find me one person left or right who has ever claimed that people who catch this are guaranteed to infect others more severely. I dare you since that's your accusation and since we are on the topic of strawman.

Not going to do your homework and go thru 116 pages when I’ve been on this thread from the start. Perhaps you have not been fully involved in this thread so to dispute my contention you can review 116 pages and count the references to “the people who don’t know they had it or had it mildly will infect other people far more severely”

 

[MarcATL]

The economy is being harmed by the Coronavirus hysteria created by the mainstream media. The virus itself will not harm our economy that much as long as we don't over-react. Most of the damage being done by the Coronavirus is being done by people talking about it and over-reacting. Contrast this with how well the world handled the flu pandemic of 1918. The stock market in the USA actually only dropped about 5% that year.

To put things into perspective, the 1918 flu killed about 50,000,000 people out of 1.6 billion. Today, that would be proportional to a virus killing about 215 million people worldwide. That sounds like it would be devastating, except if there was no global market crash in 1918, there is certainly no reason for us to panic and create one today.

We need to stop panicking, stoically let the virus run its course and keep working or we might suffer an economic depression.

It is idiotic to think that millions, possibly hundreds of million dead people, and many more who get sick would not harm the economy. Our RE-action is intended to prevent those deaths and illnesses. Yes , shutting the country down to quell this thing id doing damage, but it is short term damage, and we will quickly get back to normal when it passes . And you are wrong about 1918.

The economic effect of the 1918 influenza epidemic
Economic Effects during the Influenza Pandemic. The pandemic influenza during 1918, didn’t affect only the country socially but economically as well. Businesses were impacted from the decreased labor force as a result of the influenza. The increased percentage of the death rate was high and considered excessive.
The Influenza Pandemic Of 1918 History Essay - UKEssays.com

In addition, it is especially dispicable to suggest that those lives are expendable in the name of economic considerations. YOU migh be one of them.

Our RE-action is intended to prevent those deaths and illnesses

OK walk me through it - facts not conclusions.

HOW will someone who is not immunocompromised , malnourished and who does not eat bats will benefit from medical martial law.

Medical or scientific facts not conclusions

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Looking more like 80% of infectees have it so mild or no symptoms.
Now lib panic peddlers are declaring that as a Bad Thing with the worst case assumption presented incorrectly as fact that those 80% will in turn infect others with a Far More Deadly effect.
Anthing that happens with or is discovered about this virus is immediately seized upon by the Hate Trump and Destroy USA as either negative or leading to another sure fire worst case scenario.

#LOLGOP #TooFunny

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[WEATHER53]

If we all self quarantine ourselves and destroying our economy at the order of the .gov, is the coronavirus going to be completely eliminated form the Earth? It came from somewhere and when we all come out of hiding, completely broke, what is to stop it from starting all over again.
I don't want to see people die, I'm 73 with copd, but it is a natural process of life. If those young and healthy are exposed won't they build up antibodies to the strain of coronavirus currently in circulation, without destroying our country's economy.
From what I've read the vast majority of those death are due to underlying conditions, and that's usually the case with any flu. This coronavirus may be worse than other years but we've had worse years and we didn't destroy the worlds economy.
Where I live, in So. Oregon, our closest big city is 70mi away, our town of 10 thousand has 0 cases of coronavirus yet we are all sitting home told to self isolate. The order from the governor mandating quarantine should come today because california did it and our governor does whatever calif. does.

You better get on your knees and thank God that you have such a SENSIBLE Governor. Now.

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On your knees order the libbie loons

 

[Blaine Sweeter]

The economy is being harmed by the Coronavirus hysteria created by the mainstream media. The virus itself will not harm our economy that much as long as we don't over-react. Most of the damage being done by the Coronavirus is being done by people talking about it and over-reacting. Contrast this with how well the world handled the flu pandemic of 1918. The stock market in the USA actually only dropped about 5% that year.

To put things into perspective, the 1918 flu killed about 50,000,000 people out of 1.6 billion. Today, that would be proportional to a virus killing about 215 million people worldwide. That sounds like it would be devastating, except if there was no global market crash in 1918, there is certainly no reason for us to panic and create one today.

We need to stop panicking, stoically let the virus run its course and keep working or we might suffer an economic depression.

I guess the O/P feels pretty much like the stupid moron we thought he was.

 

[MarcATL]

The economy is being harmed by the Coronavirus hysteria created by the mainstream media. The virus itself will not harm our economy that much as long as we don't over-react. Most of the damage being done by the Coronavirus is being done by people talking about it and over-reacting. Contrast this with how well the world handled the flu pandemic of 1918. The stock market in the USA actually only dropped about 5% that year.

To put things into perspective, the 1918 flu killed about 50,000,000 people out of 1.6 billion. Today, that would be proportional to a virus killing about 215 million people worldwide. That sounds like it would be devastating, except if there was no global market crash in 1918, there is certainly no reason for us to panic and create one today.

We need to stop panicking, stoically let the virus run its course and keep working or we might suffer an economic depression.

It is idiotic to think that millions, possibly hundreds of million dead people, and many more who get sick would not harm the economy. Our RE-action is intended to prevent those deaths and illnesses. Yes , shutting the country down to quell this thing id doing damage, but it is short term damage, and we will quickly get back to normal when it passes . And you are wrong about 1918.

The economic effect of the 1918 influenza epidemic
Economic Effects during the Influenza Pandemic. The pandemic influenza during 1918, didn’t affect only the country socially but economically as well. Businesses were impacted from the decreased labor force as a result of the influenza. The increased percentage of the death rate was high and considered excessive.
The Influenza Pandemic Of 1918 History Essay - UKEssays.com

In addition, it is especially dispicable to suggest that those lives are expendable in the name of economic considerations. YOU migh be one of them.

Our RE-action is intended to prevent those deaths and illnesses

OK walk me through it - facts not conclusions.

HOW will someone who is not immunocompromised , malnourished and who does not eat bats will benefit from medical martial law.

Medical or scientific facts not conclusions

.

Looking more like 80% of infectees have it so mild or no symptoms.
Now lib panic peddlers are declaring that as a Bad Thing with the worst case assumption presented incorrectly as fact that those 80% will in turn infect others with a Far More Deadly effect.
Anthing that happens with or is discovered about this virus is immediately seized upon by the Hate Trump and Destroy USA as either negative or leading to another sure fire worst case scenario.

EXACTLY.

I get suspicious when places like Seattle Washington , that elected a socialist Councilmember Kshama Sawant., claim that they are the epicenter of the coronavirus infections in the US.

Why?

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[Likkmee]

Here. Just stay at the house and make yourself useful
Dont gimme shit. Just DO IT

 

[MarcATL]

I survived the coronavirus hysteria of 2020 and all I got was this damn t-shirt.

Look at this BUFFOON...just like the President, injecting their stupid partisan politics into everything, even when lives are at stake.

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You mean like CNN/MSNBC/WP?NYT does 24/7. They see this global pandemic as their chance to get President Trump out of the White house.
They are so fucking stupid they don't realise they are in fact guaranteeing Trump is reelected.

If this is truly a global conspiracy to take down Trump, then wouldn't that mean you don't have the numbers to reelect that dumb bastard?

Think McFly, think!

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[MarcATL]

No one has given the American people the kind of reassurance that is needed to for us to keep calm and carry on. If Americans are over-reacting it's because we know in our hearts our health care system cannot handle this effectively.

Everything will be fine when President Trump finds all the medical supplies President BONOBO stored away in case of a pandemic just like he was supposed to do according to the WHO. Right?
There are millions and millions of masks sitting in huge warehouses somewhere in Nevada. And millions of ventilators too! And gowns and gloves.
President Trump has been trying to get BONOBO on the phone but the reception isn't that great on the luxury yacht the BONOBO's are holidaying on in the Caribbean.

Is that the latest excuse? Obama hid all the supplies to spite Trump on a pandemic that hadn't happened yet? You people will believe anything.

Like zombies...

"Must. Defend. Trump."

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[jc456]

the dem/lib comments on this are not aimed at finding ways to curb or stop the spread of the virus. they are solely political bullshit aimed at trying to make Trump look bad and help elect old senile corrupt incompetent Biden

fk dude, even the doctors that come on the tv to give their updates. where the fk is their responsibility in all of this? Why didn't their hospitals reach out for supplies? WTF, throw over the fence and say hey the president didn't tell us? WTF. I'm done listening to nonsense from Dr.s that are politicizing this. it's almost everyone of them. They should be Offering advice recommendations, helping getting material for their local medical personnel not getting on tv and bitching that they need shit. Go fking get it. You know what they'll find, none was manufactured at a volume for the demand. And, that isn't trump's fault. The CDC's or anyone in the fed gov. Nope, the local hospitals set the volume based on their volume. they only maintained two weeks of inventory. Don't they have any responsibility to think about an outbreak? why is this only trump?

Its crystal clear to see, that you have COMPLETELY lost your cotton-pickin' mind.

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In the past the stupidity of JC456 and others like him/her was frustrating and funny at the same time. It is no longer funny.
It threatens to undermine our country. I truly wonder if they could be foreign agents.
We will get to the other side of this virus but the JC456's are making it more difficult and are undermining the US mandated response. They are ignoring the directions of their messiah, Trump. If they are Americans, they are traitors in the strongest sense.

I’m right here internet tough guy. Hey your rants are special indeed

Where is right here, Moscow, better yet Tehran? You are no American.

You wouldn’t know an american if you were in our country

 

[jc456]

I survived the coronavirus hysteria of 2020 and all I got was this damn t-shirt.

Look at this BUFFOON...just like the President, injecting their stupid partisan politics into everything, even when lives are at stake.

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You mean like CNN/MSNBC/WP?NYT does 24/7. They see this global pandemic as their chance to get President Trump out of the White house.
They are so fucking stupid they don't realise they are in fact guaranteeing Trump is reelected.

If this is truly a global conspiracy to take down Trump, then wouldn't that mean you don't have the numbers to reelect that dumb bastard?

Think McFly, think!

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Hoax

 

[Hutch Starskey]

You're an idiot.
I never said it wasn't a corona virus. I said it was a new corona virus. A novel virus, new to humans who have no natural immunity.
COVID-19 coronavirus epidemic has a natural origin

The current test does indeed test for the RNA markers specific to this strain.
How do the new coronavirus tests work? | Live Science


Stop being a dope and educate yourself.

The only thing that makes it novel are a couple proteins on the outer shell it still shares characteristics of other related Corona viruses



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No, dope.
By definition a novel virus is new to humans. As it has never existed in the human body previously, humans have no natural immunity.

By definition it is a corona virus and related to all other corona viruses and differs from other corona viruses that infect humans like SARS by a very small sequence of its genome

In this case there is a specific protein projection on the virus that was not found in SARS but COVID 19 has a 96% genetic similarity to other know corona viruses

Mutation Which Makes Coronavirus Extremely Infectious

“The mutation could not be found in Sars, Mers or Bat-CoVRaTG13, a bat coronavirus that was considered the original source of the new coronavirus with 96 percent similarity in genes”

Irrelevant nonsense. It's a novel virus, dope.
No on has a natural immunity. Heard or otherwise.

Yeah it's novel in the sense that it it just a little different from other corona viruses. It is a mutation of a virus that has already been in existence. The differences do not have to be great but since it is a corona virus it's genome is very similar to other corona viruses so we have a starting place in the research for either a vaccine or a treatment

Every year the flu virus mutates and it is never the same as the year before so technically the new mutations of the flu virus are novel too but they are similar enough to past flu viruses

you really are thick

You are simply wrong. You are promoting erroneous information. You are part of the problem. Just stop.
Novel means new to humans. Period.

 

[jc456]

The only thing that makes it novel are a couple proteins on the outer shell it still shares characteristics of other related Corona viruses



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No, dope.
By definition a novel virus is new to humans. As it has never existed in the human body previously, humans have no natural immunity.

By definition it is a corona virus and related to all other corona viruses and differs from other corona viruses that infect humans like SARS by a very small sequence of its genome

In this case there is a specific protein projection on the virus that was not found in SARS but COVID 19 has a 96% genetic similarity to other know corona viruses

Mutation Which Makes Coronavirus Extremely Infectious

“The mutation could not be found in Sars, Mers or Bat-CoVRaTG13, a bat coronavirus that was considered the original source of the new coronavirus with 96 percent similarity in genes”

Irrelevant nonsense. It's a novel virus, dope.
No on has a natural immunity. Heard or otherwise.

Yeah it's novel in the sense that it it just a little different from other corona viruses. It is a mutation of a virus that has already been in existence. The differences do not have to be great but since it is a corona virus it's genome is very similar to other corona viruses so we have a starting place in the research for either a vaccine or a treatment

Every year the flu virus mutates and it is never the same as the year before so technically the new mutations of the flu virus are novel too but they are similar enough to past flu viruses

you really are thick

You are simply wrong. You are promoting erroneous information. You are part of the problem. Just stop.
Novel means new to humans. Period.

What was erroneous about his post? They’ve all said it is a mutant SARS virus. Why would they make that comment if it was novel? You’re confused as usual

 

[forkup]

I get what you are saying. I am just not sure what point you trying to make.

Are you saying the reporting by New York if faulty ?

No.
What I am saying is that as more and more people get tested then the hard numbers will and are increasing but are doing so in the same proportional percentage.
Liberals are ignoring or misquoting that and are rolling out the default excuses beginning with “a lot of people have it mildly but are passing it onto others who get it much more severely” which is unknown and unproven but in line with the “worst case scenario” hysteria

It is not unproven,just not accepted, there is a difference. What reason could you probably have to assume that this particular virus acts in other ways than every other virus known to man? Every virus when transmitted is fully capable of transmitting themselves fully virulent, meaning that transmission doesn't mean it loses it's potential. In this case, some people hardly notice other people come down with sever pneumonia.

You presentation does not address my main point and offers some I never made
That’s s Lib 101 trick that we recognize
What I did offer is the “excuse” that since the symptoms are mild or non noticeable in 80% of the cases then why is it presumed as fact and presented as fact that those 80% WILL transmit the virus to others for sure and that it will be more severe.

Really, you are accusing me of putting up a strawman? I'll tell you what, go on this board, on youtube... wherever you want . Find me one person left or right who has ever claimed that people who catch this are guaranteed to infect others more severely. I dare you since that's your accusation and since we are on the topic of strawman.

Not going g to do your homework and go thru 116 pages when I’ve been on this thread from the start. Perhaps you have not been fully involved in this thread so to dispute my contention you can review 116 pages and count the references to “the people who don’t know that had it or had it mildly will infect other people far more severely”

And that possibility corroborates your contention that the left claims it's a certainty? The possibility is my contention and as far as I know everybody's . It's also not my claim but yours, establishing the truth IS your homework.

I will also briefly touch on your other claim. Namely that left-wing fuddle numbers. Yesterday I had 2 OP's I answered about the differences between H1N1 and covid 19.In it I pointed out the actual mortality rate of H1N1 and lowballed the current COVID 19 number for the reason that the way Covid 19 manifests itself means the number will be high. In response someone on the right gave the total CONFIRMED number of infected in the US as a percentage of total population. A number that is meaningless in so many ways.

So far going to all threads it's the right that plays fast and loose in an attempt to make this thing seem almost benign. You are also seeing some people on the right now changing their tune as the reality sets in. In another week maybe 2 the full effects will become more visible.

 

[WEATHER53]

I did my truth as It has been provided to me here and via other resources.
You get up to speed and find out where I am in error, I don’t Prove myself “innocent”

 

[forkup]

I did my truth as It has been provided to me here and via other resources.
You get up to speed and find out where I am in error, I don’t Prove myself “innocent”

What you did was put up a strawman. One you now are unable to support.

 

[jc456]

I did my truth as It has been provided to me here and via other resources.
You get up to speed and find out where I am in error, I don’t Prove myself “innocent”

What you did was put up a strawman. One you now are unable to support.

Racist and straw man all you got

 

[jc456]

No.
What I am saying is that as more and more people get tested then the hard numbers will and are increasing but are doing so in the same proportional percentage.
Liberals are ignoring or misquoting that and are rolling out the default excuses beginning with “a lot of people have it mildly but are passing it onto others who get it much more severely” which is unknown and unproven but in line with the “worst case scenario” hysteria

It is not unproven,just not accepted, there is a difference. What reason could you probably have to assume that this particular virus acts in other ways than every other virus known to man? Every virus when transmitted is fully capable of transmitting themselves fully virulent, meaning that transmission doesn't mean it loses it's potential. In this case, some people hardly notice other people come down with sever pneumonia.

You presentation does not address my main point and offers some I never made
That’s s Lib 101 trick that we recognize
What I did offer is the “excuse” that since the symptoms are mild or non noticeable in 80% of the cases then why is it presumed as fact and presented as fact that those 80% WILL transmit the virus to others for sure and that it will be more severe.

Really, you are accusing me of putting up a strawman? I'll tell you what, go on this board, on youtube... wherever you want . Find me one person left or right who has ever claimed that people who catch this are guaranteed to infect others more severely. I dare you since that's your accusation and since we are on the topic of strawman.

Not going g to do your homework and go thru 116 pages when I’ve been on this thread from the start. Perhaps you have not been fully involved in this thread so to dispute my contention you can review 116 pages and count the references to “the people who don’t know that had it or had it mildly will infect other people far more severely”

And that possibility corroborates your contention that the left claims it's a certainty? The possibility is my contention and as far as I know everybody's . It's also not my claim but yours, establishing the truth IS your homework.

I will also briefly touch on your other claim. Namely that left-wing fuddle numbers. Yesterday I had 2 OP's I answered about the differences between H1N1 and covid 19.In it I pointed out the actual mortality rate of H1N1 and lowballed the current COVID 19 number for the reason that the way Covid 19 manifests itself means the number will be high. In response someone on the right gave the total CONFIRMED number of infected in the US as a percentage of total population. A number that is meaningless in so many ways.

So far going to all threads it's the right that plays fast and loose in an attempt to make this thing seem almost benign. You are also seeing some people on the right now changing their tune as the reality sets in. In another week maybe 2 the full effects will become more visible.

320 million in the USA divide that into the number of cases gives one the percentage of Americans with it. You should go to school and learn you some math

 

[Contumacious]

Further evidence that the powers-that-be have no idea what the fuck they are talking about - Azithromycin in an ANTIBIOTIC which means that covid-19 may not be a virus

But Why Are Antibiotics & Not Anti-Virals Quelling The COVID-19 Coronavirus? Is It Really A Virus?

• Antibiotics cannot be used for viruses. If a virus, then why aren’t antiviral drugs working but antibiotics are?
• COVID-19 coronavirus may just be a “passenger virus,” not the primary microbial organism that kills by filling the lower lungs with fluid.

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You shouldn't be embracing nut job sites like lewrockwell....Good grief, next you'll be quoting Alex Jones...

If Lewrockwell is a "nut site" then you will be able to easily rebut or refute their assertions.

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I guess "nut site" may be a little harsh, but clearly Rockwell is advocating just letting the virus run its course...I think that is irresponsible...

...the CDC is owned by Big Pharma...

LOL....You need to provide fact to back up that crazy assertion....

Yes, the CDC and vaccine manufacturers have an incestuous relationship

Someday you will be old enough to understand that we are not being governed by angels.

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[hunarcy]

The economy is being harmed by the Coronavirus hysteria created by the mainstream media. The virus itself will not harm our economy that much as long as we don't over-react. Most of the damage being done by the Coronavirus is being done by people talking about it and over-reacting. Contrast this with how well the world handled the flu pandemic of 1918. The stock market in the USA actually only dropped about 5% that year.

To put things into perspective, the 1918 flu killed about 50,000,000 people out of 1.6 billion. Today, that would be proportional to a virus killing about 215 million people worldwide. That sounds like it would be devastating, except if there was no global market crash in 1918, there is certainly no reason for us to panic and create one today.

We need to stop panicking, stoically let the virus run its course and keep working or we might suffer an economic depression.

Well, you're right, it is not polio or small pox. But, we do need to be wise so we don't overwhelm the system.