WE TOLD YOU So!!! Single Payer health care MODEL?? UK doctors striking!

[healthmyths]

And all you idiots like Obama that have used UK/Canada as role models for single payer???
See what is happening to your "role models"!

Medics are walking out from 8am to 5pm today and tomorrow as the row over 7-day contracts explodes. Follow live updates here
Junior doctors are making history by staging the first all-out strike since the NHS launched in 1948.

How does the strike affect your medical care? Find out here.

Jeremy Hunt has admitted that 'this is likely to be my last big job in politics', in an interview this morning.

The Health Secretary had begged junior doctors to halt the strike,warning it would cost lives and the BMA union "wanted war". But the BMA warned he, not medics, will have blood on his hands - both legally and in the public's eyes.

Live updates as junior doctors stage first full all-out strike in NHS history

These results are clearly visible in Sweden. There are very few private practices left. Of the few that are left, most are part of the national insurance system. A huge bureaucracy has been erected to take on all the necessary central planning of public and pseudo-private healthcare.

When Swedes go to the polls every four years, they vote on three levels of government: national, landsting, and kommun. A landsting is a regional mid-level type of government and there are 20 of them. The landstings are almost entirely devoted to managing public healthcare. They are always short on funding and regularly make losses.
The advantage of a free market system, as I am sure the venerable professor Frank knows, is that supply and demand meet to form prices. These prices are signals to the practitioners and tell them what their patients need and value most. If there were a sudden surge in demand for open-heart surgery, the price of that service would, ceteris paribus, rise. The practitioners would be motivated by the rising price to move into fields where they can make higher profits
The Truth About SwedenCare

 

[Manchester]

The UK NHS has been there since 1947, taking care of every man woman and child from cradle to grave. Doctors go on strike because of attempts by the very right wing british government to impose crazy working hours on already stretched junior doctors and you take THAT as a sign that your pet idea (name gives it away) is somehow vindicated.

1947!!!!

You want some damn evidence, here's some for you. Here is what having an insuance middle man making his profits between doctor and patient does. Here is what having a health insurance industry that has more sway in the cpaital than any politican does.

 

[washamericom]

i'd like to trade obamacare even steven to get that bust of Winston Churchill the colonialist back.


obamacare has hurt more people than it's helped. he's obama and he cares, both soon to be retired.

 

[longknife]

At the moment, it's the "junior doctors" on strike. They seem to take turns between them, the "senior doctors" and the nurses.

 

[Silhouette]

OP has nothing to do with the potential success this country could reap from taking the burden of the equivalent of a 2nd mortgage off folks backs and removing a similar burden from business and manufacturing for their employees.

Tax crap food, booze and cigs at the register, small co pays for routine care. Let the rich have their private care separate and watch the consuming, jobs and economy take off.

Those doctors are probably striking because administrators are skimming. The usual.

 

[Manchester]

At the moment, it's the "junior doctors" on strike. They seem to take turns between them, the "senior doctors" and the nurses.

Last UK doctors strikes before this dispute were in 1975. I suspect you're talking as if you have knowledge on a subject when you don't.

 

[BluesLegend]

Single Payer means doctors and nurses become Government owned slaves to the state.

 

[g5000]

The UK NHS has been there since 1947, taking care of every man woman and child from cradle to grave. Doctors go on strike because of attempts by the very right wing british government to impose crazy working hours on already stretched junior doctors and you take THAT as a sign that your pet idea (name gives it away) is somehow vindicated.

1947!!!!

You want some damn evidence, here's some for you. Here is what having an insuance middle man making his profits between doctor and patient does. Here is what having a health insurance industry that has more sway in the cpaital than any politican does.

And how has ObamaCare reduced our per capita costs?

Oh, yeah. It hasn't. Our costs continue to climb.

 

[Manchester]

The UK NHS has been there since 1947, taking care of every man woman and child from cradle to grave. Doctors go on strike because of attempts by the very right wing british government to impose crazy working hours on already stretched junior doctors and you take THAT as a sign that your pet idea (name gives it away) is somehow vindicated.

1947!!!!

You want some damn evidence, here's some for you. Here is what having an insuance middle man making his profits between doctor and patient does. Here is what having a health insurance industry that has more sway in the cpaital than any politican does.

And how has ObamaCare reduced our per capital costs?

Oh, yeah. It hasn't. It continues to climb.

Nope, not one bit. That's the problem with being liberal you see, trying to please everyone and be all wishy washy. he should have hiked taxes up hard and nationalised all the hospitals. Compulsary purchases. Destroyed the health insurance industry in a stroke and done things right, not this half assed website has crashed failure. Show some of the whingers on here who bleat about the "far left" what real socialism is.

 

[konradv]

And all you idiots like Obama that have used UK/Canada as role models for single payer???
See what is happening to your "role models"!

Medics are walking out from 8am to 5pm today and tomorrow as the row over 7-day contracts explodes. Follow live updates here
Junior doctors are making history by staging the first all-out strike since the NHS launched in 1948.

How does the strike affect your medical care? Find out here.

Jeremy Hunt has admitted that 'this is likely to be my last big job in politics', in an interview this morning.

The Health Secretary had begged junior doctors to halt the strike,warning it would cost lives and the BMA union "wanted war". But the BMA warned he, not medics, will have blood on his hands - both legally and in the public's eyes.

Live updates as junior doctors stage first full all-out strike in NHS history

These results are clearly visible in Sweden. There are very few private practices left. Of the few that are left, most are part of the national insurance system. A huge bureaucracy has been erected to take on all the necessary central planning of public and pseudo-private healthcare.

When Swedes go to the polls every four years, they vote on three levels of government: national, landsting, and kommun. A landsting is a regional mid-level type of government and there are 20 of them. The landstings are almost entirely devoted to managing public healthcare. They are always short on funding and regularly make losses.
The advantage of a free market system, as I am sure the venerable professor Frank knows, is that supply and demand meet to form prices. These prices are signals to the practitioners and tell them what their patients need and value most. If there were a sudden surge in demand for open-heart surgery, the price of that service would, ceteris paribus, rise. The practitioners would be motivated by the rising price to move into fields where they can make higher profits
The Truth About SwedenCare

The UK and Canada have different systems. Britain's NHS isn't single-payer, that's Canada. The fact that you don't know that throws suspicion on anything you have to say.

 

[Timmy]

i'd like to trade obamacare even steven to get that bust of Winston Churchill the colonialist back.


obamacare has hurt more people than it's helped. he's obama and he cares, both soon to be retired.

God u righties just make shit up all the time !

 

[OnePercenter]

The UK NHS has been there since 1947, taking care of every man woman and child from cradle to grave. Doctors go on strike because of attempts by the very right wing british government to impose crazy working hours on already stretched junior doctors and you take THAT as a sign that your pet idea (name gives it away) is somehow vindicated.

1947!!!!

You want some damn evidence, here's some for you. Here is what having an insuance middle man making his profits between doctor and patient does. Here is what having a health insurance industry that has more sway in the cpaital than any politican does.

And how has ObamaCare reduced our per capita costs?

Oh, yeah. It hasn't. Our costs continue to climb.

And how has ObamaCare reduced our per capita costs?

Oh, yeah. It hasn't. Our costs continue to climb.

When you have insurance companies owning more than half of the healthcare providers in the US why would you expect costs to decrease?

Then you have the deregulation of the industry by Reagan. How's that working out for ya? ;-)

 

[OnePercenter]

i'd like to trade obamacare even steven to get that bust of Winston Churchill the colonialist back.


obamacare has hurt more people than it's helped. he's obama and he cares, both soon to be retired.

God u righties just make shit up all the time !

God u righties just make shit up all the time !

When you're a psychotic sociopath that's all you have.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Nope, not one bit. That's the problem with being liberal you see, trying to please everyone and be all wishy washy. he should have hiked taxes up hard and nationalised all the hospitals. Compulsary purchases. Destroyed the health insurance industry in a stroke and done things right, not this half assed website has crashed failure. Show some of the whingers on here who bleat about the "far left" what real socialism is.

The Democratic Party had a supermajority in both houses of Congress when ObamaCare was passed. They could have passed what ever they wanted, but his own party wouldn't even support what you suggest because they know Americans don't want your turd sandwich.

 

[OnePercenter]

Nope, not one bit. That's the problem with being liberal you see, trying to please everyone and be all wishy washy. he should have hiked taxes up hard and nationalised all the hospitals. Compulsary purchases. Destroyed the health insurance industry in a stroke and done things right, not this half assed website has crashed failure. Show some of the whingers on here who bleat about the "far left" what real socialism is.

The Democratic Party had a supermajority in both houses of Congress when ObamaCare was passed. They could have passed what ever they wanted, but his own party wouldn't even support what you suggest because they know Americans don't want your turd sandwich.

The Democratic Party had a supermajority in both houses of Congress when ObamaCare was passed. They could have passed what ever they wanted, but his own party wouldn't even support what you suggest because they know Americans don't want your turd sandwich.

Why don't you post the numbers for your 'supermajority.'

 

[jknowgood]

Nope, not one bit. That's the problem with being liberal you see, trying to please everyone and be all wishy washy. he should have hiked taxes up hard and nationalised all the hospitals. Compulsary purchases. Destroyed the health insurance industry in a stroke and done things right, not this half assed website has crashed failure. Show some of the whingers on here who bleat about the "far left" what real socialism is.

The Democratic Party had a supermajority in both houses of Congress when ObamaCare was passed. They could have passed what ever they wanted, but his own party wouldn't even support what you suggest because they know Americans don't want your turd sandwich.

The Democratic Party had a supermajority in both houses of Congress when ObamaCare was passed. They could have passed what ever they wanted, but his own party wouldn't even support what you suggest because they know Americans don't want your turd sandwich.

Why don't you post the numbers for your 'supermajority.'

They passed it without one republican vote. Is that enough of a majority?

 

[SwimExpert]

And all you idiots like Obama that have used UK/Canada as role models for single payer???
See what is happening to your "role models"!

Medics are walking out from 8am to 5pm today and tomorrow as the row over 7-day contracts explodes. Follow live updates here
Junior doctors are making history by staging the first all-out strike since the NHS launched in 1948.

How does the strike affect your medical care? Find out here.

Jeremy Hunt has admitted that 'this is likely to be my last big job in politics', in an interview this morning.

The Health Secretary had begged junior doctors to halt the strike,warning it would cost lives and the BMA union "wanted war". But the BMA warned he, not medics, will have blood on his hands - both legally and in the public's eyes.

Live updates as junior doctors stage first full all-out strike in NHS history

These results are clearly visible in Sweden. There are very few private practices left. Of the few that are left, most are part of the national insurance system. A huge bureaucracy has been erected to take on all the necessary central planning of public and pseudo-private healthcare.

When Swedes go to the polls every four years, they vote on three levels of government: national, landsting, and kommun. A landsting is a regional mid-level type of government and there are 20 of them. The landstings are almost entirely devoted to managing public healthcare. They are always short on funding and regularly make losses.
The advantage of a free market system, as I am sure the venerable professor Frank knows, is that supply and demand meet to form prices. These prices are signals to the practitioners and tell them what their patients need and value most. If there were a sudden surge in demand for open-heart surgery, the price of that service would, ceteris paribus, rise. The practitioners would be motivated by the rising price to move into fields where they can make higher profits
The Truth About SwedenCare

What the hell are you bitching about this time?

 

[OnePercenter]

Nope, not one bit. That's the problem with being liberal you see, trying to please everyone and be all wishy washy. he should have hiked taxes up hard and nationalised all the hospitals. Compulsary purchases. Destroyed the health insurance industry in a stroke and done things right, not this half assed website has crashed failure. Show some of the whingers on here who bleat about the "far left" what real socialism is.

The Democratic Party had a super-majority in both houses of Congress when ObamaCare was passed. They could have passed what ever they wanted, but his own party wouldn't even support what you suggest because they know Americans don't want your turd sandwich.

The Democratic Party had a supermajority in both houses of Congress when ObamaCare was passed. They could have passed what ever they wanted, but his own party wouldn't even support what you suggest because they know Americans don't want your turd sandwich.

Why don't you post the numbers for your 'supermajority.'

They passed it without one republican vote. Is that enough of a majority?

They passed it without one republican vote. Is that enough of a majority?

A supermajority is a number that is much more than half of a total, especially in a vote.

Why don't you post all of the voting numbers.

 

[healthmyths]

Nope, not one bit. That's the problem with being liberal you see, trying to please everyone and be all wishy washy. he should have hiked taxes up hard and nationalised all the hospitals. Compulsary purchases. Destroyed the health insurance industry in a stroke and done things right, not this half assed website has crashed failure. Show some of the whingers on here who bleat about the "far left" what real socialism is.

The Democratic Party had a supermajority in both houses of Congress when ObamaCare was passed. They could have passed what ever they wanted, but his own party wouldn't even support what you suggest because they know Americans don't want your turd sandwich.

The Democratic Party had a supermajority in both houses of Congress when ObamaCare was passed. They could have passed what ever they wanted, but his own party wouldn't even support what you suggest because they know Americans don't want your turd sandwich.

Why don't you post the numbers for your 'supermajority.'

H.R. 3590 (111th): Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act -- House Vote #165 -- Mar 21, 2010
All the GOP Senators voted NO..

All the GOP House voted NO plus 34 Democrats voted NO!

 

[healthmyths]

And all you idiots like Obama that have used UK/Canada as role models for single payer???
See what is happening to your "role models"!

Medics are walking out from 8am to 5pm today and tomorrow as the row over 7-day contracts explodes. Follow live updates here
Junior doctors are making history by staging the first all-out strike since the NHS launched in 1948.

How does the strike affect your medical care? Find out here.

Jeremy Hunt has admitted that 'this is likely to be my last big job in politics', in an interview this morning.

The Health Secretary had begged junior doctors to halt the strike,warning it would cost lives and the BMA union "wanted war". But the BMA warned he, not medics, will have blood on his hands - both legally and in the public's eyes.

Live updates as junior doctors stage first full all-out strike in NHS history

These results are clearly visible in Sweden. There are very few private practices left. Of the few that are left, most are part of the national insurance system. A huge bureaucracy has been erected to take on all the necessary central planning of public and pseudo-private healthcare.

When Swedes go to the polls every four years, they vote on three levels of government: national, landsting, and kommun. A landsting is a regional mid-level type of government and there are 20 of them. The landstings are almost entirely devoted to managing public healthcare. They are always short on funding and regularly make losses.
The advantage of a free market system, as I am sure the venerable professor Frank knows, is that supply and demand meet to form prices. These prices are signals to the practitioners and tell them what their patients need and value most. If there were a sudden surge in demand for open-heart surgery, the price of that service would, ceteris paribus, rise. The practitioners would be motivated by the rising price to move into fields where they can make higher profits
The Truth About SwedenCare

What the hell are you bitching about this time?

Because you idiots that use the above "single payer" as role models... GET ready because it is happening here!
Health Policy Experts Anticipate Fewer Doctors, Less Productivity Under Obamacare
Health Policy Experts Anticipate Fewer Doctors, Less Productivity Under Obamacare

Under Obamacare, doctors have been strained by costly new regulations, intricate payment “reforms” that tie their Medicare reimbursement to complex federal reporting requirements, and mandates that they install and make “meaningful” use of electronic health records.
Physicians for Reform :: New Estimate Of Obamacare's Fiscal Impact On Private Doctor Practices


Add a new burden to the mix: The proportion of patients they see are rapidly shifting away from commercial health plans and toward Medicaid, which sometimes pays doctors pennies on the dollar that they were previously reimbursed under private insurance.

Obamacare deals blow to one-doctor medicine
Despite the predictions of fortune tellers in politics and think tanks, we won’t know for years whether the Affordable Care Act, otherwise known as Obamacare, will ultimately leave people sicker or healthier, richer or poorer.

Yet already the law, coming on top of previous legislation, is speeding the demise of an American small-business institution; the one-doctor medical practice.

Physicians for Reform :: Obamacare deals blow to one-doctor medicine