What did our founders really mean when they said “general welfare”?

[danielpalos]

General, not specific.

public assistance is unconstitutional.

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Correction, FEDERAL public assistance is unconstitutional.

Why do you believe that? Our welfare clause is General and must cover any given contingency.

 

[danielpalos]

If the general welfare meant what the left claims it means then there would have been no need to follow it with specific things Congress could do since the statement general welfare would have covered everything.

Such an interpretation gives the federal government unlimited power, and renders meaningless the reserves of power to states.

This is why we cannot let people like Dan run our nation. He wants to give too much power to government and make us all slaves.

He is a commie.

we have a general government and a general welfare clause; coincidence or conspiracy?

Incorrect. We have a limited government with a very specific role.

The general welfare refers to the health of the Republic, not to any single citizen.

why do you believe that? private laws cover private citizens Individually.

 

[whitehall]

When you figure that one out try "insure domestic tranquility".

 

[CWayne]

General, not specific.

public assistance is unconstitutional.

.

Correction, FEDERAL public assistance is unconstitutional.

Why do you believe that? Our welfare clause is General and must cover any given contingency.

It must? Based on whose interpretation? I say is it specifically aimed at the welfare of the Republic, not individuals. All the foundational documents point to a limited government with the power residing with the people or the States.

 

[CWayne]

If the general welfare meant what the left claims it means then there would have been no need to follow it with specific things Congress could do since the statement general welfare would have covered everything.

Such an interpretation gives the federal government unlimited power, and renders meaningless the reserves of power to states.

This is why we cannot let people like Dan run our nation. He wants to give too much power to government and make us all slaves.

He is a commie.

we have a general government and a general welfare clause; coincidence or conspiracy?

Incorrect. We have a limited government with a very specific role.

The general welfare refers to the health of the Republic, not to any single citizen.

why do you believe that? private laws cover private citizens Individually.

Private laws? You'll have to define that. All laws in the US are public laws. There are no private laws.

 

[rightwinger]

General, not specific.

public assistance is unconstitutional.

.

Correction, FEDERAL public assistance is unconstitutional.

Of course it isn’t

 

[IM2]

General, not specific.

public assistance is unconstitutional.

.

Correction, FEDERAL public assistance is unconstitutional.

No it isn't.

 

[IM2]

21 percent of all blacks live in poverty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-money-but-they-still-lag-far-behind-whites/

Blacks still far behind whites in wealth and income

Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco | Disappointing Facts about the Black-White Wage Gap

https://psmag.com/economics/black-white-wage-gap-grows-as-americans-remain-in-denial

The wage gap between white and black men is growing wider

On February 28, 2018, Richard Rothstein of the Economic Policy Institute, wrote an op ed published in the New York Daily News entitled, “50 years after the Kerner Commission, minimal racial progress”. The Kerner Commission met in 1968 and made recommendation on how to move toward racial progress. It had been 50 years since the commission made those recommendations at that point yet Rothstein makes this statement: “So little has changed since 1968 that the report remains worth reading as a near-contemporary description of racial inequality”.

And you dare post your idiocy about blacks on public assistance like that's supposed to mean something.

Dumb ass.

Wage gap bullshit. I've worked at many different jobs over the past 20 years. Blacks and whites doing the same jobs earn the same pay.Only difference is, blacks get promoted to higher positions (by affirmative action), and then they get paid more.

As for black poverty, they can't get the AA benefits sleeping in bed till noon, and smoking crack till 6 PM, then staying up all night, drinking Ripple.

Shut your old white dementia addled ass up. Shit doesn't happen the way you say it. Turn black and let's talk about it.

 

[IM2]

If the general welfare meant what the left claims it means then there would have been no need to follow it with specific things Congress could do since the statement general welfare would have covered everything.

Such an interpretation gives the federal government unlimited power, and renders meaningless the reserves of power to states.

This is why we cannot let people like Dan run our nation. He wants to give too much power to government and make us all slaves.

He is a commie.

we have a general government and a general welfare clause; coincidence or conspiracy?

Incorrect. We have a limited government with a very specific role.

The general welfare refers to the health of the Republic, not to any single citizen.

The people are the republic so you are incorrect.

 

[BrokeLoser]

If the general welfare meant what the left claims it means then there would have been no need to follow it with specific things Congress could do since the statement general welfare would have covered everything.

Such an interpretation gives the federal government unlimited power, and renders meaningless the reserves of power to states.

This is why we cannot let people like Dan run our nation. He wants to give too much power to government and make us all slaves.

He is a commie.

we have a general government and a general welfare clause; coincidence or conspiracy?

Incorrect. We have a limited government with a very specific role.

The general welfare refers to the health of the Republic, not to any single citizen.

The people are the republic so you are incorrect.

He's absolutely correct..."GENERAL WELFARE" of the BODY of the Republic....Meaning tax revenues spent must benefit the whole body. Simple shit.

 

[dblack]

If the general welfare meant what the left claims it means then there would have been no need to follow it with specific things Congress could do since the statement general welfare would have covered everything.

Such an interpretation gives the federal government unlimited power, and renders meaningless the reserves of power to states.

This is why we cannot let people like Dan run our nation. He wants to give too much power to government and make us all slaves.

He is a commie.

we have a general government and a general welfare clause; coincidence or conspiracy?

Incorrect. We have a limited government with a very specific role.

The general welfare refers to the health of the Republic, not to any single citizen.

why do you believe that? private laws cover private citizens Individually.

Private laws? You'll have to define that. All laws in the US are public laws. There are no private laws.

Good luck with that.

 

[CWayne]

If the general welfare meant what the left claims it means then there would have been no need to follow it with specific things Congress could do since the statement general welfare would have covered everything.

Such an interpretation gives the federal government unlimited power, and renders meaningless the reserves of power to states.

This is why we cannot let people like Dan run our nation. He wants to give too much power to government and make us all slaves.

He is a commie.

we have a general government and a general welfare clause; coincidence or conspiracy?

Incorrect. We have a limited government with a very specific role.

The general welfare refers to the health of the Republic, not to any single citizen.

The people are the republic so you are incorrect.

I realize that this is too high a concept for you to grasp, but the limits of power is placed on the Government, but the general welfare clause refers to the Republic as a governing body.

 

[CWayne]

Such an interpretation gives the federal government unlimited power, and renders meaningless the reserves of power to states.

This is why we cannot let people like Dan run our nation. He wants to give too much power to government and make us all slaves.

He is a commie.

we have a general government and a general welfare clause; coincidence or conspiracy?

Incorrect. We have a limited government with a very specific role.

The general welfare refers to the health of the Republic, not to any single citizen.

why do you believe that? private laws cover private citizens Individually.

Private laws? You'll have to define that. All laws in the US are public laws. There are no private laws.

Good luck with that.

Can you name one of these 'private' laws, and what or who passed such a law that it is binding on me?

 

[danielpalos]

General, not specific.

public assistance is unconstitutional.

.

Correction, FEDERAL public assistance is unconstitutional.

Why do you believe that? Our welfare clause is General and must cover any given contingency.

It must? Based on whose interpretation? I say is it specifically aimed at the welfare of the Republic, not individuals. All the foundational documents point to a limited government with the power residing with the people or the States.

Our welfare clause is General not Limited or Common. Yet, the right wing claims there is a power delegated to "police the world" with alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror.

 

[danielpalos]

If the general welfare meant what the left claims it means then there would have been no need to follow it with specific things Congress could do since the statement general welfare would have covered everything.

Such an interpretation gives the federal government unlimited power, and renders meaningless the reserves of power to states.

This is why we cannot let people like Dan run our nation. He wants to give too much power to government and make us all slaves.

He is a commie.

we have a general government and a general welfare clause; coincidence or conspiracy?

Incorrect. We have a limited government with a very specific role.

The general welfare refers to the health of the Republic, not to any single citizen.

why do you believe that? private laws cover private citizens Individually.

Private laws? You'll have to define that. All laws in the US are public laws. There are no private laws.

Private law - Wikipedia

 

[danielpalos]

If the general welfare meant what the left claims it means then there would have been no need to follow it with specific things Congress could do since the statement general welfare would have covered everything.

Such an interpretation gives the federal government unlimited power, and renders meaningless the reserves of power to states.

This is why we cannot let people like Dan run our nation. He wants to give too much power to government and make us all slaves.

He is a commie.

we have a general government and a general welfare clause; coincidence or conspiracy?

Incorrect. We have a limited government with a very specific role.

The general welfare refers to the health of the Republic, not to any single citizen.

The people are the republic so you are incorrect.

He's absolutely correct..."GENERAL WELFARE" of the BODY of the Republic....Meaning tax revenues spent must benefit the whole body. Simple shit.

it is "why we have alleged Wars on crime, drugs, poverty, and terror."

 

[rightwinger]

If the general welfare meant what the left claims it means then there would have been no need to follow it with specific things Congress could do since the statement general welfare would have covered everything.

Such an interpretation gives the federal government unlimited power, and renders meaningless the reserves of power to states.

This is why we cannot let people like Dan run our nation. He wants to give too much power to government and make us all slaves.

He is a commie.

we have a general government and a general welfare clause; coincidence or conspiracy?

Incorrect. We have a limited government with a very specific role.

The general welfare refers to the health of the Republic, not to any single citizen.

The people are the republic so you are incorrect.

He's absolutely correct..."GENERAL WELFARE" of the BODY of the Republic....Meaning tax revenues spent must benefit the whole body. Simple shit.

Everyone cannot benefit equally
It doesn’t work like that

 

[Gdjjr]

I didn't take the time to read through all the comments- but to the OT, this is similar to the 2nd amendment argument, where it is clearly stated in simple English; shall not be infringed- however, that statement is in the Bill of Rights demonstrative of what lines cannot be crossed- in the OT it requires the same common knowledge of using simple English- capitalizing a word in mid-sentence makes it a noun- a noun is a person, place or thing, not an action.

 

[dblack]

we have a general government and a general welfare clause; coincidence or conspiracy?

Incorrect. We have a limited government with a very specific role.

The general welfare refers to the health of the Republic, not to any single citizen.

why do you believe that? private laws cover private citizens Individually.

Private laws? You'll have to define that. All laws in the US are public laws. There are no private laws.

Good luck with that.

Can you name one of these 'private' laws, and what or who passed such a law that it is binding on me?

I meant "good luck" trying to get daniel to define his cryptic nonsense. He's just trolling.

 

[danielpalos]

Those of the Opposing View, troll. I have valid arguments.