Zone1 What has to happen for a person to be saved?

[Cougarbear]

Believe God then-Matt 3:17

Yep, The Father, Elohim, said to the people, this is my beloved Son, Jesus Christ (Jehovah), here or listen to him. Same thing was said to Joseph Smith in the sacred Grove in New York in 1820. Joseph Smith had a greater vision. He saw the Father and Son together. He learned about what has confused Christians for centuries, the make up of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost and who they are by name. The restoration had started with clearing this up.

 

[kjw47]

Yep, The Father, Elohim, said to the people, this is my beloved Son, Jesus Christ (Jehovah), here or listen to him. Same thing was said to Joseph Smith in the sacred Grove in New York in 1820. Joseph Smith had a greater vision. He saw the Father and Son together. He learned about what has confused Christians for centuries, the make up of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost and who they are by name. The restoration had started with clearing this up.

Elijah translates-Elohim is Jehovah.--Jesus is not either.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Saved from what?

 

[Cougarbear]

Elijah translates-Elohim is Jehovah.--Jesus is not either.

No it doesn't. You made that up. Yes, Jesus Christ is the Word who is a God. But not Father God. The word was God and the word was with God. Elijah just means the Lord God is Jehovah but not God the Father.

 

[luiza]

Elijah translates-Elohim is Jehovah.--Jesus is not either.

Elohim are the non terrestrials whom Moses thought was a burning bush .

 

[kjw47]

No it doesn't. You made that up. Yes, Jesus Christ is the Word who is a God. But not Father God. The word was God and the word was with God. Elijah just means the Lord God is Jehovah but not God the Father.

You must be dense-- EL=Elohim--Jah=Jehovah

 

[kjw47]

Elohim are the non terrestrials whom Moses thought was a burning bush .

Elohim is a Hebrew word which means-The supreme one for the true living God.

 

[Cougarbear]

You must be dense-- EL=Elohim--Jah=Jehovah

You have no ability for cognitive reasoning...It's why you just keep repeating the crap your false prophet scholars tell you.

 

[MarathonMike]

It says those who aren’t baptized by water will not enter the kingdom of heaven. Fool is a warning and the Bible says warn your neighbor. You’ve been warned.

Unless you have one of those "vicarious Baptisms" which I assume means another live person can have a Baptism on your behalf if you are dead.

 

[Cougarbear]

Elohim is a Hebrew word which means-The supreme one for the true living God.

Nope. Elohim is a Hebrew NAME for the one true living God the Father.

 

[Cougarbear]

Unless you have one of those "vicarious Baptisms" which I assume means another live person can have a Baptism on your behalf if you are dead.

Baptism is an earthly ordinance that can only be done on earth. So, because the Lord went to those who have died and preached to them, set up a missionary core, he established a way to also have those spirits of the dead receive the ordinance of Baptism so that God's judgments are righteous and fair.

 

[initforme]

Accept Christ as ones savior, serve the poor and lowest among us, and don't become wealthy.

 

[kjw47]

You have no ability for cognitive reasoning...It's why you just keep repeating the crap your false prophet scholars tell you.

sad. when Jehovah shows the world.

 

[kjw47]

Nope. Elohim is a Hebrew NAME for the one true living God the Father.

Wow, the darkness owns you. You have a computer LOOK IT UP. It is a Hebrew word, it is NOT a name.

 

[MarathonMike]

Baptism is an earthly ordinance that can only be done on earth. So, because the Lord went to those who have died and preached to them, set up a missionary core, he established a way to also have those spirits of the dead receive the ordinance of Baptism so that God's judgments are righteous and fair.

You continue to fail to define EXACTLY WHAT a Vicarious Baptism is. So I am assuming that it means a person can die without being saved via Baptism and STILL BE SAVED by someone having a Baptism "vicariously" on the dead person's behalf. Is that correct on not?

 

[Cougarbear]

Wow, the darkness owns you. You have a computer LOOK IT UP. It is a Hebrew word, it is NOT a name.

A “name” is a “word.” Uneducated for sure!

 

[Cougarbear]

You continue to fail to define EXACTLY WHAT a Vicarious Baptism is. So I am assuming that it means a person can die without being saved via Baptism and STILL BE SAVED by someone having a Baptism "vicariously" on the dead person's behalf. Is that correct on not?

Mostly. However, it may or may not give eternal life in the Celestial Kingdom. Salvation and Exaltation are not the same thing. Baptism isn’t necessarily for salvation. Salvation alone is Terrestrial and Telestial glory and is part of heaven. But Celestial glory is greater and is part of Eternal life and glory which requires baptism. We baptize for the dead for everyone and let God do the judging which glory/kingdom a person ends up in in the resurrection.

 

[MarathonMike]

Mostly. However, it may or may not give eternal life in the Celestial Kingdom. Salvation and Exaltation are not the same thing. Baptism isn’t necessarily for salvation. Salvation alone is Terrestrial and Telestial glory and is part of heaven. But Celestial glory is greater and is part of Eternal life and glory which requires baptism. We baptize for the dead for everyone and let God do the judging which glory/kingdom a person ends up in in the resurrection.

Yeah whatever.

 

[Cougarbear]

Yeah whatever.

All biblical

 

[BreezeWood]

All biblical

that's your problem - remove your book of forgeries and fallacies and you will have even less than you have now ... which is nothing for both ... 0-0 = 0

the heavenly religion of antiquity to acquire judgement for admission to the everlasting is only 6 words in length - the triumph of good vs evil - no language barrier or printed copy necessary.