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Why wasn't it appealed, dingbat?So, no appeal by the GOP side? I'll go with our courts, not your lying BS propagandaSo it is not Democrats but the courts, super duper. And no it is not a conspiracy LOL.Judge Orders Release of Immigrant Kids from ICE Detention Centers
Amazing what you can learn when you're not wasting time trying to find validation for your butthurt.
It never ceases to amaze me that you get dumber with every post. You'd think I'd be used to it by now.
You think that judge just pulled this out of her ass, moron? She was ruling on a case, brought by leftist organizations, and referring to another case, ALSO brought by leftist organizations. And at the time, every leftist commentator in the country was cheering for the decision, which you NOW consider the height of cruelty.
The original Flores settlement, insisting that unaccompanies minors who crossed the border could not be detained, was brought by the Center for Human Rights and Constitutional Law and the National Center for Youth Law, aided and abetted by the ACLU of Southern California. In 2015, those same people - with the addition of some other left-leaning groups - got the Flores settlement extended to accompanied minors, again to the cheering of leftists everywhere.
Oh, also, Judge Dolly Gee, from that article? Obama appointee in the Central District of California. What are the odds she's a rock-ribbed Republican?
"Appeal by the GOP side"? No idea what you're babbling about. The case was brought against the government.
He tried to bring in more and the GOP blocked him d u h..After 8 years of Obama and that question is on your lips????? ask him...Their problem was caused by us--actually you. Why don't we help them? Why are Republicans so terrified of of refugees?
So now you know what I was babbling about, dingbat. So you were wrong twice as always, Super Dupe.Why wasn't it appealed, dingbat?So, no appeal by the GOP side? I'll go with our courts, not your lying BS propagandaSo it is not Democrats but the courts, super duper. And no it is not a conspiracy LOL.
It never ceases to amaze me that you get dumber with every post. You'd think I'd be used to it by now.
You think that judge just pulled this out of her ass, moron? She was ruling on a case, brought by leftist organizations, and referring to another case, ALSO brought by leftist organizations. And at the time, every leftist commentator in the country was cheering for the decision, which you NOW consider the height of cruelty.
The original Flores settlement, insisting that unaccompanies minors who crossed the border could not be detained, was brought by the Center for Human Rights and Constitutional Law and the National Center for Youth Law, aided and abetted by the ACLU of Southern California. In 2015, those same people - with the addition of some other left-leaning groups - got the Flores settlement extended to accompanied minors, again to the cheering of leftists everywhere.
Oh, also, Judge Dolly Gee, from that article? Obama appointee in the Central District of California. What are the odds she's a rock-ribbed Republican?
"Appeal by the GOP side"? No idea what you're babbling about. The case was brought against the government.
Oh, good grief. You do know that your Internet connection can do more than look up porn, right?
The government DID appeal the original Flores class action lawsuit, all the way to the Supreme Court at one point, but they eventually reached a settlement, which is why it's called the "Flores SETTLEMENT".
The 2015 decision by Judge Gee of the California District Court was ALSO appealed to the Ninth Circuit Court in 2016.
That's not how you help them lib....you help them by having the balls to place tough sanctions on their home nations until the bullshit stops...do you know in Guatemala you can not open a small business unless you pay the crooked government the equivalent of $25,000 its a way to keep the haves in control...that one change could rearrange that whole nation...He tried to bring in more and the GOP blocked him d u h..
He also had a hiatus and made the vetting extreme which none of you dupes know about...
Illegal squatters then?Why didnt your ancesters stay and improve the country the fled from? Oh ya...double standards eh?Jeff Sessions and Donald Trump:
"If you are smuggling a child then we will prosecute you, and that child will be separated from you as required by law," Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Monday at a law enforcement conference in Scottsdale, Arizona. "If you don't like that, then don't smuggle children over our border."
Administration officials explained that the goal of the program is 100 percent prosecution of all who enter the U.S. illegally. When adults are prosecuted and jailed, their children will be separated from them, just as would happen for a U.S. citizen convicted and jailed.
Anguish at Southwest border as more immigrant children are separated from parents
The Trump administration's willingness to take children from their parents has raised concerns about how far authorities should go to stem unauthorized border crossings and what human cost is acceptable in the name of border security and immigration control.
"There is something terrible happening here that Americans would not support if they understood it," said F. Scott McCown, director of the Children’s Rights Clinic at the University of Texas at Austin School of Law.
I don't care how much you hate illegal immigrants this is EVIL. You are punishing the children. It's abhorrant and wrong and inexcusable. I hope they rot in hell for this. 700 children so far have been seperated from the only family they know and lost to our often incompetent and mismanaged child care system. I fail to see how any parent could support actions like these.
When parents are held for prosecution, their children are turned over to the Office of Refugee Resettlement, part of the Department of Health and Human Services. The children are then designated as "unaccompanied minors," and the government tries to connect them to family members who are already in the U.S. Until then, children wait in shelters or are sent to federally contracted foster homes, often without parents being told exactly where they are, immigration advocates said.
It may soon become even more difficult to place children with relatives. The Department of Homeland Security is proposing immigration checks be done on all people in a household who may take in these "unaccompanied" children, which means relatives who are undocumented may be less likely to come forward.
In the meantime, space in shelters and foster homes is limited; The Washington Post reported the administration plans to open facilities at military bases to house some of the separated children.
How high is the human cost left behind in the countries they flee from?...Why not work and fight to improve the conditions in Central and South America? Why not ease the pain of corruption in their birth place?...why not stop being a stop gab relief valve enabling corruption to continue from wens the migrants have fled?
Compassion comes with a price for the very ones we are compassionate over....but I guess you sleep well after patting yourself on the back....like a good liberal.....
I don't know about Rambunctious, but MY ancestors' country had acquired this neat new territory that it wanted colonized.
So they weren't actually leaving their country at all, except in a strict geographic sense.
They make an easy scapegoat to rally people around. It is nothing new. They are repeating history.Their problem was caused by us--actually you. Why don't we help them? Why are Republicans so terrified of of refugees?Jeff Sessions and Donald Trump:
"If you are smuggling a child then we will prosecute you, and that child will be separated from you as required by law," Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Monday at a law enforcement conference in Scottsdale, Arizona. "If you don't like that, then don't smuggle children over our border."
Administration officials explained that the goal of the program is 100 percent prosecution of all who enter the U.S. illegally. When adults are prosecuted and jailed, their children will be separated from them, just as would happen for a U.S. citizen convicted and jailed.
Anguish at Southwest border as more immigrant children are separated from parents
The Trump administration's willingness to take children from their parents has raised concerns about how far authorities should go to stem unauthorized border crossings and what human cost is acceptable in the name of border security and immigration control.
"There is something terrible happening here that Americans would not support if they understood it," said F. Scott McCown, director of the Children’s Rights Clinic at the University of Texas at Austin School of Law.
I don't care how much you hate illegal immigrants this is EVIL. You are punishing the children. It's abhorrant and wrong and inexcusable. I hope they rot in hell for this. 700 children so far have been seperated from the only family they know and lost to our often incompetent and mismanaged child care system. I fail to see how any parent could support actions like these.
When parents are held for prosecution, their children are turned over to the Office of Refugee Resettlement, part of the Department of Health and Human Services. The children are then designated as "unaccompanied minors," and the government tries to connect them to family members who are already in the U.S. Until then, children wait in shelters or are sent to federally contracted foster homes, often without parents being told exactly where they are, immigration advocates said.
It may soon become even more difficult to place children with relatives. The Department of Homeland Security is proposing immigration checks be done on all people in a household who may take in these "unaccompanied" children, which means relatives who are undocumented may be less likely to come forward.
In the meantime, space in shelters and foster homes is limited; The Washington Post reported the administration plans to open facilities at military bases to house some of the separated children.
How high is the human cost left behind in the countries they flee from?...Why not work and fight to improve the conditions in Central and South America? Why not ease the pain of corruption in their birth place?...why not stop being a stop gab relief valve enabling corruption to continue from wens the migrants have fled?
Compassion comes with a price for the very ones we are compassionate over....but I guess you sleep well after patting yourself on the back....like a good liberal.....
They and blacks are natural Republicans but they know the GOP is full of racists and bigots. Tough luck.Although there may be statistics that show certain groups vote "majority Democrat" the hope is that the parties will evolve to represent everyone for a more unified nation. The USA does not need to be torn apart from ongoing internal strife.
Not really because that's not what the Democrats want. They want very little opposition and the ability to control the entire country.
This is why they fought Kate's Law, the border, sanctuary cities. Their plot is to get as many of these illegals living in the country as possible, and if they ever gain enough power again, grant blanket citizenship. With citizenship comes the right to vote, and they know who these people will vote for.
It is reported that 1 out of 4 AMERICAN kids are Hispanic. In the future, how do you think they'll vote?
It is perplexing. They haven't won a popular vote since 2004 and haven't won a popular vote when they were not the incumbent since 1988. As Hispanic immigrants move from the South up into the northern reaches of the country (Where "we don't get many Hispanics" as the INS guy put it before he detained two women in Montana if memory serves), the carefully gerrymandered districts become vulnerable.
Whether the Democrats can hold on to the Hispanic vote is another question all together--nobody snatches defeat from the jaws of victory like a DEM. But the GOP is not doing itself any favors.
In 2016, Obama deported 240,000. In 2017, Trump deported 226,000. At the rate we're deporting, it would take 53 years to deport all 12 million undocumented immigrants and that assumes we have no new arrivals.What about the option to throw the children in jail with the parents? Family unification. No more tears.
Actually if we just throw them all out, the families could stay together that way.
Most of Trump deportations have come near the boarder. As we move away from the border the story gets even worse. 80% of the deportations have come from within 30 miles of the boarder. These are the easy ones to deport because most of them are new arrivals and are not overstaying visas so the president can use expedited deportation. However, most of the undocumented immigrants in the country are deeper into the interior. Many are in sanctuary cities where there is less cooperation with ICE. Most of them don't qualify for expedited removal.
Unless we change the law, the 4 to 6 million that overstayed their visas have to be handled in immigration court where each person get's a hearing and they have the right to have their case reviewed by a panel of judges. Many also have legal council, unlike expedite removal. Currently it is taking months to years to deport these people.
The bottom line is what we are doing is not working and you have a president that is zealously deporting everyone he can as fast as he can. What do you think will happen when a democrat is in the white house or congress is controlled by democrats where unlike Trump they would be very concerned with the rights and welfare of the detainees?
We need to look at a plan that at lease has a chance of working because what we are doing now will never work.
University of Rochester 1990 plus I read history all the time...If you have a Masters in anything, then I am the Pope.
Why did you lose money under Obama? Actually because the GOP blocked lower taxes for you and benefits and services. Keep an eye out on your state and local taxes and fees which kill the non-rich, because federal aid just went down. And of course your tax cuts end in 5 years while the the richest keep them forever. Don't worry about the continuing ruin of the middle class and the working class and the infrastructure of the country... Tariffs will hit you too now. Enjoy!If you make less than$250,000 and vote GOP, you are a brainwashed idiot. In fact, if you vote for the lying thieving GOP anyway, ditto.Typical brainwashed response LOL so you believe Democrats are for open borders, super duper?
Yes I do. You (as a leftist) fail to look for the man behind the curtain.
The goal of the left is to wipe out white people; not in a genocidal way, but in a political way.
Every other group of people outside of whites vote a majority Democrat. The Asians vote a majority Democrat, the middle-east people vote a majority Democrat, the Hispanics vote a majority Democrat, the Jewish vote a majority Democrat, the blacks...........forget about it.
Once they are able to make whites a minority in this country for the first time, they will have access to turn our country into a single-party government forever.
So if you are white and vote Democrat, you are about the dumbest MF in the country, because you are voting for a party that's trying to wipe YOU out for power.
Under DumBama I lost money--a lot of money. Now I'm not losing that money anymore, and gaining more money in my paycheck every two weeks. And according to my tax preparer, I"m in for a windfall for my 2018 tax returns thanks to Trump.
So who's the brainwashed idiot now?
From what I have heard about the garden center bust there were was a fair amt. of identity theft... deceased individuals SS#'s and fake documents (at least some were paying taxes for dead people) lol...In 2016, Obama deported 240,000. In 2017, Trump deported 226,000. At the rate we're deporting, it would take 53 years to deport all 12 million undocumented immigrants and that assumes we have no new arrivals.What about the option to throw the children in jail with the parents? Family unification. No more tears.
Actually if we just throw them all out, the families could stay together that way.
Most of Trump deportations have come near the boarder. As we move away from the border the story gets even worse. 80% of the deportations have come from within 30 miles of the boarder. These are the easy ones to deport because most of them are new arrivals and are not overstaying visas so the president can use expedited deportation. However, most of the undocumented immigrants in the country are deeper into the interior. Many are in sanctuary cities where there is less cooperation with ICE. Most of them don't qualify for expedited removal.
Unless we change the law, the 4 to 6 million that overstayed their visas have to be handled in immigration court where each person get's a hearing and they have the right to have their case reviewed by a panel of judges. Many also have legal council, unlike expedite removal. Currently it is taking months to years to deport these people.
The bottom line is what we are doing is not working and you have a president that is zealously deporting everyone he can as fast as he can. What do you think will happen when a democrat is in the white house or congress is controlled by democrats where unlike Trump they would be very concerned with the rights and welfare of the detainees?
We need to look at a plan that at lease has a chance of working because what we are doing now will never work.
So what would work, just letting them all stay? That's called surrendering.
Trump hired many more deportation judges and plans on hiring more in the future. You have to show these people who are here and ones willing to try and sneak in that we mean business. Why do you suppose border crossings are so low since Trump took over?
In Sandusky, Ohio, home of Cedar Point, they just did a raid on a flower and gardens outlet. They busted over 130 illegals. Of course, the owner claims he had no idea these people were illegal, but even though they (to my knowledge) were not criminals, it sends a message to other illegals in this area. GTF out!
It's not just the illegals that we are fighting, it's the Democrat party and their commie judges who are trying to stop us from making advancements. The quicker we can wipe out liberalism, the faster we can solve this problem.
From what I have heard about the garden center bust there were was a fair amt. of identity theft... deceased individuals SS#'s and fake documents (at least some were paying taxes for dead people) lol...In 2016, Obama deported 240,000. In 2017, Trump deported 226,000. At the rate we're deporting, it would take 53 years to deport all 12 million undocumented immigrants and that assumes we have no new arrivals.What about the option to throw the children in jail with the parents? Family unification. No more tears.
Actually if we just throw them all out, the families could stay together that way.
Most of Trump deportations have come near the boarder. As we move away from the border the story gets even worse. 80% of the deportations have come from within 30 miles of the boarder. These are the easy ones to deport because most of them are new arrivals and are not overstaying visas so the president can use expedited deportation. However, most of the undocumented immigrants in the country are deeper into the interior. Many are in sanctuary cities where there is less cooperation with ICE. Most of them don't qualify for expedited removal.
Unless we change the law, the 4 to 6 million that overstayed their visas have to be handled in immigration court where each person get's a hearing and they have the right to have their case reviewed by a panel of judges. Many also have legal council, unlike expedite removal. Currently it is taking months to years to deport these people.
The bottom line is what we are doing is not working and you have a president that is zealously deporting everyone he can as fast as he can. What do you think will happen when a democrat is in the white house or congress is controlled by democrats where unlike Trump they would be very concerned with the rights and welfare of the detainees?
We need to look at a plan that at lease has a chance of working because what we are doing now will never work.
So what would work, just letting them all stay? That's called surrendering.
Trump hired many more deportation judges and plans on hiring more in the future. You have to show these people who are here and ones willing to try and sneak in that we mean business. Why do you suppose border crossings are so low since Trump took over?
In Sandusky, Ohio, home of Cedar Point, they just did a raid on a flower and gardens outlet. They busted over 130 illegals. Of course, the owner claims he had no idea these people were illegal, but even though they (to my knowledge) were not criminals, it sends a message to other illegals in this area. GTF out!
It's not just the illegals that we are fighting, it's the Democrat party and their commie judges who are trying to stop us from making advancements. The quicker we can wipe out liberalism, the faster we can solve this problem.
Curious, leftists like you have been confusing all three of those groups for the past couple of years.You have been brainwashed 2 confuse refugees and immigrants and terrorists for that matter...
They and blacks are natural Republicans but they know the GOP is full of racists and bigots. Tough luck.Although there may be statistics that show certain groups vote "majority Democrat" the hope is that the parties will evolve to represent everyone for a more unified nation. The USA does not need to be torn apart from ongoing internal strife.
Not really because that's not what the Democrats want. They want very little opposition and the ability to control the entire country.
This is why they fought Kate's Law, the border, sanctuary cities. Their plot is to get as many of these illegals living in the country as possible, and if they ever gain enough power again, grant blanket citizenship. With citizenship comes the right to vote, and they know who these people will vote for.
It is reported that 1 out of 4 AMERICAN kids are Hispanic. In the future, how do you think they'll vote?
It is perplexing. They haven't won a popular vote since 2004 and haven't won a popular vote when they were not the incumbent since 1988. As Hispanic immigrants move from the South up into the northern reaches of the country (Where "we don't get many Hispanics" as the INS guy put it before he detained two women in Montana if memory serves), the carefully gerrymandered districts become vulnerable.
Whether the Democrats can hold on to the Hispanic vote is another question all together--nobody snatches defeat from the jaws of victory like a DEM. But the GOP is not doing itself any favors.
So your suggestion is to just surrender.
Only libs would bitch about people having more income. Screw your cherry picked stats.Yes the unemployment rate continues to go down icaramba. I'm talking about 35 years of GOP give away to the rich and cuts for the rest. This is GOP rule at work."Continuing ruin of the middle class and the working class" ? HA HA HA. I told you guys that liberals are daf. Told'ja!Don't worry about the continuing ruin of the middle class and the working class and the infrastructure of the country... Tariffs will hit you too now. Enjoy!
Over the past 35 years the American dream has gradually disappeared. The process was slow, so most people didn’t notice. They just worked a few more hours, borrowed a little more and cut back on non-essentials. But looking at the numbers and comparing them over long time periods, it is obvious that things have changed drastically. Here are the details:
1. WORKERS PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.
Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.
But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):
1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%
A 13% drop since 1980
2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.
Share of National Income going to Top 10%:
1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%
An increase of 16% since Reagan.
3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.
The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.
1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)
A 12.3% drop after Reagan.
4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.
Household Debt as percentage of GDP:
1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%
A 45% increase after 1980.
5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.
Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:
1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%
A 5.6 times increase.
6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.
The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:
1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%
A 10% Decrease.
Links:
1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Research/PolicyDis/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = Clipboard01.jpg (image)
2 – http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/blog/09/04/27/CongratulationstoEmmanuelSaez/
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/uspersonalsaving_thumb.gif
3 = U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
4 = Federated Prudent Bear Fund (A): Overview
4 = The Fed - Financial Accounts of the United States - Z.1 - Current Release
5/6 = http://www.businessinsider.com/15-charts
Explain to me how a policy that confiscates 100% of the children makes that distinction?It's sad you can't distinguish between criminals who traffic humans back and forth across the border and legitimate refugees..or recognize the huge amount of suffering that is caused to those refugees by the people who smuggle other people...who you insist we protect..while whining that we try to protect the children they exploit and abuse at teh same time.Why didnt your ancesters stay and improve the country the fled from? Oh ya...double standards eh?Jeff Sessions and Donald Trump:
"If you are smuggling a child then we will prosecute you, and that child will be separated from you as required by law," Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Monday at a law enforcement conference in Scottsdale, Arizona. "If you don't like that, then don't smuggle children over our border."
Administration officials explained that the goal of the program is 100 percent prosecution of all who enter the U.S. illegally. When adults are prosecuted and jailed, their children will be separated from them, just as would happen for a U.S. citizen convicted and jailed.
Anguish at Southwest border as more immigrant children are separated from parents
The Trump administration's willingness to take children from their parents has raised concerns about how far authorities should go to stem unauthorized border crossings and what human cost is acceptable in the name of border security and immigration control.
"There is something terrible happening here that Americans would not support if they understood it," said F. Scott McCown, director of the Children’s Rights Clinic at the University of Texas at Austin School of Law.
I don't care how much you hate illegal immigrants this is EVIL. You are punishing the children. It's abhorrant and wrong and inexcusable. I hope they rot in hell for this. 700 children so far have been seperated from the only family they know and lost to our often incompetent and mismanaged child care system. I fail to see how any parent could support actions like these.
When parents are held for prosecution, their children are turned over to the Office of Refugee Resettlement, part of the Department of Health and Human Services. The children are then designated as "unaccompanied minors," and the government tries to connect them to family members who are already in the U.S. Until then, children wait in shelters or are sent to federally contracted foster homes, often without parents being told exactly where they are, immigration advocates said.
It may soon become even more difficult to place children with relatives. The Department of Homeland Security is proposing immigration checks be done on all people in a household who may take in these "unaccompanied" children, which means relatives who are undocumented may be less likely to come forward.
In the meantime, space in shelters and foster homes is limited; The Washington Post reported the administration plans to open facilities at military bases to house some of the separated children.
How high is the human cost left behind in the countries they flee from?...Why not work and fight to improve the conditions in Central and South America? Why not ease the pain of corruption in their birth place?...why not stop being a stop gab relief valve enabling corruption to continue from wens the migrants have fled?
Compassion comes with a price for the very ones we are compassionate over....but I guess you sleep well after patting yourself on the back....like a good liberal.....
And legitimate refugees.
They and blacks are natural Republicans but they know the GOP is full of racists and bigots. Tough luck.Not really because that's not what the Democrats want. They want very little opposition and the ability to control the entire country.
This is why they fought Kate's Law, the border, sanctuary cities. Their plot is to get as many of these illegals living in the country as possible, and if they ever gain enough power again, grant blanket citizenship. With citizenship comes the right to vote, and they know who these people will vote for.
It is reported that 1 out of 4 AMERICAN kids are Hispanic. In the future, how do you think they'll vote?
It is perplexing. They haven't won a popular vote since 2004 and haven't won a popular vote when they were not the incumbent since 1988. As Hispanic immigrants move from the South up into the northern reaches of the country (Where "we don't get many Hispanics" as the INS guy put it before he detained two women in Montana if memory serves), the carefully gerrymandered districts become vulnerable.
Whether the Democrats can hold on to the Hispanic vote is another question all together--nobody snatches defeat from the jaws of victory like a DEM. But the GOP is not doing itself any favors.
So your suggestion is to just surrender.
Perhaps not be a total prick
Don't do it. Save yourself.(Ponders whether he should jump back into this discussion or not)
