What if we aren't taking this as seriously as we should?

[kaz]

Trump may not be manipulated by Putin.

I cannot deny you picking that option, but I am personally completely convinced that that is the way it is.

Well, there you go then. It's settled

I'll worry about that after we spend a few years worry whether Obumma and Hillary weren't Russian assets for years first. I know for a fact that Russians have been screwing with America from AT LEAST the 1970s---- and if I know it, then that makes this whole russian scare thing a joke because others know it as well. A more likely scenario is that Russia and Soros run the whole show and the DNC and GOP are just two fronts giving a faux illusion of an actual choice. That's why all the angst over Trump---- he was an unseen, unexpected fluke that got in that WASN'T part of the master plan!

It is ideal in politics to be a few steps ahead - not behind because you're too lazy to think.

Don't be trying to change the topic from Russian corruption to why the DNC keeps losing election after election.

Is there a difference between those subjects?

the Dems have won the popular vote (or a plurality with three parties) in 6 of the last 7 elections.

You keep thinking you're in England and keep going after the popular vote. The Right will stick to actually winning elections.

BTW-- -- -- -- if your SO SURE you got the MAJORITY in America, then institute Voter ID to make sure every vote is legal, then let's see what you win!

Actually the uk has no vote for PM. The leader of the majority party is PM

 

[kaz]

If the right were racists, WOULDN'T we just say so? I mean, surely you don't think the threat of YOUR disapproval is a deterrent?

Strange Brew: The Right's Pathetic Denial of Racism

The left's pathetic denial of mental retardation ...

 

[nat4900]

Must have been pretty nice for Hillary to have the DOJ and the FBI in her back pocket, huh?
The swamp is full of scum.

True.......lol

 

[nat4900]

Trump may very well see the world as a place properly ruled by the most powerful.

An Ayn Rand's follower????

 

[nat4900]

Sorry to disappoint, but the vast majority of us most certainly were not involved in enabling Putin get access to 20% of the Uranium Supply. It did not Take A Village, it just took the incredibly corrupt Clinton Crime Family Syndicate and their comrades in the Obabble Admi

One MORE time for Trumpo ass kissing fuck heads like Bodicka.....lol


DID Russia give millions to the Clinton Foundation?....Yes or No?

The Clinton Foundation received $145 million in pledges and donations from original investors in Uranium One, PRIOR to its sale to Rosatom.

Most of the $145 million in Clinton Foundation donations came from one person, a major Uranium One investor named Frank Giustra. Mr. Giustra has said that he sold all his shares in Uranium One about 1-1/2 years before Mrs. Clinton became secretary of State – and three years before Rosatom and its Russian cash came calling.

There is no direct evidence of a quid pro quo between Clinton and Uranium One backers. As one of nine members of a US committee weighing the deal, it was not within Clinton’s power to approve the deal on her own. There is no evidence Clinton was even informed of the prospective deal while she was secretary of State. While cabinet heads make up the committee, that is a nominal position. As often the case in government, subordinates go to the meetings and do the work.

What's the real story behind Hillary Clinton, Russia, and uranium ...

https://www.csmonitor.com/.../What-s-the-real-story-behind-Hillary-Clinton-Russia-..

 

[bendog]

Seriously, have any if you looked at this not as a series of discreet events, but as a whole pattern?

An interesting and compelling look from NY Magazine
What If Trump Has Been a Russian Asset Since 1987?

A little snip from the opening. Read the rest at the link and discuss.

The unfolding of the Russia scandal has been like walking into a dark cavern. Every step reveals that the cave runs deeper than we thought, and after each one, as we wonder how far it goes, our imaginations are circumscribed by the steps we have already taken. The cavern might go just a little farther, we presume, but probably not much farther. And since trying to discern the size and shape of the scandal is an exercise in uncertainty, we focus our attention on the most likely outcome, which is that the story goes a little deeper than what we have already discovered. Say, that Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort told their candidate about the meeting they held at Trump Tower with a Russian lawyer after they were promised dirt on Hillary Clinton; and that Trump and Kushner have some shady Russian investments; and that some of Trump’s advisers made some promises about lifting sanctions.

But what if that’s wrong? What if we’re still standing closer to the mouth of the cave than the end?

The media has treated the notion that Russia has personally compromised the president of the United States as something close to a kook theory. A minority of analysts, mostly but not exclusively on the right, have promoted aggressively exculpatory interpretations of the known facts, in which every suspicious piece of evidence turns out to have a surprisingly innocent explanation. And it is possible, though unlikely, that every trail between Trump Tower and the Kremlin extends no farther than its point of current visibility.

Its just a liberal rag op ed begging for this kabuki theater investigation to last forever and ever and ever and ever and ever.............

The world doesn't give a crap about the investigation.

I think some votes may be affected if evidence shows a compelling case of Trump actively seeking and getting Russian help.

But the dems have to win all the states they did last time and PA, Mich and Wisc. They have no hope for Fla barring some real game changer.

 

[bendog]

Trump may very well see the world as a place properly ruled by the most powerful.

An Ayn Rand's follower????

I don't think Rand saw that so much. I am not a fan though.

I don't have any conspiracy theory as to Trump the Tyrant, but I've never thought he had much respect for the notion of everyone's vote being equal to everyone else's.

 

[iceberg]

Neither one of you fools bothered to read the link, it's hundreds of words and you dismissed it in seconds.

they saw the source.

nothing else was really needed.

 

[nat4900]

I don't think Rand saw that so much. I am not a fan though.

I don't have any conspiracy theory as to Trump the Tyrant, but I've never thought he had much respect for the notion of everyone's vote being equal to everyone else's.

Roy Cohn, an historical villain famous for his ruthlessness, blood-lust, and underhandedness. Though he died in 1986 from complications of AIDS, the world has arguably never felt his influence more strongly than today: he was Donald Trump’s mentor.

Cohn was an admirer of Ayn Rand's "supremacy" theory of who should is better suited to be a leader........Pretty much along the line of Nietzsche's own supremacy theory which gave birth to Nazism.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Neither one of you fools bothered to read the link, it's hundreds of words and you dismissed it in seconds.

I did read it, I saw it on real clear politics, it is a laughable fantasy. You guys laughed at Trump, but now you cant get rid of him. You guys don't focus on ideas, you just call someone a racist and expect them to resign and wander off into the sunset. Trump said fuck no, I'm no racist and you guys don't know how to handle it. You've never had to prove you opponents were racist and now that Trump requires proof, you have some of the dumbest responses.

 

[nat4900]

Trump said fuck no, I'm no racist and you guys don't know how to handle it. You've never had to prove you opponents were racist and now that Trump requires proof, you have some of the dumbest responses.

Just as long as blacks, browns, Asians and Native Americans KNOW that the scumbag,Trump is a racist.......It makes no difference if Trump ass lickers "defend" his blatant racism................LOL

Racism and Donald Trump: a common thread throughout his career ...

Trump branded racist over 'shit-hole' slur

Young voters will provide a counterweight to Trump's racism.
.
Donald Trump is a racist.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Seriously, have any if you looked at this not as a series of discreet events, but as a whole pattern?

An interesting and compelling look from NY Magazine
What If Trump Has Been a Russian Asset Since 1987?

A little snip from the opening. Read the rest at the link and discuss.

The unfolding of the Russia scandal has been like walking into a dark cavern. Every step reveals that the cave runs deeper than we thought, and after each one, as we wonder how far it goes, our imaginations are circumscribed by the steps we have already taken. The cavern might go just a little farther, we presume, but probably not much farther. And since trying to discern the size and shape of the scandal is an exercise in uncertainty, we focus our attention on the most likely outcome, which is that the story goes a little deeper than what we have already discovered. Say, that Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort told their candidate about the meeting they held at Trump Tower with a Russian lawyer after they were promised dirt on Hillary Clinton; and that Trump and Kushner have some shady Russian investments; and that some of Trump’s advisers made some promises about lifting sanctions.

But what if that’s wrong? What if we’re still standing closer to the mouth of the cave than the end?

The media has treated the notion that Russia has personally compromised the president of the United States as something close to a kook theory. A minority of analysts, mostly but not exclusively on the right, have promoted aggressively exculpatory interpretations of the known facts, in which every suspicious piece of evidence turns out to have a surprisingly innocent explanation. And it is possible, though unlikely, that every trail between Trump Tower and the Kremlin extends no farther than its point of current visibility.

ok and obama was born in Kenya

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Trump said fuck no, I'm no racist and you guys don't know how to handle it. You've never had to prove you opponents were racist and now that Trump requires proof, you have some of the dumbest responses.

Just as long as blacks, browns, Asians and Native Americans KNOW that the scumbag,Trump is a racist.......It makes no difference if Trump ass lickers "defend" his blatant racism................LOL

Racism and Donald Trump: a common thread throughout his career ...

Trump branded racist over 'shit-hole' slur

Young voters will provide a counterweight to Trump's racism.
.
Donald Trump is a racist.

A racist? what exactly has he done to be a racist?

 

[nat4900]

A racist? what exactly has he done to be a racist?

Nothing....nothing.....Put your head right back up Trump's ass....Its safer for you there.

Is Donald Trump Racist? Here's what the record shows

 

[Flopper]

Neither one of you fools bothered to read the link, it's hundreds of words and you dismissed it in seconds.

I did read it, I saw it on real clear politics, it is a laughable fantasy. You guys laughed at Trump, but now you cant get rid of him. You guys don't focus on ideas, you just call someone a racist and expect them to resign and wander off into the sunset. Trump said fuck no, I'm no racist and you guys don't know how to handle it. You've never had to prove you opponents were racist and now that Trump requires proof, you have some of the dumbest responses.

Since Race is an extremely elastic concept which includes the entire human "race", segments of it, ethnicity, biases based on sex, sexual preference, religion, political views, and just plain bias on just about any subject, you have to define exactly what you mean by "racist" otherwise the term just means you're really a bad guy.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Trump said fuck no, I'm no racist and you guys don't know how to handle it. You've never had to prove you opponents were racist and now that Trump requires proof, you have some of the dumbest responses.

Just as long as blacks, browns, Asians and Native Americans KNOW that the scumbag,Trump is a racist.......It makes no difference if Trump ass lickers "defend" his blatant racism................LOL

Racism and Donald Trump: a common thread throughout his career ...

Trump branded racist over 'shit-hole' slur

Young voters will provide a counterweight to Trump's racism.
.
Donald Trump is a racist.

Ok so according to your articles he's racist for these things

1)Calling countries shit holes

a)Which countries that he called shit holes, are not shit holes?
2)Casinos
a)Because you have an unnamed source saying Trump wanted Jews couting his money and not blacks?
What the fuck is this? it's heresay and even IF TRUE, it's him stereotyping Jews, but not racist.....
3) Central Park 5
a) He thought 5 blacks raped a women in central park, like the news was presenting? What is racist about this?
There were no riots and no one died unlike your boy Al Sharpton...a true racist
4)Birtth Certificate
a)Another pile of shit, many people believed it, based again on a lack of vetting Obama (Palin got way more attention of the press than he ever did ) and people had questions, but Trump did say it was over
5)Muslim Ban
a)He banned the countries Obama wanted to
6)Mexicans are rapists
a)He never said all Mexicans were, but he does want to get rid of the criminals

 

[bigrebnc1775]

A racist? what exactly has he done to be a racist?

Nothing....nothing.....Put your head right back up Trump's ass....Its safer for you there.

Is Donald Trump Racist? Here's what the record shows

You actually think that proves he's a racist? lol, the democrat party as now become a laughing stock and should be mocked.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Neither one of you fools bothered to read the link, it's hundreds of words and you dismissed it in seconds.

I did read it, I saw it on real clear politics, it is a laughable fantasy. You guys laughed at Trump, but now you cant get rid of him. You guys don't focus on ideas, you just call someone a racist and expect them to resign and wander off into the sunset. Trump said fuck no, I'm no racist and you guys don't know how to handle it. You've never had to prove you opponents were racist and now that Trump requires proof, you have some of the dumbest responses.

Since Race is an extremely elastic concept for many people which includes the entire human "race", segments of it, ethnicity, biases based on sex, sexual preference, religion, political views, and just plain bias on just about any subject, you have to define exactly what you mean by "racist" otherwise the term just means you're really a bad guy.

No the term SHOULD mean someone who thinks one race is superior to another and who acts on it (violence, denial of service, ect).
What it is now, is you don't agree with me, you are a racist.
I don't believe in affirmative action because I don't think it's necessary nor helpful nowadays. To the left because I oppose racism (promoting one group above another), I am racist.....

So I don't believe jokes are racist.....get a sense of humor
I don't believe saying an epithet is racist.....people get mad and say stuff..whatever
Denying service because someone is black or white or Asian, is racist, not cool
promoting someone or giving someone a job based on color is racist.....which is why I don't like affirmative action

 

[Cecilie1200]

If the right were racists, WOULDN'T we just say so? I mean, surely you don't think the threat of YOUR disapproval is a deterrent?

Strange Brew: The Right's Pathetic Denial of Racism

It doesn't make it any more true when other leftists say it than it does when you do.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Seriously, have any if you looked at this not as a series of discreet events, but as a whole pattern?

An interesting and compelling look from NY Magazine
What If Trump Has Been a Russian Asset Since 1987?

A little snip from the opening. Read the rest at the link and discuss.

The unfolding of the Russia scandal has been like walking into a dark cavern. Every step reveals that the cave runs deeper than we thought, and after each one, as we wonder how far it goes, our imaginations are circumscribed by the steps we have already taken. The cavern might go just a little farther, we presume, but probably not much farther. And since trying to discern the size and shape of the scandal is an exercise in uncertainty, we focus our attention on the most likely outcome, which is that the story goes a little deeper than what we have already discovered. Say, that Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort told their candidate about the meeting they held at Trump Tower with a Russian lawyer after they were promised dirt on Hillary Clinton; and that Trump and Kushner have some shady Russian investments; and that some of Trump’s advisers made some promises about lifting sanctions.

But what if that’s wrong? What if we’re still standing closer to the mouth of the cave than the end?

The media has treated the notion that Russia has personally compromised the president of the United States as something close to a kook theory. A minority of analysts, mostly but not exclusively on the right, have promoted aggressively exculpatory interpretations of the known facts, in which every suspicious piece of evidence turns out to have a surprisingly innocent explanation. And it is possible, though unlikely, that every trail between Trump Tower and the Kremlin extends no farther than its point of current visibility.

Its just a liberal rag op ed begging for this kabuki theater investigation to last forever and ever and ever and ever and ever.............

The world doesn't give a crap about the investigation.

I think some votes may be affected if evidence shows a compelling case of Trump actively seeking and getting Russian help.

But the dems have to win all the states they did last time and PA, Mich and Wisc. They have no hope for Fla barring some real game changer.

"I think the world would be very different if unicorns appeared and shit glittery rainbows everywhere."

No one's seen the slightest hint of a "compelling case" so far, which makes it very doubtful one exists. I have trouble picturing Donald Trump as such a master of deception that he'd be able to hide it this long.