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Things used to happen like this twenty, thirty, or forty years ago.
It just wasn't in the media, wasn't reported, wasn't talked about...because people wanted to stay out of other people's business even more so.
This stuff is happening as we write...
5 Children Die A Day from Abuse. National Child Abuse Statistics | Childhelp
Every 13 seconds a child is abused. » Child Abuse Stats
But to answer my own question since no one else would tackle it: I love questions that force either hyperbole or confusion, remove these people from society and how do you judge them? It is like our neighbors whose religion killed many of their children because Gawd was in control, not man, not medicine. How do you judge them? Blame their gawd but allow the kids to die? Interfere? What gives you that right? Any guesses?
So what do you judge them on, religion, law, what exactly? You only judge them because you live in a society governed by politics aka government. If we lived in a jungle how would we judge them? Why would we care. Could we say they can do as they please, so what. Politics viewed from high up, is not party, it is not ideology, it is how we work / live in the complexity of community together, it is what we do to make the world better - and sure as hell that ain't what our elected fools do today is not making the world better.
Most here will never think, never see, never live, but for the few who do, check out Derrick Jensen's books, especially "A Language Older Than Words" and "The Culture of Make Believe."
"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." Mahatma Gandhi
This stuff is happening as we write...
5 Children Die A Day from Abuse. National Child Abuse Statistics | Childhelp
Every 13 seconds a child is abused. » Child Abuse Stats
But to answer my own question since no one else would tackle it: I love questions that force either hyperbole or confusion, remove these people from society and how do you judge them? It is like our neighbors whose religion killed many of their children because Gawd was in control, not man, not medicine. How do you judge them? Blame their gawd but allow the kids to die? Interfere? What gives you that right? Any guesses?
So what do you judge them on, religion, law, what exactly? You only judge them because you live in a society governed by politics aka government. If we lived in a jungle how would we judge them? Why would we care. Could we say they can do as they please, so what. Politics viewed from high up, is not party, it is not ideology, it is how we work / live in the complexity of community together, it is what we do to make the world better - and sure as hell that ain't what our elected fools do today is not making the world better.
Most here will never think, never see, never live, but for the few who do, check out Derrick Jensen's books, especially "A Language Older Than Words" and "The Culture of Make Believe."
"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." Mahatma Gandhi
This stuff is happening as we write...
5 Children Die A Day from Abuse. National Child Abuse Statistics | Childhelp
Every 13 seconds a child is abused. » Child Abuse Stats
But to answer my own question since no one else would tackle it: I love questions that force either hyperbole or confusion, remove these people from society and how do you judge them? It is like our neighbors whose religion killed many of their children because Gawd was in control, not man, not medicine. How do you judge them? Blame their gawd but allow the kids to die? Interfere? What gives you that right? Any guesses?
So what do you judge them on, religion, law, what exactly? You only judge them because you live in a society governed by politics aka government. If we lived in a jungle how would we judge them? Why would we care. Could we say they can do as they please, so what. Politics viewed from high up, is not party, it is not ideology, it is how we work / live in the complexity of community together, it is what we do to make the world better - and sure as hell that ain't what our elected fools do today is not making the world better.
Most here will never think, never see, never live, but for the few who do, check out Derrick Jensen's books, especially "A Language Older Than Words" and "The Culture of Make Believe."
"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." Mahatma Gandhi
Things used to happen like this twenty, thirty, or forty years ago.
It just wasn't in the media, wasn't reported, wasn't talked about...because people wanted to stay out of other people's business even more so.
Waaaaaaah!
Secondly, only lunatics and illogical buffoons ask that a negative be proven.
Take a gander and see how stupid that makes you look for asking: Argument from ignorance: "Argument from ignorance, also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam or "appeal to ignorance", is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not been proven false (or vice versa). ...."
Just because you toss some random thought out there does not make it stand true.
Lazy idiot.
Yeah, I don't think the two can be compared. Folks who refuse meds, because of their religion, I think, feel they are doing what's best for the child, however, misguided they might be, Here the intent was to purposefully cause harm...and the rest of that I couldn't wrap my head enough to reply about.
Intellectually I know that children are being abused every day, but if I really thought about it I'd go mad. This case made my stomach turn. If it turns out that there were adults outside the home that knew what this poor girl was being put through and did nothing, I hope they are criminally charged as co-conspirator's in this child's death.
The depravity of our species still has the capacity to shock me.
Obviously, you didn't read a thing. I explained the fallacy and you are still doing it.'One of the laws of logic is a provable negative.'
Waaaaaaah!
Secondly, only lunatics and illogical buffoons ask that a negative be proven.
Take a gander and see how stupid that makes you look for asking: Argument from ignorance: "Argument from ignorance, also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam or "appeal to ignorance", is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not been proven false (or vice versa). ...."
Just because you toss some random thought out there does not make it stand true.
Lazy idiot.
Au contraire - I love how the right name calls like children do - my point was all things are political (in my use of the term) and since that was disputed I asked that you prove that all things are not political but instead of a debate, I get a link that makes a claim I didn't make. I didn't say all things are political because it could not be dis-proven, I argued it just is, and if you think it isn't give me an example of a non-political community? I admit a bit of stretch in this claim as my point is actions in a society are political because they exist in a particular realm: life in the community. Communities form their own rules and thus all communities are political.
"Among professional logicians, guess how many think that you cant prove a negative? Thats right: zero. Yes, Virginia, you can prove a negative, and its easy, too. For one thing, a real, actual law of logic is a negative, namely the law of non-contradiction." You Can Prove a Negative
This stuff is happening as we write...
5 Children Die A Day from Abuse. National Child Abuse Statistics | Childhelp
Every 13 seconds a child is abused. » Child Abuse Stats
But to answer my own question since no one else would tackle it: I love questions that force either hyperbole or confusion, remove these people from society and how do you judge them? It is like our neighbors whose religion killed many of their children because Gawd was in control, not man, not medicine. How do you judge them? Blame their gawd but allow the kids to die? Interfere? What gives you that right? Any guesses?
So what do you judge them on, religion, law, what exactly? You only judge them because you live in a society governed by politics aka government. If we lived in a jungle how would we judge them? Why would we care. Could we say they can do as they please, so what. Politics viewed from high up, is not party, it is not ideology, it is how we work / live in the complexity of community together, it is what we do to make the world better - and sure as hell that ain't what our elected fools do today is not making the world better.
Most here will never think, never see, never live, but for the few who do, check out Derrick Jensen's books, especially "A Language Older Than Words" and "The Culture of Make Believe."
"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." Mahatma Gandhi
.... Midcan is an idiot. Using your rationale, that stands as true until it is proven not to be true.
All things are political, ONLY to the extent that you WANT government (at whatever level, be it local, state or national), to decide all things. Now, if you want government to be all things to all people, if you want government to be the end-all and be-all of human existence (like most liberals and some authoritarian conservatives do) that proposition of yours has some truth to it. If on the other hand, you believe that some things are best handled by individual responsibility and initiative, if you believe that people can, do , and will handle some of life's problems without Big Brother doing it for them, then NO, everything is NOT necessarily political. The difference between you and me, is that you believe that because some adults need to be confined to the playpen, ALL of us need to be similarly restrained; I believe otherwise.You want government to make life "fair". I understand that life is inherently unfair, and trying to make it otherwise is both an exercise in futility, AND destructive to the principles of individual liberty and individual responsibility.
Intellectually I know that children are being abused every day, but if I really thought about it I'd go mad. This case made my stomach turn. If it turns out that there were adults outside the home that knew what this poor girl was being put through and did nothing, I hope they are criminally charged as co-conspirator's in this child's death.
The depravity of our species still has the capacity to shock me.