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A coup de'tat sponsored by giant government is proof that libertarianism is impracticable?
But I agree. Asking for limite government is a failure. The State ONLY knows how to grow itself until it metastasizes into a full blown cancer.
A coup de'tat sponsored by giant government is proof that libertarianism is impracticable?
But I agree. Asking for limite government is a failure. The State ONLY knows how to grow itself until it metastasizes into a full blown cancer.
That's why anarchy is the only answer. The phrase "limited government" is an oxymoron. No government has ever allowed itself to be limited for more than a very short time.
Small government is what the US started with when the constitution was drafted and ratified.
It is the only option we had at the time. We had a marginal economy and massive debt
It looks like we've regressed back to that condition, only the debt is much higher and the economy is only a little more improved.
That's not what was promised in 2008.
W's last deficit was $458 Billion. Last year was $564, how is that a cut in deficit? What you can say is it's the smallest deficit Obama has ever run, it's almost as small as W's largest!
Oh right, I forgot, in right wing world Obama was responsible since BEFORE he even won the election
January 08, 2009
The federal budget deficit will nearly triple to an unprecedented $1.2 trillion for the 2009 budget year, according to grim new Congressional Budget Office figures.
Dubya, like ALL Prez have a F/Y budget starting Oct 1. His last F/Y budget was Oct 1, 2008 FORWARD
Pres. Obama certainly shares responsibility. He voted for Bush's last budget, plus he and the Democrats in the House and Senate controlled the entire spending starting on March 7, 2009.
Maybe you didn't know that Bush's last budget was only approved for half of FY2009. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/hr2638/text
Obama voted for TARP too, and that was the major source of the deficit.
A coup de'tat sponsored by giant government is proof that libertarianism is impracticable?
But I agree. Asking for limite government is a failure. The State ONLY knows how to grow itself until it metastasizes into a full blown cancer.
That's why anarchy is the only answer. The phrase "limited government" is an oxymoron. No government has ever allowed itself to be limited for more than a very short time.
You should try Somalia
Simple really. They are part of that STRONG FEDERALIZED CENTRAL GOV'T OUR US FOUNDERS WANTED....
They were part of the ANTI'S federalist of their times (MAINLY CONSERVATIVES,like today's TP/GOPers)
Yeah they got in to pass a STRONG FEDERAL CONSTITUTION.
So you think the 9th and 10th amendments make the central government stronger? That's what the bill of rights was about? strong central government?
Boy you and your reading comprehension:
"Simple really. They are part of that STRONG FEDERALIZED CENTRAL GOV'T OUR US FOUNDERS WANTED....
They were part of the ANTI'S federalist of their times (MAINLY CONSERVATIVES,like today's TP/GOPers)
Yeah they got in to pass a STRONG FEDERAL CONSTITUTION."
It is the only option we had at the time. We had a marginal economy and massive debt
It looks like we've regressed back to that condition, only the debt is much higher and the economy is only a little more improved.
That's not what was promised in 2008.
You don't know what debt is if you think we compare to Revolutionary War era America
We are the wealthiest nation on earth and have the worlds largest economy. They were an agrarian economy and had borrowed to the teeth to try to get through a war
Oh right, I forgot, in right wing world Obama was responsible since BEFORE he even won the election
January 08, 2009
The federal budget deficit will nearly triple to an unprecedented $1.2 trillion for the 2009 budget year, according to grim new Congressional Budget Office figures.
Dubya, like ALL Prez have a F/Y budget starting Oct 1. His last F/Y budget was Oct 1, 2008 FORWARD
Pres. Obama certainly shares responsibility. He voted for Bush's last budget, plus he and the Democrats in the House and Senate controlled the entire spending starting on March 7, 2009.
Maybe you didn't know that Bush's last budget was only approved for half of FY2009. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/hr2638/text
Obama voted for TARP too, and that was the major source of the deficit.
TARP helped to prevent our economy from entering a depression. If the banks had failed our economy would have collapsed
It is the only option we had at the time. We had a marginal economy and massive debt
It looks like we've regressed back to that condition, only the debt is much higher and the economy is only a little more improved.
That's not what was promised in 2008.
You don't know what debt is if you think we compare to Revolutionary War era America
We are the wealthiest nation on earth and have the worlds largest economy. They were an agrarian economy and had borrowed to the teeth to try to get through a war
Oh right, I forgot, in right wing world Obama was responsible since BEFORE he even won the election
January 08, 2009
The federal budget deficit will nearly triple to an unprecedented $1.2 trillion for the 2009 budget year, according to grim new Congressional Budget Office figures.
Dubya, like ALL Prez have a F/Y budget starting Oct 1. His last F/Y budget was Oct 1, 2008 FORWARD
Pres. Obama certainly shares responsibility. He voted for Bush's last budget, plus he and the Democrats in the House and Senate controlled the entire spending starting on March 7, 2009.
Maybe you didn't know that Bush's last budget was only approved for half of FY2009. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/hr2638/text
Obama voted for TARP too, and that was the major source of the deficit.
TARP helped to prevent our economy from entering a depression. If the banks had failed our economy would have collapsed
W's last deficit was $458 Billion. Last year was $564, how is that a cut in deficit? What you can say is it's the smallest deficit Obama has ever run, it's almost as small as W's largest!
Oh right, I forgot, in right wing world Obama was responsible since BEFORE he even won the election
January 08, 2009
The federal budget deficit will nearly triple to an unprecedented $1.2 trillion for the 2009 budget year, according to grim new Congressional Budget Office figures.
Dubya, like ALL Prez have a F/Y budget starting Oct 1. His last F/Y budget was Oct 1, 2008 FORWARD
Pres. Obama certainly shares responsibility. He voted for Bush's last budget, plus he and the Democrats in the House and Senate controlled the entire spending starting on March 7, 2009.
Maybe you didn't know that Bush's last budget was only approved for half of FY2009. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/hr2638/text
Obama voted for TARP too, and that was the major source of the deficit.
Oh right, I forgot, in right wing world Obama was responsible since BEFORE he even won the election
January 08, 2009
The federal budget deficit will nearly triple to an unprecedented $1.2 trillion for the 2009 budget year, according to grim new Congressional Budget Office figures.
Dubya, like ALL Prez have a F/Y budget starting Oct 1. His last F/Y budget was Oct 1, 2008 FORWARD
Pres. Obama certainly shares responsibility. He voted for Bush's last budget, plus he and the Democrats in the House and Senate controlled the entire spending starting on March 7, 2009.
Maybe you didn't know that Bush's last budget was only approved for half of FY2009. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/hr2638/text
Obama voted for TARP too, and that was the major source of the deficit.
TARP helped to prevent our economy from entering a depression. If the banks had failed our economy would have collapsed
Got it, YOU can''t be honest
GOT IT, you lie like a rug.
Typical fascist/socialist , always trying to discredit PRIVATE ENTREPRENEURS.
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Yeah, those guys who bought the state Gov't and federal regulators lol
Pres. Obama certainly shares responsibility. He voted for Bush's last budget, plus he and the Democrats in the House and Senate controlled the entire spending starting on March 7, 2009.
Maybe you didn't know that Bush's last budget was only approved for half of FY2009. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/hr2638/text
Obama voted for TARP too, and that was the major source of the deficit.
TARP helped to prevent our economy from entering a depression. If the banks had failed our economy would have collapsed
At whose expense? Whose earnings were looted to pay for such?
A coup de'tat sponsored by giant government is proof that libertarianism is impracticable?
But I agree. Asking for limite government is a failure. The State ONLY knows how to grow itself until it metastasizes into a full blown cancer.
That's why anarchy is the only answer. The phrase "limited government" is an oxymoron. No government has ever allowed itself to be limited for more than a very short time.
You should try Somalia
It is the only option we had at the time. We had a marginal economy and massive debt
It looks like we've regressed back to that condition, only the debt is much higher and the economy is only a little more improved.
That's not what was promised in 2008.
You don't know what debt is if you think we compare to Revolutionary War era America
We are the wealthiest nation on earth and have the worlds largest economy. They were an agrarian economy and had borrowed to the teeth to try to get through a war
I didn't take it as picking a fight, we're good. Everything you say is reasonable. And certainly since you've been there there you have a great experience I do not have. You can tell me, but maybe we're talking about different meanings of anarchy. Anarchy can mean chaos, and anarchy can be a political structure with no recognized government.
I am referring to the latter. When I refer to anarchists, I am referring to people who want no recognized government. People are social, and most of them are followers. I have no doubt that if we eliminated a commonly recognized government, that Somalia is the inevitable destination. People will not live on farms with their family in their community in governmentless harmony as anarchists envision, they will join a fief or be destroyed.
In anarchy, we have government, but we do not have any consistency. If you've read the thread, you know I keep saying I don't want to live my entire life within 10 miles of where my great grandfather is born. And while the fiefs may have education, criminal justice and so forth, they are limited.
You can tell me if I misunderstood, but I took your post to mean I think anarchy is chaos. That isn't what I meant.
