What is communism, can we separate it from the horrors of Stalin & what about capitalism's crimes?!

[basquebromance]

I would humbly submit that just because a utopia isn't possible, doesn't mean we need to sleepwalk into a blade runner style dystopia wirher- which is frankly where capitalism seems to be taking us right now.

 

[BluesLegend]

Capitalism's crimes?

 

[Pogo]

What is communism, can we separate it from the horrors of Stalin

Of course, and so we should. Stalin is to communism as tires are to raspberries. The tire could run over them but that doesn't mean they're related.

Simplified, communism is a system where the collective rather than the individual, owns the joint. There are various intentional communities and Christian sects that have been living that way for centuries, in complete peace. A philosophy that addresses the "deadly sin" of Greed.

 

[Rigby5]

Money is power, such as to create a company, buy a house, educate a class, build a hospital, etc., and none of these things should be allowed to be in the hands of a monopoly.
The people should be able to collectively pool their resources and do these things for themselves.
And the whole point of government is to help people do things with pooled resources.

The fact we do not in the US, while everyone else in the world does, is why we are doing so badly right now.
Our health care costs twice as much and is not as good.
Less than 50% of the people in the US own their own home, while in most countries it is more like 90%.
Education in the US is no longer affordable compared to in other countries.
We don't even have reliable media any more.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I would humbly submit that just because a utopia isn't possible, doesn't mean we need to sleepwalk into a blade runner style dystopia wirher- which is frankly where capitalism seems to be taking us right now.

The main point of Communism, which comes from the word "commune" is that there is no leader. Leadership comes from the people who are doing the work. There aren't politicians to tell people what to do, or fuck up.

That's the difference between socialism and communism. Lack of leadership in Communism.

 

[bripat9643]

What is communism, can we separate it from the horrors of Stalin

Of course, and so we should. Stalin is to communism as tires are to raspberries. The tire could run over them but that doesn't mean they're related.

Simplified, communism is a system where the collective rather than the individual, owns the joint. There are various intentional communities and Christian sects that have been living that way for centuries, in complete peace. A philosophy that addresses the "deadly sin" of Greed.

Only a profound idiot would believe that communism could actually be made to work.

You're ignorant if you believe the Mennonites and Quakers practice communism. They have privately owned farms and observe the institution of private property.

 

[bripat9643]

I would humbly submit that just because a utopia isn't possible, doesn't mean we need to sleepwalk into a blade runner style dystopia wirher- which is frankly where capitalism seems to be taking us right now.

The main point of Communism, which comes from the word "commune" is that there is no leader. Leadership comes from the people who are doing the work. There aren't politicians to tell people what to do, or fuck up.

That's the difference between socialism and communism. Lack of leadership in Communism.

The point of communism is that there is no private property. All property is owned "communally." That's where the name comes from, dumbass. Your ignorance of what communism is explains why you believe it can actually work.

 

[Pogo]

What is communism, can we separate it from the horrors of Stalin

Of course, and so we should. Stalin is to communism as tires are to raspberries. The tire could run over them but that doesn't mean they're related.

Simplified, communism is a system where the collective rather than the individual, owns the joint. There are various intentional communities and Christian sects that have been living that way for centuries, in complete peace. A philosophy that addresses the "deadly sin" of Greed.

Only a profound idiot would believe that communism could actually be made to work.

You're ignorant if you believe the Mennonites and Quakers practice communism. They have privately owned farms and observe the institution of private property.

And you're an ignorant twat since I said nothing about "Mennonites" or "Quakers". Only a profound idiot would plug in terms that weren't even there.

The Hutterites however have been doing it for five hundred years. And have never fought in anybody's war --- which is why they've had to pull up roots over and over and migrate. Including from here, when a couple were tortured by the US Army and died at Leavenworth.

 

[OKTexas]

I would humbly submit that just because a utopia isn't possible, doesn't mean we need to sleepwalk into a blade runner style dystopia wirher- which is frankly where capitalism seems to be taking us right now.

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[basquebromance]

I would humbly submit that just because a utopia isn't possible, doesn't mean we need to sleepwalk into a blade runner style dystopia wirher- which is frankly where capitalism seems to be taking us right now.

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socialism, communism, and anarchism were all vital political movements in the 1920s. simpler times!

 

[dudmuck]

I would humbly submit that just because a utopia isn't possible, doesn't mean we need to sleepwalk into a blade runner style dystopia wirher- which is frankly where capitalism seems to be taking us right now.

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You want a link?

 

[JBond]

What is communism, can we separate it from the horrors of Stalin

Of course, and so we should. Stalin is to communism as tires are to raspberries. The tire could run over them but that doesn't mean they're related.

Simplified, communism is a system where the collective rather than the individual, owns the joint. There are various intentional communities and Christian sects that have been living that way for centuries, in complete peace. A philosophy that addresses the "deadly sin" of Greed.

Greed.... lol. All libs do is complain they haven't taken enough money from those that earned it. Then, when asked to pay their fair share, they cry like babies. Bunch of hypocrites.

 

[Nosmo King]

Capitalism's crimes?

Do you think we have unfettered Capitalism here? Capitalism is regulated due to Capotalism's infractions.

 

[OKTexas]

I would humbly submit that just because a utopia isn't possible, doesn't mean we need to sleepwalk into a blade runner style dystopia wirher- which is frankly where capitalism seems to be taking us right now.

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socialism, communism, and anarchism were all vital political movements in the 1920s. simpler times!

Why are you deflecting to the 20's, the drivel in the OP deals with the here and now, if you can't support the OP you might want to just say so.


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[JBond]

I would humbly submit that just because a utopia isn't possible, doesn't mean we need to sleepwalk into a blade runner style dystopia wirher- which is frankly where capitalism seems to be taking us right now.

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socialism, communism, and anarchism were all vital political movements in the 1920s. simpler times!

Why are you deflecting to the 20's, the drivel in the OP deals with the here and now, if you can't support the OP you might want to just say so.


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It's time to face the facts. Dems partnered with Russia to try to rig a national election (Kremlin dossier) and now they are backing China over the US. It is sickening.

 

[Pogo]

What is communism, can we separate it from the horrors of Stalin

Of course, and so we should. Stalin is to communism as tires are to raspberries. The tire could run over them but that doesn't mean they're related.

Simplified, communism is a system where the collective rather than the individual, owns the joint. There are various intentional communities and Christian sects that have been living that way for centuries, in complete peace. A philosophy that addresses the "deadly sin" of Greed.

Greed.... lol. All libs do is complain they haven't taken enough money from those that earned it. Then, when asked to pay their fair share, they cry like babies. Bunch of hypocrites.

Perhaps you're unfamiliar with the concept of the "seven deadly sins". They have nothing to do with "Liberals".

 

[JBond]

What is communism, can we separate it from the horrors of Stalin

Of course, and so we should. Stalin is to communism as tires are to raspberries. The tire could run over them but that doesn't mean they're related.

Simplified, communism is a system where the collective rather than the individual, owns the joint. There are various intentional communities and Christian sects that have been living that way for centuries, in complete peace. A philosophy that addresses the "deadly sin" of Greed.

Greed.... lol. All libs do is complain they haven't taken enough money from those that earned it. Then, when asked to pay their fair share, they cry like babies. Bunch of hypocrites.

Perhaps you're unfamiliar with the concept of the "seven deadly sins". They have nothing to do with "Liberals".

Says the greedy liberal that doesn't want to pay his fair share.

 

[OKTexas]

I would humbly submit that just because a utopia isn't possible, doesn't mean we need to sleepwalk into a blade runner style dystopia wirher- which is frankly where capitalism seems to be taking us right now.

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You want a link?

Try explaining how the crap link you posted relates to the OP.


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[JBond]

I would humbly submit that just because a utopia isn't possible, doesn't mean we need to sleepwalk into a blade runner style dystopia wirher- which is frankly where capitalism seems to be taking us right now.

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You want a link?

Try explaining how the crap link you posted relates to the OP.


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Trying to reason with greedy morons is useless. Everyone saw how the libs cried when asked to pay their fair share of federal income tax.

 

[baileyn45]

I would humbly submit that just because a utopia isn't possible, doesn't mean we need to sleepwalk into a blade runner style dystopia wirher- which is frankly where capitalism seems to be taking us right now.

We are actually in a golden age of capitalism. In the last 30 years global extreme poverty rates have fallen from 35% to under 13%. The last bastions of extreme poverty are in India and sub Saharan Africa, two of the fastest growing economic regions on the planet. These gains weren't due to socialism.

I believe that's why we are hearing so much about socialism, leftists are in panic mode. They've lost the Soviet Union, they've lost China, heck supposedly Cuba is considering reforms allowing private property expansions. Face it the leftist policies are and have been a failure, capitalism will continue to lift the last remaining people out of abject poverty.