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Whose dishing what out? I'm not attacking you on your faith in atheism.I'm not even making fun of the fact that it takes more faith in the belief that BANG here we are than you were specifically created by someone a lot wiser than those who believe we came from pond scum.You asked “why am I attacking another persons faith, in a thread that’s attacking atheism.This thread is attacking atheist? toughen up buttercup maybe you shouldn't be a bleeding heart liberal with pinned up emotions If you think this thread is attacking you seek help.No one has asked you to buy into it. Why are you determined to attack another's faith? You are almost leftist like.So what? The Jews disagree. Muslims disagree and atheists aren’t buying it no matter how many manuscripts are written.24,000 written manuscripts say otherwise.
He’s quoting a carpenter from 2000 years ago..
And this thread is a thread attacking atheists, you hypocrite snowflake. Imagine if I started a thread about the drawbacks to theism. Then you’d be on it asking me why I’m attacking your fake ass religion that’s controll8ng your puny political conservative mind.
It’s controlling you with stupidity. If you’ll believe in the jesus myth then you’ll believe anything like man made global warming doesn’t exist
You’re being a hypocrite. You guys can dish but not take it.
Me thinks it’s because I accurately mock your fake ass religion.
Dude I'm not a democrat what is the need of insulting my family showing a clambake?.Again this isn't Europe and this is the 21st century Christians no longer torture no believers in America.View attachment 281872SINCE THIS ISN'T Europe and this is the 21st century anything you wrote is irrelevant.The irony of the Europeans professing Christianity, is that their own ancestors were in fact slaughtered raped, subjugated, and enslaved into accepting Christianity... While their unaware decendents are carrying water for thier own ancestors nemesis. All the while saying "no one will force you"... Oblivious of the force that was brought to bear, that has them carrying their water.....
you are a joke ...
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nothing different today than throughout history, all three desert religions are evil, heretical - your calling.
Fetch...
Again this isn't Europe and this is the 21st century Christians no longer torture no believers in America.
It is either the first or the fourth.
I can't help what happened in the past. All I can do is the present because that is all I have.
you relish the past without remorse, that was the point of the 4th century to intervene with a false religion of fear and distortion as they have practiced since that time to the present.
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unfortunately that awful book has been reedited to accommodate the minimum acceptable norms for the robust secular society, your claim to fame "today's christianity" rather than its rightful demise as a work of evil.
Secular humanism is absurd.
Without knowing how you define secular humanism I am going to say, "no".
prove morality is dependent on a (false) messiah ...
Reason is not arbitrary, its a process of properly discerning reality. Usinng reason to determine how to ideally co-mingle, which is all that morality actually is, is adequate, inarbitrary and the results are observable/measurable and therefore actions can be objectively determined to be better or worse measured towards the goal.Secular humanism is absurd.
Without knowing how you define secular humanism I am going to say, "no".
prove morality is dependent on a (false) messiah ...
Nobody has to do that. They just function as if it is.
As I said before, you can use any tool. My two suggestions were governing laws and Dr. Suess books. Leaving each individual to determine his own moral authority is dysfunctional. This decayed type of society is to be avoided.
It doesn't have to be based on a false messiah. It can be based on anything. It can't be based on an arbitrary concept such as intellect or reason.
How we got here is unknown but it was a natural occurrence.Whose dishing what out? I'm not attacking you on your faith in atheism.I'm not even making fun of the fact that it takes more faith in the belief that BANG here we are than you were specifically created by someone a lot wiser than those who believe we came from pond scum.You asked “why am I attacking another persons faith, in a thread that’s attacking atheism.This thread is attacking atheist? toughen up buttercup maybe you shouldn't be a bleeding heart liberal with pinned up emotions If you think this thread is attacking you seek help.No one has asked you to buy into it. Why are you determined to attack another's faith? You are almost leftist like.So what? The Jews disagree. Muslims disagree and atheists aren’t buying it no matter how many manuscripts are written.
He’s quoting a carpenter from 2000 years ago..
And this thread is a thread attacking atheists, you hypocrite snowflake. Imagine if I started a thread about the drawbacks to theism. Then you’d be on it asking me why I’m attacking your fake ass religion that’s controll8ng your puny political conservative mind.
It’s controlling you with stupidity. If you’ll believe in the jesus myth then you’ll believe anything like man made global warming doesn’t exist
You’re being a hypocrite. You guys can dish but not take it.
Me thinks it’s because I accurately mock your fake ass religion.
All made up.The 3 1/2 year ministry of Jesus Christ, his death and his resurrection.What historical event? The Big Bang? The Great Flood? Eden? ...U2’s album never claimed to be a written manuscript of an historical event.U2 sold 2 000 0000 of their last CD. Doesn't make it true.You say they are fairytales.So you live your life through fairy tales. Why am I not surprised?
I say 24,000 written manuscripts say they aren’t.
I thought you were looking for proof. Written manuscripts are proof.
Nobody said they did.Who said they didn't evolve after the flood?So how did the roos get to Noah's Ark?That's a mighty be leap of faith you are taking lolit's the best FICTION selling bookSo you live your life through fairy tales. Why am I not surprised?
Why am I not surprised you are wrong? The Bible isn't a fairy tale or else it would not be the best selling book year-after-year.
He’s acting like jesus’ new religion was started by witnesses. It was not. It’s not like a bunch of people saw the resurrection and started Christianity.All made up.The 3 1/2 year ministry of Jesus Christ, his death and his resurrection.What historical event? The Big Bang? The Great Flood? Eden? ...U2’s album never claimed to be a written manuscript of an historical event.U2 sold 2 000 0000 of their last CD. Doesn't make it true.You say they are fairytales.
I say 24,000 written manuscripts say they aren’t.
I thought you were looking for proof. Written manuscripts are proof.
No different than any other event in antiquity except in this case there were orders of magnitude more writings and less time had passed between the event and the recording of the event.No first hand writings of miracles were recorded. Everything written later wasn’t even written by the witnesses. Let’s not start this argument again.Of course they do. So what?So what? The Jews disagree. Muslims disagree and atheists aren’t buying it no matter how many manuscripts are written.24,000 written manuscripts say otherwise.Yea well what did he know he was just a man. Like ghandiHis message wasn’t a political message.
It doesn’t change the fact that his ministry and the miracles he performed were recorded in writing.
And I’ve seen David copper field walk on water too.
Reason is not arbitrary, its a process of properly discerning reality. Usinng reason to determine how to ideally co-mingle, which is all that morality actually is, is adequate, inarbitrary and the results are observable/measurable and therefore actions can be objectively determined to be better or worse measured towards the goal.Secular humanism is absurd.
Without knowing how you define secular humanism I am going to say, "no".
prove morality is dependent on a (false) messiah ...
Nobody has to do that. They just function as if it is.
As I said before, you can use any tool. My two suggestions were governing laws and Dr. Suess books. Leaving each individual to determine his own moral authority is dysfunctional. This decayed type of society is to be avoided.
It doesn't have to be based on a false messiah. It can be based on anything. It can't be based on an arbitrary concept such as intellect or reason.
So the first manuscript was written up to 25 years after the facts?No different than any other event in antiquity except in this case there were orders of magnitude more writings and less time had passed between the event and the recording of the event.No first hand writings of miracles were recorded. Everything written later wasn’t even written by the witnesses. Let’s not start this argument again.Of course they do. So what?So what? The Jews disagree. Muslims disagree and atheists aren’t buying it no matter how many manuscripts are written.24,000 written manuscripts say otherwise.Yea well what did he know he was just a man. Like ghandi
It doesn’t change the fact that his ministry and the miracles he performed were recorded in writing.
And I’ve seen David copper field walk on water too.
24,000 written manuscripts with the first one written within 25 years.
There’s your proof.
Why do you keep posting pictures of Democrats?.Again this isn't Europe and this is the 21st century Christians no longer torture no believers in America.View attachment 281872SINCE THIS ISN'T Europe and this is the 21st century anything you wrote is irrelevant.The irony of the Europeans professing Christianity, is that their own ancestors were in fact slaughtered raped, subjugated, and enslaved into accepting Christianity... While their unaware decendents are carrying water for thier own ancestors nemesis. All the while saying "no one will force you"... Oblivious of the force that was brought to bear, that has them carrying their water.....
you are a joke ...
View attachment 281871
nothing different today than throughout history, all three desert religions are evil, heretical - your calling.
Fetch...
Again this isn't Europe and this is the 21st century Christians no longer torture no believers in America.
It is either the first or the fourth.
I can't help what happened in the past. All I can do is the present because that is all I have.
you relish the past without remorse, that was the point of the 4th century to intervene with a false religion of fear and distortion as they have practiced since that time to the present.
View attachment 281932
unfortunately that awful book has been reedited to accommodate the minimum acceptable norms for the robust secular society, your claim to fame "today's christianity" rather than its rightful demise as a work of evil.
24,000 of them?All made up.The 3 1/2 year ministry of Jesus Christ, his death and his resurrection.What historical event? The Big Bang? The Great Flood? Eden? ...U2’s album never claimed to be a written manuscript of an historical event.U2 sold 2 000 0000 of their last CD. Doesn't make it true.You say they are fairytales.
I say 24,000 written manuscripts say they aren’t.
I thought you were looking for proof. Written manuscripts are proof.
Yes. You think they had internet back then or something?So the first manuscript was written up to 25 years after the facts?No different than any other event in antiquity except in this case there were orders of magnitude more writings and less time had passed between the event and the recording of the event.No first hand writings of miracles were recorded. Everything written later wasn’t even written by the witnesses. Let’s not start this argument again.Of course they do. So what?So what? The Jews disagree. Muslims disagree and atheists aren’t buying it no matter how many manuscripts are written.24,000 written manuscripts say otherwise.
It doesn’t change the fact that his ministry and the miracles he performed were recorded in writing.
And I’ve seen David copper field walk on water too.
24,000 written manuscripts with the first one written within 25 years.
There’s your proof.
Do you think we cannot observe negative effects of doing nothing? That was a horrid example man, challenge yourself.Reason is not arbitrary, its a process of properly discerning reality. Usinng reason to determine how to ideally co-mingle, which is all that morality actually is, is adequate, inarbitrary and the results are observable/measurable and therefore actions can be objectively determined to be better or worse measured towards the goal.Secular humanism is absurd.
Without knowing how you define secular humanism I am going to say, "no".
prove morality is dependent on a (false) messiah ...
Nobody has to do that. They just function as if it is.
As I said before, you can use any tool. My two suggestions were governing laws and Dr. Suess books. Leaving each individual to determine his own moral authority is dysfunctional. This decayed type of society is to be avoided.
It doesn't have to be based on a false messiah. It can be based on anything. It can't be based on an arbitrary concept such as intellect or reason.
My observation is better than yours. My measurable results are more useful than your measurable results. You are talking about science. Logic isn't science. Let me give you a couple of logical and reasonable sentences.
Example: If you do absolutely nothing then you will cause no problems nor will you damage anything. Doing nothing is a superior lifestyle to all others because it creates no problems.
They are copies, not individual originals.24,000 of them?All made up.The 3 1/2 year ministry of Jesus Christ, his death and his resurrection.What historical event? The Big Bang? The Great Flood? Eden? ...U2’s album never claimed to be a written manuscript of an historical event.U2 sold 2 000 0000 of their last CD. Doesn't make it true.
I thought you were looking for proof. Written manuscripts are proof.
Acting like it?He’s acting like jesus’ new religion was started by witnesses. It was not. It’s not like a bunch of people saw the resurrection and started Christianity.All made up.The 3 1/2 year ministry of Jesus Christ, his death and his resurrection.What historical event? The Big Bang? The Great Flood? Eden? ...U2’s album never claimed to be a written manuscript of an historical event.U2 sold 2 000 0000 of their last CD. Doesn't make it true.
I thought you were looking for proof. Written manuscripts are proof.
If anything 11 guys went to places like Greece and told those stupid people what supposedly happened and they bought it.
So it's all hearsay.Yes. You think they had internet back then or something?So the first manuscript was written up to 25 years after the facts?No different than any other event in antiquity except in this case there were orders of magnitude more writings and less time had passed between the event and the recording of the event.No first hand writings of miracles were recorded. Everything written later wasn’t even written by the witnesses. Let’s not start this argument again.Of course they do. So what?So what? The Jews disagree. Muslims disagree and atheists aren’t buying it no matter how many manuscripts are written.
It doesn’t change the fact that his ministry and the miracles he performed were recorded in writing.
And I’ve seen David copper field walk on water too.
24,000 written manuscripts with the first one written within 25 years.
There’s your proof.
Yes, some are. Meticulously copied. 24,000 of them.They are copies, not individual originals.24,000 of them?All made up.The 3 1/2 year ministry of Jesus Christ, his death and his resurrection.What historical event? The Big Bang? The Great Flood? Eden? ...U2’s album never claimed to be a written manuscript of an historical event.
I thought you were looking for proof. Written manuscripts are proof.
No. It’s the proof you are looking for.So it's all hearsay.Yes. You think they had internet back then or something?So the first manuscript was written up to 25 years after the facts?No different than any other event in antiquity except in this case there were orders of magnitude more writings and less time had passed between the event and the recording of the event.No first hand writings of miracles were recorded. Everything written later wasn’t even written by the witnesses. Let’s not start this argument again.Of course they do. So what?
It doesn’t change the fact that his ministry and the miracles he performed were recorded in writing.
And I’ve seen David copper field walk on water too.
24,000 written manuscripts with the first one written within 25 years.
There’s your proof.
