I can’t read the entire thing. I get the gist. Don’t blame the schools or atheism. Blame yourself. You raised those children and they rebelled against you and your form of Christianity.Sealybobo, no matter how religious we are, Christians do not determine who goes to heaven and who doesn't. God does that because he can look upon the heart. Mere mortals do not have that capacity.I still don’t get you.I fucking hope so.I need to believe in god to do those things?The ability to derive purpose, and the will to press ones self determination.What does create agency mean?
We hav a purpose just like every othe4 animal on the planet.
And I can have the will to press my self determination without god too. Can’t I?
Create agency? Where did you hear that?
And I just proved we hav a purpose without god and we can press our self determination, whatever that even means.
Why are you saying nonsensical things and then end it with you hope so.
So I’m right? Still trying to figure out what you think is sad.
I think what you mean is how sad it must be not to believe that when I die I will become a god myself. Or I’ll burn in hell.
I find both notions preposterous
I don't have any case against atheism, except for my experience. I sent my children to public schools, where both my kids - unbeknownst to me - were indoctrinated into atheism by teachers. Our school district did not ask and did not tell if teachers were believers or atheists, and I didn't think it mattered until the following facts hit me directly in the face. My son had already undergone 2 years of university studies that included a "study" of all the world's religions that caused him to believe none of them were valid, including and especially the church we raised him in. I had the misery of seeing my own son curse the church, our beloved and scholarly pastor, and 15 generations of my family's elders who believed in God including several ministers and schoolmarms who were above reproach, and it was an arrow in the back that went directly into my heart as I watched this unhappy diatribe unfold. He already had his bags packed and left directly from the church to go back to the school he had earned a four-year scholarship to in high school. Then when he graduated with two degrees, he left our home and went off for advanced studies with scholarships granted to him in North Carolina that gives free scholarships to one student from each state, and he was it. The next time I heard from him, he was telling me he was gay on my 52nd birthday. I almost fainted. The next time I heard from him he was on his honeymoon with his 4th boyfriend. That meant no grandchildren. I was hoping he would give back to our family an heir for a grandfather who had a photographic memory. It doesn't show up for several generations. The other child also adopted a hatred for the church through her atheism learned at high school. She has divorced herself from her parents who loved and supported her for 18 years. Her present to us from this hatred of faith was documented by her creating the nastiest scene imaginable on her 18th birthday, at which time she packed and left the next morning, never to return to the family. She scorned us because we would not allow her to live with her drinking friends in school whose parents merely purchased a separate apartment for their child when she was a freshman in high school. She invited my daughter to be her roommate two years before graduation, and we refused because in that state, parents are liable for everything their child does up until the age of 18. The child criticized us constantly for the last 2 years she lived at home. She hated the food, she said. She hated the curfews. She wanted to live with her rich friend who had no restrictions. She hated us for being faithful church members, and said we caused her to hate the church, that everything she loved we wouldn't allow, and she hated our home, which gave her own room, she hated the colors in her bedroom, which we purchased because she said her favorite color was purple, but once she got her bedroom linens of purple, she suddenly changed her mind and it became her most hated color. She left our home, got in trouble with the law through her best friend, who stole a car and crossed two state lines. The car belonged to only one of the girl's many paramours, the one who gave his galpal his wife's car. Now wasn't that special.Anyway, we got notifications from police in 3 states that my daughter knew where the woman was, but we didn't because the two of them took a joyride to yet another state, and didn't bother to tell us they were leaving since we weren't worth talking to for expecting our daughter to live within the simple rules of living and working for the good of self and others. She trashed every single rule we set, and she has not contacted me in over 7 years, including the year her daddy died, and I had to bury him without her support. She came to town, but defied propriety by badmouthing me and my late husband to anyone who would listen to her crazy speeches about what rotten people her parents were, and how she was better off not ever speaking to us again. I tried to contact her a year after her dad passed, but she returned my pictures of him that she didn't have and my card of love with black marks scribbled with the lie that she had moved and left no address. She has lived her life out rubbing it in how we destroyed her love, etc., etc., etc., by being too strict (we weren't), and a bunch of other false narrative about the badness of people who believe in God. The only time I can really remember anything negative about going to church was the Sunday she was going to wear a pair of jeans with two huge holes in the butt to let people know she didn't have to wear panties under her jeans. All I did was ask her to please wear jeans without holes in them, of which she had many pairs. She was defiant until her dad said something like "Going to the dump?" at which time she started laughing and immediately changed her pants and went to church with her family. I finally figured it out. She had to laugh to comply with dumb stuff parents care about. I didn't think much about it until her appearance on his funeral day to our family, but she stayed out of my sight, and I never got to see her nor years preceding the funeral.
So I figured it out. Atheists are created by people other than family, and they use any little detail of their displeasure against church principles to destroy those who remain true to the principles of loving God and his kingdom. The atheist trashes and throws away human beings he or she can't stand, and I can tell you right now, they can't stand parents who remain in their own church when push comes to shove. Our family will not have an heir who has grandpa's photographic memory through my children. I cry often because my children have built their lives around hating God and churches. It's just part of this generation. I heard some contemporary music at a bar the other night, and the songs they were singing were filled with 4-letter words, just like my daughter's final condemnatory of speech at me several years ago. I was not spared even one iota for my sacrifices in behalf of my daughter, which she has cheerfully forgotten with so much rage and hatred inside her that I never saw coming before the day I told her she couldn't go live with her gal pal with the apartment when she was just about 16 years old. If I had to raise a family again, they would not be going to public schools. The atheist push is too strong because religious parents are so busy serving their community, they have this false sense of belief that teachers share traditional mores. Instead, they prepare young women to have IUDs, knowledge of condoms, and how exciting sex is when they are twelve years old. Sex education was supposed to help curb sexual activities in teenagers. Instead, it got pushed into elementary schools, and venereal diseases have never been more rampant than after education put its bid in to make sure girls don't get pregnant. They weren't talking abortions the parents never hear about when they were shilling sex education for public schools.
In science, instead of learning about God's wonderful universe, they are taught that nothing matters except things that can be proven in a physical way, and that spiritual matters are hocus-pocus and all bad.
My atheism or agnosticism didn’t stop me from being successful or respectful of my loving parents.
You’re blaming atheism not yourself.