What Kind of State in Israel?

[georgephillip]

None of which would have occurred if 650,000 Jews hadn't inflicted a Jewish State on 1.2 million Arab citizens of Mandate Palestine in 1948. The Six Day War should more properly be remembered as the "Liberation of Judea and Samaria," although its Final Solution remains in doubt.

Translation; Not only did Israel not have the right to be created but it should be wiped off the map; even today. Which is why there can never be " peace". Israel will never go back to Borders that COULD have been the " Palestinian State" prior to 1967, be denied access to E. Jerusalem; Something that Jordan was OBLIGATED to do but of course didn't, or allow " Right of Return". The latter would wipe Israel off the map. That is not going to happen; Deal with it.

Ask ANY Pro- Palestinian what exactly they are doing to " negotiate" and there will be no answer. All they have are big mouths

While all you have to offer is your little brain.

Israel was conceived as an apartheid state in which Jews would rule over non-Jews.
The fiction of a Democratic Israel always depended upon a Jewish majority.
There are currently a million more non-Jews living between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River than there are Jews.

Ask any pro-racist tool to translate that math.

 

[RoccoR]

irosie91, et al,

There is a mistake in the understanding of the even, politically.

I have been involved in the INVESTIGATION of many INJURIES
including military injuries. Injured persons virtually always
BLAME SOMEONE The sense of that boys on the SS Liberty
have that they were being KNOWINGLY ATTACKED ----as a US
ship is not at all surprising. Military people understand this
phenomenon

(COMMENT)

The purpose of the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was to make it look like the Egyptians did it and draw the US into the conflict. It was a perfect plan, except the USS Liberty did not sink. The second assault was to finish the job, except the witnesses, the crew of the USS Liberty, had already contacted the fleet and exposed the Israelis as the true attackers.

There was no mistake by the Israelis in the identification of the ship. They knew very well the identity of the ship. They had it completely encircled and was observing it from every aspect angle, and intercepted the HF/VHF radio traffic with the fleet. It took them a while to set-up their cover story.

While it shows the character and integrity of the Israeli IDF and Government (morally, ethically, and politically) and is merely one of many reasons to double check everything the Israelis (honesty, integrity, validity) give us, there are a number of reasons that are not in the public domain that neither the US or Israel really want exposed. The IDF believed the USS Liberty was there to track a specific asset, while appearing to provide general tactical intelligence on the progress of the war.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[georgephillip]

Was the plan hatched in Tel-Aviv or DC?

 

[toomuchtime_]

irosie91, et al,

There is a mistake in the understanding of the even, politically.

I have been involved in the INVESTIGATION of many INJURIES
including military injuries. Injured persons virtually always
BLAME SOMEONE The sense of that boys on the SS Liberty
have that they were being KNOWINGLY ATTACKED ----as a US
ship is not at all surprising. Military people understand this
phenomenon

(COMMENT)

The purpose of the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was to make it look like the Egyptians did it and draw the US into the conflict. It was a perfect plan, except the USS Liberty did not sink. The second assault was to finish the job, except the witnesses, the crew of the USS Liberty, had already contacted the fleet and exposed the Israelis as the true attackers.

There was no mistake by the Israelis in the identification of the ship. They knew very well the identity of the ship. They had it completely encircled and was observing it from every aspect angle, and intercepted the HF/VHF radio traffic with the fleet. It took them a while to set-up their cover story.

While it shows the character and integrity of the Israeli IDF and Government (morally, ethically, and politically) and is merely one of many reasons to double check everything the Israelis (honesty, integrity, validity) give us, there are a number of reasons that are not in the public domain that neither the US or Israel really want exposed. The IDF believed the USS Liberty was there to track a specific asset, while appearing to provide general tactical intelligence on the progress of the war.

Most Respectfully,
R

This is one of the most bizarre allegations I have seen to date. What makes you think the Israelis wanted the US in the war when they had already knocked out the Egyptian air force in the first hours of the war and thus rendered their armor and infantry nearly useless? The war had already been won and the Israelis were only interested in limiting their own losses when the attack took place.

 

[Hossfly]

One of your own, rosie:

"'They must understand that a mistake was made here,' Spector said. 'The
fool is one who wanders about in the dark in dangerous places, so they
should not come with any complaints.'


Brig Gen. Yiftah Spector, Israeli Air Force, in an interview with the Jerusalem Post."

The only mistake was trusting an "ally" like Spector and Israel.

USS Liberty Memorial: Quotes Main Page

The Muslims can kill thousands in a short period, and Georgie Boy sits back and pulls up the Liberty incident for the umpteenth time. Does anyone think that Georgie would bring up the fact that we give a lot of money to Pakistan, and in turn many in the Pakistani Army give intelligence to the Taliban so that they can kill our soldiers. Then again Georgie Boy doesn't care how many American soldiers are killed because he hates our American military. He doesn't even care about anyone killed on the Liberty, but just uses the incident because Israel was involved. I guess Georgie Boy, living in Los Angeles, is too busy posting his same old stuff on message boards that he can't drive north of his home to the Naval Bases in Ventura county and ask the retired military men going in to do their shopping what they think about the Liberty incident.

Since I never perceived the slightest threat to the US homeland or its legitimate national interest from Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan , and Pakistan COMBINED, I find it revealing how those who "choose" to participate in the killing of millions of innocent human beings have few qualms about the "chosen" people killing Americans who weren't engaged in war crimes.

What made you take part in the US invasion and occupation of South Vietnam, Hossie?
The same pathic lies that prop up the Jewish State?

So tell us, Georgie Boy, how did you escape the draft since you claim you were born in 1947? Did you run up to Canada and hide out for a period of time, and then when it was safe you came back here and joined something like Louie Farrakhan's group which taught you to bash Israel while embracing the terrorists who want to take over the world for Islam? Or since there are many Muslims who are taught to hate the Jews and who emigrated to the U.S., were you one of these but prefer to claim that you were born here? After all on the Internet a person can claim whatever he wants to. When you can drag yourself away from the message board, Georgie Boy, do you attend that big Mosque in Los Angeles which was built with money given by a Saudi Prince?

 

[toastman]

The Muslims can kill thousands in a short period, and Georgie Boy sits back and pulls up the Liberty incident for the umpteenth time. Does anyone think that Georgie would bring up the fact that we give a lot of money to Pakistan, and in turn many in the Pakistani Army give intelligence to the Taliban so that they can kill our soldiers. Then again Georgie Boy doesn't care how many American soldiers are killed because he hates our American military. He doesn't even care about anyone killed on the Liberty, but just uses the incident because Israel was involved. I guess Georgie Boy, living in Los Angeles, is too busy posting his same old stuff on message boards that he can't drive north of his home to the Naval Bases in Ventura county and ask the retired military men going in to do their shopping what they think about the Liberty incident.

Since I never perceived the slightest threat to the US homeland or its legitimate national interest from Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan , and Pakistan COMBINED, I find it revealing how those who "choose" to participate in the killing of millions of innocent human beings have few qualms about the "chosen" people killing Americans who weren't engaged in war crimes.

What made you take part in the US invasion and occupation of South Vietnam, Hossie?
The same pathic lies that prop up the Jewish State?

So tell us, Georgie Boy, how did you escape the draft since you claim you were born in 1947? Did you run up to Canada and hide out for a period of time, and then when it was safe you came back here and joined something like Louie Farrakhan's group which taught you to bash Israel while embracing the terrorists who want to take over the world for Islam? Or since there are many Muslims who are taught to hate the Jews and who emigrated to the U.S., were you one of these but prefer to claim that you were born here? After all on the Internet a person can claim whatever he wants to. When you can drag yourself away from the message board, Georgie Boy, do you attend that big Mosque in Los Angeles which was built with money given by a Saudi Prince?

Georgie buy is a huge liar, i wouldnt listen to what he says

 

[proudveteran06]

None of which would have occurred if 650,000 Jews hadn't inflicted a Jewish State on 1.2 million Arab citizens of Mandate Palestine in 1948. The Six Day War should more properly be remembered as the "Liberation of Judea and Samaria," although its Final Solution remains in doubt.

Translation; Not only did Israel not have the right to be created but it should be wiped off the map; even today. Which is why there can never be " peace". Israel will never go back to Borders that COULD have been the " Palestinian State" prior to 1967, be denied access to E. Jerusalem; Something that Jordan was OBLIGATED to do but of course didn't, or allow " Right of Return". The latter would wipe Israel off the map. That is not going to happen; Deal with it.

Ask ANY Pro- Palestinian what exactly they are doing to " negotiate" and there will be no answer. All they have are big mouths

While all you have to offer is your little brain.

Israel was conceived as an apartheid state in which Jews would rule over non-Jews.
The fiction of a Democratic Israel always depended upon a Jewish majority.
There are currently a million more non-Jews living between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River than there are Jews.

Ask any pro-racist tool to translate that math.

All you have to offer is your little brain and a Big Mouth. Israel ( Where a Jewish Majority) and Non- Jews live is " Apartheid" but a NJA " Palestinian State" isn't? How do you feel about other Arab States where Jews aren't allowed? Of course you do not see anything wrong with that; You racist bigot.

Still can't tell me what the Palestinians are doing to " negotiate". That's because you can't. All you can offer is your Anti- Israel, Pro- Palestinian bigoted, racist Big Mouth

WHICH IS WHY THERE WILL NEVER BE A " PALESTINIAN STATE"

 

[ima]

Translation; Not only did Israel not have the right to be created but it should be wiped off the map; even today. Which is why there can never be " peace". Israel will never go back to Borders that COULD have been the " Palestinian State" prior to 1967, be denied access to E. Jerusalem; Something that Jordan was OBLIGATED to do but of course didn't, or allow " Right of Return". The latter would wipe Israel off the map. That is not going to happen; Deal with it.

Ask ANY Pro- Palestinian what exactly they are doing to " negotiate" and there will be no answer. All they have are big mouths

While all you have to offer is your little brain.

Israel was conceived as an apartheid state in which Jews would rule over non-Jews.
The fiction of a Democratic Israel always depended upon a Jewish majority.
There are currently a million more non-Jews living between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River than there are Jews.

Ask any pro-racist tool to translate that math.

All you have to offer is your little brain and a Big Mouth. Israel ( Where a Jewish Majority) and Non- Jews live is " Apartheid" but a NJA " Palestinian State" isn't? How do you feel about other Arab States where Jews aren't allowed? Of course you do not see anything wrong with that; You racist bigot.

Still can't tell me what the Palestinians are doing to " negotiate". That's because you can't. All you can offer is your Anti- Israel, Pro- Palestinian bigoted, racist Big Mouth

WHICH IS WHY THERE WILL NEVER BE A " PALESTINIAN STATE"

So your excuse for Israel to be an apartheid state is because the arabs do it? Nice.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Translation; Not only did Israel not have the right to be created but it should be wiped off the map; even today. Which is why there can never be " peace". Israel will never go back to Borders that COULD have been the " Palestinian State" prior to 1967, be denied access to E. Jerusalem; Something that Jordan was OBLIGATED to do but of course didn't, or allow " Right of Return". The latter would wipe Israel off the map. That is not going to happen; Deal with it.

Ask ANY Pro- Palestinian what exactly they are doing to " negotiate" and there will be no answer. All they have are big mouths

While all you have to offer is your little brain.

Israel was conceived as an apartheid state in which Jews would rule over non-Jews.
The fiction of a Democratic Israel always depended upon a Jewish majority.
There are currently a million more non-Jews living between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River than there are Jews.

Ask any pro-racist tool to translate that math.

All you have to offer is your little brain and a Big Mouth. Israel ( Where a Jewish Majority) and Non- Jews live is " Apartheid" but a NJA " Palestinian State" isn't? How do you feel about other Arab States where Jews aren't allowed? Of course you do not see anything wrong with that; You racist bigot.

Still can't tell me what the Palestinians are doing to " negotiate". That's because you can't. All you can offer is your Anti- Israel, Pro- Palestinian bigoted, racist Big Mouth

WHICH IS WHY THERE WILL NEVER BE A " PALESTINIAN STATE"

The state of Palestine is recognized by the UN. This did not create a state. It recognized an existing state.

How long has Palestine existed as a state?

 

[georgephillip]

irosie91, et al,

There is a mistake in the understanding of the even, politically.

I have been involved in the INVESTIGATION of many INJURIES
including military injuries. Injured persons virtually always
BLAME SOMEONE The sense of that boys on the SS Liberty
have that they were being KNOWINGLY ATTACKED ----as a US
ship is not at all surprising. Military people understand this
phenomenon

(COMMENT)

The purpose of the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was to make it look like the Egyptians did it and draw the US into the conflict. It was a perfect plan, except the USS Liberty did not sink. The second assault was to finish the job, except the witnesses, the crew of the USS Liberty, had already contacted the fleet and exposed the Israelis as the true attackers.

There was no mistake by the Israelis in the identification of the ship. They knew very well the identity of the ship. They had it completely encircled and was observing it from every aspect angle, and intercepted the HF/VHF radio traffic with the fleet. It took them a while to set-up their cover story.

While it shows the character and integrity of the Israeli IDF and Government (morally, ethically, and politically) and is merely one of many reasons to double check everything the Israelis (honesty, integrity, validity) give us, there are a number of reasons that are not in the public domain that neither the US or Israel really want exposed. The IDF believed the USS Liberty was there to track a specific asset, while appearing to provide general tactical intelligence on the progress of the war.

Most Respectfully,
R

This is one of the most bizarre allegations I have seen to date. What makes you think the Israelis wanted the US in the war when they had already knocked out the Egyptian air force in the first hours of the war and thus rendered their armor and infantry nearly useless? The war had already been won and the Israelis were only interested in limiting their own losses when the attack took place.

Maybe their G-d told them to do it?

There's no doubt they deliberately killed 34 Americans in international waters.

Any possible motives or accomplices will require a full investigation by the US Congress to determine.

 

[irosie91]

the Navy completed an investigation. Military accidents are very common in
peace time and VERY VERY COMMON during war

 

[georgephillip]

Translation; Not only did Israel not have the right to be created but it should be wiped off the map; even today. Which is why there can never be " peace". Israel will never go back to Borders that COULD have been the " Palestinian State" prior to 1967, be denied access to E. Jerusalem; Something that Jordan was OBLIGATED to do but of course didn't, or allow " Right of Return". The latter would wipe Israel off the map. That is not going to happen; Deal with it.

Ask ANY Pro- Palestinian what exactly they are doing to " negotiate" and there will be no answer. All they have are big mouths

While all you have to offer is your little brain.

Israel was conceived as an apartheid state in which Jews would rule over non-Jews.
The fiction of a Democratic Israel always depended upon a Jewish majority.
There are currently a million more non-Jews living between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River than there are Jews.

Ask any pro-racist tool to translate that math.

All you have to offer is your little brain and a Big Mouth. Israel ( Where a Jewish Majority) and Non- Jews live is " Apartheid" but a NJA " Palestinian State" isn't? How do you feel about other Arab States where Jews aren't allowed? Of course you do not see anything wrong with that; You racist bigot.

Still can't tell me what the Palestinians are doing to " negotiate". That's because you can't. All you can offer is your Anti- Israel, Pro- Palestinian bigoted, racist Big Mouth

WHICH IS WHY THERE WILL NEVER BE A " PALESTINIAN STATE"

One thing Palestinians are not doing today is building settlements in Israel.
"Negotiations" are impossible with those who refuse to stop stealing land and water during actual "negotiations." Can you wrap your pathic "mind" around that?

NJA means there will be no IDF snipers killing Arab children for sport when Palestine comes into existence.

If Israel is such an exalted place, why aren't you living there?

 

[georgephillip]

the Navy completed an investigation. Military accidents are very common in
peace time and VERY VERY COMMON during war

The Navy completed its "investigation" in ten days without hearing any testimony from the IDF.
Liberty officers were not allowed to testify about the "accidental" machine gunning of life rafts.
What does that tell you about "whitewash?"

 

[ima]

While all you have to offer is your little brain.

Israel was conceived as an apartheid state in which Jews would rule over non-Jews.
The fiction of a Democratic Israel always depended upon a Jewish majority.
There are currently a million more non-Jews living between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River than there are Jews.

Ask any pro-racist tool to translate that math.

All you have to offer is your little brain and a Big Mouth. Israel ( Where a Jewish Majority) and Non- Jews live is " Apartheid" but a NJA " Palestinian State" isn't? How do you feel about other Arab States where Jews aren't allowed? Of course you do not see anything wrong with that; You racist bigot.

Still can't tell me what the Palestinians are doing to " negotiate". That's because you can't. All you can offer is your Anti- Israel, Pro- Palestinian bigoted, racist Big Mouth

WHICH IS WHY THERE WILL NEVER BE A " PALESTINIAN STATE"

One thing Palestinians are not doing today is building settlements in Israel.
"Negotiations" are impossible with those who refuse to stop stealing land and water during actual "negotiations." Can you wrap your pathic "mind" around that?

NJA means there will be no IDF snipers killing Arab children for sport when Palestine comes into existence.

If Israel is such an exalted place, why aren't you living there?

...because a lot of christians support Israel because they need armageddon in the ME for Jesus to come back and save them.

 

[georgephillip]

I sometimes wonder if slavery could have been institutionalized without devout Jews and Christians?

 

[Hossfly]

While all you have to offer is your little brain.

Israel was conceived as an apartheid state in which Jews would rule over non-Jews.
The fiction of a Democratic Israel always depended upon a Jewish majority.
There are currently a million more non-Jews living between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River than there are Jews.

Ask any pro-racist tool to translate that math.

All you have to offer is your little brain and a Big Mouth. Israel ( Where a Jewish Majority) and Non- Jews live is " Apartheid" but a NJA " Palestinian State" isn't? How do you feel about other Arab States where Jews aren't allowed? Of course you do not see anything wrong with that; You racist bigot.

Still can't tell me what the Palestinians are doing to " negotiate". That's because you can't. All you can offer is your Anti- Israel, Pro- Palestinian bigoted, racist Big Mouth

WHICH IS WHY THERE WILL NEVER BE A " PALESTINIAN STATE"

One thing Palestinians are not doing today is building settlements in Israel.
"Negotiations" are impossible with those who refuse to stop stealing land and water during actual "negotiations." Can you wrap your pathic "mind" around that?

NJA means there will be no IDF snipers killing Arab children for sport when Palestine comes into existence.

If Israel is such an exalted place, why aren't you living there?

Are you posting from Gaza where your heart is?

 

[ima]

What Kind of State in Israel?

It's the kind of state that can't defeat their enemies.

 

[P F Tinmore]

What Kind of State in Israel?

It's the kind of state that can't defeat their enemies.

Really.

Israel's military has been pounding on Palestinian civilians for over 60 years and have not won anything yet.

 

[irosie91]

What Kind of State in Israel?

It's the kind of state that can't defeat their enemies.

Really.

Israel's military has been pounding on Palestinian civilians for over 60 years and have not won anything yet.

The sluts and dogs of mecca have been murdering jews for 1400 years and are still
mired in their own filth and covered with the sores of impetigo -----AND remain,
largely, the SAME ILLITERATE PIGS they were back then

 

[ima]

What Kind of State in Israel?

It's the kind of state that can't defeat their enemies.

Really.

Israel's military has been pounding on Palestinian civilians for over 60 years and have not won anything yet.

The sluts and dogs of mecca have been murdering jews for 1400 years and are still
mired in their own filth and covered with the sores of impetigo -----AND remain,
largely, the SAME ILLITERATE PIGS they were back then

Maybe, but they have most of our money.