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The ability to use the people's money to increase power, prestige, influence, and personal wealth is addicting. And most who go to Washington these days become addicted very quickly and getting re-elected and continuing becomes their No. 1 priority. It is infectious, malignant, and corrupting in all aspects of government and the best interests of the people become secondary considerations if they are considered at all. Free stuff granted and/or promised is the way to continue to be re-elected, ensure a legacy and great personal wealth.
Likewise the allure of received and/or promised free stuff is quickly addicting and soon becomes corrupting in all aspects of society. And soon electing people that will keep the free stuff coming becomes the No. 1 priority. It too is infectious, malignant, and corrupting. Some might even say that so long as it is legal, there is no problem.
Only when we return to the concept that nobody in the federal government can use the people's money to dispense favors or benevolence to ANYBODY, will we again have true public servants in government and an America that again understands the blessings of liberty.
But isn't cronyism really the way all government works regardless of the type?
And if so, then isn't it more a matter of policing the corruption properly as opposed to end political favor trading?
But do you put the foxes in charge of guarding the hen house from the foxes? Who is there to police the corruption? Most of the media has not done its job in a long long time now, and the few media sources that do are quickly demonized and marginalized as much as possible.
Easily 50% or more of Americans are now dependent on and/or addicted to some form of government freebies. Many of these are willing for others to lose their freebies, but don't want to lose those they themselves are getting. So they vote to keep the gravy train alive.
And yes, cronyism is a fact of and has existed in all of society for all of history, inside and outside of government. But when localized it is more easily managed. At the federal level, it gets swallowed up in the magnitude of an ever growing, expanding, and power hungry government. I doubt there is a human alive who fully understands how large, pervasive, and corrupt it has all become.
But make it illegal for anybody in the federal government to give away the people's money or resources to anybody, and that would correct a huge chunk of it. Instead of buying votes, they would be forced to return to the concept of earning votes via responsible, efficient, effective government again.
But isn't cronyism really the way all government works regardless of the type?
And if so, then isn't it more a matter of policing the corruption properly as opposed to end political favor trading?
But do you put the foxes in charge of guarding the hen house from the foxes? Who is there to police the corruption? Most of the media has not done its job in a long long time now, and the few media sources that do are quickly demonized and marginalized as much as possible.
Easily 50% or more of Americans are now dependent on and/or addicted to some form of government freebies. Many of these are willing for others to lose their freebies, but don't want to lose those they themselves are getting. So they vote to keep the gravy train alive.
And yes, cronyism is a fact of and has existed in all of society for all of history, inside and outside of government. But when localized it is more easily managed. At the federal level, it gets swallowed up in the magnitude of an ever growing, expanding, and power hungry government. I doubt there is a human alive who fully understands how large, pervasive, and corrupt it has all become.
But make it illegal for anybody in the federal government to give away the people's money or resources to anybody, and that would correct a huge chunk of it. Instead of buying votes, they would be forced to return to the concept of earning votes via responsible, efficient, effective government again.
How is "giving away the people money" defined?
Obviously there HAS to be government contractors to service the military, build roads and bridges, etc. so what you're saying is too vague and generalized to be an effective strategy.
But isn't cronyism really the way all government works regardless of the type?
And if so, then isn't it more a matter of policing the corruption properly as opposed to end political favor trading?
But do you put the foxes in charge of guarding the hen house from the foxes? Who is there to police the corruption? Most of the media has not done its job in a long long time now, and the few media sources that do are quickly demonized and marginalized as much as possible.
Easily 50% or more of Americans are now dependent on and/or addicted to some form of government freebies. Many of these are willing for others to lose their freebies, but don't want to lose those they themselves are getting. So they vote to keep the gravy train alive.
And yes, cronyism is a fact of and has existed in all of society for all of history, inside and outside of government. But when localized it is more easily managed. At the federal level, it gets swallowed up in the magnitude of an ever growing, expanding, and power hungry government. I doubt there is a human alive who fully understands how large, pervasive, and corrupt it has all become.
But make it illegal for anybody in the federal government to give away the people's money or resources to anybody, and that would correct a huge chunk of it. Instead of buying votes, they would be forced to return to the concept of earning votes via responsible, efficient, effective government again.
How is "giving away the people money" defined?
Obviously there HAS to be government contractors to service the military, build roads and bridges, etc. so what you're saying is too vague and generalized to be an effective strategy.
We think you are about the most stupid person on this board. Why then do you continue to post and leave no doubt?better move then... it aint gonna change anytime soon. it would suck to be you. living in fear all the time, hope your scared life is peachy.....so you think the military is unsafe?
The military? No. The government that directs the military? Abso-fucking-lutely, at least in potentia.
"Giving away the people's money is giving it to a particular person, group, entity, class, or whatever who did nothing to earn it and with no expectation or requirement that they do anything to earn it."
If you met these imaginary demons, you would find they deserve a minimal safety net, and more opportunity for training in order to pull themselves up- not to mention jobs that pay a living wage and have health insurance that gives them preventive care and saves EVERYBODY money over the ER care/bancruptcy/scams out of control "system" we have now. Change the channel.
I would have made that dishonest leech my personal cause.if its not illegal stop complaining about it.why havent you reported her? fraud is still fraud. i know plenty of conservatives who are on welfare and food stamps... whats your point?
Is she committing fraud according to the law ?
Likely she is not. It is legal to bilk the system.
But do you put the foxes in charge of guarding the hen house from the foxes? Who is there to police the corruption? Most of the media has not done its job in a long long time now, and the few media sources that do are quickly demonized and marginalized as much as possible.
Easily 50% or more of Americans are now dependent on and/or addicted to some form of government freebies. Many of these are willing for others to lose their freebies, but don't want to lose those they themselves are getting. So they vote to keep the gravy train alive.
And yes, cronyism is a fact of and has existed in all of society for all of history, inside and outside of government. But when localized it is more easily managed. At the federal level, it gets swallowed up in the magnitude of an ever growing, expanding, and power hungry government. I doubt there is a human alive who fully understands how large, pervasive, and corrupt it has all become.
But make it illegal for anybody in the federal government to give away the people's money or resources to anybody, and that would correct a huge chunk of it. Instead of buying votes, they would be forced to return to the concept of earning votes via responsible, efficient, effective government again.
How is "giving away the people money" defined?
Obviously there HAS to be government contractors to service the military, build roads and bridges, etc. so what you're saying is too vague and generalized to be an effective strategy.
I think some are speaking of the Safety Net...you know welfare...giving people money for squirting out babies with NO responsibilty demanded for receiving the funds.
Is it right for able-bodied people who can work to be on the dole for prolonged periods and take up residence in the net while making it a hammock perpetually?
And I will add...
Was/IS it government's responsibility to take over the charity role private citizens are quite capable of handling on thier own?
And I will add...
Was/IS it government's responsibility to take over the charity role private citizens are quite capable of handling on thier own?
Sorry. You're going to lose me if you expect me to count on the good will of others.
But do you put the foxes in charge of guarding the hen house from the foxes? Who is there to police the corruption? Most of the media has not done its job in a long long time now, and the few media sources that do are quickly demonized and marginalized as much as possible.
Easily 50% or more of Americans are now dependent on and/or addicted to some form of government freebies. Many of these are willing for others to lose their freebies, but don't want to lose those they themselves are getting. So they vote to keep the gravy train alive.
And yes, cronyism is a fact of and has existed in all of society for all of history, inside and outside of government. But when localized it is more easily managed. At the federal level, it gets swallowed up in the magnitude of an ever growing, expanding, and power hungry government. I doubt there is a human alive who fully understands how large, pervasive, and corrupt it has all become.
But make it illegal for anybody in the federal government to give away the people's money or resources to anybody, and that would correct a huge chunk of it. Instead of buying votes, they would be forced to return to the concept of earning votes via responsible, efficient, effective government again.
How is "giving away the people money" defined?
Obviously there HAS to be government contractors to service the military, build roads and bridges, etc. so what you're saying is too vague and generalized to be an effective strategy.
Issuing contracts for necessary services is not charity or benevolence or cronyism. The easiest way to accomplish that is to eliminate all unnecessary regulation on government contracts such as a requirement that the contract go only to union shops or that the contractor must pay union wages, etc. Then widely advertise the contracts that will be let, be sure all open contracts are posted in one easily located and accessible place, and then issue the contract to the lowest qualified bidder. And assign qualified oversight to ensure that the contractor meets all specifications of the contract as agreed, no kickbacks occur, and all the money is accounted for. Any department head or other bureaucrat caught allowing kickbacks or intentionally sloppy oversight should be fired or even prosecuted, fined, and/or jailed.
As for necessary permanent installations--military bases, etc.--these should be distributed equitably as much as possible throughout the 50 states using per capita criteria to determine equitability.
Giving away the people's money is giving it to a particular person, group, entity, class, or whatever who did nothing to earn it and with no expectation or requirement that they do anything to earn it.
There is absolutely nothing vague or generalizxed about that concept for anybody of normal intelligence and education.
And again? Where in the Constitution was it ever written that Government was to take on the role of charity?And I will add...
Was/IS it government's responsibility to take over the charity role private citizens are quite capable of handling on thier own?
Sorry. You're going to lose me if you expect me to count on the good will of others.
And I would challenge anybody anywhere to show how the Federal goernment has ever done ANYTHING at less cost than what can be done by the states or in the private sector.
And I would challenge anybody anywhere to show how the Federal goernment has ever done ANYTHING at less cost than what can be done by the states or in the private sector.
How MANY times do I have to destroy this dogmatic driven MYTH? It has been dis-proven on numerous threads, yet you still chant the same crap, over and over and over...
Please explain why you refuse to accept facts Foxfyre?
America has the most 'private sector' health care in the world. AND the most expensive per capita than ANY nation on earth. And the most expensive 'private sector' health care in the world does not even provide the best outcomes for American citizens.
And again? Where in the Constitution was it ever written that Government was to take on the role of charity?And I will add...
Was/IS it government's responsibility to take over the charity role private citizens are quite capable of handling on thier own?
Sorry. You're going to lose me if you expect me to count on the good will of others.
But isn't cronyism really the way all government works regardless of the type?
And if so, then isn't it more a matter of policing the corruption properly as opposed to end political favor trading?
But do you put the foxes in charge of guarding the hen house from the foxes? Who is there to police the corruption? Most of the media has not done its job in a long long time now, and the few media sources that do are quickly demonized and marginalized as much as possible.
Easily 50% or more of Americans are now dependent on and/or addicted to some form of government freebies. Many of these are willing for others to lose their freebies, but don't want to lose those they themselves are getting. So they vote to keep the gravy train alive.
And yes, cronyism is a fact of and has existed in all of society for all of history, inside and outside of government. But when localized it is more easily managed. At the federal level, it gets swallowed up in the magnitude of an ever growing, expanding, and power hungry government. I doubt there is a human alive who fully understands how large, pervasive, and corrupt it has all become.
But make it illegal for anybody in the federal government to give away the people's money or resources to anybody, and that would correct a huge chunk of it. Instead of buying votes, they would be forced to return to the concept of earning votes via responsible, efficient, effective government again.
How is "giving away the people money" defined?
Obviously there HAS to be government contractors to service the military, build roads and bridges, etc. so what you're saying is too vague and generalized to be an effective strategy.
But do you put the foxes in charge of guarding the hen house from the foxes? Who is there to police the corruption? Most of the media has not done its job in a long long time now, and the few media sources that do are quickly demonized and marginalized as much as possible.
Easily 50% or more of Americans are now dependent on and/or addicted to some form of government freebies. Many of these are willing for others to lose their freebies, but don't want to lose those they themselves are getting. So they vote to keep the gravy train alive.
And yes, cronyism is a fact of and has existed in all of society for all of history, inside and outside of government. But when localized it is more easily managed. At the federal level, it gets swallowed up in the magnitude of an ever growing, expanding, and power hungry government. I doubt there is a human alive who fully understands how large, pervasive, and corrupt it has all become.
But make it illegal for anybody in the federal government to give away the people's money or resources to anybody, and that would correct a huge chunk of it. Instead of buying votes, they would be forced to return to the concept of earning votes via responsible, efficient, effective government again.
How is "giving away the people money" defined?
Obviously there HAS to be government contractors to service the military, build roads and bridges, etc. so what you're saying is too vague and generalized to be an effective strategy.
I think some are speaking of the Safety Net...you know welfare...giving people money for squirting out babies with NO responsibilty demanded for receiving the funds.
Is it right for able-bodied people who can work to be on the dole for prolonged periods and take up residence in the net while making it a hammock perpetually?
And General Welfare doesn't mean what it has become.And again? Where in the Constitution was it ever written that Government was to take on the role of charity?Sorry. You're going to lose me if you expect me to count on the good will of others.
The first clause of Article I, Section 8, reads, "The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States."
Now Hamilton and Madison argued over what "general welfare " meant. And the debate wasn't really settled until 1936 with the case United States vs Butler which established that determination of the general welfare would be left to the discretion of Congress.
So, the Constitution gives the Congress the power to determine what "General Welfare" means and to spend money promoting it.
Now you tell me where the Constitution supports your assertion that the Government should be involved with "charity"
And I would challenge anybody anywhere to show how the Federal goernment has ever done ANYTHING at less cost than what can be done by the states or in the private sector.
