What makes Israel so special?

[Kruska]

That map delights me. It shows that the Jews are gradually pushing the Palestinians out.

Just shows your one-sided mindset towards this topic - which is obvious anyway. It's exactly that kind of mentality that caused all this shit in the first place, and certainly won't help to solve it, but will continue to fuel the spiral of violence.

 

[Kruska]

The Italian embassy published a photo on its social network X page in which they illuminated the Arch of Titus in Rome with the flag of Israel and the Jewish Star of David. By doing so, the Italian authorities wanted to show "support for Israel against Hamas and Palestinian militants."

However, one has yet to find a less favorable historical location for such an action: the Arch of Titus was erected by his brother, Emperor Domitian, to commemorate Rome's victory over the rebellious Jews and the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE. Many Jews regard those events as an act of genocide.

What else would you expect from politicians?

 

[Hector12]

Just shows your one-sided mindset towards this topic - which is obvious anyway. It's exactly that kind of mentality that caused all this shit in the first place, and certainly won't help to solve it, but will continue to fuel the spiral of violence.

The spiral of violence will end when the non Christian Palestinians are deported, like they should have been years ago.

 

[Kruska]

Who ever stated that the Palestinian-Arabs all rented?

The ones that weren't renters were squatters.

Show me a source - that would proof your absurd claim that the Palestinian-Arabs did not own the land they lived on for hundreds of years - otherwise just keep your unsubstantiated nonsense to yourself.

They "controlled" it upon the Israeli/Arab war in 1948/49

The Palestinian government didn't control Gaza? Weird.

Not weird at all - since the Palestinian-Arabs had no government in 1948/9 - moron.

They "controlled" it upon the Israeli/Arab war in 1948/49

The Palestinian government didn't control East Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria?? Weird.

Not weird at all - since the Palestinian-Arabs had no government in 1948/9 - moron.

It was officially termed - British Mandate for PALESTINE

Right. But there was no nation of Palestine.

Neither was their a nation of Israel - moron.

Post #111 shows the Partition plan of Palestine in 1947 = Green Palestinian-Arab Land / White Jewish land.

The plan the Arabs rejected?

Yes - who else besides the Arab League? the Palestinian-Arabs did not have a government - neither did the Jews have one. - moron

And that Partition Plan was opposed by the Arab league - since at the time around 80% of the population were Palestinian-Arabs who would have only received 50% of British Palestine.

Jordan is much more than 50%.

Jordan didn't belong to British Palestine after 1946 - moron

And if they'd accepted the partition plan, they'd have gotten more than 50% of the rest.

It isn't about what the Arab League wanted - but that the Palestinian-Arabs were never involved in any negotiations. Which is in clear breach with the UN convention - moron.

It seems they have much, much less now than what they were offered. Idiots.

Because the Zionists didn't give a shit about was was "offered" to them, or to the Palestinian-Arabs. The Zionists simply declared independence and started to drive out the Palestinian-Arabs until today, wanting to claim the entire Palestine for themselves - moron

You are strikingly ignorant and got absolutely no background knowledge in regards to this topic - go and read up the history on your own, instead of constantly posting childlike garbage. I got no time for you - bye, bye. moron

 

[leftwinger]

Why does OP want useful productive smart Jewish people destroyed by arab non-productive savages?

 

[leftwinger]

It seems to me that the Israelis and Palestinians are competing over who is more of an animal.

False. Israel is once again forced to respond.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Show me a source - that would proof your absurd claim that the Palestinian-Arabs did not own the land they lived on for hundreds of years - otherwise just keep your unsubstantiated nonsense to yourself.

Not weird at all - since the Palestinian-Arabs had no government in 1948/9 - moron.

Not weird at all - since the Palestinian-Arabs had no government in 1948/9 - moron.

Neither was their a nation of Israel - moron.

Yes - who else besides the Arab League? the Palestinian-Arabs did not have a government - neither did the Jews have one. - moron

Jordan didn't belong to British Palestine after 1946 - moron

It isn't about what the Arab League wanted - but that the Palestinian-Arabs were never involved in any negotiations. Which is in clear breach with the UN convention - moron.

Because the Zionists didn't give a shit about was was "offered" to them, or to the Palestinian-Arabs. The Zionists simply declared independence and started to drive out the Palestinian-Arabs until today, wanting to claim the entire Palestine for themselves - moron

You are strikingly ignorant and got absolutely no background knowledge in regards to this topic - go and read up the history on your own, instead of constantly posting childlike garbage. I got no time for you - bye, bye. moron

Show me a source - that would proof your absurd claim that the Palestinian-Arabs did not own the land they lived on for hundreds of years - otherwise just keep your unsubstantiated nonsense to yourself.

If you have any statistics that show the Palestinians owned, or paid taxes on, huge chunks of land......don't let me stop you from posting it.

Not weird at all - since the Palestinian-Arabs had no government in 1948/9 - moron.

So how were they supposed to govern the land in the 1947 partition plan?
No government, no land, no nation.

Neither was their a nation of Israel

There was, in 1948. Still no Palestine, is there?

It isn't about what the Arab League wanted - but that the Palestinian-Arabs were never involved in any negotiations.

Because they pouted and stomped their feet and acted like little babies.

Now run away you whiney little bitch.

 

[Kruska]

The spiral of violence will end when the non Christian Palestinians are deported, like they should have been years ago.

It's about the people who have been living there for the past 1900 years. (since the Romans put an end to Israel). the ones who try to give it a religious twist are only radical Zionists, radical Arabs and religious Christian radicals like you.

Thanks to the Zionists and their "nationalist" actions, the Muslims started to form radical groups. There was absolutely no religious issue between Jews and Muslims in Palestine, before the Balfour Deceleration of 1917, aside from the known Ottoman Millet system.

Show me a source that would state otherwise.


You should read up the following:

The middle of the 1880’s saw the growth of anti-Semitism throughout Western and Eastern Europe, so much so that leaders of the Jewish community abandoned the idea of assimilation as an answer to what was known as the Jewish question. “They came to belief that Jews were not only a religious group, but also a separate nation.” This belief was a huge part of the foundation of modern Zionism, the idea that Jews should once again have their own sovereign nation and join their Jewish brethren still living in their ancestral homeland in the Palestine province of the Ottoman Empire. (Oke 329-330)

Theodor Herzl, an Austro-Hungarian journalist, became one of the primary leaders of the Jewish Zionists. Realizing that due to Ottoman sovereignty, the “decision is in the sole hands of His Majesty the Sultan,” in 1896, Herzl went to Istanbul to meet with Abdulhamid II. Knowing that the Empire was riddled with debt, Herzl made an offer of 20 million pounds in exchange for the allowance to have the Jews living in Europe join the Jews living in Palestine, but the Sultan responded with an adamant rejection. (Oke 330)

Herzl did not accept no for an answer, and proceeded to have a second meeting with Abdulhamid, stating that in exchange for the allowance of settlement, the Jews would buy the Ottoman debt from the Europeans, and place it back in Turkish hands. This proposition was much more favorable for Abdulhamid, and he agreed, although the deal fell through during the negotiations, in part due to fear of nationalist movements. (Oke 330)

The Ottoman refusal was primarily rooted in the “pressure of separatist movements in the Balkans and East Anatolia, [and] the Turkish Government feared the possibility of nurturing another nationality problem within its domains.” In truth, the empire was dealing with significant trouble stemming from nationalists from the Balkans, from the Armenians. (Oke 331)

Further fears arose for the Ottomans, when Herzl began meeting with the British, and negotiating over Jewish settlement in the Sinai, which was interpreted as proof of Jewish expansionist designs. (Oke 331) From then on, Abdulhamid was self-described as “the enemy of those Jews who entertained certain ideas over Palestine,” though he was still intent on protecting those Jewish subjects serving and subjected to the Ottoman Empire.

In addition, Abdulhamid was “haunted by the fear of opening another door for European influence, and stressed to Herzl that any Jewish immigrants that were allowed into Palestine, must become Ottoman subjects and placed under the Millet system.” Though Herzl supposedly gave these instructions, most did not look for citizenship. (as such the majority of those Jewish migrants that started to come in between 1896 -1917 did not own property). This enhanced the perception that “the Zionists were another advance guard of further political European influence.” (Oke 333)

Turkey, realizing to clamp down on Jewish immigration would reflect poorly on them in world opinion, decided it would benefit to have one of the great powers on its side. Naturally, it turned first to its closest European ally: Germany. The problem was that the German leader, Kaiser Wilhelm II, had been largely a supporter of Jews leaving Europe.

However, the Sultan was able to convince Wilhelm that Zionism was a threat to “the integrity of the Ottoman Empire (and that) the Germans should renounce the idea…because this project, by creating a state at the center of the Ottoman empire, would assure the ruin of Turkey.” This reasoning managed to convince the Germans to pull their support; subsequently, like dominos, the Russians and the French also rescinded whatever support they had given. (Oke 334)

As such is absolutely evident - that the Zionists latest since 1896 had been planing to claim/possess/occupy, other peoples land. And they have factually been doing it non-stop since 1948. - for almost 80 years.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

that the Zionists latest since 1896 had been planing to claim/possess/occupy, other peoples land.

Planning to buy land in and move back to Israel.

 

[Kruska]

..... by arab non-productive savages?

Maybe you can arrange an appointment with, Muḥammad ibn Salmān and Crown Prince Sheikh Nawaf Al-Ahmed - the USA most favored Muslim allies in the Middle-East - and tell them that.
American hypocrites - only matched by Zionists.

 

[Hector12]

As such is absolutely evident - that the Zionists latest since 1896 had been planing to claim/possess/occupy, other peoples land. And they have factually been doing it non-stop since 1948. - for almost 80 years.

Good for the Zionists.

There must be a Jewish land for a Jewish people.

It probably sounds better in German, but I have not studied German for years.

 

[Kruska]

There must be a Jewish land for a Jewish people.

I fully agree - but NOT on behalf of other peoples land, who have been living there for over 2000 years - and certainly not without consultation and consent from those people who live there - it's a major element of the UN charter.

 

[watchingfromafar]

Israel is not stolen. Israel is on land paid for and conquered from Arabs who wanted to kill all the Jews there.

Israel was a person, not a country.

And “Israel”, the land given to them by the UN was done so in order to give the

The true story not told in the western press

Hagana, Irgun and Stern gangs who threw bombs into buses, assassinated British and other officials and murdered Palestinians way before the Palestinians retaliated in kind. Zionist terrorists a place

https://rense.com//general21/pastzionist.htm

FIRST ACTS OF TERRORISM, COINING THE PHRASE

November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.

July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem,.,.,killing or injuring more than 200 persons.

October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.

September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)

December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.

December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.

December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa ; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.

January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons.

January 7, 1948. Seventeen Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them while trying to escape. Further casualties, including the murder of a British officer near Hebron, were reported from different parts of the country.

January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.

February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.

March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured.

March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.

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[watchingfromafar]

Terrorist acts continue---------

March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.

April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.

April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.

May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.

May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.

If this doesn’t sicken you then you are part of the problem.
NOTE: SOME OF THE FATHERS STRAPED BOMBS TO THEMSELVE IN ORDER TO GET REVENGE

But don’t just reject or accept what I have posted.

Google “Israel shooting children”
Google “Israel illegal settlements”
Google “Israel destroying Palestinian fish boats

BTW: some of the fathers of the murdered children strapped bombs to themselves in order to get the revenge
Once done, come back and try to defend what you saw/read------
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[Lakhota]

Right-Wing Media Is Flooded With Dehumanizing Rhetoric Against Palestinians​

Sad...

 

[Hector12]

Terrorist acts continue---------

March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.

April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.

April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.

May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.

May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.

If this doesn’t sicken you then you are part of the problem.
NOTE: SOME OF THE FATHERS STRAPED BOMBS TO THEMSELVE IN ORDER TO GET REVENGE

But don’t just reject or accept what I have posted.

Google “Israel shooting children”
Google “Israel illegal settlements”
Google “Israel destroying Palestinian fish boats

BTW: some of the fathers of the murdered children strapped bombs to themselves in order to get the revenge
Once done, come back and try to defend what you saw/read------
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My support for Israel is unconditional. The only thing I care about when evaluating Israeli behavior is this question: will is enhance the security and well being of the Israelis?

The only Palestinians I care about are the Christian Palestinians. There are few of those.

 

[Lakhota]

Why are Jews so special and Palestinians so disposable? CNN has become the 24/7 Israel channel.

 

[Lakhota]

Is this the opportunity that Nutanyahoo and his hardline government have been waiting for to exterminate the Palestinians?

Will this be the Palestinian holocaust?

 

[Hector12]

Why are Jews so special and Palestinians so disposable? CNN has become the 24/7 Israel channel.

Israel is special because according to the Bible and the Koran God gave the Land of Israel to the Children of Israel.

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Surah V:20 And (remember) when Moses said unto his people: O my people! Remember Allah’s favoour unto you, how he placed among you Prophets, and He made you kings, and gave you that (which) He gave not to any (other) creatures. O my people! Go into the holy land which Allah hath ordained for you. Turn not in flight, for surely ye turn back as losers.

Surah XVII:104 And we said unto the Children of Israel after him: Dwell in the land, but when the promise of the Hereafter cometh to pass, we shall bring you as a crowd gathered out of various nations.

This is what the Bible has to say about the right of the Jews to the land of Israel:

Genesis 12:6-7 And Abram passed through the land unto the place of Sichem, unto the plain of Moreh. And the Canaanite was then in the land.And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.

Genesis 13:14-15 And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward:For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.

Genesis 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

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Finally Israel is special because it is a beacon of first world civilization in an area where oil is the only source of wealth, and those without oil under their sand are poor.

The Arab world never recovered from the Mongol conquests of the thirteenth century. The Jews have recovered from tragedy after tragedy, and are today the most accomplished group of people in the world.

 

[surada]

Why dont you go over to Gaza and tell them that you believe in their cause.


Why Do Muslims Execute Innocent People?: Islamist Ideology

They want to kill you, you stupid twit. They hate you because you are the "Big Satan", they want to blow you up along with your family.

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We cannot and will not say today’s actions by Palestinian militants are unprovoked,” the group said in a statement on Saturday. “Every day under Israel’s system of apartheid is a provocation. The strangling siege on Gaza is a provocation. Settlers terrorizing entire Palestinian villages, soldiers raiding and demolishing Palestinian homes, murdering Palestinians in the streets, Israeli ministers calling for genocide and expulsion.”