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Ahhh.
One thing you forget. Government is a business. It collects revenue like a business. It runs itself like a business, so for us, the parallels are too striking to distinguish the two from one another. One is just as predatory as the other. One is just as corrupt as the other.
What pisses me off about modern liberalism is their desire to meld the two.
I especially agree with the moralizing habit conservatives engage in all of the time. You would be hard-pressed to find a self-described conservative who does not feel that conservatism has exclusive ownership of the moral high-ground.
If I didn't consider my political beliefs to be the moral high ground, I would alter my political beliefs. Not a hard concept to comprehend.
Perhaps you can enlighten us as to where conservatism has lost the moral high ground.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/u...le-class-is-no-longer-the-worlds-richest.html
The American middle class, long the most affluent in the world, has lost that distinction.
While the wealthiest Americans are outpacing many of their global peers, a New York Times analysis shows that across the lower- and middle-income tiers, citizens of other advanced countries have received considerably larger raises over the last three decades.
After-tax middle-class incomes in Canada substantially behind in 2000 now appear to be higher than in the United States. The poor in much of Europe earn more than poor Americans.
The numbers, based on surveys conducted over the past 35 years, offer some of the most detailed publicly available comparisons for different income groups in different countries over time. They suggest that most American families are paying a steep price for high and rising income inequality.
Although economic growth in the United States continues to be as strong as in many other countries, or stronger, a small percentage of American households is fully benefiting from it. Median income in Canada pulled into a tie with median United States income in 2010 and has most likely surpassed it since then. Median incomes in Western European countries still trail those in the United States, but the gap in several including Britain, the Netherlands and Sweden is much smaller than it was a decade ago.
I especially agree with the moralizing habit conservatives engage in all of the time. You would be hard-pressed to find a self-described conservative who does not feel that conservatism has exclusive ownership of the moral high-ground.
If I didn't consider my political beliefs to be the moral high ground, I would alter my political beliefs. Not a hard concept to comprehend.
Perhaps you can enlighten us as to where conservatism has lost the moral high ground.
I especially agree with the moralizing habit conservatives engage in all of the time. You would be hard-pressed to find a self-described conservative who does not feel that conservatism has exclusive ownership of the moral high-ground.
If I didn't consider my political beliefs to be the moral high ground, I would alter my political beliefs. Not a hard concept to comprehend.
Perhaps you can enlighten us as to where conservatism has lost the moral high ground.
Start with the fact they steal from the poor to give to the rich.
Not making a liberal post, but I'm here to say why I dislike modern conservatism.
I consider myself fiscally conservative, but socially liberal. Sorta what the republicans were long ago.
My main pet peeve with modern conservatism is that they almost always mix up "big government" with "big business".
[SNIP]
Thats why I hate modern conservatism and would RATHER have pre-cold war conservatism instead. They had their shit in order.
I especially agree with the moralizing habit conservatives engage in all of the time. You would be hard-pressed to find a self-described conservative who does not feel that conservatism has exclusive ownership of the moral high-ground.
If I didn't consider my political beliefs to be the moral high ground, I would alter my political beliefs. Not a hard concept to comprehend.
Perhaps you can enlighten us as to where conservatism has lost the moral high ground.
Ahhh.
One thing you forget. Government is a business. It collects revenue like a business. It runs itself like a business, so for us, the parallels are too striking to distinguish the two from one another. One is just as predatory as the other. One is just as corrupt as the other.
What pisses me off about modern liberalism is their desire to meld the two.
Uhhh.... say what?
How soon we forget... this is not unlike the sputtering retort to the point that candidate Romney would be one of the least experienced Presidents ever with, "b-but, but.. he's a businessman!". What was that, if not melding the two?
Oligarchy is not in any way party-specific. That's why I put that Eisenhower quote up there. It's not this party or that party ---- it's systemic.
Ahhh.
One thing you forget. Government is a business. It collects revenue like a business. It runs itself like a business, so for us, the parallels are too striking to distinguish the two from one another. One is just as predatory as the other. One is just as corrupt as the other.
What pisses me off about modern liberalism is their desire to meld the two.
Excellent thoughts. And yeah, I'd say that's basically Liberalism. Nuttin' wrong with that, those founder names listed above are the voices of Liberalism that founded this country.
Two relevant quotes from notable Republicans, uttered by chance 100 years apart, come to mind:
"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes." -- Dwight Eisenhower, 1961
(Ike originally wrote the phrase as "military-industrial-congressional complex")
and
"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration." -- Abraham Lincoln, 1861
We miss these kinds of Republicans.
I especially agree with the moralizing habit conservatives engage in all of the time. You would be hard-pressed to find a self-described conservative who does not feel that conservatism has exclusive ownership of the moral high-ground.
If I didn't consider my political beliefs to be the moral high ground, I would alter my political beliefs. Not a hard concept to comprehend.
Perhaps you can enlighten us as to where conservatism has lost the moral high ground.
Conservatism never had it to lose. Holier-than-thou attitudes and stubborn clinging to the past is not necessarily the best way to deal with social problems. Conservatives ban things, outlaw consensual activities, censor naughty words and a bunch of other shit that seeks to steal the joy from life. Conservatives stomp on fun for fun I guess.
Ahhh.
One thing you forget. Government is a business. It collects revenue like a business. It runs itself like a business, so for us, the parallels are too striking to distinguish the two from one another. One is just as predatory as the other. One is just as corrupt as the other.
What pisses me off about modern liberalism is their desire to meld the two.
Uhhh.... say what?
How soon we forget... this is not unlike the sputtering retort to the point that candidate Romney would be one of the least experienced Presidents ever with, "b-but, but.. he's a businessman!". What was that, if not melding the two?
Oligarchy is not in any way party-specific. That's why I put that Eisenhower quote up there. It's not this party or that party ---- it's systemic.
You voted for obama, clearly the least experienced president in modern history. Never had a real job, never had to make a payroll, never had to file schedule C tax form, never had any profit and loss responsibility, never dealt with any international leaders---unless you consider his indonesian coke dealer.
I get it that you hate Romney and everyone with an R behind their name, but Romney would have been a very good president 10,000 times better than obama.
I especially agree with the moralizing habit conservatives engage in all of the time. You would be hard-pressed to find a self-described conservative who does not feel that conservatism has exclusive ownership of the moral high-ground.
If I didn't consider my political beliefs to be the moral high ground, I would alter my political beliefs. Not a hard concept to comprehend.
Perhaps you can enlighten us as to where conservatism has lost the moral high ground.
Start with the fact they steal from the poor to give to the rich.
Not making a liberal post, but I'm here to say why I dislike modern conservatism.
I consider myself fiscally conservative, but socially liberal. Sorta what the republicans were long ago.
My main pet peeve with modern conservatism is that they almost always mix up "big government" with "big business".
[SNIP]
Thats why I hate modern conservatism and would RATHER have pre-cold war conservatism instead. They had their shit in order.
Seeing as I didn't read every word of your post I know i missed something.
Please point out, if you'd be so kind, the part that connects all of the ills you've pointed out, to Conservatives.
I especially agree with the moralizing habit conservatives engage in all of the time. You would be hard-pressed to find a self-described conservative who does not feel that conservatism has exclusive ownership of the moral high-ground.
If I didn't consider my political beliefs to be the moral high ground, I would alter my political beliefs. Not a hard concept to comprehend.
Perhaps you can enlighten us as to where conservatism has lost the moral high ground.
Conservatism never had it to lose. Holier-than-thou attitudes and stubborn clinging to the past is not necessarily the best way to deal with social problems. Conservatives ban things, outlaw consensual activities, censor naughty words and a bunch of other shit that seeks to steal the joy from life. Conservatives stomp on fun for fun I guess.
I especially agree with the moralizing habit conservatives engage in all of the time. You would be hard-pressed to find a self-described conservative who does not feel that conservatism has exclusive ownership of the moral high-ground.
If I didn't consider my political beliefs to be the moral high ground, I would alter my political beliefs. Not a hard concept to comprehend.
Perhaps you can enlighten us as to where conservatism has lost the moral high ground.
Start with the fact they steal from the poor to give to the rich.
YOU loathe the Founding of this Republic...and hate the Founders even more...WE get it...I especially agree with the moralizing habit conservatives engage in all of the time. You would be hard-pressed to find a self-described conservative who does not feel that conservatism has exclusive ownership of the moral high-ground.
If I didn't consider my political beliefs to be the moral high ground, I would alter my political beliefs. Not a hard concept to comprehend.
Perhaps you can enlighten us as to where conservatism has lost the moral high ground.
Conservatism never had it to lose. Holier-than-thou attitudes and stubborn clinging to the past is not necessarily the best way to deal with social problems. Conservatives ban things, outlaw consensual activities, censor naughty words and a bunch of other shit that seeks to steal the joy from life. Conservatives stomp on fun for fun I guess.
